Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 intelligent Siddhasena. Taking all the ESSENCE from THAT source, I have treated the same in a brief manner. Primary Conclusion a) The work of Siddhasena is more important to us and no book on it so far I have not seen or heard about. If anyone has a copy of it , it would be most helpful to know the secrets of usage of ashtakvarga b) This dasa system is not what is not the same that we are discussing, the fears of which got revealed later to me during browsing Adhaya VII Sloka 50-50 ½ “Of all the systems of Dasas (AYUS – LIFE LENGTH) , the ashtakvarga one is the very best. Ones Ayurdaya should be computed by the Ashtakvarga process ………. Browsing thro previous slokas, I found that several times he has used the word dasas for ayus (life) and given the system of computation of Ayurdaya dasa system and given maybe more prominence (in terms of number of slokas on rough count) to Amsaayurdaya dasa system calculation & little to Pinda & Nisargajayus, another system he explained was by scholar Jeevasarman. red">Maybe Final Conclusion a) This is the first time I have seen the word Dasas being used for “Life Length” b) The Ashtakvarga Dasa system that he might have talked about is not the one we think but just a Ayus Determination Method Going tangential I have never seen any current writers use any of the ayurdaya systems for life length determination, though I can be wrong since I mostly omit books, articles or emails on life length determination. Going tangential again I am quite sure there must also be a unique repeatable process of using BAV to determine how antardasas will fair in the Vimshottari Dasa scheme. If such a system exists then it will be so easy for dasa delineation. If someone knows how to use this effectively and repeatedly kindly demonstrate. I think the question that if the Ashtakvarga Graha or Rasi Dasa system is present in any classics will have to be asked to scholars like you and others, since I have never read a single classic till date. Maybe it is present in classics which are not with our current generation e.g most of the work of the Greeks are not present they say & that of Siddhasena, & other names mentioned in HoraSara is not with us. Regards, Sunil Dear Sunil,>> Can you let me know where did you find mention of Ashtakavargagraha> dasha? Any classic?> Chandrashekhar. Sunil John <suniljohn_2002 > wrote: Dear Chandukaka, As per what has been told to me, it is applicable in similar fashion. In his article on this, Mr.Raman didn’t indicate the reason why it is called Ashtakavarga Graha Dasha nor the source, infact since it is a Rasi Dasa, accordingly it should be called Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasha. In previous mail of 2 days back wherein I had sent 3 charts as examples, I had stated there that the bhukti technique is not working only Main Period technique is working. Speaking on marriage timing, since 1.5 yrs I am trying to get hold of a work which gives through mathematical model as to how to arrive at the marriage year, 100% success rate. It is reputed to be a very famous technique from a senior astrologer in Delhi. Unfotunately I have not been successful so far Best wishes SJChandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar > wrote: Dear Sunil,Is this applicable to all Karakas in similar fashion? Did Raman Suprajarama indicate why it is called Ashtaka varga Graha dasha and the source? Appears to be more like Karaka dasha to me. Of course I could be wrong. Did you see whether the Bhukti fits in with the method given for the first chart?Chandrashekhar.Sunil John wrote: Dear PVR, Sashtanga Pranam 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify">My Jhora is suddenly not working today giving MCS or MCF application error otherwise i would have attached charts & done more search on other charts. Pls find below rough notes that i prepared few days back with 2 chart examples. this dasa appeared in an article in Astrological Magazine and was written by Raman Suprajarama. Although here he has used it only to time Marriage, from what I remember this dasa has multiple uses if Karaka is changed & Arudha is changed (from what given here in this article) - A10 for career in D10 chart, this is as per what i remember what my village astrologer told me. Then the antars would start in different order as karaka would change. Also, I wonder if the dasa can be used for general predictions along with SAV & PAV points to judge the result of dasa and antar in ones life. If you or anyone can point out how to remove the MCS application error so that Jhora starts again in my PC i shall be indebted, without that software i have been frustrated from morning. tried reinstalling several times but not working. best wishes SJ My notes Astakvarga Graha Dasa justify"> PREMISE The Dasa order in Ahstakavarga Graha Dasa scheme is similar to that of Chara Dasha –(SJ- in order to match with what Raman Suprajarama has given pls use Jhora and for Main Dasa order and duration just click to CHARA Dasa (Parasara Scheme) – tested this on the 2 charts given by Raman in the Dec 05 AM mag & dasa order matches - KN Raos & Irangati's Chara dasa doesnt match with what Raman gave) Start dasa calculation from the day one was born e.g May 11th 1973 Sign based dasa normal"> Some scholars of the opinion that Trikona based dasa can also be used as it denotes the four purposes of life (Dharma, ARtha, Kama and Moksha) The Bhuktis are calculated by considering the position of Venus in the RASI Chart Each Dasa period is Split into 12 equal parts, the 1st bhukti starts from the sign occupied by Ven and the remaining follow in the REGULAR order from that sign Step 1: 1. font-stretch: normal"> Find out the UL Lagna in D9. 2. The 2nd house from UL indicates family here and 7th house indicates spouse. We need to consider the stronger of the two houses If more planets are present in either of the houses that becomes stronger. If both houses contain equal number of planets (or no planets) then the one with Mer or Jup or its LORD becomes the strongest. If this condition is also not satisfied, then the nature of the sign is studied, dual signs are MOST powerful, fixed signs come next and moveable signs are the least powerful. Step 2 The dasa of the sign arrived ( initial; moz-background-origin: initial; moz-background-inline-policy: initial">Computed Sign) under STEP 1 indicates Marriage. It is also possible in the dasa of the signs aspecting the above moz-background-origin: initial; moz-background-inline-policy: initial">Computed Sign Step 3 Such of those Rasis, arrived at in moz-background-clip: initial; moz-background-origin: initial; moz-background-inline-policy: initial">Step 2 (I think the ones aspecting the computed sign) which have more than 30 bindus in SAV can indicate marriage. Step 4 The Sodya Pinda of Venus and the number of bindus in the 7th from Ven in Prastharashtakvarga (PAV) are multiplied and the product is divided by 12. The remainder represents the reference sign. Marriage can take place in the Bhukti of this sign or its Trines justify">Chart 1 From Dec 05 Astro Mag Chart 1: 30th Aug, 1979 at 4.18 am at 12N59, 77E35, Can Asc, SC Nav (Author Raman Suprajama proved thro this dasa that Marriage Happened in Feb 19, 2005 in Aq Dasa, he didn’t go into antars in this chart, he only went till Step 2 to show the dasa working, I think he uses Raman Ayanamsa which would be seen I think in Chart 2) Personal notes on Chart 1 justify"> 1) chart from Dec 05 A.M Mag. Pg 1022 2) Marriage - 19th Feb 05 3) Nav ASc seems correct to what was given in the mag Ahstakvarga Graha Dasa Step 1. In D9 Ul in Ge, 2nd from it is Cn and Sg is 7th, Cn has two plaents wehreas SG has none, so Cn is stronger and capable of giving marriage Step 2. Ta, Sc & Aq aspect this Computed sign which is Cancer, so all the 3 are capable of giving marriage Step 3: Also, the 3 signs arrived at which have moer than 30 bindus can give marriage but here none have more than 25 bindus, infact Aq which gave marriage has only 21 bindus Special note SJ: Aq has Ketu in it, which according to Jaimini - Ketu is capable of giving marriage strongly Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven = 147 & PAV of Ven is 3 justify">both should be multiplied - 147*3=441 then divided by 12, remainder is 9 - So the remainder is 9 which becomes SAgitarrius as the reference Sign, the marriage can take place in the bhukti of this sign or its trines Final note: Step 3 & 4 didnt work in actual practice TEXT-ALIGN: justify"> Chart No 2 1) Chart from Dec 05 AM mag, pg 1022 2) chart Details: 18th Jan, 1962, 21 hrs 23 mins at 26 N 27, 74 E 38 b) Nav Asc here is Virgo(thro jhora) but in mag it is Libra, I guess since the article is from Raman Suprajamana, he must be using Raman Ayanamsa 3) Marriage in Jan 1999 justify"> SJ Notes: If one doesn’t take the right ayanamsa then UL changes which is the key to this dasa, so one way to testing this technique could be using it on known charts and using two different ayanamsas a) Here take Raman Ayanamsa and then only Libra lagna in D9 is arrived to match what is given in Dec 05 AM mag article by Raman Suprajama b) Step1: UL comes in Cancer, 2nd from it is Le with mer and 7th from it is Moon in Cp, since both have equal number of planets, Le is taken since it has Mer (either Mer, Jup or its lord) Step 2: Signs aspecting Leo is AR, Libra and Cp - all 3 capable of giving marriage Step 3: SAV bindus - Ar is only 18, Li is 31 and Cp is 45, though Cp is more capable it didn’t give marriage whereas Aries/Aries gave marriage, maybe since Aries is 7th house of natal D9 Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven=199 (whereas in magazine it is given 202) & 7th from PAV of Ven =1 (in mag it is 7). Multiply both = 199 (mag gives 1414) This 199 divide by 12, remainder is 7, so sign is Libra, so bhutki can be Libra and trines which is Ge or Aq, but infact bhukti was of Taurus - so technique doesn’t work SJ Notes: what Jhora gives as Sodya Pinda and number of bindus in Ven PAV, is completely different from what Raman Suprajaramas software is using, don’t forget to write to Virendra who knows Raman so as to know which software he is using . "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste Sunil, I don't know of any software that gives it. If you share the definition of this dasa or give a reference, I can try to add it in my software (Jagannatha Hora). Give a practical example also, if you can. Merry christmas and happy new year to you too! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- normal">- Sunil John To: ashtakvarga ; Jyotish Group ; parasari_jyotish ; ; Varahamihira Group ; valist ; Vedic Astrology List Cc: Narasimha Rao ; Narasimha Rao Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:40 PM Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa - astro software Dear Learned Members, Can anyone point out which astro software calculates the “Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa” Shall be most grateful. Btw, Merry Christmas to everyone & may the coming year be full of wonderful productive experiences. Regards, Sunil John Mumbai Do You ? DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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