Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Guruji, Pranaam Attached/below is the chart of a young lad who was caught smoking at (boarding) school, and subsequently expelled - it happened three or four months ago I think - so during Saturn-Mercury dasa. As a result he's having trouble gaining entry into another school. The parents are confused also. Natal Chart July 31, 1989 Time: 2:36:00 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 1 W 55' 00", 52 N 28' 00" Birmingham, United Kingdom In my limited view I don't see any risk of major drug addiction or consumption, so I guess it was 'minor' in that sense. Indeed it seems quite a nice chart - Gaj-kesari in lagna, strong Sun joined AK. What caused this event? Can you give any advice for getting him back on track? Oh, I'm not sure about Navamsa lagna - I don't know enough about him. Sagittarius lagna would enforce the tapaswi yoga already present in the Rasi chart. Thank you, Samir 7 31 1989 2.360000 -1.000000 1.550000 52.280000 0.000000 0.000000 -1.000000 1 235 Birmingham United^Kingdom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namskar. Caught smoking what? As for addictions, lagnesh is joined surya who is afflicted by Rahu... Budha is lagnesh and atmakarak and is also fourth lord. This is where the hrd lessons will come from. Budha is neecha in navamsa, and we need to remedy this. Chaturdashi dosha is also there, and is affecting the fourth house. There is no doubt that he needs to worship Shiva to get over the Chaturdashi dosha and atmakaraka dosha. As him or his parents to worship Shiva as Malikaarjuna with the mantra; “Om Namah Shivaaya Malikaarjunaaya Haum Joom Sah”. There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn’t the tapasvi. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Samir Shah 21 August 2005 07:31 [Om Krishna Guru] Caught smoking... 12.0pt"> || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Guruji, Pranaam Attached/below is the chart of a young lad who was caught smoking at (boarding) school, and subsequently expelled - it happened three or four months ago I think - so during Saturn-Mercury dasa. As a result he's having trouble gaining entry into another school. The parents are confused also. 12.0pt">Natal Chart July 31, 1989 Time: 2:36:00 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 1 W 55' 00", 52 N 28' 00" Birmingham, United Kingdom 12.0pt"> In my limited view I don't see any risk of major drug addiction or consumption, so I guess it was 'minor' in that sense. Indeed it seems quite a nice chart - Gaj-kesari in lagna, strong Sun joined AK. What caused this event? Can you give any advice for getting him back on track? Oh, I'm not sure about Navamsa lagna - I don't know enough about him. Sagittarius lagna would enforce the tapaswi yoga already present in the Rasi chart. Thank you, Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Guruji, Pranaam To my knowledge it was normal cigarette tobacco - but I'm not sure. I will pass on the advice, thank you. Who is the tapasvi? - the (future) spouse? I take it Navamsa lagna is Capricorn. Pranaam, Samir At 15:05 03/09/2005, you wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namskar. Caught smoking what? As for addictions, lagnesh is joined surya who is afflicted by Rahu... Budha is lagnesh and atmakarak and is also fourth lord. This is where the hrd lessons will come from. Budha is neecha in navamsa, and we need to remedy this. Chaturdashi dosha is also there, and is affecting the fourth house. There is no doubt that he needs to worship Shiva to get over the Chaturdashi dosha and atmakaraka dosha. As him or his parents to worship Shiva as Malikaarjuna with the mantra; “Om Namah Shivaaya Malikaarjunaaya Haum Joom Sah”. There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn’t the tapasvi. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [ ] On Behalf Of Samir Shah 21 August 2005 07:31 [Om Krishna Guru] Caught smoking... || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Guruji, Pranaam Attached/below is the chart of a young lad who was caught smoking at (boarding) school, and subsequently expelled - it happened three or four months ago I think - so during Saturn-Mercury dasa. As a result he's having trouble gaining entry into another school. The parents are confused also. Natal Chart July 31, 1989 Time: 2:36:00 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 1 W 55' 00", 52 N 28' 00" Birmingham, United Kingdom In my limited view I don't see any risk of major drug addiction or consumption, so I guess it was 'minor' in that sense. Indeed it seems quite a nice chart - Gaj-kesari in lagna, strong Sun joined AK. What caused this event? Can you give any advice for getting him back on track? Oh, I'm not sure about Navamsa lagna - I don't know enough about him. Sagittarius lagna would enforce the tapaswi yoga already present in the Rasi chart. Thank you, Samir ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Visit your group " " on the web. Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn and Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't count as Tapaswi yoga? Regards, Orest , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't the tapasvi. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Orest, Namaskar I think the condition is that the combination must associate with Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects of the tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart. That's why I said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the yoga would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to Navamsa lagna as well. That's my understanding. Best wishes, Samir At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote: Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn and Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't count as Tapaswi yoga? Regards, Orest , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't the tapasvi. > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite . Make your home page http://us.click./dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/C9XolB/TM --~-> ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today <*> / <*> <*> Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Samir, Namaskar. Tapaswi yoga (Ve,Sa,Ke in trines to each other) can exist in one of the four trikonas - i.e. Dharma trikona (1,5,9), Artha Trikona (2,6,10) Kaama Trikona (3,7,11) and Moksha Trikona (4,8,12). A Tapaswi yoga doesn't necessarily mean that the person will be a monk/sadhu in the literal sense. A Tapaswi yoga in the artha or kaama trikona would result in a person who will be disinterested in money/resourses or in opposite sex and such strong disinterest underlines the theme of his/her tapasya. However, variations of the yoga within a particular trikona (various permutations of these three planets) is something to be researched about. This is to my understanding. I don't think Lagna/lagnesha has to be involved but I think if lagna/lagnesha/AK does get involved, it will be a stronger yoga. One thing to realize is that a Tapaswi is not the same as a pravrajya yoga and it not counted as one of those as well. Hence it must has more to do with tapasya and not renunciation per se. Best regards, Sourav =================================================================== , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> wrote: > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Orest, Namaskar > > I think the condition is that the combination must associate with > Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects of the > tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart. That's why I > said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the yoga > would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to Navamsa > lagna as well. > > That's my understanding. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > > > At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote: > > >Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn and > >Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't > >count as Tapaswi yoga? > > > >Regards, > >Orest > > > >, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > >wrote: > > > > > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't the > >tapasvi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > Links > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Dear Sourav and other members, Namaskar! I have Ve, Sa, Ke in trines to each other but Sa doensn't aspect Ve with Ke. Does it counts as Tapaswi yoga? my birth details: date: 20 Febr. 1981 time: 9:07 a.m. zone: 3 east of GMT place: 23e50, 53n41 With Regards, Yuri , "Sourav Chowdhury" <souravc108@y. ...> wrote: > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Samir, > Namaskar. Tapaswi yoga (Ve,Sa,Ke in trines to each other) > can exist in one of the four trikonas - i.e. Dharma trikona (1,5,9), > Artha Trikona (2,6,10) Kaama Trikona (3,7,11) and Moksha Trikona > (4,8,12). A Tapaswi yoga doesn't necessarily mean that the person > will be a monk/sadhu in the literal sense. > > A Tapaswi yoga in the artha or kaama trikona would result in a > person who will be disinterested in money/resourses or in opposite > sex and such strong disinterest underlines the theme of his/her > tapasya. However, variations of the yoga within a particular trikona > (various permutations of these three planets) is something to be > researched about. > > This is to my understanding. I don't think Lagna/lagnesha has to be > involved but I think if lagna/lagnesha/AK does get involved, it will > be a stronger yoga. > > One thing to realize is that a Tapaswi is not the same as a > pravrajya yoga and it not counted as one of those as well. Hence it > must has more to do with tapasya and not renunciation per se. > > Best regards, > > Sourav > =================================================================== > , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> > wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Orest, Namaskar > > > > I think the condition is that the combination must associate with > > Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects of > the > > tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart. That's why > I > > said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the yoga > > would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to > Navamsa > > lagna as well. > > > > That's my understanding. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Samir > > > > > > > > At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote: > > > > >Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn > and > > >Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't > > >count as Tapaswi yoga? > > > > > >Regards, > > >Orest > > > > > >, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't > the > > >tapasvi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Sourav, Namaskar Thanks for sharing your understanding. Let me copy something that Vistiji wrote in the past: Tapaswi Yoga need not be formed by Rasi Dristi alone. The Yoga could be formed by Trinal presence, or even Graha Dristi. Gurudeva has shown this before in the Chart of Sarada Ma. Also remember that the Yoga should be transfered to the lagna of the person in some way. I think the point here is that the intellect (i.e., lagna/lagnesha) of the person must be somehow linked to the yoga, for them to be aware of the purpose of it therefore to use the tapasya to positive effect (whichever trikona this tapasya will relate to - even tapasya for material gain is a part of one's evolution). If this link is not there, then it might mean that the person tries very hard, but without proper focus and intention - a blind action to some extent. However Guruji said in his analysis that "there is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... at least he isn't the tapasvi." - indicating that perhaps someone else is. I haven't figured out who yet: 11th lord Mars is joined Ketu/Venus, so perhaps that has something to do with it. Sarada Ma's chart is attached for convenience. Please do share your thoughts! Best wishes, Samir At 08:05 05/09/2005, you wrote: || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Samir, Namaskar. Tapaswi yoga (Ve,Sa,Ke in trines to each other) can exist in one of the four trikonas - i.e. Dharma trikona (1,5,9), Artha Trikona (2,6,10) Kaama Trikona (3,7,11) and Moksha Trikona (4,8,12). A Tapaswi yoga doesn't necessarily mean that the person will be a monk/sadhu in the literal sense. A Tapaswi yoga in the artha or kaama trikona would result in a person who will be disinterested in money/resourses or in opposite sex and such strong disinterest underlines the theme of his/her tapasya. However, variations of the yoga within a particular trikona (various permutations of these three planets) is something to be researched about. This is to my understanding. I don't think Lagna/lagnesha has to be involved but I think if lagna/lagnesha/AK does get involved, it will be a stronger yoga. One thing to realize is that a Tapaswi is not the same as a pravrajya yoga and it not counted as one of those as well. Hence it must has more to do with tapasya and not renunciation per se. Best regards, Sourav =================================================================== , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> wrote: > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Orest, Namaskar > > I think the condition is that the combination must associate with > Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects of the > tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart. That's why I > said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the yoga > would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to Navamsa > lagna as well. > > That's my understanding. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > > > At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote: > > >Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn and > >Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't > >count as Tapaswi yoga? > > > >Regards, > >Orest > > > >, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > >wrote: > > > > > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't the > >tapasvi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > Links > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite . Make your home page http://us.click./dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/C9XolB/TM --~-> ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today <*> / <*> <*> Your 12 22 1853 19.150000 -5.300000 -87.070000 23.140000 0.000000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Samir-bhai, Namaskar. I agree that involvement of lagna/lagnesha (and even AK, why not!) strengthens the yoga. Thus the yoga in the dharma trikona is readily significant as it involves lagna, 5H (purvapunya/devotion) and 9H (dharma). The yoga in the kaama trikona is also significant from this view as the planet in the 7H (if there is one and if its not Ke) will aspect the lagna. If Ju joins one of these planets in this yoga it is a real boost as Ju has 5-th and 9th aspects and can can provide the drishti of wisdom to all the planets (in some cases). If Ju is strongly involved with the yoga giving planets, then even if there is no direct transfer to lagna/lagnesha, there is a good sense of direction. I haven't tested this but I suspect this is also true: the type of trikona gives a direction to the tapasya. E.g. in artha trikona (even w/o transfer to lagna/lagnesha) the yoga will result in the native's tapasya on a more material field, although this doesn't lend itself much to his/her spiritual development. One note of caution: Tapaswi yoga is could be quite common. But we dont see such strong tapasya such commonly. Hence, unless very strong tapaswi yoga is there its better not to put too much importance to it. Even then you should check the strengths/avasthas/vaishesikamsas of Sa,Ke,Ve and their closeness to the house cusps. Would you kindly send the chart of Holy Mother to my e-mail. I don't receive attachment here. Best Regards, Sourav ==================================================================== , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> wrote: > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > Thanks for sharing your understanding. Let me copy something that > Vistiji wrote in the past: > > >Tapaswi Yoga need not be formed by Rasi Dristi alone. The Yoga could > >be formed by Trinal presence, or even Graha Dristi. Gurudeva has > >shown this before in the Chart of Sarada Ma. Also remember that the > >Yoga should be transfered to the lagna of the person in some way. > > I think the point here is that the intellect (i.e., lagna/lagnesha) > of the person must be somehow linked to the yoga, for them to be > aware of the purpose of it therefore to use the tapasya to positive > effect (whichever trikona this tapasya will relate to - even tapasya > for material gain is a part of one's evolution). If this link is not > there, then it might mean that the person tries very hard, but > without proper focus and intention - a blind action to some extent. > > However Guruji said in his analysis that "there is no Tapasvi yoga in > the rasi chart... at least he isn't the tapasvi." - indicating that > perhaps someone else is. I haven't figured out who yet: 11th lord > Mars is joined Ketu/Venus, so perhaps that has something to do with it. > > Sarada Ma's chart is attached for convenience. > > Please do share your thoughts! > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > > At 08:05 05/09/2005, you wrote: > >|| Hare Rama Krishna || > > > >Dear Samir, > > Namaskar. Tapaswi yoga (Ve,Sa,Ke in trines to each other) > >can exist in one of the four trikonas - i.e. Dharma trikona (1,5,9), > >Artha Trikona (2,6,10) Kaama Trikona (3,7,11) and Moksha Trikona > >(4,8,12). A Tapaswi yoga doesn't necessarily mean that the person > >will be a monk/sadhu in the literal sense. > > > >A Tapaswi yoga in the artha or kaama trikona would result in a > >person who will be disinterested in money/resourses or in opposite > >sex and such strong disinterest underlines the theme of his/her > >tapasya. However, variations of the yoga within a particular trikona > >(various permutations of these three planets) is something to be > >researched about. > > > >This is to my understanding. I don't think Lagna/lagnesha has to be > >involved but I think if lagna/lagnesha/AK does get involved, it will > >be a stronger yoga. > > > >One thing to realize is that a Tapaswi is not the same as a > >pravrajya yoga and it not counted as one of those as well. Hence it > >must has more to do with tapasya and not renunciation per se. > > > >Best regards, > > > >Sourav > >=================================================================== > >, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> > >wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Orest, Namaskar > > > > > > I think the condition is that the combination must associate with > > > Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects of > >the > > > tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart. That's why > >I > > > said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the yoga > > > would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to > >Navamsa > > > lagna as well. > > > > > > That's my understanding. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn > >and > > > >Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't > > > >count as Tapaswi yoga? > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > >Orest > > > > > > > >, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't > >the > > > >tapasvi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > > > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > > >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > >reading today > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > Links > > > > > > > > > > 12 > 22 > 1853 > 19.150000 > -5.300000 > -87.070000 > 23.140000 > 0.000000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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