Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Hello vistiji i was not able to understand all can u please tell I am presently wearing6 ¼ ratti emerald in Silver in left hand's little finger.Over 5 ratti white sapphire in Silver with small yellow dot (kesaria safed pukhraj) in ring finger of left hand. One 3 1/4 ratti Blue sapphire in Gold in middle finger of right hand and what should i wear? second i did not understood all this will i get married and when can i have? what are the remedies i do? Thanks guruji Sonali , "vinaypatwardhan" <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Pranam Visti ji, > > Many thanks for explaining the principles. > > Regarding mars , yes I know that point but want your explanation about > it's bodhaka role to sun. Or am I streching? > > Secondly regarding Sat I've observed in 2 charts with Sat in 9th, that > one lost his partner and still leading bachelors life. Second case > have Sat+moon in 9th and engagement is done but ultimately marrigae > doesn't take place. Unfortunately these are 2nd from UL as well. So > now shall we have to move to 8th from UL to see next partner or have > to continue with same UL ? I think this is serious relationship and > it's comes to an end so have to move to 8th from UL. Am I correct? > > Secondly significance of 3rd as requirement is still not clear. What > about 4th and 6th house? Or you mean to say exactly reverse? Like for > parakrama (3rd) intellegince is required. For knowledge (4th) dhan, or > samskaras is required, for dharma to follow marriage is required, to > meake friends in life Dharma (ideals) is vital, to enhance intellect > gains or even astrology is required!! Like way... Or it's like pairs? > > One more thing you have mentioned malefics in upachaya are good but > i.e. from Lagna. Now my little understanding is, basically upachaya is > growth and 3rd shows mithuna or copulation (again mars comes into > picture, strength in general required) Now malefics in 3rd from 7th > house shows excessive growth of copulation (3rd) desires(of 7th H) > Hence causing fall in dharma. Which will affect lagna (sun) and paka > lagna (jup) both !! and detrimental to them . Is there any thing which > I'm missing? > > Your guideline is very much required. Keep guiding me. > > With Pranam, > Vinay P , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Vinay, Namaskar > > > > Nice understanding. > > > > Venus controls virya; this is what Parasara says, and a strong Venus > will > > make the person very picky about whom they spend their virya on, > whilst a > > weak venus is indiscriminte in nature. Thats why a strong Venus is also > > called Brighu. > > > > Mars on the other hand just doesn't wanto enter life of a > householder, and > > thus will obstruct the marriage. This wasn't the main point of your > mail, > > but i wanted to mention it. > > > > Saturn hates the Sun and debilitates Jupiter... so i'm sure the > problem is > > both ways. Even Rahu isn't too fond of either of Sun and Jupiter, > but mainly > > Saturn is afflicting the dharma of Surya whilst Rahu is affecting > the bhagya > > of Guru. > > > > As for ninth house; One reason you gave was from the Gita - this is > > accepted. > > > > The other was regarding upachaya... whilst this is true, you need to > be more > > clear, because Parasara states that malefics are good in upachaya. > Keep in > > mind that he is talking about the upachaya from lagna. Also we are just > > talking about one of these upachaya bhavas, namely the third house. > > > > See the third house from ANY house, indicates 'that which is > required' for > > the house. E.g. Fifth house shows children, and you cannot have children > > without sex, so seventh house (third from fifth) is required. > Similarly the > > seventh house indicates marriage, and you cannot marry without dharma; > > without dharma there would be no laws and thus no marriage, so ninth > house > > (third from seventh) is required for this. > > > > If planets like Saturn and Rahu are in the ninth, then dharma is low > and we > > need to strengthen the dharma through certain means. Usually by just > > increasing the significations of the ninth house, i.e. Gayatri mantra, > > Yellow Stone or Red Stone, etc. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of vinaypatwardhan > > 19 November 2005 11:50 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please help) > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Pranam Visti ji, > > > > Sorry to but in, but want to celar out my understandings and may my > > little contribution enhance my comprehension. > > > > First of all we consider the 9th house as Dharma and gains from > > Dharma are to be seen in 7th (11th to 9th). Secondly 9th is upachaya > > to 7th (physical relationships)controlling the growth of 7th. So both > > contribute to each other. > > Famous Gita quote is corruption of woman is first sign of fall in > > dharma. > > > > Now regarding Sat and mars :- > > > > Sun is the karka of Dharma (we get through father) and guru , friend > > of sun, contributes by giving progeny. Now Sat is enemy of sun and is > > karka of 8th (widowhood/break in relationships)hence placed in > > 9th ,dominate his significations. Plus being manda obstructs the > > growth of dharma and control over delay. > > > > Where as in case of mars, mars controls the Viirya and try to > > maintain brahmacharya and being bodhaka to sun, try to enhance the > > brahmacharya for growth of dharma and his role enemy of venus, > > creates obstacles in vivaha. > > > > These are my little understandings and looking for your suggestions > > and guidelines. > > > > Does bhagya gets ruined by Sat or Dharma ? As jup is significator of > > Bhagya and sun for Dharma.And Sat us neutral to Jup but dire enemy to > > sun?? Am I thinking correct? > > > > With Pranam, > > > > Vinay > > > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > Always remember the context. Saturn in ninth can delay marriage > > because he > > > is ruining the bhagya. Mars in seventh can delay the marriage > > because he is > > > denying the conjugal happiness. > > > > > > The question is now: Why is ninth house important for marriage? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > > 19 November 2005 06:11 > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please > > help) > > > > > > > > > > > > II Hare Ram Krishna II > > > > > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam, > > > > > > A lot of thanks for replying the mail. Your reply has confused me > > betwwen > > > the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing to the delay of > > marriage. There > > > significations are quite different yet you have said about the > > Saturn that > > > it can delay and can never delay the marriage too. You have quoted > > the > > > examples of three charts. So let me prepare the reply well for > > further > > > continuation of discussion.I write to you in next days.Due to time > > > constraint I am unable to devote myself on the net. > > > > > > However I respect you as my GURU whether u consider me as a > > disciple or not. > > > > > > In the case of my female chart you have estimated the year of 2008 > > which is > > > also doubtfull because I am looking this chart as non-marital > > status. Reason > > > is well clear. So let me hope for the best. > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > A long and clarifying note this time. > > > > > > First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a > > bachelor, > > > but i never said that the person will remain that way. In my > > previous mail i > > > elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the > > person out of > > > this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified that > > the > > > problem is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars > > have plenty > > > of lovers, but because of their world-view, they may be delaying > > marriage. > > > > > > Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has > > delayed > > > marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house > > has not > > > delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on the seventh > > which can > > > delay marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Mars to > > keep one in > > > the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja > > dosha. Btw. > > > Mars' natural year is 28. Now see below. > > > > > > Examples: > > > > > > Male Native 1: > > > October 11, 1973 > > > Time: 20:40:30 > > > Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00" > > > > > > Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and > > Saturn is > > > NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person > > married after > > > his 28th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31. > > > > > > Male Native 2: > > > August 7, 1963 > > > Time: 21:15:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00" > > > Sambalpur, India > > > > > > In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming > > the Kuja > > > dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting > > the lord > > > Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is > > however > > > aspecting the seventh house, and the person married in the age of > > Mars, > > > namely 28th year. > > > > > > Female Native 1: > > > > > > August 3, 1974 > > > Time: 19:58:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" > > > Delhi, India > > > > > > In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being > > in the > > > seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the > > sixth > > > house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is > > placed. This > > > native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars > > in the > > > seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the > > person > > > married around 21/22. It was however in the natives 28th year that > > the > > > marriage fell apart. > > > > > > So in these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is not delaying > > marriage. In > > > the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not > > influence. In > > > the last case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did have aspect > > on the > > > seventh. > > > > > > But this doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If > > Saturn or > > > Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay > > marriage, because > > > the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya and > > karaka for > > > bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have > > here. > > > This is another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the > > Bhagavad > > > Gita: "adharmabhibhavat krsna...". > > > > > > The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after > > which the > > > graha has matured and the native has the opportunity to marry. > > Similarly if > > > Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelor life- > > style > > > (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-up to > > smell the > > > sweet scent of married life. > > > > > > Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which > > basically > > > is mars' graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the > > delay upto > > > 28th year. > > > > > > These are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and since marriage > > is a > > > natural phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is > > using the > > > naisargika dasa! > > > > > > But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage. > > Among the > > > kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four > > planets are in > > > a kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya > > yoga is > > > formed. People with such yogas will usually delay marriage until > > the age of > > > the strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will not accept > > marriage > > > as a true manifestation of love, or will generally not believe in > > marriage. > > > > > > In the chart that you have given, four planets are in the tenth > > house, and > > > are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that for some time, the > > native will > > > not believe in marriage, and also the partners she meets (upapada) > > will > > > share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest graha and will be the > > main cause - > > > ego. Could you clarify this persons relation to their father - > > dvadasamsa > > > has surya in the twelfth house, which shows that the father is not > > present > > > in the natives life. > > > > > > Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the main theme of life and > > remedies > > > for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this before? Rudra- abhisheka > > and > > > worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra (surya is neecha in > > navamsa), > > > is required for atleast 40 days. > > > > > > Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joined Mangal > > and > > > Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes the person very > > > emotional to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy. However > > because Moon > > > is in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a spiritual direction > > rather > > > than catching her in an endless limbo of distress. This will > > manifest in a > > > greater way, in the last part of her life. > > > > > > Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer Narayana dasa, to > > show the > > > exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from 97-03, and though > > being > > > lorded by Shukra, wasn't conducive towards marriage. However, she > > underwent > > > a great change in life during this time. > > > > > > Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu, > > which will > > > again present her with opportunities to marry. Here i do see her > > marrying, > > > before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it will be > > through the > > > determination of Saturn (elders) who will push her towards > > marrying. It > > > would be in the latter half of the dasa (06-08), where the results > > of > > > lordship will be given. Further details require the navamsa to be > > rectified. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > > 17 November 2005 07:25 > > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > > > > > > > II Hare Ram Krishna II > > > > > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Attached please find the chart of an unmarried female native who > > was born on > > > 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of tezpur,Assam, India. Though > > you > > > might have gone through once and suggested a mantra too. Nothing > > came out so > > > far and their parents are still struggling for her suitable matching > > > partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the time of marriage but > > no hope > > > of materialising the event. > > > > > > I have different opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I found your > > comment > > > on the preceding chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As you > > mentioned the > > > combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th house to remain the > > native as > > > bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing factor of Jup. in this > > chart. > > > Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and Navamsa lagna is occupied > > by its 7th > > > lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of Sat. > > > > > > Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delay but > > not deny > > > the marriage. Now the problem arises if it delays then how long ? > > What is > > > the method to reach up to the nearest time. The native is now 34+ > > and > > > present Dasa running is that of Mer/Ven. Mercury is involved with > > 7th house > > > in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord Venus is natural karak for > > marriage. Though > > > it is debilitated in rasi but has improved in D9 so this planet > > also may > > > give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his blessings to Venus. But > > the fact is > > > native is still unmarried. > > > > > > You may find the similar situation in the attached chart. Hence I > > request > > > you humbly to analyse the marriage and its sustenance area . You > > may take > > > your own time. I have found the non-marital status but unable to > > tell her > > > parents. I want your readings and confirmation for the sake of my > > knowledge. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, the person > > lives > > > like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the person will > > also > > > attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle. > > > > > > In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem is the > > type of > > > work the person does. > > > > > > > > > > > > To clear this up the best remedy is fasting on days of the upapada, > > i.e. > > > Fridays in this case. This way the person will get the best > > proposals and > > > will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for your perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, you must > > reconcile > > > with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the work and lifestyle is > > the > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw. Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. A person > > has come > > > to you for help. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani > > > 14 November 2005 23:19 > > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Sonali, > > > I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be Saturn's aspect > > on the 7H > > > and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a diamond may not be > > the best > > > thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on Fridays and to seek > > > blessings for ma Lakshmi. > > > Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L placement in 10H may > > show > > > excessive focus on career as one of the reasons for delay! > > Ironically the > > > activity that brings the spouse is also the career as Saturn is 6L > > and 7L > > > too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed sign, so the spouse > > may be > > > from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may actually be > > instrumental in > > > bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H may show love > > marriage. > > > You are likely to have had some serious relationships! ULL in 2H > > may show > > > marrying a person who was married before! > > > Best Wishes, > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of sonalinigam28 > > > Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AM > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > Hello guruji > > > > > > Please tell me when I will get married and why is so delay is > > happening in > > > my marriage?will i get married or not and what are the remedies i > > can do? > > > > > > My details are > > > > > > date of birth - 14th september 1971 > > > place of birth - delhi > > > time of birth - 05:35 am > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------- ---- > > ~--> Join > > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and > > healing > > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > > > ------------------------------ ----- > > ~-> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > Enjoy this Diwali with Y! 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Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sonali, Namaskar I’m only one astrologer and there are so many charts which come to me. Atleast sometimes my colleagues and students help with the charts and answers. There was one astrologer who supervised this discussion. He should answer your querry regarding the ‘final prediction’. Also that astrologer should understand the particular problem present in your horoscope and advise you regarding gemstones. I.e. if Saturn was a problem, then you should not wear blue sapphire. I hope that other astrologer (i think ramesh) will help you out. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">sonalinigam28 [sonalinigam28 ] 02 December 2005 08:09 [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Hello vistiji i was not able to understand all can u please tell I am presently wearing6 ¼ ratti emerald in Silver in left hand's little finger.Over 5 ratti white sapphire in Silver with small yellow dot (kesaria safed pukhraj) in ring finger of left hand. One 3 1/4 ratti Blue sapphire in Gold in middle finger of right hand and what should i wear? second i did not understood all this will i get married and when can i have? what are the remedies i do? Thanks guruji Sonali , "vinaypatwardhan" <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Pranam Visti ji, > > Many thanks for explaining the principles. > > Regarding mars , yes I know that point but want your explanation about > it's bodhaka role to sun. Or am I streching? > > Secondly regarding Sat I've observed in 2 charts with Sat in 9th, that > one lost his partner and still leading bachelors life. Second case > have Sat+moon in 9th and engagement is done but ultimately marrigae > doesn't take place. Unfortunately these are 2nd from UL as well. So > now shall we have to move to 8th from UL to see next partner or have > to continue with same UL ? I think this is serious relationship and > it's comes to an end so have to move to 8th from UL. Am I correct? > > Secondly significance of 3rd as requirement is still not clear. What > about 4th and 6th house? Or you mean to say exactly reverse? Like for > parakrama (3rd) intellegince is required. For knowledge (4th) dhan, or > samskaras is required, for dharma to follow marriage is required, to > meake friends in life Dharma (ideals) is vital, to enhance intellect > gains or even astrology is required!! Like way... Or it's like pairs? > > One more thing you have mentioned malefics in upachaya are good but > i.e. from Lagna. Now my little understanding is, basically upachaya is > growth and 3rd shows mithuna or copulation (again mars comes into > picture, strength in general required) Now malefics in 3rd from 7th > house shows excessive growth of copulation (3rd) desires(of 7th H) > Hence causing fall in dharma. Which will affect lagna (sun) and paka > lagna (jup) both !! and detrimental to them . Is there any thing which > I'm missing? > > Your guideline is very much required. Keep guiding me. > > With Pranam, > Vinay P , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Vinay, Namaskar > > > > Nice understanding. > > > > Venus controls virya; this is what Parasara says, and a strong Venus > will > > make the person very picky about whom they spend their virya on, > whilst a > > weak venus is indiscriminte in nature. Thats why a strong Venus is also > > called Brighu. > > > > Mars on the other hand just doesn't wanto enter life of a > householder, and > > thus will obstruct the marriage. This wasn't the main point of your > mail, > > but i wanted to mention it. > > > > Saturn hates the Sun and debilitates Jupiter... so i'm sure the > problem is > > both ways. Even Rahu isn't too fond of either of Sun and Jupiter, > but mainly > > Saturn is afflicting the dharma of Surya whilst Rahu is affecting > the bhagya > > of Guru. > > > > As for ninth house; One reason you gave was from the Gita - this is > > accepted. > > > > The other was regarding upachaya... whilst this is true, you need to > be more > > clear, because Parasara states that malefics are good in upachaya. > Keep in > > mind that he is talking about the upachaya from lagna. Also we are just > > talking about one of these upachaya bhavas, namely the third house. > > > > See the third house from ANY house, indicates 'that which is > required' for > > the house. E.g. Fifth house shows children, and you cannot have children > > without sex, so seventh house (third from fifth) is required. > Similarly the > > seventh house indicates marriage, and you cannot marry without dharma; > > without dharma there would be no laws and thus no marriage, so ninth > house > > (third from seventh) is required for this. > > > > If planets like Saturn and Rahu are in the ninth, then dharma is low > and we > > need to strengthen the dharma through certain means. Usually by just > > increasing the significations of the ninth house, i.e. Gayatri mantra, > > Yellow Stone or Red Stone, etc. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of vinaypatwardhan > > 19 November 2005 11:50 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please help) > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Pranam Visti ji, > > > > Sorry to but in, but want to celar out my understandings and may my > > little contribution enhance my comprehension. > > > > First of all we consider the 9th house as Dharma and gains from > > Dharma are to be seen in 7th (11th to 9th). Secondly 9th is upachaya > > to 7th (physical relationships)controlling the growth of 7th. So both > > contribute to each other. > > Famous Gita quote is corruption of woman is first sign of fall in > > dharma. > > > > Now regarding Sat and mars :- > > > > Sun is the karka of Dharma (we get through father) and guru , friend > > of sun, contributes by giving progeny. Now Sat is enemy of sun and is > > karka of 8th (widowhood/break in relationships)hence placed in > > 9th ,dominate his significations. Plus being manda obstructs the > > growth of dharma and control over delay. > > > > Where as in case of mars, mars controls the Viirya and try to > > maintain brahmacharya and being bodhaka to sun, try to enhance the > > brahmacharya for growth of dharma and his role enemy of venus, > > creates obstacles in vivaha. > > > > These are my little understandings and looking for your suggestions > > and guidelines. > > > > Does bhagya gets ruined by Sat or Dharma ? As jup is significator of > > Bhagya and sun for Dharma.And Sat us neutral to Jup but dire enemy to > > sun?? Am I thinking correct? > > > > With Pranam, > > > > Vinay > > > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > Always remember the context. Saturn in ninth can delay marriage > > because he > > > is ruining the bhagya. Mars in seventh can delay the marriage > > because he is > > > denying the conjugal happiness. > > > > > > The question is now: Why is ninth house important for marriage? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > > 19 November 2005 06:11 > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please > > help) > > > > > > > > > > > > II Hare Ram Krishna II > > > > > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam, > > > > > > A lot of thanks for replying the mail. Your reply has confused me > > betwwen > > > the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing to the delay of > > marriage. There > > > significations are quite different yet you have said about the > > Saturn that > > > it can delay and can never delay the marriage too. You have quoted > > the > > > examples of three charts. So let me prepare the reply well for > > further > > > continuation of discussion.I write to you in next days.Due to time > > > constraint I am unable to devote myself on the net. > > > > > > However I respect you as my GURU whether u consider me as a > > disciple or not. > > > > > > In the case of my female chart you have estimated the year of 2008 > > which is > > > also doubtfull because I am looking this chart as non-marital > > status. Reason > > > is well clear. So let me hope for the best. > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > A long and clarifying note this time. > > > > > > First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a > > bachelor, > > > but i never said that the person will remain that way. In my > > previous mail i > > > elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the > > person out of > > > this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified that > > the > > > problem is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars > > have plenty > > > of lovers, but because of their world-view, they may be delaying > > marriage. > > > > > > Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has > > delayed > > > marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house > > has not > > > delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on the seventh > > which can > > > delay marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Mars to > > keep one in > > > the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja > > dosha. Btw. > > > Mars' natural year is 28. Now see below. > > > > > > Examples: > > > > > > Male Native 1: > > > October 11, 1973 > > > Time: 20:40:30 > > > Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00" > > > > > > Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and > > Saturn is > > > NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person > > married after > > > his 28th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31. > > > > > > Male Native 2: > > > August 7, 1963 > > > Time: 21:15:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00" > > > Sambalpur, India > > > > > > In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming > > the Kuja > > > dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting > > the lord > > > Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is > > however > > > aspecting the seventh house, and the person married in the age of > > Mars, > > > namely 28th year. > > > > > > Female Native 1: > > > > > > August 3, 1974 > > > Time: 19:58:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" > > > Delhi, India > > > > > > In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being > > in the > > > seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the > > sixth > > > house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is > > placed. This > > > native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars > > in the > > > seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the > > person > > > married around 21/22. It was however in the natives 28th year that > > the > > > marriage fell apart. > > > > > > So in these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is not delaying > > marriage. In > > > the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not > > influence. In > > > the last case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did have aspect > > on the > > > seventh. > > > > > > But this doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If > > Saturn or > > > Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay > > marriage, because > > > the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya and > > karaka for > > > bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have > > here. > > > This is another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the > > Bhagavad > > > Gita: "adharmabhibhavat krsna...". > > > > > > The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after > > which the > > > graha has matured and the native has the opportunity to marry. > > Similarly if > > > Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelor life- > > style > > > (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-up to > > smell the > > > sweet scent of married life. > > > > > > Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which > > basically > > > is mars' graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the > > delay upto > > > 28th year. > > > > > > These are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and since marriage > > is a > > > natural phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is > > using the > > > naisargika dasa! > > > > > > But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage. > > Among the > > > kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four > > planets are in > > > a kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya > > yoga is > > > formed. People with such yogas will usually delay marriage until > > the age of > > > the strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will not accept > > marriage > > > as a true manifestation of love, or will generally not believe in > > marriage. > > > > > > In the chart that you have given, four planets are in the tenth > > house, and > > > are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that for some time, the > > native will > > > not believe in marriage, and also the partners she meets (upapada) > > will > > > share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest graha and will be the > > main cause - > > > ego. Could you clarify this persons relation to their father - > > dvadasamsa > > > has surya in the twelfth house, which shows that the father is not > > present > > > in the natives life. > > > > > > Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the main theme of life and > > remedies > > > for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this before? Rudra- abhisheka > > and > > > worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra (surya is neecha in > > navamsa), > > > is required for atleast 40 days. > > > > > > Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joined Mangal > > and > > > Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes the person very > > > emotional to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy. However > > because Moon > > > is in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a spiritual direction > > rather > > > than catching her in an endless limbo of distress. This will > > manifest in a > > > greater way, in the last part of her life. > > > > > > Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer Narayana dasa, to > > show the > > > exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from 97-03, and though > > being > > > lorded by Shukra, wasn't conducive towards marriage. However, she > > underwent > > > a great change in life during this time. > > > > > > Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu, > > which will > > > again present her with opportunities to marry. Here i do see her > > marrying, > > > before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it will be > > through the > > > determination of Saturn (elders) who will push her towards > > marrying. It > > > would be in the latter half of the dasa (06-08), where the results > > of > > > lordship will be given. Further details require the navamsa to be > > rectified. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > > 17 November 2005 07:25 > > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > > > > > > > II Hare Ram Krishna II > > > > > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Attached please find the chart of an unmarried female native who > > was born on > > > 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of tezpur,Assam, India. Though > > you > > > might have gone through once and suggested a mantra too. Nothing > > came out so > > > far and their parents are still struggling for her suitable matching > > > partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the time of marriage but > > no hope > > > of materialising the event. > > > > > > I have different opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I found your > > comment > > > on the preceding chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As you > > mentioned the > > > combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th house to remain the > > native as > > > bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing factor of Jup. in this > > chart. > > > Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and Navamsa lagna is occupied > > by its 7th > > > lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of Sat. > > > > > > Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delay but > > not deny > > > the marriage. Now the problem arises if it delays then how long ? > > What is > > > the method to reach up to the nearest time. The native is now 34+ > > and > > > present Dasa running is that of Mer/Ven. Mercury is involved with > > 7th house > > > in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord Venus is natural karak for > > marriage. Though > > > it is debilitated in rasi but has improved in D9 so this planet > > also may > > > give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his blessings to Venus. But > > the fact is > > > native is still unmarried. > > > > > > You may find the similar situation in the attached chart. Hence I > > request > > > you humbly to analyse the marriage and its sustenance area . You > > may take > > > your own time. I have found the non-marital status but unable to > > tell her > > > parents. I want your readings and confirmation for the sake of my > > knowledge. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, the person > > lives > > > like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the person will > > also > > > attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle. > > > > > > In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem is the > > type of > > > work the person does. > > > > > > > > > > > > To clear this up the best remedy is fasting on days of the upapada, > > i.e. > > > Fridays in this case. This way the person will get the best > > proposals and > > > will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for your perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, you must > > reconcile > > > with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the work and lifestyle is > > the > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw. Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. A person > > has come > > > to you for help. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani > > > 14 November 2005 23:19 > > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Sonali, > > > I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be Saturn's aspect > > on the 7H > > > and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a diamond may not be > > the best > > > thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on Fridays and to seek > > > blessings for ma Lakshmi. > > > Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L placement in 10H may > > show > > > excessive focus on career as one of the reasons for delay! > > Ironically the > > > activity that brings the spouse is also the career as Saturn is 6L > > and 7L > > > too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed sign, so the spouse > > may be > > > from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may actually be > > instrumental in > > > bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H may show love > > marriage. > > > You are likely to have had some serious relationships! 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sonali, I had attempted your chart earlier. Visti was kind enough to guide me, hope he continues to do so. Mercury and Saturn are malefic for Leo lagna and hence their gemstones (Emerald and Blue Sapphire respectively) should not be worn. Saturn as pointed out by Visti is also the cause for delay. I am not familiar with 'Kesaria safed Pukhraj with yellow dot' and hence would not like to recommend. Fasting on Friday (Sunrise to Sunset) was a recommendation supported by Visti, please start that asap. I had also recommended praying to ma lakshmi to strengthen Venus. Sun's progression techniques shows marriage likely after completion of 36 yrs. Narayana dasa shows likely period Jan 08- Sep 08 (Cap-Gemini D9) . Vimsottari dasa will be that of Mercury-Sun. Mercury cancels debilitation of Venus and Sun is your Lagna lord placed in own house, conjoint with Mercury. Best Wishes, Ramesh [] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenFriday, December 02, 2005 2:45 AMTo: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sonali, Namaskar I’m only one astrologer and there are so many charts which come to me. Atleast sometimes my colleagues and students help with the charts and answers. There was one astrologer who supervised this discussion. He should answer your querry regarding the ‘final prediction’. Also that astrologer should understand the particular problem present in your horoscope and advise you regarding gemstones. I.e. if Saturn was a problem, then you should not wear blue sapphire. I hope that other astrologer (i think ramesh) will help you out. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sonalinigam28 [sonalinigam28 ] 02 December 2005 08:09Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji Hello vistijii was not able to understand all can u please tellI am presently wearing6 ¼ ratti emerald in Silver in left hand'slittle finger.Over 5 ratti white sapphire in Silver with smallyellow dot (kesaria safed pukhraj) in ring finger of left hand.One 3 1/4 ratti Blue sapphire in Gold in middle finger of righthand and what should i wear?second i did not understood all this will i get married and when cani have? what are the remedies i do?Thanks gurujiSonali, "vinaypatwardhan"<patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>> Pranam Visti ji,>> Many thanks for explaining the principles.>> Regarding mars , yes I know that point but want your explanationabout> it's bodhaka role to sun. Or am I streching?>> Secondly regarding Sat I've observed in 2 charts with Sat in 9th,that> one lost his partner and still leading bachelors life. Second case> have Sat+moon in 9th and engagement is done but ultimately marrigae> doesn't take place. Unfortunately these are 2nd from UL as well. So> now shall we have to move to 8th from UL to see next partner orhave> to continue with same UL ? I think this is serious relationship and> it's comes to an end so have to move to 8th from UL. Am I correct?>> Secondly significance of 3rd as requirement is still not clear.What> about 4th and 6th house? Or you mean to say exactly reverse? Likefor> parakrama (3rd) intellegince is required. For knowledge (4th)dhan, or> samskaras is required, for dharma to follow marriage is required,to> meake friends in life Dharma (ideals) is vital, to enhanceintellect> gains or even astrology is required!! Like way... Or it's likepairs?>> One more thing you have mentioned malefics in upachaya are good but> i.e. from Lagna. Now my little understanding is, basicallyupachaya is> growth and 3rd shows mithuna or copulation (again mars comes into> picture, strength in general required) Now malefics in 3rd from 7th> house shows excessive growth of copulation (3rd) desires(of 7th H)> Hence causing fall in dharma. Which will affect lagna (sun) andpaka> lagna (jup) both !! and detrimental to them . Is there any thingwhich> I'm missing?>> Your guideline is very much required. Keep guiding me.>> With Pranam,> Vinay P>>>>>>> --- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>wrote:> >> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >> > Dear Vinay, Namaskar> >> > Nice understanding.> >> > Venus controls virya; this is what Parasara says, and a strongVenus> will> > make the person very picky about whom they spend their virya on,> whilst a> > weak venus is indiscriminte in nature. Thats why a strong Venusis also> > called Brighu.> >> > Mars on the other hand just doesn't wanto enter life of a> householder, and> > thus will obstruct the marriage. This wasn't the main point ofyour> mail,> > but i wanted to mention it.> >> > Saturn hates the Sun and debilitates Jupiter... so i'm sure the> problem is> > both ways. Even Rahu isn't too fond of either of Sun and Jupiter,> but mainly> > Saturn is afflicting the dharma of Surya whilst Rahu is affecting> the bhagya> > of Guru.> >> > As for ninth house; One reason you gave was from the Gita - thisis> > accepted.> >> > The other was regarding upachaya... whilst this is true, youneed to> be more> > clear, because Parasara states that malefics are good inupachaya.> Keep in> > mind that he is talking about the upachaya from lagna. Also weare just> > talking about one of these upachaya bhavas, namely the thirdhouse.> >> > See the third house from ANY house, indicates 'that which is> required' for> > the house. E.g. Fifth house shows children, and you cannot havechildren> > without sex, so seventh house (third from fifth) is required.> Similarly the> > seventh house indicates marriage, and you cannot marry withoutdharma;> > without dharma there would be no laws and thus no marriage, soninth> house> > (third from seventh) is required for this.> >> > If planets like Saturn and Rahu are in the ninth, then dharma islow> and we> > need to strengthen the dharma through certain means. Usually byjust> > increasing the significations of the ninth house, i.e. Gayatrimantra,> > Yellow Stone or Red Stone, etc.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > ***> >> > Visti Larsen> >> > For services and articles visit:> >> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or<http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > http://astrovisti.com> >> > ***> >> > _____> >> > > [] On> > Behalf Of vinaypatwardhan> > 19 November 2005 11:50> > To: > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriageplease help)> >> >> >> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> >> > Pranam Visti ji,> >> > Sorry to but in, but want to celar out my understandings and maymy> > little contribution enhance my comprehension.> >> > First of all we consider the 9th house as Dharma and gains from> > Dharma are to be seen in 7th (11th to 9th). Secondly 9th isupachaya> > to 7th (physical relationships)controlling the growth of 7th. Soboth> > contribute to each other.> > Famous Gita quote is corruption of woman is first sign of fallin> > dharma.> >> > Now regarding Sat and mars :-> >> > Sun is the karka of Dharma (we get through father) and guru ,friend> > of sun, contributes by giving progeny. Now Sat is enemy of sunand is> > karka of 8th (widowhood/break in relationships)hence placed in> > 9th ,dominate his significations. Plus being manda obstructs the> > growth of dharma and control over delay.> >> > Where as in case of mars, mars controls the Viirya and try to> > maintain brahmacharya and being bodhaka to sun, try to enhancethe> > brahmacharya for growth of dharma and his role enemy of venus,> > creates obstacles in vivaha.> >> > These are my little understandings and looking for yoursuggestions> > and guidelines.> >> > Does bhagya gets ruined by Sat or Dharma ? As jup issignificator of> > Bhagya and sun for Dharma.And Sat us neutral to Jup but direenemy to> > sun?? Am I thinking correct?> >> > With Pranam,> >> > Vinay> >> >> >> > --- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>> > wrote:> > >> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > >> > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar> > >> > > Always remember the context. Saturn in ninth can delaymarriage> > because he> > > is ruining the bhagya. Mars in seventh can delay the marriage> > because he is> > > denying the conjugal happiness.> > >> > > The question is now: Why is ninth house important for marriage?> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > ***> > >> > > Visti Larsen> > >> > > For services and articles visit:> > >> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or> > <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > > http://astrovisti.com> > >> > > ***> > >> > > _____> > >> > > > > [] On> > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra> > > 19 November 2005 06:11> > > To: > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriageplease> > help)> > >> > >> > >> > > II Hare Ram Krishna II> > >> > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam,> > >> > > A lot of thanks for replying the mail. Your reply has confusedme> > betwwen> > > the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing to the delay of> > marriage. There> > > significations are quite different yet you have said about the> > Saturn that> > > it can delay and can never delay the marriage too. You havequoted> > the> > > examples of three charts. So let me prepare the reply well for> > further> > > continuation of discussion.I write to you in next days.Due totime> > > constraint I am unable to devote myself on the net.> > >> > > However I respect you as my GURU whether u consider me as a> > disciple or not.> > >> > > In the case of my female chart you have estimated the year of2008> > which is> > > also doubtfull because I am looking this chart as non-marital> > status. Reason> > > is well clear. So let me hope for the best.> > >> > > Thanks and best wishes.> > >> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> > >> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > >> > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar> > >> > > A long and clarifying note this time.> > >> > > First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is livinglike a> > bachelor,> > > but i never said that the person will remain that way. In my> > previous mail i> > > elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the> > person out of> > > this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarifiedthat> > the> > > problem is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many moviestars> > have plenty> > > of lovers, but because of their world-view, they may bedelaying> > marriage.> > >> > > Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh househas> > delayed> > > marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventhhouse> > has not> > > delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on theseventh> > which can> > > delay marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Marsto> > keep one in> > > the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects ofkuja> > dosha. Btw.> > > Mars' natural year is 28. Now see below.> > >> > > Examples:> > >> > > Male Native 1:> > > October 11, 1973> > > Time: 20:40:30> > > Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00"> > >> > > Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha,and> > Saturn is> > > NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person> > married after> > > his 28th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31.> > >> > > Male Native 2:> > > August 7, 1963> > > Time: 21:15:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00"> > > Sambalpur, India> > >> > > In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again,forming> > the Kuja> > > dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but isaspecting> > the lord> > > Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact).Jupiter is> > however> > > aspecting the seventh house, and the person married in the ageof> > Mars,> > > namely 28th year.> > >> > > Female Native 1:> > >> > > August 3, 1974> > > Time: 19:58:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00"> > > Delhi, India> > >> > > In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars thoughbeing> > in the> > > seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is inthe> > sixth> > > house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is> > placed. This> > > native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay ofMars> > in the> > > seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. Sothe> > person> > > married around 21/22. It was however in the natives 28th yearthat> > the> > > marriage fell apart.> > >> > > So in these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is notdelaying> > marriage. In> > > the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not> > influence. In> > > the last case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did haveaspect> > on the> > > seventh.> > >> > > But this doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If> > Saturn or> > > Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay> > marriage, because> > > the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Suryaand> > karaka for> > > bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones tohave> > here.> > > This is another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement inthe> > Bhagavad> > > Gita: "adharmabhibhavat krsna...".> > >> > > The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after> > which the> > > graha has matured and the native has the opportunity to marry.> > Similarly if> > > Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelorlife-> > style> > > (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-upto> > smell the> > > sweet scent of married life.> > >> > > Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha(which> > basically> > > is mars' graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the> > delay upto> > > 28th year.> > >> > > These are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and sincemarriage> > is a> > > natural phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is> > using the> > > naisargika dasa!> > >> > > But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage.> > Among the> > > kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four> > planets are in> > > a kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, thenpravrajya> > yoga is> > > formed. People with such yogas will usually delay marriageuntil> > the age of> > > the strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will notaccept> > marriage> > > as a true manifestation of love, or will generally not believein> > marriage.> > >> > > In the chart that you have given, four planets are in thetenth> > house, and> > > are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that for some time,the> > native will> > > not believe in marriage, and also the partners she meets(upapada)> > will> > > share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest graha and will bethe> > main cause -> > > ego. Could you clarify this persons relation to their father -> > dvadasamsa> > > has surya in the twelfth house, which shows that the father isnot> > present> > > in the natives life.> > >> > > Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the main theme of lifeand> > remedies> > > for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this before? Rudra-abhisheka> > and> > > worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra (surya is neechain> > navamsa),> > > is required for atleast 40 days.> > >> > > Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joinedMangal> > and> > > Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes theperson very> > > emotional to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy. However> > because Moon> > > is in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a spiritualdirection> > rather> > > than catching her in an endless limbo of distress. This will> > manifest in a> > > greater way, in the last part of her life.> > >> > > Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer Narayanadasa, to> > show the> > > exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from 97-03, andthough> > being> > > lorded by Shukra, wasn't conducive towards marriage. However,she> > underwent> > > a great change in life during this time.> > >> > > Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu,> > which will> > > again present her with opportunities to marry. Here i do seeher> > marrying,> > > before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it will be> > through the> > > determination of Saturn (elders) who will push her towards> > marrying. It> > > would be in the latter half of the dasa (06-08), where theresults> > of> > > lordship will be given. Further details require the navamsa tobe> > rectified.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > ***> > >> > > Visti Larsen> > >> > > For services and articles visit:> > >> > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or> > <http://astrovisti.com/>> > > http://astrovisti.com> > >> > > ***> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >> > > > > [] On> > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra> > > 17 November 2005 07:25> > > To: > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help> > >> > >> > >> > > II Hare Ram Krishna II> > >> > > Respected Visti Guru Ji,> > >> > > Pranaam,> > >> > > Attached please find the chart of an unmarried female nativewho> > was born on> > > 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of tezpur,Assam, India.Though> > you> > > might have gone through once and suggested a mantra too.Nothing> > came out so> > > far and their parents are still struggling for her suitablematching> > > partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the time of marriagebut> > no hope> > > of materialising the event.> > >> > > I have different opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I foundyour> > comment> > > on the preceding chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As you> > mentioned the> > > combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th house to remainthe> > native as> > > bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing factor of Jup. inthis> > chart.> > > Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and Navamsa lagna isoccupied> > by its 7th> > > lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of Sat.> > >> > > Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delaybut> > not deny> > > the marriage. Now the problem arises if it delays then howlong ?> > What is> > > the method to reach up to the nearest time. The native is now34+> > and> > > present Dasa running is that of Mer/Ven. Mercury is involvedwith> > 7th house> > > in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord Venus is natural karak for> > marriage. Though> > > it is debilitated in rasi but has improved in D9 so thisplanet> > also may> > > give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his blessings to Venus.But> > the fact is> > > native is still unmarried.> > >> > > You may find the similar situation in the attached chart.Hence I> > request> > > you humbly to analyse the marriage and its sustenance area .You> > may take> > > your own time. I have found the non-marital status but unableto> > tell her> > > parents. I want your readings and confirmation for the sake ofmy> > knowledge.> > >> > > Thanks and regards.> > >> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > >> > >> > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> > >> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > >> > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar> > >> > > When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, theperson> > lives> > > like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the personwill> > also> > > attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle.> > >> > > In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem isthe> > type of> > > work the person does.> > >> > >> > >> > > To clear this up the best remedy is fasting on days of theupapada,> > i.e.> > > Fridays in this case. This way the person will get the best> > proposals and> > > will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna.> > >> > >> > >> > > As for your perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, youmust> > reconcile> > > with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the work andlifestyle is> > the> > > problem.> > >> > >> > >> > > Btw. Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. Aperson> > has come> > > to you for help.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > ***> > >> > > Visti Larsen> > >> > > For services and articles visit:> > >> > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or> > <http://astrovisti.com/>> > > http://astrovisti.com> > >> > > ***> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >> > > > > [] On> > > Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani> > > 14 November 2005 23:19> > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help> > >> > >> > >> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > >> > > Dear Sonali,> > > I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be Saturn'saspect> > on the 7H> > > and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a diamond may notbe> > the best> > > thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on Fridays andto seek> > > blessings for ma Lakshmi.> > > Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L placement in 10Hmay> > show> > > excessive focus on career as one of the reasons for delay!> > Ironically the> > > activity that brings the spouse is also the career as Saturnis 6L> > and 7L> > > too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed sign, so thespouse> > may be> > > from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may actually be> > instrumental in> > > bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H may showlove> > marriage.> > > You are likely to have had some serious relationships! ULL in2H> > may show> > > marrying a person who was married before!> > > Best Wishes,> > > Ramesh> > >> > >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----> > > > > [] On> > > Behalf Of sonalinigam28> > > Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AM> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help> > >> > > Hello guruji> > >> > > Please tell me when I will get married and why is so delay is> > happening in> > > my marriage?will i get married or not and what are theremedies i> > can do?> > >> > > My details are> > >> > > date of birth - 14th september 1971> > > place of birth - delhi> > > time of birth - 05:35 am> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > > Sonali> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------> > ~--> Join> > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hopeand> > healing> > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM> > > --> > ~->> > >> > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare RamaKrishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great whosaid> > that the> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart> > reading today> > > Groups Links> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >> > > Enjoy this Diwali with Y! 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sonali, Namaskar Just a side note. Keep the emerald, it will give you succes, and follow the rest of Ramesh’s advise. But, when you have found someone to share your life with seriously, take of the emerald until one year of marriage has passed...emeralds aren’t good for lasting relationships. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com bookman;color:#993366"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Ramesh F. Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com] 02 December 2005 21:08 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji 12.0pt"> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat 12.0pt"> Dear Sonali, 12.0pt"> I had attempted your chart earlier. Visti was kind enough to guide me, hope he continues to do so. 12.0pt"> Mercury and Saturn are malefic for Leo lagna and hence their gemstones (Emerald and Blue Sapphire respectively) should not be worn. Saturn as pointed out by Visti is also the cause for delay. I am not familiar with 'Kesaria safed Pukhraj with yellow dot' and hence would not like to recommend. Fasting on Friday (Sunrise to Sunset) was a recommendation supported by Visti, please start that asap. I had also recommended praying to ma lakshmi to strengthen Venus. 12.0pt"> Sun's progression techniques shows marriage likely after completion of 36 yrs. Narayana dasa shows likely period Jan 08- Sep 08 (Cap-Gemini D9) . Vimsottari dasa will be that of Mercury-Sun. Mercury cancels debilitation of Venus and Sun is your Lagna lord placed in own house, conjoint with Mercury. 12.0pt"> Best Wishes, bold">Ramesh 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> [] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, December 02, 2005 2:45 AM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sonali, Namaskar I’m only one astrologer and there are so many charts which come to me. Atleast sometimes my colleagues and students help with the charts and answers. There was one astrologer who supervised this discussion. He should answer your querry regarding the ‘final prediction’. Also that astrologer should understand the particular problem present in your horoscope and advise you regarding gemstones. I.e. if Saturn was a problem, then you should not wear blue sapphire. I hope that other astrologer (i think ramesh) will help you out. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">sonalinigam28 [sonalinigam28 ] 02 December 2005 08:09 [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji 12.0pt"> Hello vistiji i was not able to understand all can u please tell I am presently wearing6 ¼ ratti emerald in Silver in left hand's little finger.Over 5 ratti white sapphire in Silver with small yellow dot (kesaria safed pukhraj) in ring finger of left hand. One 3 1/4 ratti Blue sapphire in Gold in middle finger of right hand and what should i wear? second i did not understood all this will i get married and when can i have? what are the remedies i do? Thanks guruji Sonali , "vinaypatwardhan" <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Pranam Visti ji, > > Many thanks for explaining the principles. > > Regarding mars , yes I know that point but want your explanation about > it's bodhaka role to sun. Or am I streching? > > Secondly regarding Sat I've observed in 2 charts with Sat in 9th, that > one lost his partner and still leading bachelors life. Second case > have Sat+moon in 9th and engagement is done but ultimately marrigae > doesn't take place. Unfortunately these are 2nd from UL as well. So > now shall we have to move to 8th from UL to see next partner or have > to continue with same UL ? I think this is serious relationship and > it's comes to an end so have to move to 8th from UL. Am I correct? > > Secondly significance of 3rd as requirement is still not clear. What > about 4th and 6th house? Or you mean to say exactly reverse? Like for > parakrama (3rd) intellegince is required. For knowledge (4th) dhan, or > samskaras is required, for dharma to follow marriage is required, to > meake friends in life Dharma (ideals) is vital, to enhance intellect > gains or even astrology is required!! Like way... Or it's like pairs? > > One more thing you have mentioned malefics in upachaya are good but > i.e. from Lagna. Now my little understanding is, basically upachaya is > growth and 3rd shows mithuna or copulation (again mars comes into > picture, strength in general required) Now malefics in 3rd from 7th > house shows excessive growth of copulation (3rd) desires(of 7th H) > Hence causing fall in dharma. Which will affect lagna (sun) and paka > lagna (jup) both !! and detrimental to them . Is there any thing which > I'm missing? > > Your guideline is very much required. Keep guiding me. > > With Pranam, > Vinay P , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Vinay, Namaskar > > > > Nice understanding. > > > > Venus controls virya; this is what Parasara says, and a strong Venus > will > > make the person very picky about whom they spend their virya on, > whilst a > > weak venus is indiscriminte in nature. Thats why a strong Venus is also > > called Brighu. > > > > Mars on the other hand just doesn't wanto enter life of a > householder, and > > thus will obstruct the marriage. This wasn't the main point of your > mail, > > but i wanted to mention it. > > > > Saturn hates the Sun and debilitates Jupiter... so i'm sure the > problem is > > both ways. Even Rahu isn't too fond of either of Sun and Jupiter, > but mainly > > Saturn is afflicting the dharma of Surya whilst Rahu is affecting > the bhagya > > of Guru. > > > > As for ninth house; One reason you gave was from the Gita - this is > > accepted. > > > > The other was regarding upachaya... whilst this is true, you need to > be more > > clear, because Parasara states that malefics are good in upachaya. > Keep in > > mind that he is talking about the upachaya from lagna. Also we are just > > talking about one of these upachaya bhavas, namely the third house. > > > > See the third house from ANY house, indicates 'that which is > required' for > > the house. E.g. Fifth house shows children, and you cannot have children > > without sex, so seventh house (third from fifth) is required. > Similarly the > > seventh house indicates marriage, and you cannot marry without dharma; > > without dharma there would be no laws and thus no marriage, so ninth > house > > (third from seventh) is required for this. > > > > If planets like Saturn and Rahu are in the ninth, then dharma is low > and we > > need to strengthen the dharma through certain means. Usually by just > > increasing the significations of the ninth house, i.e. Gayatri mantra, > > Yellow Stone or Red Stone, etc. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of vinaypatwardhan > > 19 November 2005 11:50 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please help) > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Pranam Visti ji, > > > > Sorry to but in, but want to celar out my understandings and may my > > little contribution enhance my comprehension. > > > > First of all we consider the 9th house as Dharma and gains from > > Dharma are to be seen in 7th (11th to 9th). Secondly 9th is upachaya > > to 7th (physical relationships)controlling the growth of 7th. So both > > contribute to each other. > > Famous Gita quote is corruption of woman is first sign of fall in > > dharma. > > > > Now regarding Sat and mars :- > > > > Sun is the karka of Dharma (we get through father) and guru , friend > > of sun, contributes by giving progeny. Now Sat is enemy of sun and is > > karka of 8th (widowhood/break in relationships)hence placed in > > 9th ,dominate his significations. Plus being manda obstructs the > > growth of dharma and control over delay. > > > > Where as in case of mars, mars controls the Viirya and try to > > maintain brahmacharya and being bodhaka to sun, try to enhance the > > brahmacharya for growth of dharma and his role enemy of venus, > > creates obstacles in vivaha. > > > > These are my little understandings and looking for your suggestions > > and guidelines. > > > > Does bhagya gets ruined by Sat or Dharma ? As jup is significator of > > Bhagya and sun for Dharma.And Sat us neutral to Jup but dire enemy to > > sun?? Am I thinking correct? > > > > With Pranam, > > > > Vinay > > > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > Always remember the context. Saturn in ninth can delay marriage > > because he > > > is ruining the bhagya. Mars in seventh can delay the marriage > > because he is > > > denying the conjugal happiness. > > > > > > The question is now: Why is ninth house important for marriage? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > > 19 November 2005 06:11 > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please > > help) > > > > > > > > > > > > II Hare Ram Krishna II > > > > > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam, > > > > > > A lot of thanks for replying the mail. Your reply has confused me > > betwwen > > > the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing to the delay of > > marriage. There > > > significations are quite different yet you have said about the > > Saturn that > > > it can delay and can never delay the marriage too. You have quoted > > the > > > examples of three charts. So let me prepare the reply well for > > further > > > continuation of discussion.I write to you in next days.Due to time > > > constraint I am unable to devote myself on the net. > > > > > > However I respect you as my GURU whether u consider me as a > > disciple or not. > > > > > > In the case of my female chart you have estimated the year of 2008 > > which is > > > also doubtfull because I am looking this chart as non-marital > > status. Reason > > > is well clear. So let me hope for the best. > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > A long and clarifying note this time. > > > > > > First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a > > bachelor, > > > but i never said that the person will remain that way. In my > > previous mail i > > > elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the > > person out of > > > this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified that > > the > > > problem is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars > > have plenty > > > of lovers, but because of their world-view, they may be delaying > > marriage. > > > > > > Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has > > delayed > > > marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house > > has not > > > delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on the seventh > > which can > > > delay marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Mars to > > keep one in > > > the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja > > dosha. Btw. > > > Mars' natural year is 28. Now see below. > > > > > > Examples: > > > > > > Male Native 1: > > > October 11, 1973 > > > Time: 20:40:30 > > > Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00" > > > > > > Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and > > Saturn is > > > NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person > > married after > > > his 28th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31. > > > > > > Male Native 2: > > > August 7, 1963 > > > Time: 21:15:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00" > > > Sambalpur, India > > > > > > In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming > > the Kuja > > > dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting > > the lord > > > Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is > > however > > > aspecting the seventh house, and the person married in the age of > > Mars, > > > namely 28th year. > > > > > > Female Native 1: > > > > > > August 3, 1974 > > > Time: 19:58:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" > > > Delhi, India > > > > > > In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being > > in the > > > seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the > > sixth > > > house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is > > placed. This > > > native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars > > in the > > > seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the > > person > > > married around 21/22. It was however in the natives 28th year that > > the > > > marriage fell apart. > > > > > > So in these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is not delaying > > marriage. In > > > the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not > > influence. In > > > the last case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did have aspect > > on the > > > seventh. > > > > > > But this doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If > > Saturn or > > > Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay > > marriage, because > > > the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya and > > karaka for > > > bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have > > here. > > > This is another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the > > Bhagavad > > > Gita: "adharmabhibhavat krsna...". > > > > > > The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after > > which the > > > graha has matured and the native has the opportunity to marry. > > Similarly if > > > Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelor life- > > style > > > (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-up to > > smell the > > > sweet scent of married life. > > > > > > Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which > > basically > > > is mars' graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the > > delay upto > > > 28th year. > > > > > > These are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and since marriage > > is a > > > natural phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is > > using the > > > naisargika dasa! > > > > > > But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage. > > Among the > > > kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four > > planets are in > > > a kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya > > yoga is > > > formed. People with such yogas will usually delay marriage until > > the age of > > > the strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will not accept > > marriage > > > as a true manifestation of love, or will generally not believe in > > marriage. > > > > > > In the chart that you have given, four planets are in the tenth > > house, and > > > are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that for some time, the > > native will > > > not believe in marriage, and also the partners she meets (upapada) > > will > > > share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest graha and will be the > > main cause - > > > ego. Could you clarify this persons relation to their father - > > dvadasamsa > > > has surya in the twelfth house, which shows that the father is not > > present > > > in the natives life. > > > > > > Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the main theme of life and > > remedies > > > for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this before? Rudra- abhisheka > > and > > > worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra (surya is neecha in > > navamsa), > > > is required for atleast 40 days. > > > > > > Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joined Mangal > > and > > > Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes the person very > > > emotional to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy. However > > because Moon > > > is in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a spiritual direction > > rather > > > than catching her in an endless limbo of distress. This will > > manifest in a > > > greater way, in the last part of her life. > > > > > > Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer Narayana dasa, to > > show the > > > exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from 97-03, and though > > being > > > lorded by Shukra, wasn't conducive towards marriage. However, she > > underwent > > > a great change in life during this time. > > > > > > Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu, > > which will > > > again present her with opportunities to marry. Here i do see her > > marrying, > > > before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it will be > > through the > > > determination of Saturn (elders) who will push her towards > > marrying. It > > > would be in the latter half of the dasa (06-08), where the results > > of > > > lordship will be given. Further details require the navamsa to be > > rectified. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > > 17 November 2005 07:25 > > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > > > > > > > II Hare Ram Krishna II > > > > > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Attached please find the chart of an unmarried female native who > > was born on > > > 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of tezpur,Assam, India. Though > > you > > > might have gone through once and suggested a mantra too. Nothing > > came out so > > > far and their parents are still struggling for her suitable matching > > > partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the time of marriage but > > no hope > > > of materialising the event. > > > > > > I have different opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I found your > > comment > > > on the preceding chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As you > > mentioned the > > > combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th house to remain the > > native as > > > bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing factor of Jup. in this > > chart. > > > Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and Navamsa lagna is occupied > > by its 7th > > > lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of Sat. > > > > > > Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delay but > > not deny > > > the marriage. Now the problem arises if it delays then how long ? > > What is > > > the method to reach up to the nearest time. The native is now 34+ > > and > > > present Dasa running is that of Mer/Ven. Mercury is involved with > > 7th house > > > in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord Venus is natural karak for > > marriage. Though > > > it is debilitated in rasi but has improved in D9 so this planet > > also may > > > give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his blessings to Venus. But > > the fact is > > > native is still unmarried. > > > > > > You may find the similar situation in the attached chart. Hence I > > request > > > you humbly to analyse the marriage and its sustenance area . You > > may take > > > your own time. I have found the non-marital status but unable to > > tell her > > > parents. I want your readings and confirmation for the sake of my > > knowledge. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, the person > > lives > > > like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the person will > > also > > > attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle. > > > > > > In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem is the > > type of > > > work the person does. > > > > > > > > > > > > To clear this up the best remedy is fasting on days of the upapada, > > i.e. > > > Fridays in this case. This way the person will get the best > > proposals and > > > will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for your perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, you must > > reconcile > > > with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the work and lifestyle is > > the > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw. Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. A person > > has come > > > to you for help. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani > > > 14 November 2005 23:19 > > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Sonali, > > > I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be Saturn's aspect > > on the 7H > > > and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a diamond may not be > > the best > > > thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on Fridays and to seek > > > blessings for ma Lakshmi. > > > Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L placement in 10H may > > show > > > excessive focus on career as one of the reasons for delay! > > Ironically the > > > activity that brings the spouse is also the career as Saturn is 6L > > and 7L > > > too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed sign, so the spouse > > may be > > > from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may actually be > > instrumental in > > > bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H may show love > > marriage. > > > You are likely to have had some serious relationships! 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Sanjayji in his recent lecture in Delhi on Sambandha explained the logic for his recommending Red Coral to late Prime Minister Narasimha Rao. He explained that in case of yoga in kendra or trikona, between (functional!) benefic and malefic, malefic would turn benefic and visa-versa. Is that the reason for recommending emerald in this case for now? Best Wishes, Ramesh [] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenFriday, December 02, 2005 3:18 PMTo: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sonali, Namaskar Just a side note. Keep the emerald, it will give you succes, and follow the rest of Ramesh’s advise. But, when you have found someone to share your life with seriously, take of the emerald until one year of marriage has passed...emeralds aren’t good for lasting relationships. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** Ramesh F. Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com] 02 December 2005 21:08Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sonali, I had attempted your chart earlier. Visti was kind enough to guide me, hope he continues to do so. Mercury and Saturn are malefic for Leo lagna and hence their gemstones (Emerald and Blue Sapphire respectively) should not be worn. Saturn as pointed out by Visti is also the cause for delay. I am not familiar with 'Kesaria safed Pukhraj with yellow dot' and hence would not like to recommend. Fasting on Friday (Sunrise to Sunset) was a recommendation supported by Visti, please start that asap. I had also recommended praying to ma lakshmi to strengthen Venus. Sun's progression techniques shows marriage likely after completion of 36 yrs. Narayana dasa shows likely period Jan 08- Sep 08 (Cap-Gemini D9) . Vimsottari dasa will be that of Mercury-Sun. Mercury cancels debilitation of Venus and Sun is your Lagna lord placed in own house, conjoint with Mercury. Best Wishes, Ramesh [] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenFriday, December 02, 2005 2:45 AMTo: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sonali, Namaskar I’m only one astrologer and there are so many charts which come to me. Atleast sometimes my colleagues and students help with the charts and answers. There was one astrologer who supervised this discussion. He should answer your querry regarding the ‘final prediction’. Also that astrologer should understand the particular problem present in your horoscope and advise you regarding gemstones. I.e. if Saturn was a problem, then you should not wear blue sapphire. I hope that other astrologer (i think ramesh) will help you out. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sonalinigam28 [sonalinigam28 ] 02 December 2005 08:09Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji Hello vistijii was not able to understand all can u please tellI am presently wearing6 ¼ ratti emerald in Silver in left hand'slittle finger.Over 5 ratti white sapphire in Silver with smallyellow dot (kesaria safed pukhraj) in ring finger of left hand.One 3 1/4 ratti Blue sapphire in Gold in middle finger of righthand and what should i wear?second i did not understood all this will i get married and when cani have? what are the remedies i do?Thanks gurujiSonali, "vinaypatwardhan"<patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>> Pranam Visti ji,>> Many thanks for explaining the principles.>> Regarding mars , yes I know that point but want your explanationabout> it's bodhaka role to sun. Or am I streching?>> Secondly regarding Sat I've observed in 2 charts with Sat in 9th,that> one lost his partner and still leading bachelors life. Second case> have Sat+moon in 9th and engagement is done but ultimately marrigae> doesn't take place. Unfortunately these are 2nd from UL as well. So> now shall we have to move to 8th from UL to see next partner orhave> to continue with same UL ? I think this is serious relationship and> it's comes to an end so have to move to 8th from UL. Am I correct?>> Secondly significance of 3rd as requirement is still not clear.What> about 4th and 6th house? Or you mean to say exactly reverse? Likefor> parakrama (3rd) intellegince is required. For knowledge (4th)dhan, or> samskaras is required, for dharma to follow marriage is required,to> meake friends in life Dharma (ideals) is vital, to enhanceintellect> gains or even astrology is required!! Like way... Or it's likepairs?>> One more thing you have mentioned malefics in upachaya are good but> i.e. from Lagna. Now my little understanding is, basicallyupachaya is> growth and 3rd shows mithuna or copulation (again mars comes into> picture, strength in general required) Now malefics in 3rd from 7th> house shows excessive growth of copulation (3rd) desires(of 7th H)> Hence causing fall in dharma. Which will affect lagna (sun) andpaka> lagna (jup) both !! and detrimental to them . Is there any thingwhich> I'm missing?>> Your guideline is very much required. Keep guiding me.>> With Pranam,> Vinay P>>>>>>> --- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>wrote:> >> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >> > Dear Vinay, Namaskar> >> > Nice understanding.> >> > Venus controls virya; this is what Parasara says, and a strongVenus> will> > make the person very picky about whom they spend their virya on,> whilst a> > weak venus is indiscriminte in nature. Thats why a strong Venusis also> > called Brighu.> >> > Mars on the other hand just doesn't wanto enter life of a> householder, and> > thus will obstruct the marriage. This wasn't the main point ofyour> mail,> > but i wanted to mention it.> >> > Saturn hates the Sun and debilitates Jupiter... so i'm sure the> problem is> > both ways. Even Rahu isn't too fond of either of Sun and Jupiter,> but mainly> > Saturn is afflicting the dharma of Surya whilst Rahu is affecting> the bhagya> > of Guru.> >> > As for ninth house; One reason you gave was from the Gita - thisis> > accepted.> >> > The other was regarding upachaya... whilst this is true, youneed to> be more> > clear, because Parasara states that malefics are good inupachaya.> Keep in> > mind that he is talking about the upachaya from lagna. Also weare just> > talking about one of these upachaya bhavas, namely the thirdhouse.> >> > See the third house from ANY house, indicates 'that which is> required' for> > the house. E.g. Fifth house shows children, and you cannot havechildren> > without sex, so seventh house (third from fifth) is required.> Similarly the> > seventh house indicates marriage, and you cannot marry withoutdharma;> > without dharma there would be no laws and thus no marriage, soninth> house> > (third from seventh) is required for this.> >> > If planets like Saturn and Rahu are in the ninth, then dharma islow> and we> > need to strengthen the dharma through certain means. Usually byjust> > increasing the significations of the ninth house, i.e. Gayatrimantra,> > Yellow Stone or Red Stone, etc.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > ***> >> > Visti Larsen> >> > For services and articles visit:> >> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or<http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > http://astrovisti.com> >> > ***> >> > _____> >> > > [] On> > Behalf Of vinaypatwardhan> > 19 November 2005 11:50> > To: > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriageplease help)> >> >> >> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> >> > Pranam Visti ji,> >> > Sorry to but in, but want to celar out my understandings and maymy> > little contribution enhance my comprehension.> >> > First of all we consider the 9th house as Dharma and gains from> > Dharma are to be seen in 7th (11th to 9th). Secondly 9th isupachaya> > to 7th (physical relationships)controlling the growth of 7th. Soboth> > contribute to each other.> > Famous Gita quote is corruption of woman is first sign of fallin> > dharma.> >> > Now regarding Sat and mars :-> >> > Sun is the karka of Dharma (we get through father) and guru ,friend> > of sun, contributes by giving progeny. Now Sat is enemy of sunand is> > karka of 8th (widowhood/break in relationships)hence placed in> > 9th ,dominate his significations. Plus being manda obstructs the> > growth of dharma and control over delay.> >> > Where as in case of mars, mars controls the Viirya and try to> > maintain brahmacharya and being bodhaka to sun, try to enhancethe> > brahmacharya for growth of dharma and his role enemy of venus,> > creates obstacles in vivaha.> >> > These are my little understandings and looking for yoursuggestions> > and guidelines.> >> > Does bhagya gets ruined by Sat or Dharma ? As jup issignificator of> > Bhagya and sun for Dharma.And Sat us neutral to Jup but direenemy to> > sun?? Am I thinking correct?> >> > With Pranam,> >> > Vinay> >> >> >> > --- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>> > wrote:> > >> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > >> > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar> > >> > > Always remember the context. Saturn in ninth can delaymarriage> > because he> > > is ruining the bhagya. Mars in seventh can delay the marriage> > because he is> > > denying the conjugal happiness.> > >> > > The question is now: Why is ninth house important for marriage?> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > ***> > >> > > Visti Larsen> > >> > > For services and articles visit:> > >> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or> > <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > > http://astrovisti.com> > >> > > ***> > >> > > _____> > >> > > > > [] On> > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra> > > 19 November 2005 06:11> > > To: > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriageplease> > help)> > >> > >> > >> > > II Hare Ram Krishna II> > >> > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam,> > >> > > A lot of thanks for replying the mail. Your reply has confusedme> > betwwen> > > the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing to the delay of> > marriage. There> > > significations are quite different yet you have said about the> > Saturn that> > > it can delay and can never delay the marriage too. You havequoted> > the> > > examples of three charts. So let me prepare the reply well for> > further> > > continuation of discussion.I write to you in next days.Due totime> > > constraint I am unable to devote myself on the net.> > >> > > However I respect you as my GURU whether u consider me as a> > disciple or not.> > >> > > In the case of my female chart you have estimated the year of2008> > which is> > > also doubtfull because I am looking this chart as non-marital> > status. Reason> > > is well clear. So let me hope for the best.> > >> > > Thanks and best wishes.> > >> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> > >> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > >> > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar> > >> > > A long and clarifying note this time.> > >> > > First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is livinglike a> > bachelor,> > > but i never said that the person will remain that way. In my> > previous mail i> > > elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the> > person out of> > > this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarifiedthat> > the> > > problem is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many moviestars> > have plenty> > > of lovers, but because of their world-view, they may bedelaying> > marriage.> > >> > > Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh househas> > delayed> > > marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventhhouse> > has not> > > delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on theseventh> > which can> > > delay marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Marsto> > keep one in> > > the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects ofkuja> > dosha. Btw.> > > Mars' natural year is 28. Now see below.> > >> > > Examples:> > >> > > Male Native 1:> > > October 11, 1973> > > Time: 20:40:30> > > Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00"> > >> > > Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha,and> > Saturn is> > > NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person> > married after> > > his 28th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31.> > >> > > Male Native 2:> > > August 7, 1963> > > Time: 21:15:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00"> > > Sambalpur, India> > >> > > In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again,forming> > the Kuja> > > dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but isaspecting> > the lord> > > Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact).Jupiter is> > however> > > aspecting the seventh house, and the person married in the ageof> > Mars,> > > namely 28th year.> > >> > > Female Native 1:> > >> > > August 3, 1974> > > Time: 19:58:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00"> > > Delhi, India> > >> > > In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars thoughbeing> > in the> > > seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is inthe> > sixth> > > house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is> > placed. This> > > native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay ofMars> > in the> > > seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. Sothe> > person> > > married around 21/22. It was however in the natives 28th yearthat> > the> > > marriage fell apart.> > >> > > So in these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is notdelaying> > marriage. In> > > the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not> > influence. In> > > the last case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did haveaspect> > on the> > > seventh.> > >> > > But this doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If> > Saturn or> > > Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay> > marriage, because> > > the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Suryaand> > karaka for> > > bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones tohave> > here.> > > This is another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement inthe> > Bhagavad> > > Gita: "adharmabhibhavat krsna...".> > >> > > The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after> > which the> > > graha has matured and the native has the opportunity to marry.> > Similarly if> > > Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelorlife-> > style> > > (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-upto> > smell the> > > sweet scent of married life.> > >> > > Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha(which> > basically> > > is mars' graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the> > delay upto> > > 28th year.> > >> > > These are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and sincemarriage> > is a> > > natural phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is> > using the> > > naisargika dasa!> > >> > > But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage.> > Among the> > > kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four> > planets are in> > > a kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, thenpravrajya> > yoga is> > > formed. People with such yogas will usually delay marriageuntil> > the age of> > > the strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will notaccept> > marriage> > > as a true manifestation of love, or will generally not believein> > marriage.> > >> > > In the chart that you have given, four planets are in thetenth> > house, and> > > are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that for some time,the> > native will> > > not believe in marriage, and also the partners she meets(upapada)> > will> > > share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest graha and will bethe> > main cause -> > > ego. Could you clarify this persons relation to their father -> > dvadasamsa> > > has surya in the twelfth house, which shows that the father isnot> > present> > > in the natives life.> > >> > > Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the main theme of lifeand> > remedies> > > for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this before? Rudra-abhisheka> > and> > > worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra (surya is neechain> > navamsa),> > > is required for atleast 40 days.> > >> > > Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joinedMangal> > and> > > Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes theperson very> > > emotional to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy. However> > because Moon> > > is in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a spiritualdirection> > rather> > > than catching her in an endless limbo of distress. This will> > manifest in a> > > greater way, in the last part of her life.> > >> > > Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer Narayanadasa, to> > show the> > > exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from 97-03, andthough> > being> > > lorded by Shukra, wasn't conducive towards marriage. However,she> > underwent> > > a great change in life during this time.> > >> > > Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu,> > which will> > > again present her with opportunities to marry. Here i do seeher> > marrying,> > > before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it will be> > through the> > > determination of Saturn (elders) who will push her towards> > marrying. It> > > would be in the latter half of the dasa (06-08), where theresults> > of> > > lordship will be given. Further details require the navamsa tobe> > rectified.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > ***> > >> > > Visti Larsen> > >> > > For services and articles visit:> > >> > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or> > <http://astrovisti.com/>> > > http://astrovisti.com> > >> > > ***> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >> > > > > [] On> > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra> > > 17 November 2005 07:25> > > To: > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help> > >> > >> > >> > > II Hare Ram Krishna II> > >> > > Respected Visti Guru Ji,> > >> > > Pranaam,> > >> > > Attached please find the chart of an unmarried female nativewho> > was born on> > > 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of tezpur,Assam, India.Though> > you> > > might have gone through once and suggested a mantra too.Nothing> > came out so> > > far and their parents are still struggling for her suitablematching> > > partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the time of marriagebut> > no hope> > > of materialising the event.> > >> > > I have different opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I foundyour> > comment> > > on the preceding chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As you> > mentioned the> > > combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th house to remainthe> > native as> > > bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing factor of Jup. inthis> > chart.> > > Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and Navamsa lagna isoccupied> > by its 7th> > > lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of Sat.> > >> > > Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delaybut> > not deny> > > the marriage. Now the problem arises if it delays then howlong ?> > What is> > > the method to reach up to the nearest time. The native is now34+> > and> > > present Dasa running is that of Mer/Ven. Mercury is involvedwith> > 7th house> > > in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord Venus is natural karak for> > marriage. Though> > > it is debilitated in rasi but has improved in D9 so thisplanet> > also may> > > give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his blessings to Venus.But> > the fact is> > > native is still unmarried.> > >> > > You may find the similar situation in the attached chart.Hence I> > request> > > you humbly to analyse the marriage and its sustenance area .You> > may take> > > your own time. I have found the non-marital status but unableto> > tell her> > > parents. I want your readings and confirmation for the sake ofmy> > knowledge.> > >> > > Thanks and regards.> > >> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > >> > >> > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> > >> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > >> > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar> > >> > > When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, theperson> > lives> > > like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the personwill> > also> > > attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle.> > >> > > In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem isthe> > type of> > > work the person does.> > >> > >> > >> > > To clear this up the best remedy is fasting on days of theupapada,> > i.e.> > > Fridays in this case. This way the person will get the best> > proposals and> > > will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna.> > >> > >> > >> > > As for your perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, youmust> > reconcile> > > with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the work andlifestyle is> > the> > > problem.> > >> > >> > >> > > Btw. Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. Aperson> > has come> > > to you for help.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > ***> > >> > > Visti Larsen> > >> > > For services and articles visit:> > >> > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or> > <http://astrovisti.com/>> > > http://astrovisti.com> > >> > > ***> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >> > > > > [] On> > > Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani> > > 14 November 2005 23:19> > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help> > >> > >> > >> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > >> > > Dear Sonali,> > > I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be Saturn'saspect> > on the 7H> > > and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a diamond may notbe> > the best> > > thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on Fridays andto seek> > > blessings for ma Lakshmi.> > > Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L placement in 10Hmay> > show> > > excessive focus on career as one of the reasons for delay!> > Ironically the> > > activity that brings the spouse is also the career as Saturnis 6L> > and 7L> > > too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed sign, so thespouse> > may be> > > from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may actually be> > instrumental in> > > bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H may showlove> > marriage.> > > You are likely to have had some serious relationships! ULL in2H> > may show> > > marrying a person who was married before!> > > Best Wishes,> > > Ramesh> > >> > >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----> > > > > [] On> > > Behalf Of sonalinigam28> > > Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AM> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help> > >> > > Hello guruji> > >> > > Please tell me when I will get married and why is so delay is> > happening in> > > my marriage?will i get married or not and what are theremedies i> > can do?> > >> > > My details are> > >> > > date of birth - 14th september 1971> > > place of birth - delhi> > > time of birth - 05:35 am> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > > Sonali> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------> > ~--> Join> > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hopeand> > healing> > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM> > > --> > ~->> > >> > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare RamaKrishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great whosaid> > that the> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart> > reading today> > > Groups Links> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >> > > Enjoy this Diwali with Y! 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Guest guest Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar Offcourse. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com bookman;color:#003300"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Ramesh F. Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com] 03 December 2005 03:23 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji 12.0pt"> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat 12.0pt"> Dear Visti, Sanjayji in his recent lecture in Delhi on Sambandha explained the logic for his recommending Red Coral to late Prime Minister Narasimha Rao. He explained that in case of yoga in kendra or trikona, between (functional!) benefic and malefic, malefic would turn benefic and visa-versa. Is that the reason for recommending emerald in this case for now? Best Wishes, bold">Ramesh 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> [] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, December 02, 2005 3:18 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sonali, Namaskar Just a side note. Keep the emerald, it will give you succes, and follow the rest of Ramesh’s advise. But, when you have found someone to share your life with seriously, take of the emerald until one year of marriage has passed...emeralds aren’t good for lasting relationships. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com bookman;color:#993366"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Ramesh F. Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com] 02 December 2005 21:08 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji 12.0pt"> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat 12.0pt"> Dear Sonali, 12.0pt"> I had attempted your chart earlier. Visti was kind enough to guide me, hope he continues to do so. 12.0pt"> Mercury and Saturn are malefic for Leo lagna and hence their gemstones (Emerald and Blue Sapphire respectively) should not be worn. Saturn as pointed out by Visti is also the cause for delay. I am not familiar with 'Kesaria safed Pukhraj with yellow dot' and hence would not like to recommend. Fasting on Friday (Sunrise to Sunset) was a recommendation supported by Visti, please start that asap. I had also recommended praying to ma lakshmi to strengthen Venus. 12.0pt"> Sun's progression techniques shows marriage likely after completion of 36 yrs. Narayana dasa shows likely period Jan 08- Sep 08 (Cap-Gemini D9) . Vimsottari dasa will be that of Mercury-Sun. Mercury cancels debilitation of Venus and Sun is your Lagna lord placed in own house, conjoint with Mercury. 12.0pt"> Best Wishes, bold">Ramesh 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> [] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, December 02, 2005 2:45 AM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sonali, Namaskar I’m only one astrologer and there are so many charts which come to me. Atleast sometimes my colleagues and students help with the charts and answers. There was one astrologer who supervised this discussion. He should answer your querry regarding the ‘final prediction’. Also that astrologer should understand the particular problem present in your horoscope and advise you regarding gemstones. I.e. if Saturn was a problem, then you should not wear blue sapphire. I hope that other astrologer (i think ramesh) will help you out. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">sonalinigam28 [sonalinigam28 ] 02 December 2005 08:09 [Om Krishna Guru] To visti ji 12.0pt"> Hello vistiji i was not able to understand all can u please tell I am presently wearing6 ¼ ratti emerald in Silver in left hand's little finger.Over 5 ratti white sapphire in Silver with small yellow dot (kesaria safed pukhraj) in ring finger of left hand. One 3 1/4 ratti Blue sapphire in Gold in middle finger of right hand and what should i wear? second i did not understood all this will i get married and when can i have? what are the remedies i do? Thanks guruji Sonali , "vinaypatwardhan" <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Pranam Visti ji, > > Many thanks for explaining the principles. > > Regarding mars , yes I know that point but want your explanation about > it's bodhaka role to sun. Or am I streching? > > Secondly regarding Sat I've observed in 2 charts with Sat in 9th, that > one lost his partner and still leading bachelors life. Second case > have Sat+moon in 9th and engagement is done but ultimately marrigae > doesn't take place. Unfortunately these are 2nd from UL as well. So > now shall we have to move to 8th from UL to see next partner or have > to continue with same UL ? I think this is serious relationship and > it's comes to an end so have to move to 8th from UL. Am I correct? > > Secondly significance of 3rd as requirement is still not clear. What > about 4th and 6th house? Or you mean to say exactly reverse? Like for > parakrama (3rd) intellegince is required. For knowledge (4th) dhan, or > samskaras is required, for dharma to follow marriage is required, to > meake friends in life Dharma (ideals) is vital, to enhance intellect > gains or even astrology is required!! Like way... Or it's like pairs? > > One more thing you have mentioned malefics in upachaya are good but > i.e. from Lagna. Now my little understanding is, basically upachaya is > growth and 3rd shows mithuna or copulation (again mars comes into > picture, strength in general required) Now malefics in 3rd from 7th > house shows excessive growth of copulation (3rd) desires(of 7th H) > Hence causing fall in dharma. Which will affect lagna (sun) and paka > lagna (jup) both !! and detrimental to them . Is there any thing which > I'm missing? > > Your guideline is very much required. Keep guiding me. > > With Pranam, > Vinay P , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Vinay, Namaskar > > > > Nice understanding. > > > > Venus controls virya; this is what Parasara says, and a strong Venus > will > > make the person very picky about whom they spend their virya on, > whilst a > > weak venus is indiscriminte in nature. Thats why a strong Venus is also > > called Brighu. > > > > Mars on the other hand just doesn't wanto enter life of a > householder, and > > thus will obstruct the marriage. This wasn't the main point of your > mail, > > but i wanted to mention it. > > > > Saturn hates the Sun and debilitates Jupiter... so i'm sure the > problem is > > both ways. Even Rahu isn't too fond of either of Sun and Jupiter, > but mainly > > Saturn is afflicting the dharma of Surya whilst Rahu is affecting > the bhagya > > of Guru. > > > > As for ninth house; One reason you gave was from the Gita - this is > > accepted. > > > > The other was regarding upachaya... whilst this is true, you need to > be more > > clear, because Parasara states that malefics are good in upachaya. > Keep in > > mind that he is talking about the upachaya from lagna. Also we are just > > talking about one of these upachaya bhavas, namely the third house. > > > > See the third house from ANY house, indicates 'that which is > required' for > > the house. E.g. Fifth house shows children, and you cannot have children > > without sex, so seventh house (third from fifth) is required. > Similarly the > > seventh house indicates marriage, and you cannot marry without dharma; > > without dharma there would be no laws and thus no marriage, so ninth > house > > (third from seventh) is required for this. > > > > If planets like Saturn and Rahu are in the ninth, then dharma is low > and we > > need to strengthen the dharma through certain means. Usually by just > > increasing the significations of the ninth house, i.e. Gayatri mantra, > > Yellow Stone or Red Stone, etc. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of vinaypatwardhan > > 19 November 2005 11:50 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please help) > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Pranam Visti ji, > > > > Sorry to but in, but want to celar out my understandings and may my > > little contribution enhance my comprehension. > > > > First of all we consider the 9th house as Dharma and gains from > > Dharma are to be seen in 7th (11th to 9th). Secondly 9th is upachaya > > to 7th (physical relationships)controlling the growth of 7th. So both > > contribute to each other. > > Famous Gita quote is corruption of woman is first sign of fall in > > dharma. > > > > Now regarding Sat and mars :- > > > > Sun is the karka of Dharma (we get through father) and guru , friend > > of sun, contributes by giving progeny. Now Sat is enemy of sun and is > > karka of 8th (widowhood/break in relationships)hence placed in > > 9th ,dominate his significations. Plus being manda obstructs the > > growth of dharma and control over delay. > > > > Where as in case of mars, mars controls the Viirya and try to > > maintain brahmacharya and being bodhaka to sun, try to enhance the > > brahmacharya for growth of dharma and his role enemy of venus, > > creates obstacles in vivaha. > > > > These are my little understandings and looking for your suggestions > > and guidelines. > > > > Does bhagya gets ruined by Sat or Dharma ? As jup is significator of > > Bhagya and sun for Dharma.And Sat us neutral to Jup but dire enemy to > > sun?? Am I thinking correct? > > > > With Pranam, > > > > Vinay > > > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > Always remember the context. Saturn in ninth can delay marriage > > because he > > > is ruining the bhagya. Mars in seventh can delay the marriage > > because he is > > > denying the conjugal happiness. > > > > > > The question is now: Why is ninth house important for marriage? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > > 19 November 2005 06:11 > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please > > help) > > > > > > > > > > > > II Hare Ram Krishna II > > > > > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam, > > > > > > A lot of thanks for replying the mail. Your reply has confused me > > betwwen > > > the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing to the delay of > > marriage. There > > > significations are quite different yet you have said about the > > Saturn that > > > it can delay and can never delay the marriage too. You have quoted > > the > > > examples of three charts. So let me prepare the reply well for > > further > > > continuation of discussion.I write to you in next days.Due to time > > > constraint I am unable to devote myself on the net. > > > > > > However I respect you as my GURU whether u consider me as a > > disciple or not. > > > > > > In the case of my female chart you have estimated the year of 2008 > > which is > > > also doubtfull because I am looking this chart as non-marital > > status. Reason > > > is well clear. So let me hope for the best. > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > A long and clarifying note this time. > > > > > > First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a > > bachelor, > > > but i never said that the person will remain that way. In my > > previous mail i > > > elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the > > person out of > > > this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified that > > the > > > problem is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars > > have plenty > > > of lovers, but because of their world-view, they may be delaying > > marriage. > > > > > > Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has > > delayed > > > marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house > > has not > > > delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on the seventh > > which can > > > delay marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Mars to > > keep one in > > > the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja > > dosha. Btw. > > > Mars' natural year is 28. Now see below. > > > > > > Examples: > > > > > > Male Native 1: > > > October 11, 1973 > > > Time: 20:40:30 > > > Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00" > > > > > > Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and > > Saturn is > > > NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person > > married after > > > his 28th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31. > > > > > > Male Native 2: > > > August 7, 1963 > > > Time: 21:15:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00" > > > Sambalpur, India > > > > > > In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming > > the Kuja > > > dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting > > the lord > > > Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is > > however > > > aspecting the seventh house, and the person married in the age of > > Mars, > > > namely 28th year. > > > > > > Female Native 1: > > > > > > August 3, 1974 > > > Time: 19:58:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" > > > Delhi, India > > > > > > In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being > > in the > > > seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the > > sixth > > > house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is > > placed. This > > > native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars > > in the > > > seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the > > person > > > married around 21/22. It was however in the natives 28th year that > > the > > > marriage fell apart. > > > > > > So in these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is not delaying > > marriage. In > > > the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not > > influence. In > > > the last case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did have aspect > > on the > > > seventh. > > > > > > But this doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If > > Saturn or > > > Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay > > marriage, because > > > the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya and > > karaka for > > > bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have > > here. > > > This is another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the > > Bhagavad > > > Gita: "adharmabhibhavat krsna...". > > > > > > The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after > > which the > > > graha has matured and the native has the opportunity to marry. > > Similarly if > > > Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelor life- > > style > > > (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-up to > > smell the > > > sweet scent of married life. > > > > > > Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which > > basically > > > is mars' graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the > > delay upto > > > 28th year. > > > > > > These are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and since marriage > > is a > > > natural phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is > > using the > > > naisargika dasa! > > > > > > But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage. > > Among the > > > kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four > > planets are in > > > a kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya > > yoga is > > > formed. People with such yogas will usually delay marriage until > > the age of > > > the strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will not accept > > marriage > > > as a true manifestation of love, or will generally not believe in > > marriage. > > > > > > In the chart that you have given, four planets are in the tenth > > house, and > > > are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that for some time, the > > native will > > > not believe in marriage, and also the partners she meets (upapada) > > will > > > share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest graha and will be the > > main cause - > > > ego. Could you clarify this persons relation to their father - > > dvadasamsa > > > has surya in the twelfth house, which shows that the father is not > > present > > > in the natives life. > > > > > > Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the main theme of life and > > remedies > > > for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this before? Rudra- abhisheka > > and > > > worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra (surya is neecha in > > navamsa), > > > is required for atleast 40 days. > > > > > > Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joined Mangal > > and > > > Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes the person very > > > emotional to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy. However > > because Moon > > > is in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a spiritual direction > > rather > > > than catching her in an endless limbo of distress. This will > > manifest in a > > > greater way, in the last part of her life. > > > > > > Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer Narayana dasa, to > > show the > > > exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from 97-03, and though > > being > > > lorded by Shukra, wasn't conducive towards marriage. However, she > > underwent > > > a great change in life during this time. > > > > > > Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu, > > which will > > > again present her with opportunities to marry. Here i do see her > > marrying, > > > before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it will be > > through the > > > determination of Saturn (elders) who will push her towards > > marrying. It > > > would be in the latter half of the dasa (06-08), where the results > > of > > > lordship will be given. Further details require the navamsa to be > > rectified. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > > 17 November 2005 07:25 > > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > > > > > > > II Hare Ram Krishna II > > > > > > Respected Visti Guru Ji, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Attached please find the chart of an unmarried female native who > > was born on > > > 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of tezpur,Assam, India. Though > > you > > > might have gone through once and suggested a mantra too. Nothing > > came out so > > > far and their parents are still struggling for her suitable matching > > > partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the time of marriage but > > no hope > > > of materialising the event. > > > > > > I have different opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I found your > > comment > > > on the preceding chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As you > > mentioned the > > > combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th house to remain the > > native as > > > bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing factor of Jup. in this > > chart. > > > Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and Navamsa lagna is occupied > > by its 7th > > > lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of Sat. > > > > > > Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delay but > > not deny > > > the marriage. Now the problem arises if it delays then how long ? > > What is > > > the method to reach up to the nearest time. The native is now 34+ > > and > > > present Dasa running is that of Mer/Ven. Mercury is involved with > > 7th house > > > in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord Venus is natural karak for > > marriage. Though > > > it is debilitated in rasi but has improved in D9 so this planet > > also may > > > give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his blessings to Venus. But > > the fact is > > > native is still unmarried. > > > > > > You may find the similar situation in the attached chart. Hence I > > request > > > you humbly to analyse the marriage and its sustenance area . You > > may take > > > your own time. I have found the non-marital status but unable to > > tell her > > > parents. I want your readings and confirmation for the sake of my > > knowledge. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > > > When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, the person > > lives > > > like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the person will > > also > > > attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle. > > > > > > In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem is the > > type of > > > work the person does. > > > > > > > > > > > > To clear this up the best remedy is fasting on days of the upapada, > > i.e. > > > Fridays in this case. This way the person will get the best > > proposals and > > > will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for your perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, you must > > reconcile > > > with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the work and lifestyle is > > the > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw. Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. A person > > has come > > > to you for help. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani > > > 14 November 2005 23:19 > > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Sonali, > > > I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be Saturn's aspect > > on the 7H > > > and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a diamond may not be > > the best > > > thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on Fridays and to seek > > > blessings for ma Lakshmi. > > > Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L placement in 10H may > > show > > > excessive focus on career as one of the reasons for delay! > > Ironically the > > > activity that brings the spouse is also the career as Saturn is 6L > > and 7L > > > too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed sign, so the spouse > > may be > > > from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may actually be > > instrumental in > > > bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H may show love > > marriage. > > > You are likely to have had some serious relationships! ULL in 2H > > may show > > > marrying a person who was married before! > > > Best Wishes, > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of sonalinigam28 > > > Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AM > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help > > > > > > Hello guruji > > > > > > Please tell me when I will get married and why is so delay is > > happening in > > > my marriage?will i get married or not and what are the remedies i > > can do? > > > > > > My details are > > > > > > date of birth - 14th september 1971 > > > place of birth - delhi > > > time of birth - 05:35 am > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------- ---- > > ~--> Join > > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and > > healing > > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > > > ------------------------------ ----- > > ~-> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > Enjoy this Diwali with Y! 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