Guest guest Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Om Gurave Namah i have read Shri Sanjay Rath's paper on vedic emedies for curses and . I have few questions in mind 1.during the operative period of curses does all the good yogas negate its effect to some extent or they are inoperative? 2.I have noted that the curse is present in every kundali in some way or other (in my collection of kundali)is this the effect of kali yuga that person remains i the shackles of maya and will never get liberated until and unless some divine blessing is bestowed. 3.i am unable to decide the remedy in the following horoscope for curse date of birth : 7-03-1974 place of birth : sasaram (bihar)(exact palce is bhabhua) time of birth : 2.00am d-1 is asa follows ascendent-saggitarius with rahu in it ,venus in secondhouse capricorn,sun mercury and jupiter in third house aqarius,mars in sixth house taurus,sa and ketu in seventh house gemini,moon in ninth house leo. as per the guidelines by you moon is aspected by rahu saturn mars and sun and curse is there since moon is lord of eight house curse is of previous birth and due to curse of mother most malefic palnet is rahu which is always retrograde so as per guidelines no remedy at all. 4. you have guided that for retrograde palnets curse has to be beared and there is no remedy at all .so in that case curses by rahu and ketu have to be beared as they are always retrograde so no remedy at all. abhishek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Om Namo Bhagavathe Sathya Devaya Dear Abhishek, Namasthe. As far as I know, Gurujans please correct me, a curse can be given only by Satwik planets like Ju, Mer, Waxing Moon and Venus because they have more atmabala. That means two or more Malefic aspects from Rahu, Sani, Mars, Sun on the above benefic plantes. In the chart in question, I think there is 3rd and 4th aspect from Sat and Mars respectively on Moon, and hence causing Matru Shaapa. Srinivasa , "abhishek_ioc" <abhishek_ioc> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > i have read Shri Sanjay Rath's paper on vedic emedies for curses > and . > I have few questions in mind > > 1.during the operative period of curses does all the good yogas > negate its effect to some extent or they are inoperative? > > 2.I have noted that the curse is present in every kundali in some > way or other (in my collection of kundali)is this the effect of kali > yuga that person remains i the shackles of maya and will never get > liberated until and unless some divine blessing is bestowed. > > 3.i am unable to decide the remedy in the following horoscope for > curse > date of birth : 7-03-1974 place of birth : sasaram (bihar)(exact > palce > is bhabhua) time of birth : 2.00am > d-1 is asa follows ascendent-saggitarius with rahu in it ,venus in > secondhouse capricorn,sun mercury and jupiter in third house > aqarius,mars in sixth house taurus,sa and ketu in seventh house > gemini,moon in ninth house leo. > as per the guidelines by you moon is aspected by rahu saturn mars > and sun and curse is there since moon is lord of eight house curse > is of previous birth and due to curse of mother most malefic palnet > is rahu which is always retrograde so as per guidelines no remedy at > all. > > 4. you have guided that for retrograde palnets curse has to be > beared and there is no remedy at all .so in that case curses by rahu > and ketu have to be beared as they are always retrograde so no > remedy at all. > abhishek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 || Hare Rama Krisha || Dear Abhishek, Namaskar. Below is what I think. Best regards, Sourav ===================================================================== , "abhishek_ioc" <abhishek_ioc> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > i have read Shri Sanjay Rath's paper on vedic remedies for curses > and . > I have few questions in mind > > 1.during the operative period of curses does all the good yogas > negate its effect to some extent or they are inoperative? [sourav]: Both curse and good yogas are borne out of karma - bad and good respectively. Fructification of different karmas takes places at different periods of time in life. Some past karmas have such strong effects that they are operative throughout life or atleast the better part of the life. A good yoga is fructify in its own time, a bad yoga / curse fructify in its own time. Each yoga is independant in its timing. This we see from the dasas. Also, remember that the perspective of good and bad changes from time to time and person to person. 2.I have noted that the curse is present in every kundali in some way or other (in my collection of kundali)is this the effect of kali yuga that person remains i the shackles of maya and will never get liberated until and unless some divine blessing is bestowed. [sourav]: A divine blessing is a good karma, performed now or in the past. It is nothing by chance. What we call a remedy is also a good karma in the positive direction. > 3.i am unable to decide the remedy in the following horoscope for > curse > date of birth : 7-03-1974 place of birth : sasaram (bihar)(exact > palce > is bhabhua) time of birth : 2.00am > d-1 is asa follows ascendent-saggitarius with rahu in it ,venus in > secondhouse capricorn,sun mercury and jupiter in third house > aqarius,mars in sixth house taurus,sa and ketu in seventh house > gemini,moon in ninth house leo. > as per the guidelines by you moon is aspected by rahu saturn mars > and sun and curse is there since moon is lord of eight house curse > is of previous birth and due to curse of mother most malefic palnet > is rahu which is always retrograde so as per guidelines no remedy at all. [sourav]: Treat Sun as benefic as he is the 9th Lord. Su-Me gives dharmakarmadhipati yoga which is very good. and joined by Lagna lord strengthens that. Ju is 4th lord as well and all the planets are aspecting Mo this is the most benefic feature. However, the weak points are that Mo is 8L in the 9H and is aspected by three malefics Ra, Ma and Sa. All of which are connected to Lagna indicating that health or intelligence will suffer (Ju is in maranakarakasthana). I strongly believe that the only postive thing (you can call it remedy) is to pray to Devi Durganinashini Durga. > 4. you have guided that for retrograde palnets curse has to be > beared and there is no remedy at all .so in that case curses by rahu and ketu have to be beared as they are always retrograde so no remedy at all. [sourav]: We have to understand that Ra/Ke has a different nature than the rest of the grahas. Other grahas can be direct or retrograde indicating the associated desire or "immediacy" of their purposes (retrograde shows more of that). They show an apparently stronger effect of fructifying karma. Ra/Ke represents the basic polarities of mind (desire and giving up) and hence are different from other planets althought the desire to aquire or to give up also results in karma. Best regards, Sourav ==================================================================== abhishek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Dear Abhishek, When I looked at this chart, I wondered why this chart is looking familiar to me. Than I noticed its birth date is in close proximity to of "Parsu" another member on the list who was born on 10th March 1974. Anyway, I am in total agreement with Sourav as far as "Durgati naashni Mantra" recitation is concerned. Rahu is AK and in debilitation, in lagna and that to in last degrees, so intelligence need to be protected. Another important aspect in the chart to see the Parivartan involving lagna lord with mer involving 3rd/7th house and co-lord rahu with jup involving 3rd and lagna. Both are of importance. If you see curse on moon than also notice that moon is DK. See the signification of 3rd and 7th house Parivartan? See how these Parivartan will/is manifesting in the natives life? Pranaam Ajay , "Sourav Chowdhury" <souravc108> wrote: > || Hare Rama Krisha || > > Dear Abhishek, > Namaskar. Below is what I think. > Best regards, > > Sourav > ===================================================================== > , "abhishek_ioc" > <abhishek_ioc> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > i have read Shri Sanjay Rath's paper on vedic remedies for curses > > and . > > I have few questions in mind > > > > 1.during the operative period of curses does all the good yogas > > negate its effect to some extent or they are inoperative? > > [sourav]: Both curse and good yogas are borne out of karma - bad and > good respectively. Fructification of different karmas takes places > at different periods of time in life. Some past karmas have such > strong effects that they are operative throughout life or atleast > the better part of the life. A good yoga is fructify in its own > time, a bad yoga / curse fructify in its own time. Each yoga is > independant in its timing. This we see from the dasas. Also, > remember that the perspective of good and bad changes from time to > time and person to person. > > > 2.I have noted that the curse is present in every kundali in some > way or other (in my collection of kundali)is this the effect of > kali yuga that person remains i the shackles of maya and will never > get liberated until and unless some divine blessing is bestowed. > > [sourav]: A divine blessing is a good karma, performed now or in the > past. It is nothing by chance. What we call a remedy is also a good > karma in the positive direction. > > > > 3.i am unable to decide the remedy in the following horoscope for > > curse > > date of birth : 7-03-1974 place of birth : sasaram (bihar)(exact > > palce > > is bhabhua) time of birth : 2.00am > > d-1 is asa follows ascendent-saggitarius with rahu in it ,venus in > > secondhouse capricorn,sun mercury and jupiter in third house > > aqarius,mars in sixth house taurus,sa and ketu in seventh house > > gemini,moon in ninth house leo. > > as per the guidelines by you moon is aspected by rahu saturn mars > > and sun and curse is there since moon is lord of eight house curse > > is of previous birth and due to curse of mother most malefic palnet > > is rahu which is always retrograde so as per guidelines no remedy > at all. > > [sourav]: Treat Sun as benefic as he is the 9th Lord. Su-Me gives > dharmakarmadhipati yoga which is very good. and joined by Lagna lord > strengthens that. Ju is 4th lord as well and all the planets are > aspecting Mo this is the most benefic feature. However, the weak > points are that Mo is 8L in the 9H and is aspected by three malefics > Ra, Ma and Sa. All of which are connected to Lagna indicating that > health or intelligence will suffer (Ju is in maranakarakasthana). I > strongly believe that the only postive thing (you can call it > remedy) is to pray to Devi Durganinashini Durga. > > > > 4. you have guided that for retrograde palnets curse has to be > > beared and there is no remedy at all .so in that case curses by > rahu and ketu have to be beared as they are always retrograde so no > remedy at all. > > [sourav]: We have to understand that Ra/Ke has a different nature > than the rest of the grahas. Other grahas can be direct or > retrograde indicating the associated desire or "immediacy" of their > purposes (retrograde shows more of that). They show an apparently > stronger effect of fructifying karma. > Ra/Ke represents the basic polarities of mind (desire and giving up) > and hence are different from other planets althought the desire to > aquire or to give up also results in karma. > > Best regards, > > Sourav > ==================================================================== > > > abhishek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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