Questions about Adoption and Denial of Children

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Dear Samir,

 

Chara karaka replacement occurs at the maturational age of the planet being

replaced, (i.e. the planet with the higher degree). For example: Replacement

of PK Moon by GK Saturn occurs at the maturational age of the Moon. In this

chart, the native's younger sister, who was like a child to her, died when the

native was in her early 20s. At age 26, her first child was born.

 

The loss of the mother occurred at the maturational age of Saturn, age 36.

Problems related to Rahu/Saturn conjunction with the Moon were strong during

this time period, and resulted in sorrow and grief related to loss of mother.

(Saturn-Moon conjoined in both Rasi and Navamsa.) Venus-Moon dasa (1994-96) was

difficult but Venus-Rahu dasa was much worse (1997-2000). The full break

with her mother occurred during this period.

 

<<Varga Chakra page 227, half way down the page, Vistiji shows the change in

gati caused by the nodes.>>

 

Thank you for this reference. According to the illustration in Chart 87,

when the Ra/Ke axis is crossed, the house occupied by the node is taken as the

next house of pregnancy, rather than progressing to the 3rd house from the

previous house of pregnancy. (i.e., 8th house/Rahu is next house of pregnancy

after the 7th house, rather than jumping to the 9th house.) Do you know if this

is the rule in all cases? Some of the examples in COVA do not do this, but

jump 3 houses to the next house of pregnancy per manduka gati. In other words,

the gati just continues past the Ra/Ke axis. In what situations is the count

altered and the house occupied by the node taken as the next house of pregnancy?

 

Best Regards,

 

Susan

 

 

OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Räma

Krsna ||

Dear Susan,

Namaskar

Thanks. I was in the dark until now about which planet times the

chara karaka replacement. Though it seems that the natural ages of

both planets bear significant results.

Regarding the break in Manduka gati - it depends on the strength of

Jupiter. If Jupiter is strong in the D-7 (and Rasi as well

presumably), then we ignore the nodes and keep counting. However if

Jupiter is weak, then the count must stop at the nodes. That said,

Vistiji's example in Varga Chakra is the only one I have come across

which uses this method!

I think it is useful to try and work out the maximum number of children

using other methods, and then merge everything to come to a

conclusion. Intuition is the key, one which takes some cutting

.

Best wishes,

Samir

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Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:15:55 EDT

abalonemoon (AT) aol (DOT) com

Re: Re: Questions about Adoption and Denial of Children

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Samir,

Chara karaka replacement occurs at the maturational age of the planet

being

replaced, (i.e. the planet with the higher degree). For example:

Replacement

of PK Moon by GK Saturn occurs at the maturational age of the Moon.

In this

chart, the native's younger sister, who was like a child to her, died

when the

native was in her early 20s. At age 26, her first child was

born.

The loss of the mother occurred at the maturational age of Saturn, age

36.

Problems related to Rahu/Saturn conjunction with the Moon were strong

during

this time period, and resulted in sorrow and grief related to loss of

mother.

(Saturn-Moon conjoined in both Rasi and Navamsa.) Venus-Moon dasa

(1994-96) was

difficult but Venus-Rahu dasa was much worse (1997-2000). The full

break

with her mother occurred during this period.

 

<<Varga Chakra page 227, half way down the page, Vistiji shows the

change in

gati caused by the nodes.>>

Thank you for this reference. According to the illustration in

Chart 87,

when the Ra/Ke axis is crossed, the house occupied by the node is taken

as the

next house of pregnancy, rather than progressing to the 3rd house from

the

previous house of pregnancy. (i.e., 8th house/Rahu is next house of

pregnancy

after the 7th house, rather than jumping to the 9th house.) Do you

know if this

is the rule in all cases? Some of the examples in COVA do not do

this, but

jump 3 houses to the next house of pregnancy per manduka gati. In

other words,

the gati just continues past the Ra/Ke axis. In what situations is

the count

altered and the house occupied by the node taken as the next house of

pregnancy?

 

Best Regards,

Susan

OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA

[Guest guest]

Dear Samir,

 

Sorry for my slow reply to your post.

 

<<Thanks. I was in the dark until now about which planet times the chara

karaka replacement. Though it seems that the natural ages of both planets bear

significant results.>>

 

I think the explanation of Chara Karaka replacement is in the "Atmakaraka"

lecture from the 2003 US West Coast conference.

 

<>

 

I agree completely. Intuition is the key. Merging methods seems to give the

best results. Also, I have changed my approach somewhat. If the chart

indicates strongly that the pregnancy may have been lost, I assume that it was.

I

have experimented with this, adhering strictly to the rules, and have found

that my accuracy rate has increased considerably.

 

Do you know where the reference is that discusses the Six Seasons of the Day?

I think it is in VRA but I can't seem to find it. Which planets (and

seasons) correspond to which time periods during a 24 hr day? Thanks! :-)

 

Best Wishes,

 

Susan

 

 

OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Susan, Namaskar

No problem - we all have our duties to attend to .

I haven't heard of the six seasons in a day that you mention. The

only major divisions of the day that I am aware of are the aho/ratri,

hora, kaala and yama divisions. If you do find the source, please

do post it here! I don't think it's in VRA, but I may have missed

it.

Best wishes,

Samir

abalonemoon

Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:25 am

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Questions about Adoption and

Denial of Children

Dear Samir,

Sorry for my slow reply to your post.

<<Thanks. I was in the dark until now about which planet times the

chara

karaka replacement. Though it seems that the natural ages of both planets

bear

significant results.>>

I think the explanation of Chara Karaka replacement is in the

"Atmakaraka"

lecture from the 2003 US West Coast conference.

<>

I agree completely. Intuition is the key. Merging methods seems to give

the

best results. Also, I have changed my approach somewhat. If the

chart

indicates strongly that the pregnancy may have been lost, I assume that

it was.

I

have experimented with this, adhering strictly to the rules, and have

found

that my accuracy rate has increased considerably.

Do you know where the reference is that discusses the Six Seasons of the

Day?

I think it is in VRA but I can't seem to find it. Which planets (and

seasons) correspond to which time periods during a 24 hr day? Thanks!

:-)

Best Wishes,

Susan

OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA

[Guest guest]

Dear Susan and Samir,

 

>I haven't heard of the six seasons in a day that you mention. The only

>major divisions of the day that I am aware of are the aho/ratri, hora,

>kaala and yama divisions. If you do find the source, please do post it

>here! I don't think it's in VRA, but I may have missed it.

 

Hora divisions can be found in Lesson 6 in the files section of

Varahamihira. As for the seasons in the year,

vasanta- Venus

grishma - Sun &Mars

varsha - Moon

sharad - Mercury

hemanta - Jupiter

sishira- Saturn

 

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

 

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