Vistiji's parivartana yoga lesson Repost

June 1, 2005

|Om Gurave Namah|

Dear Visti ji,

I am reposting my query as I have not heard from you. I read through Vistiji's

parivartana yoga article and tried to implement the principles to my chart.

Please guide me.

Sun aspects the Lagna from the 7th house. So Sun is the focus of the change.

The change is happening from Mercury to Sun. From Rajas Guna to Sattwa Guna,

from prithvi tattwa to agni tattwa. The change involves 6th and 7th house

lord, so it denotes transformation in relationships. Since the 6th house is

involved a lot of energy will go into transforming the relationship.

In Navamsa there is an exchange between Sa and Ju. Ju is debilitated while Sa

is in Sagittarius. One is a malefic and one is a benefic. As Saturn(AK) rises

with sattwa guna, Jupiter(GK) becomes more and more tamasic.

In Rasi there is a Karaka exchange between 8th house (Sa) and 2nd house (Ju).

Here karaka for 8th house is very uncomfortable while karaka for 2nd house

prospers.

My relatives through marriage harbor bad feelings for me because of this

exchange. DK in prittvi tattwa and satwa guna will help neutralize this. AK

is with debilitated Rh (AmK) in A9. So mantra and puja will lead me to sattwa

guna with agni tattwa.

This exchange makes Sa a benefic in its dasa and Ju a malefic. During my Mo-Ju

Dasa I had a miscarriage. My daughter was born during my Mo-Sa dasa.

Sincerely,

Supriti

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June 2, 2005

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Dear Supriti,

Namaskar

When the

parivartana doesn’t join the lagna, lagnesh or arudha lagna, then the

focus is not clear as far as the native is concerned. Comments below.

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01 June 2005 23:36

[Om Krishna Guru]

Vistiji's parivartana yoga lesson Repost

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|Om

Gurave Namah|

Dear

Visti ji,

I am

reposting my query as I have not heard from you. I read

through Vistiji's parivartana yoga article and tried to implement the

principles to my chart. Please guide me.

12.0pt">Sun aspects the Lagna from the 7th house. So Sun is the focus of the

change. The change is happening from Mercury to Sun. From Rajas Guna to

Sattwa Guna, from prithvi tattwa to agni tattwa. The change involves 6th and

7th house lord, so it denotes transformation in relationships. Since the 6th

house is involved a lot of energy will go into transforming the relationship.

[Visti] I

was taught that a parivartana between a kendra and dusthäna lord causes a

change from a good situation into a bad, or vice versa. I.e. during the antara

dasa of Mercury (7th lord) you will see a change in your marriage

leading to increased enmity. Similarly when Sun antara comes (6th lord)

that enmity will be resolved, or a bad situation transforms into a good one.

12.0pt">In Navamsa there is an exchange between Sa and Ju. Ju is debilitated

while Sa is in Sagittarius. One is a malefic and one is a benefic. As

Saturn(AK) rises with sattwa guna, Jupiter(GK) becomes more and more tamasic.

[Visti] This

is not how i used this principle in my article, please read again.

12.0pt">In Rasi there is a Karaka exchange between 8th house (Sa)

and 2nd house (Ju). Here karaka for 8th house is very

uncomfortable while karaka for 2nd house prospers.

[Visti] Right,

so what does this mean? The one who is responsible for ensuring your livelihood

(Jupiter) is now letting you borrow money from him. And the one who normally

lends you money (Saturn) has become your source of livelihood. This is like

your boss becoming your bank, and your bank helping you pay that money back.

12.0pt"> My relatives through marriage harbor bad feelings for me because of

this exchange. DK in prittvi tattwa and satwa guna will help neutralize this.

AK is with debilitated Rh (AmK) in A9. So mantra and puja will lead me to

sattwa guna with agni tattwa.

[Visti] I’ve

thought about it, and i don’t think mantra is enough. The planets in the

sixth require some offering or bali. Since they are joined your A10 they will block

your career and status (even your title). So with whichever mantra you do, you

MUST offer food.

Now all

these planets in leo could indicate “feeding lions” but this is too

much to ask. Leo also indicates dogs or large canines. If you have a dog, make

sure you make a point to feed it well. If not, then either get a puppy and feed

it, or start finding dogs to feed, or donate for dog welfare –

specifically for food. Do this and regularly worship Narasimha. Do you know the

Anushtup Narasimha mantra (ugraveeram mahavishnum...)? If you do then please

recite it. Did your family used to worship a Guru or Shiva moorty but have

stopped doing so? This must be taken up again as well.

12.0pt">This exchange makes Sa a benefic in its dasa and Ju a malefic. During

my Mo-Ju Dasa I had a miscarriage. My daughter was born during my Mo-Sa

dasa.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Sincerely,

12.0pt">Supriti

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June 2, 2005

|OM Gurave Namah|

Dear Vistiji,

Thank you for your response. Please guide me through further clarifications.

[supriti]Sun aspects the Lagna from the 7th house. So Sun is the focus of the

change. The change is happening from Mercury to Sun. From Rajas Guna to

Sattwa Guna, from prithvi tattwa to agni tattwa. The change involves 6th and

7th house lord, so it denotes transformation in relationships. Since the 6th

house is involved a lot of energy will go into transforming the relationship.

[Visti] I was taught that a parivartana between a kendra and dusthäna lord

causes a change from a good situation into a bad, or vice versa. I.e. during

the antara dasa of Mercury (7th lord) you will see a change in your marriage

leading to increased enmity. Similarly when Sun antara comes (6th lord) that

enmity will be resolved, or a bad situation transforms into a good one.

[supriti2] If a parivartana is not related to lagna, AL or Lagnesh there is no

focus of change and this can cause vacillation between good and bad for a bad

exchange.

Hence, the 6th and 7th lord exchange, even though it takes up a lot of energy

(6th house)- will not cause a permanent transformation in marriage. Can I

deduce that during Aq narayana dasa, I will have relationship problems as Aq is

7th from Me in Leo and during Pi Narayan dasa my marriage will be better as Pi

is 7th from Su in Virgo

[supriti]In Navamsa there is an exchange between Sa and Ju. Ju is debilitated

while Sa is in Sagittarius. One is a malefic and one is a benefic. As

Saturn(AK) rises with sattwa guna, Jupiter(GK) becomes more and more tamasic.

[Visti] This is not how i used this principle in my article, please read again.

[supriti2] Let me try again. In Navamsa there is an exchange between Sa and Ju.

Ju is debilitated while Sa is in Sagittarius. Sa is a malefic and Ju is a

benefic. The exchange is with a dustana so this is a bad exchange. Ju is the

lord of 8th house and 5th house. Sa the lord of the 6th and 7th house is in

5th house with A9 in it. This shows there will be enmity between me (Sa-AK)

and my relatives through my marriage (Ju-GK) and that my father(A9) will raise

the issue. This will cause marital stress.

yes"> Ju is lagnesh and Sa is 11th and 12th lord in Rasi, what does this imply?

[supriti]In Rasi there is a Karaka exchange between 8th house (Sa) and 2nd house

(Ju). Here karaka for 8th house is very uncomfortable while karaka for 2nd

house prospers.

[Visti] Right, so what does this mean? The one who is responsible for ensuring

your livelihood (Jupiter) is now letting you borrow money from him. And the one

who normally lends you money (Saturn) has become your source of livelihood. This

is like your boss becoming your bank, and your bank helping you pay that money

back.

[supriti2] I have understood this conceptually but what does Sa becoming source

of livelihood mean in the materialistic world. Since it is the karaka of 8th

house does it mean occult/jyotish will become a source of livelihood. Right

now I make a living in the technology industry. This is signified by Rh I

think and is with Sa in Navamsa.

[supriti]My relatives through marriage harbor bad feelings for me because of

this exchange. DK in prittvi tattwa and satwa guna will help neutralize this.

AK is with debilitated Rh (AmK) in A9. So mantra and puja will lead me to

sattwa guna with agni tattwa.

[Visti] I’ve thought about it, and i don’t think mantra is enough. The planets

in the sixth require some offering or bali. Since they are joined your A10 they

will block your career and status (even your title). So with whichever mantra

you do, you MUST offer food.

Now all these planets in leo could indicate “feeding lions” but this is too much

to ask. Leo also indicates dogs or large canines. If you have a dog, make sure

you make a point to feed it well. If not, then either get a puppy and feed it,

or start finding dogs to feed, or donate for dog welfare – specifically for

food. Do this and regularly worship Narasimha. Do you know the Anushtup

Narasimha mantra (ugraveeram mahavishnum...)? If you do then please recite it.

Did your family used to worship a Guru or Shiva moorty but have stopped doing

so? This must be taken up again as well.

[supriti2]I currently pray to durga/bagalamukhi – Ma being my ishta is with Mo.

My diksha guru gave me mantra for durga and guruji recommended I also pray to

her as bagalamukhi. I used to pray to Shiv for a very long time but have not

done so in a long time. My father’s family used to pray to Kali, durga. My

paternal grandfather used to do chandi paath everyday. They had a guru who

prayed to Shiv, durga, kali and was from Vaidyanath/Deoghar. My maternal

family prays to gaur hari – bal gopal. Their guru prays to Krishna. Lately I

feel like praying to Shiv ji with the jyotirlinga mantra – om namah shivay namo

kaaleshvaraya. Also if possible can you suggest another remedy than feeding

dogs. I have an unfounded fear of canines. Will offering food to the deities

constitute a remedy for this problem?

[supriti]This exchange makes Sa a benefic in its dasa and Ju a malefic. During

my Mo-Ju Dasa I had a miscarriage. My daughter was born during my Mo-Sa dasa.

Sincerely,

Supriti

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Dear Supriti,

Namaskar

Comments

below.

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02 June 2005 15:35

RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Vistiji's parivartana yoga lesson Repost

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font-family:Arial">|OM Gurave Namah|

font-family:Arial">Dear Vistiji,

font-family:Arial">Thank you for your response. Please guide me through

further clarifications.

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12.0pt">[supriti2] If a parivartana is

not related to lagna, AL or Lagnesh there is no focus of change and this can

cause vacillation between good and bad for a bad exchange.

Hence, the 6th and 7th

lord exchange, even though it takes up a lot of energy (6th house)- will not

cause a permanent transformation in marriage. Can I deduce that during Aq

narayana dasa, I will have relationship problems as Aq is 7th from Me in Leo

and during Pi Narayan dasa my marriage will be better as Pi is 7th from Su in

Virgo

[Visti] Vacillation

is not the right word. Change or transformation is more right and the situation

where the change occurs must be analyzed very carefully. Here the parivartana

being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation (marriage)

to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where a bitter situation

(enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship. Your inference about your Näräyaëa

daçä is very correct.

[supriti2]

Let me try again. In Navamsa there is an exchange between Sa and

Ju. Ju is debilitated while Sa is in Sagittarius. Sa is a malefic

and Ju is a benefic. The exchange is with a dustana so this is a bad

exchange. Ju is the lord of 8th house and 5th house. Sa

the lord of the 6th and 7th house is in 5th

house with A9 in it. This shows there will be enmity between me (Sa-AK) and my

relatives through my marriage (Ju-GK) and that my father(A9) will raise the

issue. This will cause marital stress. Ju is lagnesh and Sa is 11th

and 12th lord in Rasi, what does this imply?

font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] Always remember that

navamsa is all about relationships... Not just the intimate ones. So these two

guys; Saturn and Jupiter have decided to give each others results in matters of

people or relationships. Now look at your rasi chart and see the placement of

these two big-boys. Saturn is placed in your second house and joined your

labhapada (a11). Among people the labhapada indicates friends and Saturn causes

sorrow on account of them. This could be in matters of money or family that

this sorrow comes, as this Saturn is placed in the second house. These results

will be given in Jupiter dasa/antara and not Saturn.

font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] Jupiter is placed in the

eighth house with Venus, so two nice benefics there. They are joined putrapada

(a5) matripada (a4) and shatrupada (a6). Jupiter and Venus are well placed

here, and will ensure good news in relationships with children (a5) mother/family

(a4) and in matters of service/job (a6). These good results will be given by

Saturn and not Jupiter. I believe you gave birth to a child during Saturn

antara dasa.

[supriti2]

I have understood this conceptually but what does Sa becoming source of

livelihood mean in the materialistic world. Since it is the karaka of 8th

house does it mean occult/jyotish will become a source of livelihood. Right

now I make a living in the technology industry. This is signified by Rh I

think and is with Sa in Navamsa.

font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] Well, as long as we are not

looking at lordships, think in lines of people. It can also indicate occultists

and astrologers (eighth house) become a stronger part of your own family or

group/kula (second) whilst own family members take renunciation or become more

spiritual.

[Visti]

I’ve thought about it, and i don’t think mantra is enough. The

planets in the sixth require some offering or bali. Since they are joined your

A10 they will block your career and status (even your title). So with whichever

mantra you do, you MUST offer food.

Now

all these planets in leo could indicate “feeding lions” but this is

too much to ask. Leo also indicates dogs or large canines. If you have a dog,

make sure you make a point to feed it well. If not, then either get a puppy and

feed it, or start finding dogs to feed, or donate for dog welfare –

specifically for food. Do this and regularly worship Narasimha. Do you know the

Anushtup Narasimha mantra (ugraveeram mahavishnum...)? If you do then please

recite it. Did your family used to worship a Guru or Shiva moorty but have

stopped doing so? This must be taken up again as well.

[supriti2]I

currently pray to durga/bagalamukhi – Ma being my ishta is with Mo.

My diksha guru gave me mantra for durga and guruji recommended I also pray to

her as bagalamukhi. I used to pray to Shiv for a very long time but have not

done so in a long time. My father’s family used to pray to Kali, durga.

My paternal grandfather used to do chandi paath everyday. They had a guru who

prayed to Shiv, durga, kali and was from Vaidyanath/Deoghar. My maternal

family prays to gaur hari – bal gopal. Their guru prays to Krishna.

Lately I feel like praying to Shiv

ji with the jyotirlinga mantra – om namah shivay namo kaaleshvaraya.

Also if possible can you suggest another remedy than feeding dogs. I have an

unfounded fear of canines. Will offering food to the deities constitute a

remedy for this problem?

font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] If the Hari worship is

being continued, then its fine. Yes please do that mantra, for you it would

become an atmalinga mantra – this type of worship is not easy i’ve

been told.

font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">As for feeding dogs. Whilst you

need not do this personally, you can see to it that others ensure this happens,

i.e. through donation to dog-shelters every Sunday or during Suns Hora until

Suns antara dasa begins. Please look for this opportunity.

Sincerely,

Supriti

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Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

June 3, 2005

Jai Jinendra Visitiji,

Can you elaborate, can Parivartana takes place b/w

three planets.

In my DOB:16th March,1980,Place:Rajkot,Time:21:00hrs.

If you see a Navmasa,there is a privartana b/w

Vargottam Mercury,Saturn and Jupiter.

Is is a Parivartana and What will be it's effect in

one's life and when will it occur.Please I will be

grateful if you explain it technically in details

manner; with proper reasoning.

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> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Vistiji's parivartana

> yoga lesson Repost

>

> |OM Gurave Namah|

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Thank you for your response. Please guide me

> through further

> clarifications.

>

> [supriti2] If a parivartana is not related to lagna,

> AL or Lagnesh there is

> no focus of change and this can cause vacillation

> between good and bad for a

> bad exchange.

>

> Hence, the 6th and 7th lord exchange, even though it

> takes up a lot of

> energy (6th house)- will not cause a permanent

> transformation in marriage.

> Can I deduce that during Aq narayana dasa, I will

> have relationship problems

> as Aq is 7th from Me in Leo and during Pi Narayan

> dasa my marriage will be

> better as Pi is 7th from Su in Virgo

>

> [Visti] Vacillation is not the right word. Change or

> transformation is more

> right and the situation where the change occurs must

> be analyzed very

> carefully. Here the parivartana being between a good

> and an evil house must

> cause a good situation (marriage) to turn sour

> (enmity). Later this will

> reverse again where a bitter situation (enmity)

> becomes the cause of a great

> friendship. Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä

> is very correct.

>

> [supriti2] Let me try again. In Navamsa there is an

> exchange between Sa and

> Ju. Ju is debilitated while Sa is in Sagittarius.

> Sa is a malefic and Ju

> is a benefic. The exchange is with a dustana so this

> is a bad exchange. Ju

> is the lord of 8th house and 5th house. Sa the lord

> of the 6th and 7th

> house is in 5th house with A9 in it. This shows

> there will be enmity

> between me (Sa-AK) and my relatives through my

> marriage (Ju-GK) and that my

> father(A9) will raise the issue. This will cause

> marital stress. Ju is

> lagnesh and Sa is 11th and 12th lord in Rasi, what

> does this imply?

>

> [Visti] Always remember that navamsa is all about

> relationships... Not just

> the intimate ones. So these two guys; Saturn and

> Jupiter have decided to

> give each others results in matters of people or

> relationships. Now look at

> your rasi chart and see the placement of these two

> big-boys. Saturn is

> placed in your second house and joined your

> labhapada (a11). Among people

> the labhapada indicates friends and Saturn causes

> sorrow on account of them.

> This could be in matters of money or family that

> this sorrow comes, as this

> Saturn is placed in the second house. These results

> will be given in Jupiter

> dasa/antara and not Saturn.

>

> [Visti] Jupiter is placed in the eighth house with

> Venus, so two nice

> benefics there. They are joined putrapada (a5)

> matripada (a4) and shatrupada

> (a6). Jupiter and Venus are well placed here, and

> will ensure good news in

> relationships with children (a5) mother/family (a4)

> and in matters of

> service/job (a6). These good results will be given

> by Saturn and not

> Jupiter. I believe you gave birth to a child during

> Saturn antara dasa.

>

> [supriti2] I have understood this conceptually but

> what does Sa becoming

> source of livelihood mean in the materialistic

> world. Since it is the

> karaka of 8th house does it mean occult/jyotish will

> become a source of

> livelihood. Right now I make a living in the

> technology industry. This is

> signified by Rh I think and is with Sa in Navamsa.

>

> [Visti] Well, as long as we are not looking at

> lordships, think in lines of

> people. It can also indicate occultists and

> astrologers (eighth house)

> become a stronger part of your own family or

> group/kula (second) whilst own

> family members take renunciation or become more

> spiritual.

>

> [Visti] I’ve thought about it, and i don’t think

> mantra is enough. The

> planets in the sixth require some offering or bali.

> Since they are joined

> your A10 they will block your career and status

> (even your title). So with

> whichever mantra you do, you MUST offer food.

>

> Now all these planets in leo could indicate “feeding

> lions” but this is too

> much to ask. Leo also indicates dogs or large

> canines. If you have a dog,

> make sure you make a point to feed it well. If not,

> then either get a puppy

> and feed it, or start finding dogs to feed, or

> donate for dog welfare –

> specifically for food. Do this and regularly worship

> Narasimha. Do you know

> the Anushtup Narasimha mantra (ugraveeram

> mahavishnum...)? If you do then

> please recite it. Did your family used to worship a

> Guru or Shiva moorty but

> have stopped doing so? This must be taken up again

> as well.

>

> [supriti2]I currently pray to durga/bagalamukhi –

> Ma being my ishta is with

> Mo. My diksha guru gave me mantra for durga and

> guruji recommended I also

> pray to her as bagalamukhi. I used to pray to Shiv

> for a very long time but

> have not done so in a long time. My father’s family

> used to pray to Kali,

> durga. My paternal grandfather used to do chandi

> paath everyday. They had

> a guru who prayed to Shiv, durga, kali and was from

> Vaidyanath/Deoghar. My

> maternal family prays to gaur hari – bal gopal.

> Their guru prays to

> Krishna. Lately I feel like praying to Shiv ji with

> the jyotirlinga mantra

> – om namah shivay namo kaaleshvaraya. Also if

> possible can you suggest

> another remedy than feeding dogs. I have an

> unfounded fear of canines.

> Will offering food to the deities constitute a

> remedy for this problem?

>

> [Visti] If the Hari worship is being continued, then

> its fine. Yes please do

> that mantra, for you it would become an atmalinga

> mantra – this type of

> worship is not easy i’ve been told.

>

> As for feeding dogs. Whilst you need not do this

> personally, you can see to

> it that others ensure this happens, i.e. through

> donation to dog-shelters

> every Sunday or during Suns Hora until Suns antara

> dasa begins. Please look

> for this opportunity.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Supriti

>

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> Ashram.

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> Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> animals.

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Dear Shripal,

Namaskar

Saptarishi

nadi seems to refer to parivartana happening between three planets.

However we

should understand that as long as it is more than two, then the change or

transformation is not immediete but must occur through another individual. i.e.

if third lord is in the fifth whilst fifth lord is in the ninth and ninth lord

has then gone to the third – then it implies that a transformation is

occuring between the third and ninth houses, i.e. a khala parivartana. But the

children or followers, indicated by the fifth lord will cause the parivartana

to happen, as they are bridging this parivartana between third and ninth.

This way

the children/followers step in and cause this transformation between the third

and ninth.

But i have

not studied this much, so i will refrain from commenting on the chart results. Maybe

in the future.

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10.0pt">Jai Jinendra Visitiji,

Can you elaborate, can Parivartana takes place b/w

three planets.

In my DOB:16th March,1980,Place:Rajkot,Time:21:00hrs.

If you see a Navmasa,there is a privartana b/w

Vargottam Mercury,Saturn and Jupiter.

Is is a Parivartana and What will be it's effect

in

one's life and when will it occur.Please I will be

grateful if you explain it technically in details

manner; with proper reasoning.

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> 02 June 2005 15:35

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> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Vistiji's

parivartana

> yoga lesson Repost

>

> |OM Gurave Namah|

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Thank you for your response. Please

guide me

> through further

> clarifications.

>

> [supriti2] If a parivartana is not related to

lagna,

> AL or Lagnesh there is

> no focus of change and this can cause

vacillation

> between good and bad for a

> bad exchange.

>

> Hence, the 6th and 7th lord exchange, even

though it

> takes up a lot of

> energy (6th house)- will not cause a

permanent

> transformation in marriage.

> Can I deduce that during Aq narayana dasa, I

will

> have relationship problems

> as Aq is 7th from Me in Leo and during Pi

Narayan

> dasa my marriage will be

> better as Pi is 7th from Su in Virgo

>

> [Visti] Vacillation is not the right word.

Change or

> transformation is more

> right and the situation where the change

occurs must

> be analyzed very

> carefully. Here the parivartana being between

a good

> and an evil house must

> cause a good situation (marriage) to turn

sour

> (enmity). Later this will

> reverse again where a bitter situation

(enmity)

> becomes the cause of a great

> friendship. Your inference about your

Näräyaëa daçä

> is very correct.

>

> [supriti2] Let me try again. In Navamsa

there is an

> exchange between Sa and

> Ju. Ju is debilitated while Sa is in

Sagittarius.

> Sa is a malefic and Ju

> is a benefic. The exchange is with a dustana

so this

> is a bad exchange. Ju

> is the lord of 8th house and 5th house.

Sa the lord

> of the 6th and 7th

> house is in 5th house with A9 in it.

This shows

> there will be enmity

> between me (Sa-AK) and my relatives through

my

> marriage (Ju-GK) and that my

> father(A9) will raise the issue. This

will cause

> marital stress. Ju is

> lagnesh and Sa is 11th and 12th lord in Rasi,

what

> does this imply?

>

> [Visti] Always remember that navamsa is all

about

> relationships... Not just

> the intimate ones. So these two guys; Saturn

and

> Jupiter have decided to

> give each others results in matters of people

or

> relationships. Now look at

> your rasi chart and see the placement of

these two

> big-boys. Saturn is

> placed in your second house and joined your

> labhapada (a11). Among people

> the labhapada indicates friends and Saturn

causes

> sorrow on account of them.

> This could be in matters of money or family

that

> this sorrow comes, as this

> Saturn is placed in the second house. These

results

> will be given in Jupiter

> dasa/antara and not Saturn.

>

> [Visti] Jupiter is placed in the eighth house

with

> Venus, so two nice

> benefics there. They are joined putrapada

(a5)

> matripada (a4) and shatrupada

> (a6). Jupiter and Venus are well placed here,

and

> will ensure good news in

> relationships with children (a5)

mother/family (a4)

> and in matters of

> service/job (a6). These good results will be

given

> by Saturn and not

> Jupiter. I believe you gave birth to a child

during

> Saturn antara dasa.

>

> [supriti2] I have understood this

conceptually but

> what does Sa becoming

> source of livelihood mean in the

materialistic

> world. Since it is the

> karaka of 8th house does it mean

occult/jyotish will

> become a source of

> livelihood. Right now I make a living

in the

> technology industry. This is

> signified by Rh I think and is with Sa in

Navamsa.

>

> [Visti] Well, as long as we are not looking

at

> lordships, think in lines of

> people. It can also indicate occultists and

> astrologers (eighth house)

> become a stronger part of your own family or

> group/kula (second) whilst own

> family members take renunciation or become

more

> spiritual.

>

> [Visti] I’ve thought about it, and i

don’t think

> mantra is enough. The

> planets in the sixth require some offering or

bali.

> Since they are joined

> your A10 they will block your career and

status

> (even your title). So with

> whichever mantra you do, you MUST offer food.

>

> Now all these planets in leo could indicate

“feeding

> lions” but this is too

> much to ask. Leo also indicates dogs or large

> canines. If you have a dog,

> make sure you make a point to feed it well.

If not,

> then either get a puppy

> and feed it, or start finding dogs to feed,

or

> donate for dog welfare –

> specifically for food. Do this and regularly

worship

> Narasimha. Do you know

> the Anushtup Narasimha mantra (ugraveeram

> mahavishnum...)? If you do then

> please recite it. Did your family used to

worship a

> Guru or Shiva moorty but

> have stopped doing so? This must be taken up

again

> as well.

>

> [supriti2]I currently pray to

durga/bagalamukhi –

> Ma being my ishta is with

> Mo.

My diksha guru gave me mantra for durga and

> guruji recommended I also

> pray to her as bagalamukhi. I used to

pray to Shiv

> for a very long time but

> have not done so in a long time. My

father’s family

> used to pray to Kali,

> durga. My paternal grandfather used to

do chandi

> paath everyday. They had

> a guru who prayed to Shiv, durga, kali and

was from

> Vaidyanath/Deoghar. My

> maternal family prays to gaur hari –

bal gopal.

> Their guru prays to

> Krishna.

Lately I feel like praying to Shiv ji with

> the jyotirlinga mantra

> – om namah shivay namo kaaleshvaraya.

Also if

> possible can you suggest

> another remedy than feeding dogs. I

have an

> unfounded fear of canines.

> Will offering food to the deities constitute

a

> remedy for this problem?

>

> [Visti] If the Hari worship is being

continued, then

> its fine. Yes please do

> that mantra, for you it would become an

atmalinga

> mantra – this type of

> worship is not easy i’ve been told.

>

> As for feeding dogs. Whilst you need not do

this

> personally, you can see to

> it that others ensure this happens, i.e.

through

> donation to dog-shelters

> every Sunday or during Suns Hora until Suns

antara

> dasa begins. Please look

> for this opportunity.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Supriti

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June 4, 2005

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Visti,

I guess it is difficult to stop looking at ones own chart while reading articles

like yours. I would like to interpret the effects of parivartana in my chart

correctly too.

1. Rashi Parivartana: Between 2H and 12H, by placement of Moon (12L) and Mercury

(2L). Tatwas are different but not a serious mismatch. Mercury is conjoined with

Lagnesh Sun and hence the the parivartana will bring about a change in me and

focus will be from Moon to Mercury, i.e from Satvik to Rajasik! in Mercury's

direction and focused around the 12H. Moving from 2H to 12th shows resources

moving towards charity or losses! Whereas movement from Satvik to Rajasik shows

a shift towards materialistic activities! I see a bit of contradiction in this.

Can you please clarify?

Looking at these houses from AL, the shift is taking place towards 2H. Mercury

is lord of AL. Does this show a shift towards materialistic activities again?

Moon is AK and Mercury AmK. So would the parivartana involve me and a minister?

Who plays the focal role. minister? Who is a minister in this context?

2. In the examples given in your articles you have linked the timings with Maha

dasas of planets involved in parivartana for major changes. In the following

examples you are implying swings from one to another from one antar to another!

I take it that both are valid. I will be moving to Mercury MD in a few years. Do

you see any major change due to parivartana?

3. Karka parivartana between Sun (12H) and Saturn (1H). Both are in MKS! Does

this mean that Saturn becomes the protector for self while Sun the karka for

Disease, losses etc? If I take Sun as father and Saturn as elder brother, the

parivartana does not fit in reality.

4. Karka parivartana between Mars (11H) and Jupiter (6H). Does this mean that

Mars functions as labhakarka and Jupiter as shatrukarka or for competition,

debts etc? Would this imply mother (Mars) playing the role of Guru (Jupiter)

and visa versa? Please tell us a bit more on Karka parivartana.

5. I do not have D9 parivartana, but from your article I take it that this

parivartana is the one where planets also give each other's effects during

their dasas.

Thank you and kind regards

Ramesh

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June 02, 2005 4:40 AMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] Vistiji's parivartana yoga lesson Repost

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Dear Supriti, Namaskar

When the parivartana doesn’t join the lagna, lagnesh or arudha lagna, then the

focus is not clear as far as the native is concerned. Comments below.

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Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Vistiji's parivartana

yoga lesson Repost