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Dear Vistiji,

 

Namaskar!

 

This is just to understand curses and their nature thru discussion. I

don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there have been

challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I now feel

confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

 

Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult aspects in the

horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the discussions on this

subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the 9th House from

Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo which does

not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of planets on the 2-8

axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away at 4

planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this signifies.

Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars and Rahu.

 

Shall be very grateful for your response!

 

Vinita

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Dear Vinita,

Namaskar

Since when

did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana have anything to do with badhaka or

curses? I did use one example where i was seeing the badhaka from the ninth

lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth lord), but nothing else.

Best

wishes,

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[] On Behalf Of vinita kumar

23 October 2005 17:40

 

[Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

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Dear Vistiji,

Namaskar!

This is just to understand curses and their nature

thru discussion. I

don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but

there have been

challenges in the past - maybe also the future -

which I now feel

confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult

aspects in the

horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the

discussions on this

subject I remember that someone had mentioned that

the 9th House from

Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me

is Virgo which does

not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of

planets on the 2-8

axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars

glaring away at 4

planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this

signifies.

Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of

Mars and Rahu.

Shall be very grateful for your response!

Vinita

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Dear Vistiji,

 

Namaskar!

 

Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

 

In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses through

the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or planet"

 

I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun, Mercury in 2nd

H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

 

Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of the

subject.

 

Regards,

 

Vinita

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana have

anything to do

> with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was seeing

the badhaka

> from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth lord),

but

> nothing else.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 23 October 2005 17:40

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> This is just to understand curses and their nature thru discussion.

I

> don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there have been

> challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I now feel

> confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

>

> Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult aspects in the

> horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the discussions on this

> subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the 9th House

from

> Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo which

does

> not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of planets on the 2-

8

> axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away at 4

> planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this signifies.

> Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars and Rahu.

>

> Shall be very grateful for your response!

>

> Vinita

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic

> </gads?

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qgA>

>

> Vedic

> </gads?

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>

> Free

> </gads?

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>

>

> Sjc

> </gads?

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> </gads?

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>

Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=_AQUTPx5Xwom5CFJw

PEOiQ>

_____

>

>

>

>

>

> * Visit your group "

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> *

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>

>

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Dear Vinita,

Namaskar

Yes it is a

curse, how are you overcoming it?

Best

wishes,

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[] On Behalf Of vinita kumar

24 October 2005 18:20

 

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

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Dear Vistiji,

Namaskar!

Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we

look for curses through

the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a

house or planet"

I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter,

Sun, Mercury in 2nd

H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

Shall be grateful to you for improving my

understanding of the

subject.

Regards,

Vinita

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Since when did the ninth house from the

badhaka sthana have

anything to do

> with badhaka or curses? I did use one example

where i was seeing

the badhaka

> from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to

the Guru (ninth lord),

but

> nothing else.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 23 October 2005 17:40

>

> [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> This is just to understand curses and their

nature thru discussion.

I

> don't feel particularly cursed or anything -

but there have been

> challenges in the past - maybe also the

future - which I now feel

> confident of facing with the grace of my

Guru.

>

> Its just that I wanted to understand the

difficult aspects in the

> horoscope for greater awareness. In one of

the discussions on this

> subject I remember that someone had mentioned

that the 9th House

from

> Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for

me is Virgo which

does

> not have any planet. But I do have a

clustering of planets on the 2-

8

> axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars

glaring away at 4

> planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what

this signifies.

> Specially since the next two MDs for me will

be of Mars and Rahu.

>

> Shall be very grateful for your response!

>

> Vinita

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do

one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic

> </gads?

t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Fr

>

ee+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=TFfY_0AVmaAw4qhDevl

qgA>

>

> Vedic

> </gads?

t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astro

>

logy&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=EC27o4pU4

fmYDwY

> rEv2UNA>

astrology

>

> Free

> </gads?

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>

astrology&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=5NzT

K1sUgW

> PYpsiOIYz9Qg> vedic astrology

>

>

> Sjc

> </gads?

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>

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c1XWsVsDlQ>

>

> Jyotish

> </gads?

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PEOiQ>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Vistiji,

 

Namaskar!

 

Many thanks for your response.

Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the curse.

How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

 

Regards,

Vinita

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 24 October 2005 18:20

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

>

> In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses through

> the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or planet"

>

> I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun, Mercury in

2nd

> H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

>

> Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of the

> subject.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >

> > Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana have

> anything to do

> > with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was seeing

> the badhaka

> > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth

lord),

> but

> > nothing else.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > 23 October 2005 17:40

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vistiji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > This is just to understand curses and their nature thru

discussion.

> I

> > don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there have been

> > challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I now

feel

> > confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

> >

> > Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult aspects in

the

> > horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the discussions on

this

> > subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the 9th House

> from

> > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo which

> does

> > not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of planets on

the 2-

> 8

> > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away at 4

> > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this signifies.

> > Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars and Rahu.

> >

> > Shall be very grateful for your response!

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic

> > </gads?

> t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Fr

> >

>

ee+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=TFfY_0AVmaAw4qhDev

l

> qgA>

> >

> > Vedic

> > </gads?

> t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astro

> >

>

logy&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=EC27o4pU

4

> fmYDwY

> > rEv2UNA> astrology

> >

> > Free

> > </gads?

> t=ms&k=Free+vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+

> >

>

astrology&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=5Nz

T

> K1sUgW

> > PYpsiOIYz9Qg> vedic astrology

> >

> >

> > Sjc

> > </gads?

> t=ms&k=Sjc&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Free

> > +vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=LK0R4qI0eEt-

> c1XWsVsDlQ>

> >

> > Jyotish

> > </gads?

> t=ms&k=Jyotish&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=

> >

>

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> PEOiQ>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > * Visit your group "

> > <> " on the web.

> >

> > *

> >

> > <?

> subject=Un>

> >

> > *

> > <> Terms of Service.

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> >

> > _____

> >

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic

> </gads?

t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Fr

>

ee+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=TFfY_0AVmaAw4qhDev

lqgA>

>

> Vedic

> </gads?

t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astro

>

logy&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=EC27o4pU

4fmYDwY

> rEv2UNA> astrology

>

> Free

> </gads?

t=ms&k=Free+vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+

>

astrology&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=5Nz

TK1sUgW

> PYpsiOIYz9Qg> vedic astrology

>

>

> Sjc

> </gads?

t=ms&k=Sjc&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Free

> +vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=LK0R4qI0eEt-

c1XWsVsDlQ>

>

> Jyotish

> </gads?

t=ms&k=Jyotish&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=

>

Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=_AQUTPx5Xwom5CFJ

wPEOiQ>

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>

>

>

>

>

> * Visit your group "

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Vinita,

Namaskar

Curses

which affect us on a personal level should have an association with the lagna

or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and atmakaraka is Venus, and is

not strongly associated with the curse on jupiter.

Instead

Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars, thus making the curse of

spouse (venus) must stronger in your chart.

To overcome

it you should worship your atmalinga, with a Shiva mantra. The specific form is

trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om Namah Shivaaya Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

Best

wishes,

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25 October 2005 13:54

 

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

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Dear Vistiji,

Namaskar!

Many thanks for your response.

Could u please enlighten further about the nature

of the curse.

How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

Regards,

Vinita

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 24 October 2005 18:20

>

> Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

>

> In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally

we look for curses through

> the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics

on a house or planet"

>

> I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at

Jupiter, Sun, Mercury in

2nd

> H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

>

> Shall be grateful to you for improving my

understanding of the

> subject.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >

> > Since when did the ninth house from the

badhaka sthana have

> anything to do

> > with badhaka or curses? I did use one

example where i was seeing

> the badhaka

> > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka

to the Guru (ninth

lord),

> but

> > nothing else.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > 23 October 2005 17:40

> >

> > [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vistiji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > This is just to understand curses and

their nature thru

discussion.

> I

> > don't feel particularly cursed or

anything - but there have been

> > challenges in the past - maybe also the

future - which I now

feel

> > confident of facing with the grace of my

Guru.

> >

> > Its just that I wanted to understand the

difficult aspects in

the

> > horoscope for greater awareness. In one

of the discussions on

this

> > subject I remember that someone had

mentioned that the 9th House

> from

> > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This

house for me is Virgo which

> does

> > not have any planet. But I do have a

clustering of planets on

the 2-

> 8

> > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and

Mars glaring away at 4

> > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering

what this signifies.

> > Specially since the next two MDs for me

will be of Mars and Rahu.

> >

> > Shall be very grateful for your

response!

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of

the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a

graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed

- do one free chart

> reading today

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>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do

one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Vistiji,

 

Pranam!

 

I thank you for your response. Just for a little more understanding

of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not cursed but Venus

is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.

 

You have written, "Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord)" Isn't

my 8th Lord Jupiter?

 

I do appreciate the point that the curse is related to the AK and

Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of two malefics on Venus which

is more important for the curse.

 

Though my knowledge of astrology is extremely limited, intuitively I

was under the impression that the curse had something to do with

Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi and Navamsa. Three

planets are in the star of Rahu too.

 

Could you throw some light on the nature of Rahu and MArs in my

chart, going by the initial statement, "Normally we look for curses

through the ....conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

planet"

 

Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th conjoined by a debilitated

(?) Rahu?

 

Thanks once again for your analysis and advice.

 

Regards,

 

Vinita

 

 

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Curses which affect us on a personal level should have an

association with

> the lagna or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and

atmakaraka is

> Venus, and is not strongly associated with the curse on jupiter.

>

> Instead Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars, thus

making the

> curse of spouse (venus) must stronger in your chart.

>

> To overcome it you should worship your atmalinga, with a Shiva

mantra. The

> specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om Namah Shivaaya

> Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 25 October 2005 13:54

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> Many thanks for your response.

> Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the curse.

> How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

>

> Regards,

> Vinita

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >

> > Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > 24 October 2005 18:20

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vistiji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

> >

> > In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses

through

> > the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

planet"

> >

> > I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun, Mercury in

> 2nd

> > H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

> >

> > Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of the

> > subject.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana have

> > anything to do

> > > with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was

seeing

> > the badhaka

> > > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth

> lord),

> > but

> > > nothing else.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > 23 October 2005 17:40

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vistiji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar!

> > >

> > > This is just to understand curses and their nature thru

> discussion.

> > I

> > > don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there have

been

> > > challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I now

> feel

> > > confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

> > >

> > > Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult aspects in

> the

> > > horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the discussions on

> this

> > > subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the 9th

House

> > from

> > > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo

which

> > does

> > > not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of planets on

> the 2-

> > 8

> > > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away at 4

> > > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this signifies.

> > > Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars and

Rahu.

> > >

> > > Shall be very grateful for your response!

> > >

> > > Vinita

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Vedic

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic

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~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic

> </gads?

t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Fr

>

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Vinita,

Namaskar

Reg.

eighth lord – that was a slip-up.

 

One may

have many curses in the chart, but only one MAIN

curse. It is the main curse, which is deciding the main experiences, whilst the

sub-curses are just adding to the intensity of the main curse. I.e. you earned

a curse from spouse, by doing something terribly wrong to your spouse in the

past life, and the guru or brahmin was also affected by this and this has

become an additional curse.

 

To learn

more about curses, i’m sure Rafal, Nitin, Samir or the other

well-informed students can help you out.

Best

wishes,

***

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[] On Behalf Of vinita kumar

26 October 2005 14:34

 

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

12.0pt">

Dear Vistiji,

Pranam!

I thank you for your response. Just for a little

more understanding

of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not

cursed but Venus

is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.

You have written, "Venus is aspected by

Saturn (eighth lord)" Isn't

my 8th Lord Jupiter?

I do appreciate the point that the curse is

related to the AK and

Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of two

malefics on Venus which

is more important for the curse.

Though my knowledge of astrology is extremely

limited, intuitively I

was under the impression that the curse had

something to do with

Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi and

Navamsa. Three

planets are in the star of Rahu too.

Could you throw some light on the nature of Rahu

and MArs in my

chart, going by the initial statement,

"Normally we look for curses

through the ....conjunction of 2 or more malefics

on a house or

planet"

Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th conjoined

by a debilitated

(?) Rahu?

Thanks once again for your analysis and advice.

Regards,

Vinita

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Curses which affect us on a personal level

should have an

association with

> the lagna or the atmakaraka. In your cases

the lagnesh and

atmakaraka is

> Venus, and is not strongly associated with

the curse on jupiter.

>

> Instead Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth

lord) and Mars, thus

making the

> curse of spouse (venus) must stronger in your

chart.

>

> To overcome it you should worship your

atmalinga, with a Shiva

mantra. The

> specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra

is Om Namah Shivaaya

> Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 25 October 2005 13:54

>

> Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> Many thanks for your response.

> Could u please enlighten further about the

nature of the curse.

> How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

>

> Regards,

> Vinita

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >

> > Yes it is a curse, how are you

overcoming it?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > 24 October 2005 18:20

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vistiji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > Thank you for clearing the

misunderstanding.

> >

> > In an earlier post you wrote,

"Normally we look for curses

through

> > the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more

malefics on a house or

planet"

> >

> > I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at

Jupiter, Sun, Mercury in

> 2nd

> > H. Does this constitute some kind of a

curse.

> >

> > Shall be grateful to you for improving

my understanding of the

> > subject.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Since when did the ninth house from

the badhaka sthana have

> > anything to do

> > > with badhaka or curses? I did use

one example where i was

seeing

> > the badhaka

> > > from the ninth lord, to see the

badhaka to the Guru (ninth

> lord),

> > but

> > > nothing else.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

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> > > 23 October 2005 17:40

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vistiji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar!

> > >

> > > This is just to understand curses

and their nature thru

> discussion.

> > I

> > > don't feel particularly cursed or

anything - but there have

been

> > > challenges in the past - maybe also

the future - which I now

> feel

> > > confident of facing with the grace

of my Guru.

> > >

> > > Its just that I wanted to

understand the difficult aspects in

> the

> > > horoscope for greater awareness. In

one of the discussions on

> this

> > > subject I remember that someone had

mentioned that the 9th

House

> > from

> > > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This

house for me is Virgo

which

> > does

> > > not have any planet. But I do have

a clustering of planets on

> the 2-

> > 8

> > > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu

and Mars glaring away at 4

> > > planets in the 2nd house. Was

wondering what this signifies.

> > > Specially since the next two MDs

for me will be of Mars and

Rahu.

> > >

> > > Shall be very grateful for your

response!

> > >

> > > Vinita

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the

decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the

Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian -

remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a

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> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and

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Dear Vinita,

 

In curses we see at least two malefics (Sa,Ma,Ra) aspecting most benefic planet.

The benefic planet will indicate curser (Jupiter - learned person, Venus -

lover) etc. The aspect must be Graha Dristi as desire must be involved. To see

when it will manifest see the dasa of Malefics in Moola Dasa.

 

Rahu can give curse when posited in Jupiter Signs.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

-

Visti Larsen

 

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:34 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Vinita, Namaskar

Reg. eighth lord – that was a slip-up.

 

One may have many curses in the chart, but only one MAIN curse. It is the main

curse, which is deciding the main experiences, whilst the sub-curses are just

adding to the intensity of the main curse. I.e. you earned a curse from spouse,

by doing something terribly wrong to your spouse in the past life, and the guru

or brahmin was also affected by this and this has become an additional curse.

 

To learn more about curses, i’m sure Rafal, Nitin, Samir or the other

well-informed students can help you out.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

[] On

Behalf Of vinita kumar26 October 2005 14:34To:

Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

 

Dear Vistiji,Pranam!I thank you for your response. Just for a little more

understanding of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not cursed but

Venus is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.You have written, "Venus is aspected

by Saturn (eighth lord)" Isn't my 8th Lord Jupiter? I do appreciate the point

that the curse is related to the AK and Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of

two malefics on Venus which is more important for the curse.Though my knowledge

of astrology is extremely limited, intuitively I was under the impression that

the curse had something to do with Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi

and Navamsa. Three planets are in the star of Rahu too.Could you throw some

light on the nature of Rahu and MArs in my chart, going by the initial

statement, "Normally we look for curses through the ....conjunction of 2 or

more malefics on a house or planet"Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th

conjoined by a debilitated (?) Rahu?Thanks once again for your analysis and

advice.Regards,Vinita, "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...> wrote:>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar> > Curses

which affect us on a personal level should have an association with> the lagna

or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and atmakaraka is> Venus, and is

not strongly associated with the curse on jupiter.> > Instead Venus is aspected

by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars, thus making the> curse of spouse (venus) must

stronger in your chart.> > To overcome it you should worship your atmalinga,

with a Shiva mantra. The> specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om

Namah Shivaaya> Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti

Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***>

> _____ > >

[] On> Behalf Of vinita kumar> 25

October 2005 13:54> > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Understanding Curses> > > > Dear Vistiji,> > Namaskar!> > Many thanks

for your response.> Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the

curse.> How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.> > Regards,> Vinita> > --- In

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote:> >> > ||Hare

Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar> > > > Yes it is a curse, how are you

overcoming it?> > > > Best wishes,> > > > ***> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > For

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http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > http://astrovisti.com> >

> > ***> > > > _____ > > > > >

[] On> > Behalf Of vinita kumar> > 24

October 2005 18:20> > > > Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses> > > > > > > > Dear Vistiji,> > > >

Namaskar!> > > > Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.> > > > In an

earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses through > > the

aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or planet"> > > > I have

Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun, Mercury in > 2nd > > H. Does this

constitute some kind of a curse.> > > > Shall be grateful to you for improving

my understanding of the > > subject.> > > > Regards,> > > > Vinita> > > > >

||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar> > > > > > Since when did

the ninth house from the badhaka sthana have > > anything to do> > > with

badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was seeing > > the badhaka> >

> from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth > lord), > > but>

> > nothing else.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > ***> > > > > > Visti

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Behalf Of vinita kumar> > > 23 October 2005 17:40> > > To:

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding

Curses> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vistiji,> > > > > > Namaskar!> > > > > >

This is just to understand curses and their nature thru > discussion. > > I > >

> don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there have been > > >

challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I now > feel > > >

confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.> > > > > > Its just that I

wanted to understand the difficult aspects in > the > > > horoscope for greater

awareness. In one of the discussions on > this > > > subject I remember that

someone had mentioned that the 9th House > > from > > > Badhak sthan signifies

curses. This house for me is Virgo which > > does > > > not have any planet.

But I do have a clustering of planets on > the 2-> > 8 > > > axis. There are

the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away at 4 > > > planets in the 2nd house.

Was wondering what this signifies. > > > Specially since the next two MDs for

me will be of Mars and Rahu.> > > > > > Shall be very grateful for your

response!> > > > > > Vinita> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~>

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > >

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||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

 

Dear Vinita Ji and List Members, Namaskaar.

 

A freely available resource for understanding Moola Dasha is available at:

 

http://www.srath.com/lectures/moola_dasa.htm

 

The dasha ha sbeen applied in better understandig the curse in Lord

Sri Rama's chart.

 

For curses, 2 or more krura grahas (such as Rahu, Shani and Mangal)

should have drishti on another graha. Rahu would represent shock;

Shani -- deep sorrow and Mangal -- anger.

 

It would help if you (or other list members) posted full birth details

for a more comprehensive analyis.

 

Best wishes,

Nitin.

 

|| Namah Shivaaya ||

 

 

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:

>

> Dear Vinita,

>

> In curses we see at least two malefics (Sa,Ma,Ra) aspecting most

benefic planet. The benefic planet will indicate curser (Jupiter -

learned person, Venus - lover) etc. The aspect must be Graha Dristi as

desire must be involved. To see when it will manifest see the dasa of

Malefics in Moola Dasa.

>

> Rahu can give curse when posited in Jupiter Signs.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

> -

> Visti Larsen

>

> Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:34 PM

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Reg. eighth lord - that was a slip-up.

>

>

>

> One may have many curses in the chart, but only one MAIN curse. It

is the main curse, which is deciding the main experiences, whilst the

sub-curses are just adding to the intensity of the main curse. I.e.

you earned a curse from spouse, by doing something terribly wrong to

your spouse in the past life, and the guru or brahmin was also

affected by this and this has become an additional curse.

>

>

>

> To learn more about curses, i'm sure Rafal, Nitin, Samir or the

other well-informed students can help you out.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

>

>

 

>

>

[] On Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 26 October 2005 14:34

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Pranam!

>

> I thank you for your response. Just for a little more understanding

> of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not cursed but Venus

> is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.

>

> You have written, "Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord)" Isn't

> my 8th Lord Jupiter?

>

> I do appreciate the point that the curse is related to the AK and

> Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of two malefics on Venus which

> is more important for the curse.

>

> Though my knowledge of astrology is extremely limited, intuitively I

> was under the impression that the curse had something to do with

> Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi and Navamsa. Three

> planets are in the star of Rahu too.

>

> Could you throw some light on the nature of Rahu and MArs in my

> chart, going by the initial statement, "Normally we look for curses

> through the ....conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> planet"

>

> Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th conjoined by a debilitated

> (?) Rahu?

>

> Thanks once again for your analysis and advice.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

>

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >

> > Curses which affect us on a personal level should have an

> association with

> > the lagna or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and

> atmakaraka is

> > Venus, and is not strongly associated with the curse on jupiter.

> >

> > Instead Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars, thus

> making the

> > curse of spouse (venus) must stronger in your chart.

> >

> > To overcome it you should worship your atmalinga, with a Shiva

> mantra. The

> > specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om Namah Shivaaya

> > Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > 25 October 2005 13:54

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vistiji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > Many thanks for your response.

> > Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the curse.

> > How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vinita

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > 24 October 2005 18:20

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vistiji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar!

> > >

> > > Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

> > >

> > > In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses

> through

> > > the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> planet"

> > >

> > > I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun, Mercury in

> > 2nd

> > > H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

> > >

> > > Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of the

> > > subject.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Vinita

> > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana have

> > > anything to do

> > > > with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was

> seeing

> > > the badhaka

> > > > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth

> > lord),

> > > but

> > > > nothing else.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > > 23 October 2005 17:40

> > > >

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vistiji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar!

> > > >

> > > > This is just to understand curses and their nature thru

> > discussion.

> > > I

> > > > don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there have

> been

> > > > challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I now

> > feel

> > > > confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

> > > >

> > > > Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult aspects in

> > the

> > > > horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the discussions on

> > this

> > > > subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the 9th

> House

> > > from

> > > > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo

> which

> > > does

> > > > not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of planets on

> > the 2-

> > > 8

> > > > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away at 4

> > > > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this signifies.

> > > > Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars and

> Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > Shall be very grateful for your response!

> > > >

> > > > Vinita

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > > reading today

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Dear Vistiji,

 

Namaskar!

 

I must thank you for your time to explain the main curse and other

curses.

 

As I told u in my initial message, I do not feel particularly cursed

now that I have a guru.

 

My endeavour to understand the chart is basically as part of an

inner journey to understand the self. Sometimes we even get inspired

in our actions to direct our life in particular ways after we

understand the shortfalls and strenghts which may be there from past

lives.

 

Many thanks once again for your time and efforts.

 

Regards,

 

Vinita

 

P.S. If others on the forum would like to elaborate on the curses in

the chart, they are welcome!

 

But I cannot resist asking one more question, Vistiji - if curses

are from past lives do they not find reflection in D-60 as well? If

so, how to connect the readings of the rasi chart with D-60? Maybe I

am making one big jump to understand things without going through

the smaller steps...........

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Reg. eighth lord - that was a slip-up.

>

>

>

> One may have many curses in the chart, but only one MAIN curse. It

is the

> main curse, which is deciding the main experiences, whilst the sub-

curses

> are just adding to the intensity of the main curse. I.e. you

earned a curse

> from spouse, by doing something terribly wrong to your spouse in

the past

> life, and the guru or brahmin was also affected by this and this

has become

> an additional curse.

>

>

>

> To learn more about curses, i'm sure Rafal, Nitin, Samir or the

other

> well-informed students can help you out.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 26 October 2005 14:34

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Pranam!

>

> I thank you for your response. Just for a little more

understanding

> of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not cursed but Venus

> is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.

>

> You have written, "Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord)"

Isn't

> my 8th Lord Jupiter?

>

> I do appreciate the point that the curse is related to the AK and

> Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of two malefics on Venus

which

> is more important for the curse.

>

> Though my knowledge of astrology is extremely limited, intuitively

I

> was under the impression that the curse had something to do with

> Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi and Navamsa. Three

> planets are in the star of Rahu too.

>

> Could you throw some light on the nature of Rahu and MArs in my

> chart, going by the initial statement, "Normally we look for

curses

> through the ....conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> planet"

>

> Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th conjoined by a

debilitated

> (?) Rahu?

>

> Thanks once again for your analysis and advice.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

>

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >

> > Curses which affect us on a personal level should have an

> association with

> > the lagna or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and

> atmakaraka is

> > Venus, and is not strongly associated with the curse on jupiter.

> >

> > Instead Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars, thus

> making the

> > curse of spouse (venus) must stronger in your chart.

> >

> > To overcome it you should worship your atmalinga, with a Shiva

> mantra. The

> > specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om Namah

Shivaaya

> > Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > 25 October 2005 13:54

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vistiji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > Many thanks for your response.

> > Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the curse.

> > How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vinita

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > 24 October 2005 18:20

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vistiji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar!

> > >

> > > Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

> > >

> > > In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses

> through

> > > the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> planet"

> > >

> > > I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun, Mercury

in

> > 2nd

> > > H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

> > >

> > > Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of the

> > > subject.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Vinita

> > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana have

> > > anything to do

> > > > with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was

> seeing

> > > the badhaka

> > > > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth

> > lord),

> > > but

> > > > nothing else.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > > 23 October 2005 17:40

> > > >

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vistiji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar!

> > > >

> > > > This is just to understand curses and their nature thru

> > discussion.

> > > I

> > > > don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there have

> been

> > > > challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I now

> > feel

> > > > confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

> > > >

> > > > Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult aspects

in

> > the

> > > > horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the discussions

on

> > this

> > > > subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the 9th

> House

> > > from

> > > > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo

> which

> > > does

> > > > not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of planets

on

> > the 2-

> > > 8

> > > > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away at

4

> > > > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this signifies.

> > > > Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars and

> Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > Shall be very grateful for your response!

> > > >

> > > > Vinita

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > > reading today

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

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> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

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> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

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~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic

> </gads?

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Dear Rafal Ji,

 

Namaskar!

 

Thank you for your response. It is interesting to note that Rahu in

the sign of Jupiter can give a curse. What would be the nature of

this curse? You have written that "The aspect must be Graha Dristi

as desire must be involved". Jupiter (the curser) has a second house

aspect on Rahu. Rahu is a planet of desires. But what kind of

desires can it have in the 8th House in a sign of debilitation (?)

and sign of Jupiter is something I have to fathom with your help.

 

"To see when it will manifest see the dasa of Malefics in Moola

Dasa." Checked up the Moola dasha and found that Rahu MD got over in

July 2005. So is the curse of Jupiter over?

 

The next 2 MDs are of benefics. So can one presume that the effect

of curses will not manifest during these periods? But isn't Venus a

bigger curser in my case?

 

I would like to thank you once again for your help and would look

forward to the answers.

 

Regards,

 

Vinita

 

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:

>

> Dear Vinita,

>

> In curses we see at least two malefics (Sa,Ma,Ra) aspecting most

benefic planet. The benefic planet will indicate curser (Jupiter -

learned person, Venus - lover) etc. The aspect must be Graha Dristi

as desire must be involved. To see when it will manifest see the

dasa of Malefics in Moola Dasa.

>

> Rahu can give curse when posited in Jupiter Signs.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

> -

> Visti Larsen

>

> Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:34 PM

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Reg. eighth lord - that was a slip-up.

>

>

>

> One may have many curses in the chart, but only one MAIN curse.

It is the main curse, which is deciding the main experiences, whilst

the sub-curses are just adding to the intensity of the main curse.

I.e. you earned a curse from spouse, by doing something terribly

wrong to your spouse in the past life, and the guru or brahmin was

also affected by this and this has become an additional curse.

>

>

>

> To learn more about curses, i'm sure Rafal, Nitin, Samir or the

other well-informed students can help you out.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

>

> -

-----------

>

>

[] On Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 26 October 2005 14:34

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Pranam!

>

> I thank you for your response. Just for a little more

understanding

> of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not cursed but

Venus

> is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.

>

> You have written, "Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord)"

Isn't

> my 8th Lord Jupiter?

>

> I do appreciate the point that the curse is related to the AK

and

> Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of two malefics on Venus

which

> is more important for the curse.

>

> Though my knowledge of astrology is extremely limited,

intuitively I

> was under the impression that the curse had something to do with

> Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi and Navamsa. Three

> planets are in the star of Rahu too.

>

> Could you throw some light on the nature of Rahu and MArs in my

> chart, going by the initial statement, "Normally we look for

curses

> through the ....conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> planet"

>

> Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th conjoined by a

debilitated

> (?) Rahu?

>

> Thanks once again for your analysis and advice.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

>

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >

> > Curses which affect us on a personal level should have an

> association with

> > the lagna or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and

> atmakaraka is

> > Venus, and is not strongly associated with the curse on

jupiter.

> >

> > Instead Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars,

thus

> making the

> > curse of spouse (venus) must stronger in your chart.

> >

> > To overcome it you should worship your atmalinga, with a Shiva

> mantra. The

> > specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om Namah

Shivaaya

> > Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > 25 October 2005 13:54

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vistiji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > Many thanks for your response.

> > Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the curse.

> > How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vinita

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > 24 October 2005 18:20

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vistiji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar!

> > >

> > > Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

> > >

> > > In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses

> through

> > > the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> planet"

> > >

> > > I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun, Mercury

in

> > 2nd

> > > H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

> > >

> > > Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of

the

> > > subject.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Vinita

> > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana

have

> > > anything to do

> > > > with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was

> seeing

> > > the badhaka

> > > > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth

> > lord),

> > > but

> > > > nothing else.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > > 23 October 2005 17:40

> > > >

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vistiji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar!

> > > >

> > > > This is just to understand curses and their nature thru

> > discussion.

> > > I

> > > > don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there

have

> been

> > > > challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I

now

> > feel

> > > > confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

> > > >

> > > > Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult aspects

in

> > the

> > > > horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the discussions

on

> > this

> > > > subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the 9th

> House

> > > from

> > > > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo

> which

> > > does

> > > > not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of planets

on

> > the 2-

> > > 8

> > > > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away

at 4

> > > > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this

signifies.

> > > > Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars

and

> Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > Shall be very grateful for your response!

> > > >

> > > > Vinita

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

who

> said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart

> > > reading today

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic

> > > > </gads?

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> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic

> > </gads?

> t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Fr

> >

>

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>

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

> -

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Respected Guru Rafalji & Vistiji,

 

In my chart, Moon is conjuct Ketu and getting aspect(grah drishti)

from all three Sa, Ma, Ra. Does that mean curse from mother? What

can be done to alleviate it? What areas of life are affected by

this? Does this affect mind also(as moon also represents mind)?

My Details are

DOB:16-SEP-1971

TOB: 04:15 AM

POB: 75E43,29N10

 

Regards,

Anita

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:

>

> Dear Vinita,

>

> In curses we see at least two malefics (Sa,Ma,Ra) aspecting most

benefic planet. The benefic planet will indicate curser (Jupiter -

learned person, Venus - lover) etc. The aspect must be Graha Dristi

as desire must be involved. To see when it will manifest see the

dasa of Malefics in Moola Dasa.

>

> Rahu can give curse when posited in Jupiter Signs.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

> -

> Visti Larsen

>

> Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:34 PM

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>

> Reg. eighth lord - that was a slip-up.

>

>

>

> One may have many curses in the chart, but only one MAIN curse.

It is the main curse, which is deciding the main experiences, whilst

the sub-curses are just adding to the intensity of the main curse.

I.e. you earned a curse from spouse, by doing something terribly

wrong to your spouse in the past life, and the guru or brahmin was

also affected by this and this has become an additional curse.

>

>

>

> To learn more about curses, i'm sure Rafal, Nitin, Samir or the

other well-informed students can help you out.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

>

> -

-----------

>

>

[] On Behalf Of vinita kumar

> 26 October 2005 14:34

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> Pranam!

>

> I thank you for your response. Just for a little more

understanding

> of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not cursed but

Venus

> is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.

>

> You have written, "Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord)"

Isn't

> my 8th Lord Jupiter?

>

> I do appreciate the point that the curse is related to the AK

and

> Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of two malefics on Venus

which

> is more important for the curse.

>

> Though my knowledge of astrology is extremely limited,

intuitively I

> was under the impression that the curse had something to do with

> Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi and Navamsa. Three

> planets are in the star of Rahu too.

>

> Could you throw some light on the nature of Rahu and MArs in my

> chart, going by the initial statement, "Normally we look for

curses

> through the ....conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> planet"

>

> Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th conjoined by a

debilitated

> (?) Rahu?

>

> Thanks once again for your analysis and advice.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

>

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >

> > Curses which affect us on a personal level should have an

> association with

> > the lagna or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and

> atmakaraka is

> > Venus, and is not strongly associated with the curse on

jupiter.

> >

> > Instead Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars,

thus

> making the

> > curse of spouse (venus) must stronger in your chart.

> >

> > To overcome it you should worship your atmalinga, with a Shiva

> mantra. The

> > specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om Namah

Shivaaya

> > Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > 25 October 2005 13:54

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vistiji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > Many thanks for your response.

> > Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the curse.

> > How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vinita

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > 24 October 2005 18:20

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vistiji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar!

> > >

> > > Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

> > >

> > > In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses

> through

> > > the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> planet"

> > >

> > > I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun, Mercury

in

> > 2nd

> > > H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

> > >

> > > Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of

the

> > > subject.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Vinita

> > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana

have

> > > anything to do

> > > > with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was

> seeing

> > > the badhaka

> > > > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth

> > lord),

> > > but

> > > > nothing else.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > > 23 October 2005 17:40

> > > >

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vistiji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar!

> > > >

> > > > This is just to understand curses and their nature thru

> > discussion.

> > > I

> > > > don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there

have

> been

> > > > challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I

now

> > feel

> > > > confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

> > > >

> > > > Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult aspects

in

> > the

> > > > horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the discussions

on

> > this

> > > > subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the 9th

> House

> > > from

> > > > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo

> which

> > > does

> > > > not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of planets

on

> > the 2-

> > > 8

> > > > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away

at 4

> > > > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this

signifies.

> > > > Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars

and

> Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > Shall be very grateful for your response!

> > > >

> > > > Vinita

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

who

> said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart

> > > reading today

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic

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> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > > Vedic

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> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

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> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

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Dear Nitin,

 

Namaskar!

 

I did give the birth particulars when I posted the initial queries.

(DOB: 3rd July, 1954; 2.43 a.m.; Lucknow). Once long back u had

mentioned that the ninth house from badhaka sthan indicates the curse

and its nature and I kept puzzling over how Mercury indicated a curse

for me. Curse of Saturn, Mars and Rahu by Venus and Jupiter fits the

pattern better.

 

I am basically interested in identifying the difficult areas in my

chart since I believe that knowledge about ourselves helps to

understand the impulses that drive us. This is important if we want

to consciously change ourselves.

 

I shall be grateful for your views on the subject.

 

Warm regards,

 

Vinita

 

 

, "Nitin" <astronitin> wrote:

>

> ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

>

> Dear Vinita Ji and List Members, Namaskaar.

>

> A freely available resource for understanding Moola Dasha is

available at:

>

> http://www.srath.com/lectures/moola_dasa.htm

>

> The dasha ha sbeen applied in better understandig the curse in Lord

> Sri Rama's chart.

>

> For curses, 2 or more krura grahas (such as Rahu, Shani and Mangal)

> should have drishti on another graha. Rahu would represent shock;

> Shani -- deep sorrow and Mangal -- anger.

>

> It would help if you (or other list members) posted full birth

details

> for a more comprehensive analyis.

>

> Best wishes,

> Nitin.

>

> || Namah Shivaaya ||

>

>

>

> , "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinita,

> >

> > In curses we see at least two malefics (Sa,Ma,Ra) aspecting most

> benefic planet. The benefic planet will indicate curser (Jupiter -

> learned person, Venus - lover) etc. The aspect must be Graha Dristi

as

> desire must be involved. To see when it will manifest see the dasa

of

> Malefics in Moola Dasa.

> >

> > Rahu can give curse when posited in Jupiter Signs.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> >

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:34 PM

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >

> > Reg. eighth lord - that was a slip-up.

> >

> >

> >

> > One may have many curses in the chart, but only one MAIN curse.

It

> is the main curse, which is deciding the main experiences, whilst

the

> sub-curses are just adding to the intensity of the main curse. I.e.

> you earned a curse from spouse, by doing something terribly wrong to

> your spouse in the past life, and the guru or brahmin was also

> affected by this and this has become an additional curse.

> >

> >

> >

> > To learn more about curses, i'm sure Rafal, Nitin, Samir or the

> other well-informed students can help you out.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> >

> >

> --

----------

> >

> >

> [] On Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > 26 October 2005 14:34

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Vistiji,

> >

> > Pranam!

> >

> > I thank you for your response. Just for a little more

understanding

> > of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not cursed but

Venus

> > is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.

> >

> > You have written, "Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord)"

Isn't

> > my 8th Lord Jupiter?

> >

> > I do appreciate the point that the curse is related to the AK

and

> > Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of two malefics on Venus

which

> > is more important for the curse.

> >

> > Though my knowledge of astrology is extremely limited,

intuitively I

> > was under the impression that the curse had something to do

with

> > Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi and Navamsa. Three

> > planets are in the star of Rahu too.

> >

> > Could you throw some light on the nature of Rahu and MArs in my

> > chart, going by the initial statement, "Normally we look for

curses

> > through the ....conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> > planet"

> >

> > Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th conjoined by a

debilitated

> > (?) Rahu?

> >

> > Thanks once again for your analysis and advice.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Curses which affect us on a personal level should have an

> > association with

> > > the lagna or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and

> > atmakaraka is

> > > Venus, and is not strongly associated with the curse on

jupiter.

> > >

> > > Instead Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars,

thus

> > making the

> > > curse of spouse (venus) must stronger in your chart.

> > >

> > > To overcome it you should worship your atmalinga, with a

Shiva

> > mantra. The

> > > specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om Namah

Shivaaya

> > > Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > 25 October 2005 13:54

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vistiji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar!

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your response.

> > > Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the

curse.

> > > How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Vinita

> > >

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > > 24 October 2005 18:20

> > > >

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vistiji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar!

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

> > > >

> > > > In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses

> > through

> > > > the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> > planet"

> > > >

> > > > I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun,

Mercury in

> > > 2nd

> > > > H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

> > > >

> > > > Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of

the

> > > > subject.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Vinita

> > > >

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana

have

> > > > anything to do

> > > > > with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was

> > seeing

> > > > the badhaka

> > > > > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru

(ninth

> > > lord),

> > > > but

> > > > > nothing else.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > >

> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > [] On

> > > > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> > > > > 23 October 2005 17:40

> > > > >

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vistiji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar!

> > > > >

> > > > > This is just to understand curses and their nature thru

> > > discussion.

> > > > I

> > > > > don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there

have

> > been

> > > > > challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I

now

> > > feel

> > > > > confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

> > > > >

> > > > > Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult

aspects in

> > > the

> > > > > horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the

discussions on

> > > this

> > > > > subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the

9th

> > House

> > > > from

> > > > > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo

> > which

> > > > does

> > > > > not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of

planets on

> > > the 2-

> > > > 8

> > > > > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away

at 4

> > > > > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this

signifies.

> > > > > Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars

and

> > Rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shall be very grateful for your response!

> > > > >

> > > > > Vinita

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram.

> > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> > Krishna'

> > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

who

> > said

> > > > that the

> > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart

> > > > reading today

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||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

 

Dear Vinita Ji,Namaskaar.

 

I apologize if I missed the part of your birth details in a prior posting.

 

I also do not recall mentioning 9th House from a Baadhaka Sthaana specifically

indicating a curse and its nature. If you can send me the e-mail referencing

this, I may be able to check how I was attempting an analysis on the list?

The 9th House is the Baadhaka Sthaana for a fixed sign lagna (this you already

know). 2 links I usually reference for more on the subject are:

 

http://www.srath.com/lectures/badhak01.htm

http://www.srath.com/mantra/ganesa3.htm

 

Visti has also clarified more on the above and I believe a mantra has been

imparted for you!

 

With regard to Lagnesh Shukracharya (Venus) in your chart, though aspected by

krura grahas Shani and Rahu, is not the main curse in the chart. The reason you

may feel suffering more so in this area is because it is also the Chara

AtmaKaraka. The natural age(s) for Venus are:

 

Ve 6 25,26 6,52

…these are some of the years you will most likely meet challenges relating to

harmony. The houses ruled by the graha under the affliction will reveal more the

source and its position more of where it manifests.

 

[i am still working on better understanding why these numbers and Visti has

hinted on examining Chapter 9 BPHS for more insights.]

 

With the 8th House – its lord and significator are all involved. The PitriKaraka

Brihaspati (Jupiter) will reveal challenges coming from or to the elders. Some

years where the challenges came or could come are:

Ju 3 30,34 24,56

 

If your Shastyamsa is correct (D60), you may have seen unfulfilled expectations

or shock per Rahu’s Moola Dasha (Maha Dasha is a general trend) and felt closer

to spirituality under Rahu / Venus.

 

I hope some of this helps. May the Gurus continue to guide us.

Best wishes,

 

Nitin.

 

|| Namah Shivaaya ||

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

"vinita kumar"

 

CC:

Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:50:09 -0000

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

Dear Nitin,

 

Namaskar!

 

I did give the birth particulars when I posted the initial queries.

(DOB: 3rd July, 1954; 2.43 a.m.; Lucknow). Once long back u had

mentioned that the ninth house from badhaka sthan indicates the curse

and its nature and I kept puzzling over how Mercury indicated a curse

for me. Curse of Saturn, Mars and Rahu by Venus and Jupiter fits the

pattern better.

 

I am basically interested in identifying the difficult areas in my

chart since I believe that knowledge about ourselves helps to

understand the impulses that drive us. This is important if we want

to consciously change ourselves.

 

I shall be grateful for your views on the subject.

 

Warm regards,

 

Vinita

 

>>>>>..

Untitled

 

Natal Chart

 

July 3, 1954

Time: 2:43:00 am

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 80 E 55' 00", 26 N 51' 00"

Lucknow, India

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

Lunar Yr-Mo: Jaya - Ashadha

Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (48.53% left)

Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (94.64% left)

Yoga: Harshana (Su) (15.59% left)

Karana: Garija (Ju) (97.07% left)

Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Vi)

Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Aq)

Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Saturn)

 

Sunrise: 5:20:12 am (July 2)

Sunset: 6:59:58 pm (July 2)

Janma Ghatis: 53.4502

 

Ayanamsa: 23-13-34.32

Sidereal Time: 21:18:09

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

 

Lagna 9 Ta 23' 53.66" Krit 4 Ta Pi

Sun - MK 17 Ge 12' 21.04" Ardr 4 Ge Pi

Moon - BK 17 Cn 22' 54.49" Asre 1 Cn Sg

Mars ® - DK 6 Sg 53' 55.88" Mool 3 Sg Ge

Mercury ® - AmK 22 Ge 22' 49.90" Puna 1 Ge Ar

Jupiter - PiK 15 Ge 38' 48.02" Ardr 3 Ge Aq

Venus - AK 24 Cn 37' 42.06" Asre 3 Cn Aq

Saturn ® - PK 9 Li 25' 41.39" Swat 1 Li Sg

Rahu - GK 21 Sg 50' 30.72" PSha 3 Sg Li

Ketu 21 Ge 50' 30.72" Puna 1 Ge Ar

Maandi 5 Ar 25' 02.16" Aswi 2 Ar Ta

Gulika 22 Pi 22' 40.72" Reva 2 Pi Cp

 

 

 

>>>>>

 

 

 

 

 

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May I also take part in an analysis of your chart.To start with let me give some

predictions for verification of your chart.?

You have two elder coborns due to combination of Jupiter and Mercury.1959 to

1960 was a good period for your mother and her people.Your mother has three or

two elder coborns.and younger coborns also.?5-8-1993 to 3-6-1996--it was a fine

period at home, financially, some learning,good for children and what not.?

Possibly you have one short lived younger sister .or that she continues to

live.This is because Venus is with Moon.1981 to 1983 was a good period for your

younger coborn.1980 to 1982 was bad for financial matters or your father etc.

This is because Sun is the lord of the second from Moon sign.

Please reply,

Regards,

jagannathan.

 

On 10/27/05, Nitin K <sjc (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote:

||| Hare Rama Krishna |||Dear Vinita Ji,Namaskaar.I apologize if I missed the

part of your birth details in a prior posting.

I also do not recall mentioning 9th House from a Baadhaka Sthaana specifically

indicating a curse and its nature. If you can send me the e-mail referencing

this, I may be able to check how I was attempting an analysis on the list?

The 9th House is the Baadhaka Sthaana for a fixed sign lagna (this you already

know). 2 links I usually reference for more on the subject

are:http://www.srath.com/lectures/badhak01.htm

http://www.srath.com/mantra/ganesa3.htmVisti has also clarified more on the

above and I believe a mantra has been imparted for you!With regard to Lagnesh

Shukracharya (Venus) in your chart, though aspected by krura grahas Shani and

Rahu, is not the main curse in the chart. The reason you may feel suffering

more so in this area is because it is also the Chara AtmaKaraka. The natural

age(s) for Venus are:

Ve 6 25,26 6,52…these are some of the years you will most likely meet challenges

relating to harmony. The houses ruled by the graha under the affliction will

reveal more the source and its position more of where it manifests.

[i am still working on better understanding why these numbers and Visti has

hinted on examining Chapter 9 BPHS for more insights.]With the 8th House – its

lord and significator are all involved. The PitriKaraka Brihaspati (Jupiter)

will reveal challenges coming from or to the elders. Some years where the

challenges came or could come are:

Ju 3 30,34 24,56If your Shastyamsa is correct (D60), you may have seen

unfulfilled expectations or shock per Rahu's Moola Dasha (Maha Dasha is a

general trend) and felt closer to spirituality under Rahu / Venus.

I hope some of this helps. May the Gurus continue to guide us.Best

wishes,Nitin.|| Namah Shivaaya ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

"vinita kumar"CC:Thu, 27 Oct 2005

15:50:09 -0000Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

Dear Nitin,Namaskar!I did give the birth particulars when I posted the initial

queries.(DOB: 3rd July, 1954; 2.43 a.m.; Lucknow). Once long back u

hadmentioned that the ninth house from badhaka sthan indicates the curse

and its nature and I kept puzzling over how Mercury indicated a cursefor me.

Curse of Saturn, Mars and Rahu by Venus and Jupiter fits thepattern better.I am

basically interested in identifying the difficult areas in my

chart since I believe that knowledge about ourselves helps tounderstand the

impulses that drive us. This is important if we wantto consciously change

ourselves.I shall be grateful for your views on the subject.

Warm regards,Vinita>>>>>..UntitledNatal Chart July 3, 1954Time:

2:43:00 amTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 80 E 55' 00",

26 N 51' 00"

Lucknow, IndiaAltitude: 0.00 metersLunar Yr-Mo: Jaya -

AshadhaTithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (48.53% left)Vedic Weekday: Friday

(Ve)Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (94.64% left)

Yoga: Harshana (Su) (15.59% left)Karana: Garija (Ju) (97.07%

left)Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Vi)Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign:

Aq)Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Saturn)Sunrise: 5:20:12 am (July 2)

Sunset: 6:59:58 pm (July 2)Janma Ghatis: 53.4502Ayanamsa:

23-13-34.32Sidereal Time: 21:18:09Body Longitude

Nakshatra Pada Rasi NavamsaLagna 9 Ta 23' 53.66" Krit 4

Ta PiSun - MK 17 Ge 12' 21.04" Ardr 4 Ge PiMoon - BK

17 Cn 22' 54.49" Asre 1 Cn SgMars ® - DK 6 Sg 53'

55.88" Mool 3 Sg Ge

Mercury ® - AmK 22 Ge 22' 49.90" Puna 1 Ge ArJupiter - PiK

15 Ge 38' 48.02" Ardr 3 Ge AqVenus - AK 24 Cn 37' 42.06"

Asre 3 Cn AqSaturn ® - PK 9 Li 25' 41.39" Swat 1 Li

SgRahu - GK 21 Sg 50' 30.72" PSha 3 Sg LiKetu

21 Ge 50' 30.72" Puna 1 Ge ArMaandi 5 Ar 25' 02.16"

Aswi 2 Ar Ta

Gulika 22 Pi 22' 40.72" Reva 2 Pi

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Dear Vinita,

 

I was taught to see Malefics who aspects "curser" dasa in Moola dasa.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:50 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

 

 

> Dear Rafal Ji,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> Thank you for your response. It is interesting to note that Rahu in

> the sign of Jupiter can give a curse. What would be the nature of

> this curse? You have written that "The aspect must be Graha Dristi

> as desire must be involved". Jupiter (the curser) has a second house

> aspect on Rahu. Rahu is a planet of desires. But what kind of

> desires can it have in the 8th House in a sign of debilitation (?)

> and sign of Jupiter is something I have to fathom with your help.

>

> "To see when it will manifest see the dasa of Malefics in Moola

> Dasa." Checked up the Moola dasha and found that Rahu MD got over in

> July 2005. So is the curse of Jupiter over?

>

> The next 2 MDs are of benefics. So can one presume that the effect

> of curses will not manifest during these periods? But isn't Venus a

> bigger curser in my case?

>

> I would like to thank you once again for your help and would look

> forward to the answers.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

>

> , "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Vinita,

>>

>> In curses we see at least two malefics (Sa,Ma,Ra) aspecting most

> benefic planet. The benefic planet will indicate curser (Jupiter -

> learned person, Venus - lover) etc. The aspect must be Graha Dristi

> as desire must be involved. To see when it will manifest see the

> dasa of Malefics in Moola Dasa.

>>

>> Rahu can give curse when posited in Jupiter Signs.

>>

>> Regards

>> Rafal Gendarz

>>

>>

>> -

>> Visti Larsen

>>

>> Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:34 PM

>> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>>

>>

>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>>

>> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>>

>> Reg. eighth lord - that was a slip-up.

>>

>>

>>

>> One may have many curses in the chart, but only one MAIN curse.

> It is the main curse, which is deciding the main experiences, whilst

> the sub-curses are just adding to the intensity of the main curse.

> I.e. you earned a curse from spouse, by doing something terribly

> wrong to your spouse in the past life, and the guru or brahmin was

> also affected by this and this has become an additional curse.

>>

>>

>>

>> To learn more about curses, i'm sure Rafal, Nitin, Samir or the

> other well-informed students can help you out.

>>

>> Best wishes,

>>

>> ***

>>

>> Visti Larsen

>>

>> For services and articles visit:

>>

>> http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

>>

>> ***

>>

>>

>> -

> -----------

>>

>>

> [] On Behalf Of vinita kumar

>> 26 October 2005 14:34

>>

>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>>

>>

>>

>> Dear Vistiji,

>>

>> Pranam!

>>

>> I thank you for your response. Just for a little more

> understanding

>> of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not cursed but

> Venus

>> is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.

>>

>> You have written, "Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord)"

> Isn't

>> my 8th Lord Jupiter?

>>

>> I do appreciate the point that the curse is related to the AK

> and

>> Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of two malefics on Venus

> which

>> is more important for the curse.

>>

>> Though my knowledge of astrology is extremely limited,

> intuitively I

>> was under the impression that the curse had something to do with

>> Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi and Navamsa. Three

>> planets are in the star of Rahu too.

>>

>> Could you throw some light on the nature of Rahu and MArs in my

>> chart, going by the initial statement, "Normally we look for

> curses

>> through the ....conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

>> planet"

>>

>> Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th conjoined by a

> debilitated

>> (?) Rahu?

>>

>> Thanks once again for your analysis and advice.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Vinita

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>> >

>> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>> >

>> > Curses which affect us on a personal level should have an

>> association with

>> > the lagna or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and

>> atmakaraka is

>> > Venus, and is not strongly associated with the curse on

> jupiter.

>> >

>> > Instead Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars,

> thus

>> making the

>> > curse of spouse (venus) must stronger in your chart.

>> >

>> > To overcome it you should worship your atmalinga, with a Shiva

>> mantra. The

>> > specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om Namah

> Shivaaya

>> > Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

>> >

>> > Best wishes,

>> >

>> > ***

>> >

>> > Visti Larsen

>> >

>> > For services and articles visit:

>> >

>> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

>> <http://astrovisti.com>

>> > http://astrovisti.com

>> >

>> > ***

>> >

>> > _____

>> >

>> >

>> [] On

>> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

>> > 25 October 2005 13:54

>> >

>> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Dear Vistiji,

>> >

>> > Namaskar!

>> >

>> > Many thanks for your response.

>> > Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the curse.

>> > How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

>> >

>> > Regards,

>> > Vinita

>> >

>> > , "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

>> > wrote:

>> > >

>> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>> > >

>> > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>> > >

>> > > Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

>> > >

>> > > Best wishes,

>> > >

>> > > ***

>> > >

>> > > Visti Larsen

>> > >

>> > > For services and articles visit:

>> > >

>> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

>> > <http://astrovisti.com>

>> > > http://astrovisti.com

>> > >

>> > > ***

>> > >

>> > > _____

>> > >

>> > >

>> > [] On

>> > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

>> > > 24 October 2005 18:20

>> > >

>> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Dear Vistiji,

>> > >

>> > > Namaskar!

>> > >

>> > > Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

>> > >

>> > > In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses

>> through

>> > > the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

>> planet"

>> > >

>> > > I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun, Mercury

> in

>> > 2nd

>> > > H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

>> > >

>> > > Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of

> the

>> > > subject.

>> > >

>> > > Regards,

>> > >

>> > > Vinita

>> > >

>> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>> > > >

>> > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

>> > > >

>> > > > Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana

> have

>> > > anything to do

>> > > > with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was

>> seeing

>> > > the badhaka

>> > > > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru (ninth

>> > lord),

>> > > but

>> > > > nothing else.

>> > > >

>> > > > Best wishes,

>> > > >

>> > > > ***

>> > > >

>> > > > Visti Larsen

>> > > >

>> > > > For services and articles visit:

>> > > >

>> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

>> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

>> > > > http://astrovisti.com

>> > > >

>> > > > ***

>> > > >

>> > > > _____

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > [] On

>> > > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

>> > > > 23 October 2005 17:40

>> > > >

>> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > Dear Vistiji,

>> > > >

>> > > > Namaskar!

>> > > >

>> > > > This is just to understand curses and their nature thru

>> > discussion.

>> > > I

>> > > > don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there

> have

>> been

>> > > > challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I

> now

>> > feel

>> > > > confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

>> > > >

>> > > > Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult aspects

> in

>> > the

>> > > > horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the discussions

> on

>> > this

>> > > > subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the 9th

>> House

>> > > from

>> > > > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo

>> which

>> > > does

>> > > > not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of planets

> on

>> > the 2-

>> > > 8

>> > > > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away

> at 4

>> > > > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this

> signifies.

>> > > > Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars

> and

>> Rahu.

>> > > >

>> > > > Shall be very grateful for your response!

>> > > >

>> > > > Vinita

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

>> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> Ashram.

>> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

>> Krishna'

>> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

> who

>> said

>> > > that the

>> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

>> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

> chart

>> > > reading today

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> that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

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> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

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Dear Nitin,

 

Namaskar!

Many thanks for such a detailed response.

1. We can forget about the 9th from Badhakesh as this point has

already been clarified by Vistiji and now by you.

2. You have written that the main curse is not of Venus whereas

Vistiji was of the opinion that this was the main curse. May I know

what are the reasons for difference in perception?

3. Venus' age has been mentioned in pairs of 2 numbers (6 25; 26 6).

As regards 52 I am currently runnin the 52nd year and do not feel

particularly cursed. In fact things are moving towards a more

peaceful life, in some ways I think.

4. Shocks during Rahu Moola dasha - again I don't remember anything

major.

 

I have given the detailed feedback so as to improve my own

understanding of the placement of planets in my chart. In a way

astrology has helped me. Ever since I read in Rathji's article that

those with Venus as Atmakaraka have to be particularly careful about

leading a "pure" life, I have become very much on guard. If there is

any past life karma / curse I don't want it to be repeated in this

life.

 

Maybe these are only my conjectures since my knowledge of astrology

is so limited. That is why I wanted the help of gurujis and those

with more knowledge of the subject like you to help me understand

things better.

 

I would once again like to thank you for your effort and time.

 

Regards,

 

Vinita

 

, "Nitin K" <sjc@j...> wrote:

>

>

> ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

>

> Dear Vinita Ji,Namaskaar.

>

> I apologize if I missed the part of your birth details in a prior

posting.

>

> I also do not recall mentioning 9th House from a Baadhaka Sthaana

specifically indicating a curse and its nature. If you can send me

the e-mail referencing this, I may be able to check how I was

attempting an analysis on the list?

> The 9th House is the Baadhaka Sthaana for a fixed sign lagna (this

you already know). 2 links I usually reference for more on the

subject are:

>

> http://www.srath.com/lectures/badhak01.htm

> http://www.srath.com/mantra/ganesa3.htm

>

> Visti has also clarified more on the above and I believe a mantra

has been imparted for you!

>

> With regard to Lagnesh Shukracharya (Venus) in your chart, though

aspected by krura grahas Shani and Rahu, is not the main curse in the

chart. The reason you may feel suffering more so in this area is

because it is also the Chara AtmaKaraka. The natural age(s) for Venus

are:

>

> Ve 6 25,26 6,52

> …these are some of the years you will most likely meet challenges

relating to harmony. The houses ruled by the graha under the

affliction will reveal more the source and its position more of where

it manifests.

>

> [i am still working on better understanding why these numbers and

Visti has hinted on examining Chapter 9 BPHS for more insights.]

>

> With the 8th House – its lord and significator are all involved.

The PitriKaraka Brihaspati (Jupiter) will reveal challenges coming

from or to the elders. Some years where the challenges came or could

come are:

> Ju 3 30,34 24,56

>

> If your Shastyamsa is correct (D60), you may have seen unfulfilled

expectations or shock per Rahu's Moola Dasha (Maha Dasha is a general

trend) and felt closer to spirituality under Rahu / Venus.

>

> I hope some of this helps. May the Gurus continue to guide us.

> Best wishes,

>

> Nitin.

>

> || Namah Shivaaya ||

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

> "vinita kumar"

>

> CC:

> Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:50:09 -0000

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> Dear Nitin,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> I did give the birth particulars when I posted the initial queries.

> (DOB: 3rd July, 1954; 2.43 a.m.; Lucknow). Once long back u had

> mentioned that the ninth house from badhaka sthan indicates the

curse

> and its nature and I kept puzzling over how Mercury indicated a

curse

> for me. Curse of Saturn, Mars and Rahu by Venus and Jupiter fits

the

> pattern better.

>

> I am basically interested in identifying the difficult areas in my

> chart since I believe that knowledge about ourselves helps to

> understand the impulses that drive us. This is important if we want

> to consciously change ourselves.

>

> I shall be grateful for your views on the subject.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Vinita

>

> >>>>>..

> Untitled

>

> Natal Chart

>

> July 3, 1954

> Time: 2:43:00 am

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 80 E 55' 00", 26 N 51' 00"

> Lucknow, India

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

> Lunar Yr-Mo: Jaya - Ashadha

> Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (48.53% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (94.64% left)

> Yoga: Harshana (Su) (15.59% left)

> Karana: Garija (Ju) (97.07% left)

> Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Vi)

> Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Aq)

> Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Saturn)

>

> Sunrise: 5:20:12 am (July 2)

> Sunset: 6:59:58 pm (July 2)

> Janma Ghatis: 53.4502

>

> Ayanamsa: 23-13-34.32

> Sidereal Time: 21:18:09

>

> Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

>

> Lagna 9 Ta 23' 53.66" Krit 4 Ta Pi

> Sun - MK 17 Ge 12' 21.04" Ardr 4 Ge Pi

> Moon - BK 17 Cn 22' 54.49" Asre 1 Cn Sg

> Mars ® - DK 6 Sg 53' 55.88" Mool 3 Sg Ge

> Mercury ® - AmK 22 Ge 22' 49.90" Puna 1 Ge Ar

> Jupiter - PiK 15 Ge 38' 48.02" Ardr 3 Ge Aq

> Venus - AK 24 Cn 37' 42.06" Asre 3 Cn Aq

> Saturn ® - PK 9 Li 25' 41.39" Swat 1 Li Sg

> Rahu - GK 21 Sg 50' 30.72" PSha 3 Sg Li

> Ketu 21 Ge 50' 30.72" Puna 1 Ge Ar

> Maandi 5 Ar 25' 02.16" Aswi 2 Ar Ta

> Gulika 22 Pi 22' 40.72" Reva 2 Pi Cp

>

>

>

> >>>>>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Jagannthan ji

 

Namaskar,

Yes, you are very welcome to take part in analysis of my chart. Some

responses. My mother had 7 children, five of whom were elder to me

and all male and two of whom passed away at ages 2.5yr. and 3-4yrs. I

have a younger brother and there was a sister too who was born but

passed away within a month or so of her birth. My mother has an elder

sister and younger brother surviving her. There were many younger

brothers who were born and did not survive till the now surviving

brother was "donated" to a well known mahanta but returned

as "prasad" by the Mahanta to my grandmother. My mother passed away

in 1987.

 

My younger brother has been fairly comfortable financially. The

financial problems of my father were not very pronounced in the

period you have mentioned.

 

I thank you for your effort and time and hope my replies would be of

some help.

 

With regards,

 

Vinita

 

, Jagannathan Kapisthalam

<jagannathankr@g...> wrote:

>

> Sri.Vanitha garu,

> May I also take part in an analysis of your chart.To start with let

me give

> some predictions for verification of your chart.?

> You have two elder coborns due to combination of Jupiter and

Mercury.1959 to

> 1960 was a good period for your mother and her people.Your mother

has three

> or two elder coborns.and younger coborns also.?5-8-1993 to 3-6-1996-

-it was

> a fine period at home, financially, some learning,good for children

and what

> not.?

> Possibly you have one short lived younger sister .or that she

continues to

> live.This is because Venus is with Moon.1981 to 1983 was a good

period for

> your younger coborn.1980 to 1982 was bad for financial matters or

your

> father etc.

> This is because Sun is the lord of the second from Moon sign.

> Please reply,

> Regards,

> jagannathan.

>

>

> On 10/27/05, Nitin K <sjc@j...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

> >

> > Dear Vinita Ji,Namaskaar.

> >

> > I apologize if I missed the part of your birth details in a prior

posting.

> >

> > I also do not recall mentioning 9th House from a Baadhaka Sthaana

> > specifically indicating a curse and its nature. If you can send

me the

> > e-mail referencing this, I may be able to check how I was

attempting an

> > analysis on the list?

> > The 9th House is the Baadhaka Sthaana for a fixed sign lagna

(this you

> > already know). 2 links I usually reference for more on the

subject are:

> >

> > http://www.srath.com/lectures/badhak01.htm

> > http://www.srath.com/mantra/ganesa3.htm

> >

> > Visti has also clarified more on the above and I believe a mantra

has been

> > imparted for you!

> >

> > With regard to Lagnesh Shukracharya (Venus) in your chart, though

aspected

> > by krura grahas Shani and Rahu, is not the main curse in the

chart. The

> > reason you may feel suffering more so in this area is because it

is also the

> > Chara AtmaKaraka. The natural age(s) for Venus are:

> >

> > Ve 6 25,26 6,52

> > …these are some of the years you will most likely meet challenges

relating

> > to harmony. The houses ruled by the graha under the affliction

will reveal

> > more the source and its position more of where it manifests.

> >

> > [i am still working on better understanding why these numbers and

Visti

> > has hinted on examining Chapter 9 BPHS for more insights.]

> >

> > With the 8th House – its lord and significator are all involved.

The

> > PitriKaraka Brihaspati (Jupiter) will reveal challenges coming

from or to

> > the elders. Some years where the challenges came or could come

are:

> > Ju 3 30,34 24,56

> >

> > If your Shastyamsa is correct (D60), you may have seen unfulfilled

> > expectations or shock per Rahu's Moola Dasha (Maha Dasha is a

general trend)

> > and felt closer to spirituality under Rahu / Venus.

> >

> > I hope some of this helps. May the Gurus continue to guide us.

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Nitin.

> >

> > || Namah Shivaaya ||

> >

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

> > "vinita kumar"

> >

> > CC:

> > Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:50:09 -0000

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> > Dear Nitin,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > I did give the birth particulars when I posted the initial

queries.

> > (DOB: 3rd July, 1954; 2.43 a.m.; Lucknow). Once long back u had

> > mentioned that the ninth house from badhaka sthan indicates the

curse

> > and its nature and I kept puzzling over how Mercury indicated a

curse

> > for me. Curse of Saturn, Mars and Rahu by Venus and Jupiter fits

the

> > pattern better.

> >

> > I am basically interested in identifying the difficult areas in my

> > chart since I believe that knowledge about ourselves helps to

> > understand the impulses that drive us. This is important if we

want

> > to consciously change ourselves.

> >

> > I shall be grateful for your views on the subject.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> > >>>>>..

> > Untitled

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > July 3, 1954

> > Time: 2:43:00 am

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 80 E 55' 00", 26 N 51' 00"

> > Lucknow, India

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Jaya - Ashadha

> > Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (48.53% left)

> > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> > Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (94.64% left)

> > Yoga: Harshana (Su) (15.59% left)

> > Karana: Garija (Ju) (97.07% left)

> > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Vi)

> > Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Aq)

> > Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Saturn)

> >

> > Sunrise: 5:20:12 am (July 2)

> > Sunset: 6:59:58 pm (July 2)

> > Janma Ghatis: 53.4502

> >

> > Ayanamsa: 23-13-34.32

> > Sidereal Time: 21:18:09

> >

> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> >

> > Lagna 9 Ta 23' 53.66" Krit 4 Ta Pi

> > Sun - MK 17 Ge 12' 21.04" Ardr 4 Ge Pi

> > Moon - BK 17 Cn 22' 54.49" Asre 1 Cn Sg

> > Mars ® - DK 6 Sg 53' 55.88" Mool 3 Sg Ge

> > Mercury ® - AmK 22 Ge 22' 49.90" Puna 1 Ge Ar

> > Jupiter - PiK 15 Ge 38' 48.02" Ardr 3 Ge Aq

> > Venus - AK 24 Cn 37' 42.06" Asre 3 Cn Aq

> > Saturn ® - PK 9 Li 25' 41.39" Swat 1 Li Sg

> > Rahu - GK 21 Sg 50' 30.72" PSha 3 Sg Li

> > Ketu 21 Ge 50' 30.72" Puna 1 Ge Ar

> > Maandi 5 Ar 25' 02.16" Aswi 2 Ar Ta

> > Gulika 22 Pi 22' 40.72" Reva 2 Pi Cp

> >

> >

> >

> > >>>>>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ______________

> > Sent via the WebMail system at justnitin.com

<http://justnitin.com>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Rafal ji,

 

Namaskar!

 

The Moola dasha of curser (Venus) will start in 2015. So should I

watch out Saturn and MArs which are the planets aspecting it?

 

Many thanks for your response.

 

Regards,

 

Vinita

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:

>

> Dear Vinita,

>

> I was taught to see Malefics who aspects "curser" dasa in Moola

dasa.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> "vinita kumar" <vinita@u...>

> <>

> Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:50 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

>

>

> > Dear Rafal Ji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > Thank you for your response. It is interesting to note that Rahu

in

> > the sign of Jupiter can give a curse. What would be the nature of

> > this curse? You have written that "The aspect must be Graha Dristi

> > as desire must be involved". Jupiter (the curser) has a second

house

> > aspect on Rahu. Rahu is a planet of desires. But what kind of

> > desires can it have in the 8th House in a sign of debilitation (?)

> > and sign of Jupiter is something I have to fathom with your help.

> >

> > "To see when it will manifest see the dasa of Malefics in Moola

> > Dasa." Checked up the Moola dasha and found that Rahu MD got over

in

> > July 2005. So is the curse of Jupiter over?

> >

> > The next 2 MDs are of benefics. So can one presume that the effect

> > of curses will not manifest during these periods? But isn't Venus

a

> > bigger curser in my case?

> >

> > I would like to thank you once again for your help and would look

> > forward to the answers.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> >

> > , "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Vinita,

> >>

> >> In curses we see at least two malefics (Sa,Ma,Ra) aspecting most

> > benefic planet. The benefic planet will indicate curser (Jupiter -

> > learned person, Venus - lover) etc. The aspect must be Graha

Dristi

> > as desire must be involved. To see when it will manifest see the

> > dasa of Malefics in Moola Dasa.

> >>

> >> Rahu can give curse when posited in Jupiter Signs.

> >>

> >> Regards

> >> Rafal Gendarz

> >>

> >>

> >> -

> >> Visti Larsen

> >>

> >> Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:34 PM

> >> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >>

> >>

> >> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >>

> >> Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >>

> >> Reg. eighth lord - that was a slip-up.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> One may have many curses in the chart, but only one MAIN curse.

> > It is the main curse, which is deciding the main experiences,

whilst

> > the sub-curses are just adding to the intensity of the main curse.

> > I.e. you earned a curse from spouse, by doing something terribly

> > wrong to your spouse in the past life, and the guru or brahmin was

> > also affected by this and this has become an additional curse.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> To learn more about curses, i'm sure Rafal, Nitin, Samir or the

> > other well-informed students can help you out.

> >>

> >> Best wishes,

> >>

> >> ***

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen

> >>

> >> For services and articles visit:

> >>

> >> http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

> >>

> >> ***

> >>

> >>

> >> --------------------------------

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> > -----------

> >>

> >>

> > [] On Behalf Of vinita kumar

> >> 26 October 2005 14:34

> >>

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Dear Vistiji,

> >>

> >> Pranam!

> >>

> >> I thank you for your response. Just for a little more

> > understanding

> >> of the subject - do I take it that Jupiter is not cursed but

> > Venus

> >> is through aspect of Saturn and Mars.

> >>

> >> You have written, "Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord)"

> > Isn't

> >> my 8th Lord Jupiter?

> >>

> >> I do appreciate the point that the curse is related to the AK

> > and

> >> Lagnesh and in my case it the aspect of two malefics on Venus

> > which

> >> is more important for the curse.

> >>

> >> Though my knowledge of astrology is extremely limited,

> > intuitively I

> >> was under the impression that the curse had something to do

with

> >> Rahu which is in the 8th house both in Rasi and Navamsa. Three

> >> planets are in the star of Rahu too.

> >>

> >> Could you throw some light on the nature of Rahu and MArs in my

> >> chart, going by the initial statement, "Normally we look for

> > curses

> >> through the ....conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> >> planet"

> >>

> >> Is there a VRY on account of Mars in 8th conjoined by a

> > debilitated

> >> (?) Rahu?

> >>

> >> Thanks once again for your analysis and advice.

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Vinita

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> >> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >> >

> >> > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >> >

> >> > Curses which affect us on a personal level should have an

> >> association with

> >> > the lagna or the atmakaraka. In your cases the lagnesh and

> >> atmakaraka is

> >> > Venus, and is not strongly associated with the curse on

> > jupiter.

> >> >

> >> > Instead Venus is aspected by Saturn (eighth lord) and Mars,

> > thus

> >> making the

> >> > curse of spouse (venus) must stronger in your chart.

> >> >

> >> > To overcome it you should worship your atmalinga, with a

Shiva

> >> mantra. The

> >> > specific form is trayambakeshvara. The mantra is Om Namah

> > Shivaaya

> >> > Trayambakaaya Haum Joom Sah.

> >> >

> >> > Best wishes,

> >> >

> >> > ***

> >> >

> >> > Visti Larsen

> >> >

> >> > For services and articles visit:

> >> >

> >> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> >> <http://astrovisti.com>

> >> > http://astrovisti.com

> >> >

> >> > ***

> >> >

> >> > _____

> >> >

> >> >

> >> [] On

> >> > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> >> > 25 October 2005 13:54

> >> >

> >> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Dear Vistiji,

> >> >

> >> > Namaskar!

> >> >

> >> > Many thanks for your response.

> >> > Could u please enlighten further about the nature of the

curse.

> >> > How am I overcoming it? I have a Guru.

> >> >

> >> > Regards,

> >> > Vinita

> >> >

> >> > , "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> >> > wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >> > >

> >> > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >> > >

> >> > > Yes it is a curse, how are you overcoming it?

> >> > >

> >> > > Best wishes,

> >> > >

> >> > > ***

> >> > >

> >> > > Visti Larsen

> >> > >

> >> > > For services and articles visit:

> >> > >

> >> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> >> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> >> > > http://astrovisti.com

> >> > >

> >> > > ***

> >> > >

> >> > > _____

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > [] On

> >> > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> >> > > 24 October 2005 18:20

> >> > >

> >> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Dear Vistiji,

> >> > >

> >> > > Namaskar!

> >> > >

> >> > > Thank you for clearing the misunderstanding.

> >> > >

> >> > > In an earlier post you wrote, "Normally we look for curses

> >> through

> >> > > the aspect/conjunction of 2 or more malefics on a house or

> >> planet"

> >> > >

> >> > > I have Mars and Rahu in 8th looking at Jupiter, Sun,

Mercury

> > in

> >> > 2nd

> >> > > H. Does this constitute some kind of a curse.

> >> > >

> >> > > Shall be grateful to you for improving my understanding of

> > the

> >> > > subject.

> >> > >

> >> > > Regards,

> >> > >

> >> > > Vinita

> >> > >

> >> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Dear Vinita, Namaskar

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Since when did the ninth house from the badhaka sthana

> > have

> >> > > anything to do

> >> > > > with badhaka or curses? I did use one example where i was

> >> seeing

> >> > > the badhaka

> >> > > > from the ninth lord, to see the badhaka to the Guru

(ninth

> >> > lord),

> >> > > but

> >> > > > nothing else.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Best wishes,

> >> > > >

> >> > > > ***

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Visti Larsen

> >> > > >

> >> > > > For services and articles visit:

> >> > > >

> >> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> >> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> >> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> >> > > >

> >> > > > ***

> >> > > >

> >> > > > _____

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > [] On

> >> > > > Behalf Of vinita kumar

> >> > > > 23 October 2005 17:40

> >> > > >

> >> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Dear Vistiji,

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Namaskar!

> >> > > >

> >> > > > This is just to understand curses and their nature thru

> >> > discussion.

> >> > > I

> >> > > > don't feel particularly cursed or anything - but there

> > have

> >> been

> >> > > > challenges in the past - maybe also the future - which I

> > now

> >> > feel

> >> > > > confident of facing with the grace of my Guru.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Its just that I wanted to understand the difficult

aspects

> > in

> >> > the

> >> > > > horoscope for greater awareness. In one of the

discussions

> > on

> >> > this

> >> > > > subject I remember that someone had mentioned that the

9th

> >> House

> >> > > from

> >> > > > Badhak sthan signifies curses. This house for me is Virgo

> >> which

> >> > > does

> >> > > > not have any planet. But I do have a clustering of

planets

> > on

> >> > the 2-

> >> > > 8

> >> > > > axis. There are the 2 malefics Rahu and Mars glaring away

> > at 4

> >> > > > planets in the 2nd house. Was wondering what this

> > signifies.

> >> > > > Specially since the next two MDs for me will be of Mars

> > and

> >> Rahu.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Shall be very grateful for your response!

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Vinita

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> >> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> > Ashram.

> >> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> >> Krishna'

> >> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

> > who

> >> said

> >> > > that the

> >> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> >> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

> > chart

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> >> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> >> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram.

> >> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> > Krishna'

> >> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> > said

> >> > that the

> >> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> >> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart

> >> > reading today

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Vedic

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> >> > t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Fr

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> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ~ om tat sat ~

> >> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> >> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> > Krishna'

> >> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> > said

> >> that the

> >> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> >> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> >> reading today

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

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> >> >

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> >> > </gads?

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> >>

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> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ~ om tat sat ~

> >> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> >> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> >> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> >> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

> >>

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> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

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||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

 

Dear Vinita Ji, Namaskaar.

 

Some thoughts below…

 

Dear Nitin,

 

Namaskar!

Many thanks for such a detailed response.

1. We can forget about the 9th from Badhakesh as this point has

already been clarified by Vistiji and now by you.

 

[Via NK]

OK. In agreement.

 

2. You have written that the main curse is not of Venus whereas

Vistiji was of the opinion that this was the main curse. May I know

what are the reasons for difference in perception?

 

[Via NK]

I have gone back to read Visti’s e-mail more carefully and also looked at the

chart again. I am in agreement with him. I have overlooked that Shukracharya

(Venus) is indeed the Lagnesh AND the Chara AtmaKaraka which is afflicted by the

krura grahas.

 

 

 

 

3. Venus' age has been mentioned in pairs of 2 numbers (6 25; 26 6).

As regards 52 I am currently runnin the 52nd year and do not feel

particularly cursed. In fact things are moving towards a more

peaceful life, in some ways I think.

 

[Via NK]

This is good. Please keep the mantra, though, which has been imparted to you.

 

Anything troublesome with relationships around 25?

 

 

 

 

4. Shocks during Rahu Moola dasha - again I don't remember anything

major.

[Via NK]

Ok – all the better. The Shastyamsa may need some rectification.

 

 

 

 

I have given the detailed feedback so as to improve my own

understanding of the placement of planets in my chart. In a way

astrology has helped me. Ever since I read in Rathji's article that

those with Venus as Atmakaraka have to be particularly careful about

leading a "pure" life, I have become very much on guard. If there is

any past life karma / curse I don't want it to be repeated in this

life.

 

Maybe these are only my conjectures since my knowledge of astrology

is so limited. That is why I wanted the help of gurujis and those

with more knowledge of the subject like you to help me understand

things better.

 

I would once again like to thank you for your effort and time.

 

Regards,

 

Vinita

 

 

[Via Nk]

We are all learning here, and are indeed blessed to have guidance in the

subject. Thank you for sharing your chart and giving students an opportunity to

learn more.

 

May the Gurus continue to guide us.

 

Best wishes,

Nitin.

|| Namah Shivaaya ||

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Nitin K" <sjc@j...> wrote:

>

>

> ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

>

> Dear Vinita Ji,Namaskaar.

>

> I apologize if I missed the part of your birth details in a prior

posting.

>

> I also do not recall mentioning 9th House from a Baadhaka Sthaana

specifically indicating a curse and its nature. If you can send me

the e-mail referencing this, I may be able to check how I was

attempting an analysis on the list?

> The 9th House is the Baadhaka Sthaana for a fixed sign lagna (this

you already know). 2 links I usually reference for more on the

subject are:

>

> http://www.srath.com/lectures/badhak01.htm

> http://www.srath.com/mantra/ganesa3.htm

>

> Visti has also clarified more on the above and I believe a mantra

has been imparted for you!

>

> With regard to Lagnesh Shukracharya (Venus) in your chart, though

aspected by krura grahas Shani and Rahu, is not the main curse in the

chart. The reason you may feel suffering more so in this area is

because it is also the Chara AtmaKaraka. The natural age(s) for Venus

are:

>

> Ve 6 25,26 6,52

> …these are some of the years you will most likely meet challenges

relating to harmony. The houses ruled by the graha under the

affliction will reveal more the source and its position more of where

it manifests.

>

> [i am still working on better understanding why these numbers and

Visti has hinted on examining Chapter 9 BPHS for more insights.]

>

> With the 8th House – its lord and significator are all involved.

The PitriKaraka Brihaspati (Jupiter) will reveal challenges coming

from or to the elders. Some years where the challenges came or could

come are:

> Ju 3 30,34 24,56

>

> If your Shastyamsa is correct (D60), you may have seen unfulfilled

expectations or shock per Rahu's Moola Dasha (Maha Dasha is a general

trend) and felt closer to spirituality under Rahu / Venus.

>

> I hope some of this helps. May the Gurus continue to guide us.

> Best wishes,

>

> Nitin.

>

> || Namah Shivaaya ||

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

> "vinita kumar"

>

> CC:

> Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:50:09 -0000

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Understanding Curses

> Dear Nitin,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> I did give the birth particulars when I posted the initial queries.

> (DOB: 3rd July, 1954; 2.43 a.m.; Lucknow). Once long back u had

> mentioned that the ninth house from badhaka sthan indicates the

curse

> and its nature and I kept puzzling over how Mercury indicated a

curse

> for me. Curse of Saturn, Mars and Rahu by Venus and Jupiter fits

the

> pattern better.

>

> I am basically interested in identifying the difficult areas in my

> chart since I believe that knowledge about ourselves helps to

> understand the impulses that drive us. This is important if we want

> to consciously change ourselves.

>

> I shall be grateful for your views on the subject.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Vinita

>

> >>>>>..

> Untitled

>

> Natal Chart

>

> July 3, 1954

> Time: 2:43:00 am

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 80 E 55' 00", 26 N 51' 00"

> Lucknow, India

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

> Lunar Yr-Mo: Jaya - Ashadha

> Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (48.53% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (94.64% left)

> Yoga: Harshana (Su) (15.59% left)

> Karana: Garija (Ju) (97.07% left)

> Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Vi)

> Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Aq)

> Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Saturn)

>

> Sunrise: 5:20:12 am (July 2)

> Sunset: 6:59:58 pm (July 2)

> Janma Ghatis: 53.4502

>

> Ayanamsa: 23-13-34.32

> Sidereal Time: 21:18:09

>

> Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

>

> Lagna 9 Ta 23' 53.66" Krit 4 Ta Pi

> Sun - MK 17 Ge 12' 21.04" Ardr 4 Ge Pi

> Moon - BK 17 Cn 22' 54.49" Asre 1 Cn Sg

> Mars ® - DK 6 Sg 53' 55.88" Mool 3 Sg Ge

> Mercury ® - AmK 22 Ge 22' 49.90" Puna 1 Ge Ar

> Jupiter - PiK 15 Ge 38' 48.02" Ardr 3 Ge Aq

> Venus - AK 24 Cn 37' 42.06" Asre 3 Cn Aq

> Saturn ® - PK 9 Li 25' 41.39" Swat 1 Li Sg

> Rahu - GK 21 Sg 50' 30.72" PSha 3 Sg Li

> Ketu 21 Ge 50' 30.72" Puna 1 Ge Ar

> Maandi 5 Ar 25' 02.16" Aswi 2 Ar Ta

> Gulika 22 Pi 22' 40.72" Reva 2 Pi Cp

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