RE: Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti Larsen

September 4, 2005

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Samir,

Namaskar. Please provide your birth data to me. Thanks.

Best Regards,

Sourav

==================================================

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Guruji, Pranaam,

>

> I (perhaps fortunately) don't have any retrograde grahas in my

chart,

> apart from the nodes of course. And there is no link between the

> AK/dispositor and the 11th house. So presumably one would have to

> look elsewhere to find the atma-level desire that brought me to

Jyotisa.

>

> AK is strong in the 11th house in D-24 - which is the only link I

can

> find, there being none in the Rasi chart. Does this mean that I

may

> not become too attached to Jyotisa?

>

> Pranaam,

>

> Samir

>

> At 11:02 03/09/2005, you wrote:

> >||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >Dear Michal, Namaskar

> >Just keep in mind that there must be a desire on the atma-level.

> >In the example you cite of George Bush, i've heard rumors that he

> >does seek the help of astrologers.

> >In your chart there is not link between atmakaraka and the

eleventh

> >house/lord. However we are also taught that retrograde planets

carry

> >a very strong desire from past lives, i.e. on an atma level.

> >Normally a planets desire manifests on an intellectual (lagna)

and

> >mental (mana) level. Retrograde planets have a desire manifest on

a

> >soul level as well.

> >You will notice that Guru is eleventh lord in your chart and is

> >retrograde. Guru Mahadasa has been running since 2001.

> >Best wishes,

> >***

> >Visti Larsen

> >For services and articles visit:

> ><http://srigaruda.com>http://srigaruda.com or

> ><http://astrovisti.com>http://astrovisti.com

> >***

> >

> >----------

> >

> >[] On Behalf Of Michal

Dziwulski

> >03 September 2005 01:25

> >

> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

Larsen

> >

> >Hare Rama Krsna::

> >

> >Dear Visti, Namaskar,

> >

> >Regarding the following:

> >

> > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > there must be an

> > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > desire or ability to

> > > learn jyotish.

> >

> >Are there any other combinations for this? I found

> >that in all charts of great astrologers there was this

> >one combination you mention of Atmakaraka and eleventh

> >house in Rasi. There is no such combination in my own

> >chart, so where does my desire spring from? The other

> >point was that there are also many people with the

> >Atmakaraka in sambandha with eleventh house in Rasi

> >who have no faith, let alone desire, in Jyotish. So

> >how can we be sure? It seems that there is more to

> >it.

> >

> >Respectfully,

> >Michal.

> >

> >Om Namo Narayanaya::

> >

> >--- Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > >

> > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the eighth

> > > house giving an ability

> > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in this

> > > regard. Also i don't

> > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > jyotishas.

> > >

> > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > indicate how good you are at

> > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in a

> > > kendra or eleventh

> > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > when learning.

> > >

> > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application of

> > > the same.

> > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > scriptures, in a formal

> > > scene.

> > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with others

> > > and learning

> > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > knowledge whilst it is

> > > taught.

> > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person learn

> > > through hearing,

> > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > >

> > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > jyotish or chemistry.

> > >

> > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > there must be an

> > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > desire or ability to

> > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination which

> > > is always eulogized

> > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must associate

> > > with the eleventh house

> > > in Rasi.

> > >

> > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > mutual dristi with eleventh

> > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the kendras

> > > for fame through

> > > jyotish.

> > >

> > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > >

> > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > house.

> > >

> > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > lord.

> > >

> > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the eleventh

> > > house.

> > >

> > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > first, or figure out how it

> > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > this, you can look for yogas

> > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <<http://srigaruda.com>http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <<http://astrovisti.com>http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > [] On

> > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > >

> > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > person should have to

> > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish. Also

> > > in one email I

> > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > show ability for

> > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > in the 8th house.

> > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this mean

> > > the person has

> > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Shruti

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> > > Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > > Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > > Great who said that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > > free chart reading today

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > * Visit your group "

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> >~ om tat sat ~

> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

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September 8, 2005

Dear members,

This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own chart (11th

June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th House

as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani and 12th

Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of comparative

mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It began to

transform my life.

The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the 11th

with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and Internet and

actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by the Vakri

Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

Regards.

Anurag Sharma.

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

>

> The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show the

approach one

> has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the teachings

of the

> elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

teachings.

>

> Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from every

possible

> source.. focus is on understanding here.

>

> Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they can get

from

> actual teachers, and here there is less application and more theory

and

> philosophy.

>

> This way you can differentiate between the planets.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 03 September 2005 04:02

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti Larsen

>

> Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

>

> In line with the current discussion and what sameer asked...

>

> My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house of

education.

>

> What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th house.

>

> In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also form a yoga for

learning

> astrology.

>

> Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning through highly

spiritual

> person?

>

> Also can it indicate the person in the sense that "Ketu" is

Gurudev's Lagan

> lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

>

> Regards

>

> Ajay

>

> -

> "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> <>

> Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti Larsen

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna::

> >

> > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> >

> > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> >

> > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > trines.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal.

> >

> > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> >

> > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > >

> > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna and

> > > both are

> > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > mentioned atma-level

> > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > >

> > > I remember reading in your book that planets in 11th

> > > also indicate

> > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > learning through

> > > some tradition/parampara.

> > >

> > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > learning through a

> > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > >

> > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa resulting

> > > in less/zero

> > > fortune through this.

> > >

> > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Sameer

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > <visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > >

> > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the

> > > eighth house giving

> > > an ability

> > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in

> > > this regard. Also i

> > > don't

> > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > jyotishas.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > indicate how good

> > > you are at

> > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in

> > > a kendra or

> > > eleventh

> > > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > when learning.

> > > >

> > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application

> > > of the same.

> > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > scriptures, in a

> > > formal

> > > > scene.

> > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with

> > > others and learning

> > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > knowledge whilst

> > > it is

> > > > taught.

> > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person

> > > learn through

> > > hearing,

> > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > >

> > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > jyotish or

> > > chemistry.

> > > >

> > > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > there must be an

> > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > desire or

> > > ability to

> > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination

> > > which is always

> > > eulogized

> > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > associate with the

> > > eleventh house

> > > > in Rasi.

> > > >

> > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > mutual dristi with

> > > eleventh

> > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the

> > > kendras for fame

> > > through

> > > > jyotish.

> > > >

> > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > >

> > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > house.

> > > >

> > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > lord.

> > > >

> > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > eleventh house.

> > > >

> > > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > first, or figure

> > > out how it

> > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > this, you can look

> > > for yogas

> > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > >

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to

> > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > >

> > > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > person should have

> > > to

> > > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish.

> > > Also in one email I

> > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > show ability for

> > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > in the 8th

> > > house.

> > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this

> > > mean the person has

> > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Shruti

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > > Great who said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > > free chart

> > > reading today

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > * Visit your group "

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> > > the web.

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> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> > Links

> >

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

> _____

>

> * Visit your group "

> <> " on the web.

>

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September 9, 2005

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Sharma-ji,

Namaskar. My comments about AK/Combustion/Marriage as

per your chart is written as below. You are a very good astrologer

yourself. Perhaps you will know better.

Sun is the giver of everything. If Sun is atmakaraka, pride (being

the giver of everything) is what the native need to be cautious

about. Sun is also Lagnesha and in the throne (10H) hence this is

perhaps the most important lesson in Sun AK native. How to do it ?

by identifying with the fact that one is a part of everything else.

Hence, truely there is no giving or taking, truely speaking.

Grahas combust with Sun shows areas of life deprived so that lessons

are taught. Sun being AK there could be pride in relation to those

planets associating with the Sun. Close combustion enhances that

effect.

Sun being in Bhrastaamsa in D-60 increases this effect as Bhrashta

means that in past life the native has not been able to learn this

lesson and hence must to this in this life or next life.

Now permit me to come to the question of your being single as yet.

Cons: UL in 8H - difficulties in marriage.

Sa is 11L with Sun (arch enemy) but the conjuction is not

close (9 deg).

Sa is afflicted by 12L and dire malefic Mo.

Ve, karaka of marriage is with Ma giving a good DKY but also

at the same time Ma is badhakesha, indicating delay if not denia.

Ve is afflicted by aspect of 8L Ju

Ve is debilitated by presence of Me in its own house.

Ve is dispositor of 7L and conjoins A8.

Pros: UL-lord Ju is in strength and is aspected by Ve (karaka for

marriage) and dharmadhipati Ma which is significant.

2nd from UL is 9H and its lord is aspecting UL.

7th Lord in Navamsa is aspecting own house from Lagna.

Exalted Ju is aspecting 7H. But Ju is in maranakaraka sthana.

In Navamsa, Ve is Lagnesha and is aspected by yogakaraka and

Rasi 7L, Saturn.

Sa conjoins UL in Navamsa.

I think, there are marked difficulties in getting married (likely

due to Natives own views about that) but definitely there is a

possibility for marriage. Sa usually gives late marriage.

I haven't had a chance to look into the dasas yet.

Best Regards,

Sourav

================================================================

, "anuraagsharma27"

<anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> Dear members,

>

> This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own chart

(11th

> June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th

House

> as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani and

12th

> Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of comparative

> mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It began to

> transform my life.

>

> The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the 11th

> with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and Internet

and

> actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by the

Vakri

> Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

>

> Regards.

>

> Anurag Sharma.

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

> >

> > The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show the

> approach one

> > has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the

teachings

> of the

> > elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

> teachings.

> >

> > Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from every

> possible

> > source.. focus is on understanding here.

> >

> > Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they can

get

> from

> > actual teachers, and here there is less application and more

theory

> and

> > philosophy.

> >

> > This way you can differentiate between the planets.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > 03 September 2005 04:02

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

Larsen

> >

> > Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

> >

> > In line with the current discussion and what sameer asked...

> >

> > My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house of

> education.

> >

> > What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th house.

> >

> > In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also form a yoga

for

> learning

> > astrology.

> >

> > Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning through highly

> spiritual

> > person?

> >

> > Also can it indicate the person in the sense that "Ketu" is

> Gurudev's Lagan

> > lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ajay

> >

> > -

> > "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> > <>

> > Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

Larsen

> >

> > > Hare Rama Krsna::

> > >

> > > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> > >

> > > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> > >

> > > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > > trines.

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > > Michal.

> > >

> > > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> > >

> > > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > > >

> > > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna and

> > > > both are

> > > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > > mentioned atma-level

> > > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > > >

> > > > I remember reading in your book that planets in 11th

> > > > also indicate

> > > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > > learning through

> > > > some tradition/parampara.

> > > >

> > > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > > learning through a

> > > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > > >

> > > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa resulting

> > > > in less/zero

> > > > fortune through this.

> > > >

> > > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sameer

> > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > > <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the

> > > > eighth house giving

> > > > an ability

> > > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in

> > > > this regard. Also i

> > > > don't

> > > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > > jyotishas.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > > indicate how good

> > > > you are at

> > > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in

> > > > a kendra or

> > > > eleventh

> > > > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > > when learning.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application

> > > > of the same.

> > > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > > scriptures, in a

> > > > formal

> > > > > scene.

> > > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with

> > > > others and learning

> > > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > > knowledge whilst

> > > > it is

> > > > > taught.

> > > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person

> > > > learn through

> > > > hearing,

> > > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > > >

> > > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > > jyotish or

> > > > chemistry.

> > > > >

> > > > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > > there must be an

> > > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > > desire or

> > > > ability to

> > > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination

> > > > which is always

> > > > eulogized

> > > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > > associate with the

> > > > eleventh house

> > > > > in Rasi.

> > > > >

> > > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > > mutual dristi with

> > > > eleventh

> > > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the

> > > > kendras for fame

> > > > through

> > > > > jyotish.

> > > > >

> > > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > > lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > > eleventh house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > > first, or figure

> > > > out how it

> > > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > > this, you can look

> > > > for yogas

> > > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > >

> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > [] On

> > > > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > > >

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to

> > > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > > person should have

> > > > to

> > > > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish.

> > > > Also in one email I

> > > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > > show ability for

> > > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > > in the 8th

> > > > house.

> > > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this

> > > > mean the person has

> > > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Shruti

> > > > >

> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > > > Great who said

> > > > that the

> > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > animals.

> > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > > > free chart

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> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

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> reading today

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> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

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September 9, 2005

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Hare Räma

Kåñëa ||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

What range do you/Narasimhaji use for the combustion of Saturn? I

thought is was 15 degrees (taking into account latitude also of course) -

but Jagannatha Hora doesn't think Saturn is combust in this case (I get a

separation of around 10 degrees when taking latitude into account

also).

Another thing that may be relevant here is that the Amavasya dosha is

compounded by a Matri Shaapa. Rahu and Saturn lord the 7th house so

there will no doubt be shock/sorrow coming from there.

Warm regards,

Samir

At 18:22 09/09/2005, you wrote: