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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Guruji, Pranaam

Attached/below is the chart of a young lad who was caught smoking at

(boarding) school, and subsequently expelled - it happened three or four

months ago I think - so during Saturn-Mercury dasa. As a result

he's having trouble gaining entry into another school. The parents

are confused also.

Natal Chart

July 31,

1989

Time: 2:36:00

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 1 W 55' 00",

52 N 28' 00"

Birmingham, United Kingdom

In my limited view I don't see any risk of major drug addiction or

consumption, so I guess it was 'minor' in that sense. Indeed it

seems quite a nice chart - Gaj-kesari in lagna, strong Sun joined

AK. What caused this event?

Can you give any advice for getting him back on track?

Oh, I'm not sure about Navamsa lagna - I don't know enough about

him. Sagittarius lagna would enforce the tapaswi yoga already

present in the Rasi chart.

Thank you,

Samir

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Dear Samir,

Namskar.

Caught

smoking what? As for addictions, lagnesh is joined surya who is afflicted by

Rahu...

Budha is

lagnesh and atmakarak and is also fourth lord. This is where the hrd lessons will

come from. Budha is neecha in navamsa, and we need to remedy this.

Chaturdashi

dosha is also there, and is affecting the fourth house.

There is no

doubt that he needs to worship Shiva to get over the Chaturdashi dosha and

atmakaraka dosha.

As him or

his parents to worship Shiva as Malikaarjuna with the mantra;

“Om

Namah Shivaaya Malikaarjunaaya Haum Joom Sah”.

 

There is no

Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn’t the tapasvi.

 

Best

wishes,

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[Om Krishna Guru] Caught

smoking...

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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Guruji, Pranaam

Attached/below is the chart of a young lad who was caught smoking at (boarding)

school, and subsequently expelled - it happened three or four months ago I

think - so during Saturn-Mercury dasa. As a result he's having trouble

gaining entry into another school. The parents are confused also.

12.0pt">Natal Chart

July 31, 1989

Time: 2:36:00

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 1 W 55' 00", 52 N

28' 00"

Birmingham, United Kingdom

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In my limited view I don't see any risk of major drug addiction or consumption,

so I guess it was 'minor' in that sense. Indeed it seems quite a nice

chart - Gaj-kesari in lagna, strong Sun joined AK. What caused this

event?

Can you give any advice for getting him back on track?

Oh, I'm not sure about Navamsa lagna - I don't know enough about him.

Sagittarius lagna would enforce the tapaswi yoga already present in the Rasi

chart.

Thank you,

Samir

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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Guruji, Pranaam

To my knowledge it was normal cigarette tobacco - but I'm not sure.

I will pass on the advice, thank you.

Who is the tapasvi? - the (future) spouse? I take it Navamsa lagna

is Capricorn.

Pranaam,

Samir

At 15:05 03/09/2005, you wrote:

||Hare Rama

Krsna||

Dear

Samir, Namskar.

Caught smoking what? As for addictions, lagnesh is joined surya who is

afflicted by Rahu...

Budha is lagnesh and atmakarak and is also fourth lord. This is where the

hrd lessons will come from. Budha is neecha in navamsa, and we need to

remedy this.

Chaturdashi dosha is also there, and is affecting the fourth house.

There is no doubt that he needs to worship Shiva to get over the

Chaturdashi dosha and atmakaraka dosha.

As him or his parents to worship Shiva as Malikaarjuna with the mantra;

“Om Namah Shivaaya Malikaarjunaaya Haum Joom Sah”.

 

There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn’t the

tapasvi.

 

Best wishes,

***

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For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

or

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] On Behalf Of Samir

Shah

21 August 2005 07:31

 

[Om Krishna Guru] Caught smoking...

 

|| Hare Rama

Krsna ||

Dear Guruji, Pranaam

Attached/below is the chart of a young lad who was caught smoking at

(boarding) school, and subsequently expelled - it happened three or four

months ago I think - so during Saturn-Mercury dasa. As a result

he's having trouble gaining entry into another school. The parents

are confused also.

Natal Chart

July 31,

1989

Time: 2:36:00

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 1 W 55' 00",

52 N 28' 00"

Birmingham, United Kingdom

In my limited view I don't see any risk of major drug addiction or

consumption, so I guess it was 'minor' in that sense. Indeed it

seems quite a nice chart - Gaj-kesari in lagna, strong Sun joined

AK. What caused this event?

Can you give any advice for getting him back on track?

Oh, I'm not sure about Navamsa lagna - I don't know enough about

him. Sagittarius lagna would enforce the tapaswi yoga already

present in the Rasi chart.

Thank you,

Samir

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Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn and

Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't

count as Tapaswi yoga?

 

Regards,

Orest

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

 

> There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't the

tapasvi.

>

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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Orest, Namaskar

I think the condition is that the combination must associate with

Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects of the

tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart. That's

why I said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the yoga

would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to Navamsa lagna

as well.

That's my understanding.

Best wishes,

Samir

At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote:

Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora

- "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn and

Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't

count as Tapaswi yoga?

Regards,

Orest

, "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

wrote:

> There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't the

tapasvi.

>

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Samir,

Namaskar. Tapaswi yoga (Ve,Sa,Ke in trines to each other)

can exist in one of the four trikonas - i.e. Dharma trikona (1,5,9),

Artha Trikona (2,6,10) Kaama Trikona (3,7,11) and Moksha Trikona

(4,8,12). A Tapaswi yoga doesn't necessarily mean that the person

will be a monk/sadhu in the literal sense.

 

A Tapaswi yoga in the artha or kaama trikona would result in a

person who will be disinterested in money/resourses or in opposite

sex and such strong disinterest underlines the theme of his/her

tapasya. However, variations of the yoga within a particular trikona

(various permutations of these three planets) is something to be

researched about.

 

This is to my understanding. I don't think Lagna/lagnesha has to be

involved but I think if lagna/lagnesha/AK does get involved, it will

be a stronger yoga.

 

One thing to realize is that a Tapaswi is not the same as a

pravrajya yoga and it not counted as one of those as well. Hence it

must has more to do with tapasya and not renunciation per se.

 

Best regards,

 

Sourav

===================================================================

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Orest, Namaskar

>

> I think the condition is that the combination must associate with

> Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects of

the

> tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart. That's why

I

> said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the yoga

> would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to

Navamsa

> lagna as well.

>

> That's my understanding.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

> At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote:

>

> >Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn

and

> >Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't

> >count as Tapaswi yoga?

> >

> >Regards,

> >Orest

> >

> >, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> >wrote:

> >

> > > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't

the

> >tapasvi.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >~ om tat sat ~

> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Sourav and other members, Namaskar!

 

I have Ve, Sa, Ke in trines to each other but Sa doensn't aspect Ve

with Ke. Does it counts as Tapaswi yoga?

 

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, "Sourav Chowdhury" <souravc108@y.

...> wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Samir,

> Namaskar. Tapaswi yoga (Ve,Sa,Ke in trines to each other)

> can exist in one of the four trikonas - i.e. Dharma trikona (1,5,9),

> Artha Trikona (2,6,10) Kaama Trikona (3,7,11) and Moksha Trikona

> (4,8,12). A Tapaswi yoga doesn't necessarily mean that the person

> will be a monk/sadhu in the literal sense.

>

> A Tapaswi yoga in the artha or kaama trikona would result in a

> person who will be disinterested in money/resourses or in opposite

> sex and such strong disinterest underlines the theme of his/her

> tapasya. However, variations of the yoga within a particular trikona

> (various permutations of these three planets) is something to be

> researched about.

>

> This is to my understanding. I don't think Lagna/lagnesha has to be

> involved but I think if lagna/lagnesha/AK does get involved, it will

> be a stronger yoga.

>

> One thing to realize is that a Tapaswi is not the same as a

> pravrajya yoga and it not counted as one of those as well. Hence it

> must has more to do with tapasya and not renunciation per se.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sourav

> ===================================================================

> , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

> wrote:

> > || Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Orest, Namaskar

> >

> > I think the condition is that the combination must associate with

> > Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects of

> the

> > tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart. That's why

> I

> > said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the yoga

> > would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to

> Navamsa

> > lagna as well.

> >

> > That's my understanding.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Samir

> >

> >

> >

> > At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote:

> >

> > >Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus, Saturn

> and

> > >Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination doesn't

> > >count as Tapaswi yoga?

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >Orest

> > >

> > >, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > >wrote:

> > >

> > > > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he isn't

> the

> > >tapasvi.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >~ om tat sat ~

> > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> > >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> > > Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

Thanks for sharing your understanding. Let me copy something that

Vistiji wrote in the past:

Tapaswi Yoga

need not be formed by Rasi Dristi alone. The Yoga could be formed by

Trinal presence, or even Graha Dristi. Gurudeva has shown this before in

the Chart of Sarada Ma. Also remember that the Yoga should be transfered

to the lagna of the person in some way.

I think the point here is that the intellect (i.e., lagna/lagnesha) of

the person must be somehow linked to the yoga, for them to be aware of

the purpose of it therefore to use the tapasya to positive effect

(whichever trikona this tapasya will relate to - even tapasya for

material gain is a part of one's evolution). If this link is not

there, then it might mean that the person tries very hard, but without

proper focus and intention - a blind action to some extent.

However Guruji said in his analysis that "there is no Tapasvi yoga

in the rasi chart... at least he isn't the tapasvi." - indicating

that perhaps someone else is. I haven't figured out who yet:

11th lord Mars is joined Ketu/Venus, so perhaps that has something to do

with it.

Sarada Ma's chart is attached for convenience.

Please do share your thoughts!

Best wishes,

Samir

At 08:05 05/09/2005, you wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Samir,

Namaskar. Tapaswi

yoga (Ve,Sa,Ke in trines to each other)

can exist in one of the four trikonas - i.e. Dharma trikona (1,5,9),

Artha Trikona (2,6,10) Kaama Trikona (3,7,11) and Moksha Trikona

(4,8,12). A Tapaswi yoga doesn't necessarily mean that the person

will be a monk/sadhu in the literal sense.

A Tapaswi yoga in the artha or kaama trikona would result in a

person who will be disinterested in money/resourses or in opposite

sex and such strong disinterest underlines the theme of his/her

tapasya. However, variations of the yoga within a particular trikona

(various permutations of these three planets) is something to be

researched about.

This is to my understanding. I don't think Lagna/lagnesha has to be

involved but I think if lagna/lagnesha/AK does get involved, it will

be a stronger yoga.

One thing to realize is that a Tapaswi is not the same as a

pravrajya yoga and it not counted as one of those as well. Hence it

must has more to do with tapasya and not renunciation per se.

Best regards,

Sourav

===================================================================

, Samir Shah

<solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Orest, Namaskar

>

> I think the condition is that the combination must associate with

> Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects of

the

> tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart.

That's why

I

> said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the yoga

> would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to

Navamsa

> lagna as well.

>

> That's my understanding.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

> At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote:

>

> >Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus,

Saturn

and

> >Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination

doesn't

> >count as Tapaswi yoga?

> >

> >Regards,

> >Orest

> >

> >, "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> >wrote:

> >

> > > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he

isn't

the

> >tapasvi.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >~ om tat sat ~

> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram.

> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Samir-bhai,

Namaskar. I agree that involvement of

lagna/lagnesha (and even AK, why not!) strengthens the yoga. Thus

the yoga in the dharma trikona is readily significant as it involves

lagna, 5H (purvapunya/devotion) and 9H (dharma). The yoga in the

kaama trikona is also significant from this view as the planet in

the 7H (if there is one and if its not Ke) will aspect the lagna.

 

If Ju joins one of these planets in this yoga it is a real boost as

Ju has 5-th and 9th aspects and can can provide the drishti of

wisdom to all the planets (in some cases). If Ju is strongly

involved with the yoga giving planets, then even if there is no

direct transfer to lagna/lagnesha, there is a good sense of

direction.

 

 

I haven't tested this but I suspect this is also true: the type of

trikona gives a direction to the tapasya. E.g. in artha trikona

(even w/o transfer to lagna/lagnesha) the yoga will result in the

native's tapasya on a more material field, although this doesn't

lend itself much to his/her spiritual development.

 

One note of caution: Tapaswi yoga is could be quite common. But we

dont see such strong tapasya such commonly. Hence, unless very

strong tapaswi yoga is there its better not to put too much

importance to it. Even then you should check the

strengths/avasthas/vaishesikamsas of Sa,Ke,Ve and their closeness to

the house cusps.

 

Would you kindly send the chart of Holy Mother to my e-mail. I don't

receive attachment here.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sourav

====================================================================

 

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Thanks for sharing your understanding. Let me copy something that

> Vistiji wrote in the past:

>

> >Tapaswi Yoga need not be formed by Rasi Dristi alone. The Yoga

could

> >be formed by Trinal presence, or even Graha Dristi. Gurudeva has

> >shown this before in the Chart of Sarada Ma. Also remember that

the

> >Yoga should be transfered to the lagna of the person in some way.

>

> I think the point here is that the intellect (i.e.,

lagna/lagnesha)

> of the person must be somehow linked to the yoga, for them to be

> aware of the purpose of it therefore to use the tapasya to

positive

> effect (whichever trikona this tapasya will relate to - even

tapasya

> for material gain is a part of one's evolution). If this link is

not

> there, then it might mean that the person tries very hard, but

> without proper focus and intention - a blind action to some extent.

>

> However Guruji said in his analysis that "there is no Tapasvi yoga

in

> the rasi chart... at least he isn't the tapasvi." - indicating

that

> perhaps someone else is. I haven't figured out who yet: 11th

lord

> Mars is joined Ketu/Venus, so perhaps that has something to do

with it.

>

> Sarada Ma's chart is attached for convenience.

>

> Please do share your thoughts!

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

> At 08:05 05/09/2005, you wrote:

> >|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> >Dear Samir,

> > Namaskar. Tapaswi yoga (Ve,Sa,Ke in trines to each

other)

> >can exist in one of the four trikonas - i.e. Dharma trikona

(1,5,9),

> >Artha Trikona (2,6,10) Kaama Trikona (3,7,11) and Moksha Trikona

> >(4,8,12). A Tapaswi yoga doesn't necessarily mean that the person

> >will be a monk/sadhu in the literal sense.

> >

> >A Tapaswi yoga in the artha or kaama trikona would result in a

> >person who will be disinterested in money/resourses or in opposite

> >sex and such strong disinterest underlines the theme of his/her

> >tapasya. However, variations of the yoga within a particular

trikona

> >(various permutations of these three planets) is something to be

> >researched about.

> >

> >This is to my understanding. I don't think Lagna/lagnesha has to

be

> >involved but I think if lagna/lagnesha/AK does get involved, it

will

> >be a stronger yoga.

> >

> >One thing to realize is that a Tapaswi is not the same as a

> >pravrajya yoga and it not counted as one of those as well. Hence

it

> >must has more to do with tapasya and not renunciation per se.

> >

> >Best regards,

> >

> >Sourav

>

>===================================================================

> >, Samir Shah

<solaris.smoke@g...>

> >wrote:

> > > || Hare Rama Krsna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Orest, Namaskar

> > >

> > > I think the condition is that the combination must associate

with

> > > Lagna/Lagnesh for the native himself to experience the effects

of

> >the

> > > tapasvi yoga. This doesn't happen in the Rasi chart. That's

why

> >I

> > > said initially that if he had Sagittarius navamsa lagna, the

yoga

> > > would be enforced, because then it would exist in trines to

> >Navamsa

> > > lagna as well.

> > >

> > > That's my understanding.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Samir

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > At 14:09 04/09/2005, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >Dear, Visti, in Jagannatha Hora - "Tapaswi Yoga - Venus,

Saturn

> >and

> > > >Ketu in mutual konas", does it mean that such combination

doesn't

> > > >count as Tapaswi yoga?

> > > >

> > > >Regards,

> > > >Orest

> > > >

> > > >, "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > >wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > There is no Tapasvi yoga in the rasi chart... atleast he

isn't

> >the

> > > >tapasvi.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >~ om tat sat ~

> > > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > > >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

> > > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> >reading today

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> >~ om tat sat ~

> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

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