Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Dear Rajeev, A very valid question. Long time ago, around a year back, I asked this same question on this same group. I got this answer from him (I beg forgiveness as I donot remember the name of the esteemed member) IF Mars is deb in both D-1 and D-9, then no doubt it is powerful. But the nature of its "power" is determined by its placement. this is how the Almighty wanted it to be. Well, I publicly acclaim the beautiful prediction tha Rajeev has done for my sister. He has proven his analytical aspects of an astrologer. Hats off to him from myside. Thanks Rajeev for the personal favour!! Well, I agree that degree calculation is very important aspect as well as the "avastha" determination!! Regards Souvik , Rajeev Tadepalli <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > All, > I need a clarification. Going by the following definition from > Raman, Say a planet, Mars in a rasi chart is in Cancer. > In navamsa also he's in cancer, How should we intrepret this. > > The above case qualifies Mars to be a Vargottama. But he is > debilitated. > > So on summation will he be strong or weak ? > > > Souvik, > This is your sisters case. After going home i was reflecting > on this placement. > > It is very subtly placed for ur sister. Mars was in infancy > at 2.5 degrees in cancer. > We generally tend to miss out this point unless we develop a > very keen eye to understand the degrees of placement of a planet. > > But your observations should be true to word. With out some > strenght to mars she would not have got a lovable brother like > you. > > Thanks & Regards > > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:15 -0700 > "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> > RE: To Souvik from raman > > That is defination I have found on VARGOTTAM > > VARGOTTAMA > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa (q.v.) as in the > natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in bestowing its auspicious > results. > > > > Thx > > > > Raman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Hi Rajeev, I want to know which will be stronger : 1. vargottam planet 2. exalted planet 3. exalted retro planet and what will be difference in the observered results in these cases.... regards SONU , "OM" <explore_vulcan> wrote: > Dear Rajeev, > > A very valid question. Long time ago, around a year back, I asked > this same question on this same group. I got this answer from him (I > beg forgiveness as I donot remember the name of the esteemed member) > > IF Mars is deb in both D-1 and D-9, then no doubt it is powerful. But > the nature of its "power" is determined by its placement. this is how > the Almighty wanted it to be. > > Well, I publicly acclaim the beautiful prediction tha Rajeev has done > for my sister. He has proven his analytical aspects of an astrologer. > Hats off to him from myside. > > Thanks Rajeev for the personal favour!! > > Well, I agree that degree calculation is very important aspect as > well as the "avastha" determination!! > > Regards > Souvik > , Rajeev Tadepalli > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > > All, > > I need a clarification. Going by the following definition from > > Raman, Say a planet, Mars in a rasi chart is in Cancer. > > In navamsa also he's in cancer, How should we intrepret this. > > > > The above case qualifies Mars to be a Vargottama. But he is > > debilitated. > > > > So on summation will he be strong or weak ? > > > > > > Souvik, > > This is your sisters case. After going home i was > reflecting > > on this placement. > > > > It is very subtly placed for ur sister. Mars was in > infancy > > at 2.5 degrees in cancer. > > We generally tend to miss out this point unless we > develop a > > very keen eye to understand the degrees of placement of a > planet. > > > > But your observations should be true to word. With > out some > > strenght to mars she would not have got a lovable > brother like > > you. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:15 -0700 > > "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> > > RE: To Souvik from raman > > > > That is defination I have found on VARGOTTAM > > > > VARGOTTAMA > > > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa (q.v.) as > in the > > natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in bestowing its > auspicious > > results. > > > > > > > > Thx > > > > > > > > Raman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 > VARGOTTAMA > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa (q.v.) > as in the natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in > bestowing its auspicious results. One small point--Vargottama is usually good, but if it concerns a debilitated planet, it is terrible. For example, if Jupiter is in Capricon in both Natal and Navamsa charts, it becomes totally powerless. But such exceptions apart, Vargottama is really a good thing! ===== Balaji Narasimhan, Author Visit http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm for: * Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs * The Partial Art of Detection ===== Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ ph/print_splash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 I read somewhere that a planet in vargottama carries no additional significance of being in Vargottama. However , Lagana in Vargottama makes a person significant in his/her clan or society. Inder -- In , Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji> wrote: > > VARGOTTAMA > > > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa > (q.v.) > > as in the natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in > > bestowing its auspicious results. > > One small point--Vargottama is usually good, but if it concerns > a debilitated planet, it is terrible. For example, if Jupiter is > in Capricon in both Natal and Navamsa charts, it becomes totally > powerless. > > But such exceptions apart, Vargottama is really a good thing! > > > ===== > Balaji Narasimhan, Author > Visit http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm for: > * Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > * The Partial Art of Detection > ===== > > > > > > > Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ > ph/print_splash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Does anyone knows any web site where I can read about divisional charts (d1 d10) and then I can understand them. Thx Raman indervohra2001 [indervohra2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in]Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:56 AMTo: Subject: Re: VARGOTTAMAI read somewhere that a planet in vargottama carries no additional significance of being in Vargottama.However , Lagana in Vargottama makes a person significant in his/her clan or society.Inder-- In , Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji> wrote:> > VARGOTTAMA > > > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa> (q.v.) > > as in the natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in > > bestowing its auspicious results.> > One small point--Vargottama is usually good, but if it concerns> a debilitated planet, it is terrible. For example, if Jupiter is> in Capricon in both Natal and Navamsa charts, it becomes totally> powerless.> > But such exceptions apart, Vargottama is really a good thing!> > > =====> Balaji Narasimhan, Author> Visit http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm for: > * Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > * The Partial Art of Detection > =====> > > > > > > Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢> ph/print_splash~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Shouldn't vargottama be of greater significance in the dwadashamsha, where each segment is more related to the rashis, than navamsha which is connected to the quarters of asterisms? Just curious ... Would be interesting to hear from individuals who actually have vargottamas in their horoscopes, rather than going by what dry texts write (it never comes true or fits anyway ;-) M , Rajeev Tadepalli <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > All, > I need a clarification. Going by the following definition from > Raman, Say a planet, Mars in a rasi chart is in Cancer. > In navamsa also he's in cancer, How should we intrepret this. > > The above case qualifies Mars to be a Vargottama. But he is > debilitated. > > So on summation will he be strong or weak ? > > > Souvik, > This is your sisters case. After going home i was reflecting > on this placement. > > It is very subtly placed for ur sister. Mars was in infancy > at 2.5 degrees in cancer. > We generally tend to miss out this point unless we develop a > very keen eye to understand the degrees of placement of a planet. > > But your observations should be true to word. With out some > strenght to mars she would not have got a lovable brother like > you. > > Thanks & Regards > > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:15 -0700 > "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> > RE: To Souvik from raman > > That is defination I have found on VARGOTTAM > > VARGOTTAMA > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa (q.v.) as in the > natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in bestowing its auspicious > results. > > > > Thx > > > > Raman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Hi Manas, I have Vargittam Rahu Ketu. I have one question: Can rahu ketu be considered Vargottam? Regards Souvik , "Manas Kumar" <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > Shouldn't vargottama be of greater significance in the dwadashamsha, > where each segment is more related to the rashis, than navamsha > which is connected to the quarters of asterisms? Just curious ... > > Would be interesting to hear from individuals who actually have > vargottamas in their horoscopes, rather than going by what dry texts > write (it never comes true or fits anyway ;-) > > M > > , Rajeev Tadepalli > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > > All, > > I need a clarification. Going by the following definition > from > > Raman, Say a planet, Mars in a rasi chart is in Cancer. > > In navamsa also he's in cancer, How should we intrepret this. > > > > The above case qualifies Mars to be a Vargottama. But he is > > debilitated. > > > > So on summation will he be strong or weak ? > > > > > > Souvik, > > This is your sisters case. After going home i was > reflecting > > on this placement. > > > > It is very subtly placed for ur sister. Mars was in > infancy > > at 2.5 degrees in cancer. > > We generally tend to miss out this point unless we > develop a > > very keen eye to understand the degrees of placement of a > planet. > > > > But your observations should be true to word. With > out some > > strenght to mars she would not have got a lovable > brother like > > you. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:15 -0700 > > "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> > > RE: To Souvik from raman > > > > That is defination I have found on VARGOTTAM > > > > VARGOTTAMA > > > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa (q.v.) as > in the > > natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in bestowing its > auspicious > > results. > > > > > > > > Thx > > > > > > > > Raman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Hi, i have mercury in vargottam , but it is a mlefic planet for me , i want to know , if vargottam automatically bestows benefic status on teh planet? my details are- 11:08 AM born at agra up , india on 28th dec-1975, thanks, ruchi. --- Manas Kumar <manaskumar wrote: > Shouldn't vargottama be of greater significance in > the dwadashamsha, > where each segment is more related to the rashis, > than navamsha > which is connected to the quarters of asterisms? > Just curious ... > > Would be interesting to hear from individuals who > actually have > vargottamas in their horoscopes, rather than going > by what dry texts > write (it never comes true or fits anyway ;-) > > M > > , Rajeev > Tadepalli > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > > All, > > I need a clarification. Going by the following > definition > from > > Raman, Say a planet, Mars in a rasi chart is in > Cancer. > > In navamsa also he's in cancer, How should we > intrepret this. > > > > The above case qualifies Mars to be a Vargottama. > But he is > > debilitated. > > > > So on summation will he be strong or weak ? > > > > > > Souvik, > > This is your sisters case. After going home i > was > reflecting > > on this placement. > > > > It is very subtly placed for ur sister. Mars was > in > infancy > > at 2.5 degrees in cancer. > > We generally tend to miss out this point unless > we > develop a > > very keen eye to understand the degrees of > placement of a > planet. > > > > But your observations should be true to word. > With > out some > > strenght to mars she would not have got a lovable > > brother like > > you. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:15 -0700 > > "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> > > RE: To Souvik from raman > > > > That is defination I have found on VARGOTTAM > > > > VARGOTTAMA > > > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the > Navamsa (q.v.) as > in the > > natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful > in bestowing its > auspicious > > results. > > > > > > > > Thx > > > > > > > > Raman > > Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ ph/print_splash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I have vargottam of my lagna in navamasa and d-vamasa. I think so far its been protecting 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">me. pl take a look at this horoscope. I have cancer lagna with moon in exaltation and also with parivartana with Venus (1-11). See what you think. mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">DOB JUNE 29 1973 mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">POB KAVALI, AP, INDIA mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">TOB 705 am mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">ruchi agrawal <ruchiagrawal_28 > wrote: Hi, i have mercury in vargottam , but it is a mleficplanet for me , i want to know , if vargottamautomatically bestows benefic status on teh planet?my details are- 11:08 AM born at agra up , india on28th dec-1975,thanks,ruchi.--- Manas Kumar wrote:> Shouldn't vargottama be of greater significance in> the dwadashamsha, > where each segment is more related to the rashis,> than navamsha > which is connected to the quarters of asterisms?> Just curious ...> > Would be interesting to hear from individuals who> actually have > vargottamas in their horoscopes, rather than going> by what dry texts > write (it never comes true or fits anyway ;-)> > M> > --- In , Rajeev> Tadepalli > wrote:> > All,> > I need a clarification. Going by the following> definition > from> > Raman, Say a planet, Mars in a rasi chart is in> Cancer.> > In navamsa also he's in cancer, How should we> intrepret this.> > > > The above case qualifies Mars to be a Vargottama.> But he is> > debilitated.> > > > So on summation will he be strong or weak ?> > > > > > Souvik,> > This is your sisters case. After going home i> was > reflecting> > on this placement.> > > > It is very subtly placed for ur sister. Mars was> in > infancy> > at 2.5 degrees in cancer.> > We generally tend to miss out this point unless> we > develop a> > very keen eye to understand the degrees of> placement of a > planet.> > > > But your observations should be true to word.> With > out some> > strenght to mars she would not have got a lovable > > brother like> > you. > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > > > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:15 -0700> > "Calla, Raman" > > RE: To Souvik from raman> > > > That is defination I have found on VARGOTTAM > > > > VARGOTTAMA > > > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the> Navamsa (q.v.) as > in the> > natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful> in bestowing its > auspicious> > results.> > > > > > > > Thx> > > > > > > > Raman> > Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ph/print_splash------------------------ Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or LexmarkPrinter at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada.http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511http://us.click./mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/C9XolB/TM---~->~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:/<*> To from this group, send an email to:<*> Your use of is subject to: Photos: om/ph/print_splash">High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Nothing like real life personal experience to test these things! Can you say that what rahu represents in your chart (planet surrogate, house etc) has fructified strongly? Generally speaking or in its dasha/bhukti? Having been blessed with the combination, you should be in a better position to teach us through personal experience, hanh jee? , "OM" <explore_vulcan> wrote: > Hi Manas, > > I have Vargittam Rahu Ketu. I have one question: > Can rahu ketu be considered Vargottam? > > Regards > Souvik > , "Manas Kumar" > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > Shouldn't vargottama be of greater significance in the > dwadashamsha, > > where each segment is more related to the rashis, than navamsha > > which is connected to the quarters of asterisms? Just curious ... > > > > Would be interesting to hear from individuals who actually have > > vargottamas in their horoscopes, rather than going by what dry > texts > > write (it never comes true or fits anyway ;-) > > > > M > > > > , Rajeev Tadepalli > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > > > All, > > > I need a clarification. Going by the following definition > > from > > > Raman, Say a planet, Mars in a rasi chart is in Cancer. > > > In navamsa also he's in cancer, How should we intrepret this. > > > > > > The above case qualifies Mars to be a Vargottama. But he is > > > debilitated. > > > > > > So on summation will he be strong or weak ? > > > > > > > > > Souvik, > > > This is your sisters case. After going home i was > > reflecting > > > on this placement. > > > > > > It is very subtly placed for ur sister. Mars was in > > infancy > > > at 2.5 degrees in cancer. > > > We generally tend to miss out this point unless we > > develop a > > > very keen eye to understand the degrees of placement > of a > > planet. > > > > > > But your observations should be true to word. With > > out some > > > strenght to mars she would not have got a lovable > > brother like > > > you. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > > > > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:15 -0700 > > > "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> > > > RE: To Souvik from raman > > > > > > That is defination I have found on VARGOTTAM > > > > > > VARGOTTAMA > > > > > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa (q.v.) > as > > in the > > > natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in bestowing its > > auspicious > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx > > > > > > > > > > > > Raman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Friends, I have many cases of starts in Vargottama - some of the significant ones which I have are Ascendant Vargottama , Mercury in Gemini , Virgo and Pisces Vargottama , Venus in Taurus , Libra and Capricorn Vargottama , Moon in Taurus and Cancer , Saturn Libra , Mars Capricorn to name a few. Anybody interested in these cases let me know. But coming to the main point of this email, Yes Rahu in Scorpio and Ketu in Taurus vargottama, do give extreme positive or negative effects based on overall horoscope pattern and Dasha and Bhukti. I have examples. But one major difference which I have observed is that Rahu and Ketu generally and more specifically in Vargottama does not get affected by other aspects than conjunction. I have examples of Rahu Vargottama conjunction Moon , Venus , Mars giving very strong effects. Let me know if anybody wants to know more on this. Regards, Anil - Manas Kumar Saturday, April 24, 2004 9:27 AM Re: Vargottama Nothing like real life personal experience to test these things! Can you say that what rahu represents in your chart (planet surrogate, house etc) has fructified strongly? Generally speaking or in its dasha/bhukti?Having been blessed with the combination, you should be in a better position to teach us through personal experience, hanh jee?, "OM" <explore_vulcan> wrote:> Hi Manas,> > I have Vargittam Rahu Ketu. I have one question:> Can rahu ketu be considered Vargottam?> > Regards> Souvik> , "Manas Kumar" > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:> > Shouldn't vargottama be of greater significance in the > dwadashamsha, > > where each segment is more related to the rashis, than navamsha > > which is connected to the quarters of asterisms? Just curious ...> > > > Would be interesting to hear from individuals who actually have > > vargottamas in their horoscopes, rather than going by what dry > texts > > write (it never comes true or fits anyway ;-)> > > > M> > > > --- In , Rajeev Tadepalli > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote:> > > All,> > > I need a clarification. Going by the following definition > > from> > > Raman, Say a planet, Mars in a rasi chart is in Cancer.> > > In navamsa also he's in cancer, How should we intrepret this.> > > > > > The above case qualifies Mars to be a Vargottama. But he is> > > debilitated.> > > > > > So on summation will he be strong or weak ?> > > > > > > > > Souvik,> > > This is your sisters case. After going home i was > > reflecting> > > on this placement.> > > > > > It is very subtly placed for ur sister. Mars was in > > infancy> > > at 2.5 degrees in cancer.> > > We generally tend to miss out this point unless we > > develop a> > > very keen eye to understand the degrees of placement > of a > > planet.> > > > > > But your observations should be true to word. With > > out some> > > strenght to mars she would not have got a lovable > > brother like> > > you. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > > > > > > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:15 -0700> > > "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...>> > > RE: To Souvik from raman> > > > > > That is defination I have found on VARGOTTAM > > > > > > VARGOTTAMA > > > > > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa (q.v.) > as > > in the> > > natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in bestowing its > > auspicious> > > results.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thx> > > > > > > > > > > > Raman~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Dear Rafalji, Would you kindly let me know the effects of a Vargottama Sun in 7th house in Scorpio for Taurus Lagna. For more info Jupiter and Mars are in other Kendras (4th & 10th respectively). Regards, Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Kannan VARGOTTAMA In case of Vargottama opportunities (Rasi) and fruits (Navamsa) are harmonized. So its Uttama(best). There is no mismatch. This can be good or bad depending on Avastha and Yoga of Graha. Situation coming from Graha will be fixed. Native will achive fame and name due to this because its based on placement from Rasi-Rasi to Navamsa-Rasi (its one = Lagna = fame/name ). You can get fame due to Sun Karakatwa. And forth lord in seventh house is broad learning (seventh house is Dwara - door). When we talk about Sun be careful about Rahu/Gulika doesnt touch this Sun as this can cause drug-use (when Lagnesh is involved). Regards Rafal Gendarz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Dear Rafal, Thank you for the reply. I am not clear, please elaborate. what is sun Karakatwa, I know Sun is karaka of Father,Health, Power etc. Can the native get fame because of Father?. Also what is broad education. There is no Rahu/Gulika relation to Sun. Lagnesh is in 2nd from Sun. Regards, Kannan , "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > > II Hare Rama Krsna II > Dear Kannan > > VARGOTTAMA > In case of Vargottama opportunities (Rasi) and fruits (Navamsa) are harmonized. So its Uttama(best). There is no mismatch. This can be good or bad depending on Avastha and Yoga of Graha. Situation coming from Graha will be fixed. Native will achive fame and name due to this because its based on placement from Rasi-Rasi to Navamsa- Rasi (its one = Lagna = fame/name ). > > You can get fame due to Sun Karakatwa. And forth lord in seventh house is broad learning (seventh house is Dwara - door). > > When we talk about Sun be careful about Rahu/Gulika doesnt touch this Sun as this can cause drug-use (when Lagnesh is involved). > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Dear Kannan, You can get some fame through some government/leadership issue, dancing(rhytm) or gallantery. What You will do however is depending on Your lifestyle (AL) and Karma Yoga (D-3). Broad learning means learning from many sources, many disciplines etc. Regards Rafal Gendarz - "kankan_73" <kankan_73 > <> Friday, December 30, 2005 5:01 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] vargottama > Dear Rafal,> Thank you for the reply. I am not clear, please elaborate. what is > sun Karakatwa, I know Sun is karaka of Father,Health, Power etc. Can > the native get fame because of Father?. Also what is broad education.> There is no Rahu/Gulika relation to Sun. Lagnesh is in 2nd from Sun.> > Regards,> Kannan> > , "Rafal Gendarz" > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:>>>> II Hare Rama Krsna II>> Dear Kannan>> >> VARGOTTAMA>> In case of Vargottama opportunities (Rasi) and fruits (Navamsa) > are harmonized. So its Uttama(best). There is no mismatch. This can > be good or bad depending on Avastha and Yoga of Graha. Situation > coming from Graha will be fixed. Native will achive fame and name > due to this because its based on placement from Rasi-Rasi to Navamsa-> Rasi (its one = Lagna = fame/name ).>> >> You can get fame due to Sun Karakatwa. And forth lord in seventh > house is broad learning (seventh house is Dwara - door).>> >> When we talk about Sun be careful about Rahu/Gulika doesnt touch > this Sun as this can cause drug-use (when Lagnesh is involved).>> >> Regards>> >> Rafal Gendarz>>> > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing> http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM> --~-> > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links> > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > <*> > > > <*> Your use of is subject to:> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Dear Kannnan, Guruji writes : " sukheçe saptame jäto bahuvidyäsamanvitaù | "A person born with 4 th lord in the 7 th house acquires the knowledge of many branches." The 7 th house is the 'dvära' or door through which we enter into the world. As per the Åg Veda (Gaëeña Gäyatri), Gaëeña sits in the doorway to the gods, and a prayer to him ensures that any mistakes in our recitation of mantras are forgiven and the recitation is accepted. Similarly any planet in the 7 th house shows the blessings of Gaëeña in whatever activity the native may aspire to accomplish. The 4 th lord shows the fruits of ones education and when it sits in the 7 th house or joins the 7 th lord, the native will have the blessings of learning in many branches. " Regards Rafal Gendarz - "kankan_73" <kankan_73 <> Friday, December 30, 2005 5:01 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] vargottama > Dear Rafal, > Thank you for the reply. I am not clear, please elaborate. what is > sun Karakatwa, I know Sun is karaka of Father,Health, Power etc. Can > the native get fame because of Father?. Also what is broad education. > There is no Rahu/Gulika relation to Sun. Lagnesh is in 2nd from Sun. > > Regards, > Kannan > > , "Rafal Gendarz" > <starsuponme@w...> wrote: >> >> II Hare Rama Krsna II >> Dear Kannan >> >> VARGOTTAMA >> In case of Vargottama opportunities (Rasi) and fruits (Navamsa) > are harmonized. So its Uttama(best). There is no mismatch. This can > be good or bad depending on Avastha and Yoga of Graha. Situation > coming from Graha will be fixed. Native will achive fame and name > due to this because its based on placement from Rasi-Rasi to Navamsa- > Rasi (its one = Lagna = fame/name ). >> >> You can get fame due to Sun Karakatwa. And forth lord in seventh > house is broad learning (seventh house is Dwara - door). >> >> When we talk about Sun be careful about Rahu/Gulika doesnt touch > this Sun as this can cause drug-use (when Lagnesh is involved). >> >> Regards >> >> Rafal Gendarz >> > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Dear Rafalji, Thanks for explaining. However, what about fame and karakatwa which you said in the first mail. Kindly elaborate Regards, Kannan , "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > > Dear Kannnan, > > Guruji writes : " > sukheçe saptame jäto bahuvidyäsamanvitaù | > > "A person born with 4 th lord in the 7 th house acquires the knowledge of > many branches." > > The 7 th house is the 'dvära' or door through which we enter into the world. > As per the Åg Veda (Gaëeña Gäyatri), Gaëeña sits in the doorway to the gods, > and a prayer to him ensures that any mistakes in our recitation of mantras > are forgiven and the recitation is accepted. Similarly any planet in the 7 > th house shows the blessings of Gaëeña in whatever activity the native may > aspire to accomplish. > > The 4 th lord shows the fruits of ones education and when it sits in the 7 > th house or joins the 7 th lord, the native will have the blessings of > learning in many branches. " > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > - > "kankan_73" <kankan_73> > <> > Friday, December 30, 2005 5:01 AM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] vargottama > > > > Dear Rafal, > > Thank you for the reply. I am not clear, please elaborate. what is > > sun Karakatwa, I know Sun is karaka of Father,Health, Power etc. Can > > the native get fame because of Father?. Also what is broad education. > > There is no Rahu/Gulika relation to Sun. Lagnesh is in 2nd from Sun. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > , "Rafal Gendarz" > > <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > >> > >> II Hare Rama Krsna II > >> Dear Kannan > >> > >> VARGOTTAMA > >> In case of Vargottama opportunities (Rasi) and fruits (Navamsa) > > are harmonized. So its Uttama(best). There is no mismatch. This can > > be good or bad depending on Avastha and Yoga of Graha. Situation > > coming from Graha will be fixed. Native will achive fame and name > > due to this because its based on placement from Rasi-Rasi to Navamsa- > > Rasi (its one = Lagna = fame/name ). > >> > >> You can get fame due to Sun Karakatwa. And forth lord in seventh > > house is broad learning (seventh house is Dwara - door). > >> > >> When we talk about Sun be careful about Rahu/Gulika doesnt touch > > this Sun as this can cause drug-use (when Lagnesh is involved). > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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