Western Astrology

May 26, 2003

Hi Tanvir and everyone,

I am new to this list - I teach Western Astrology on the net and am

just beginning to learn Vedic Astrology also - I believe that there

is something to be gained from all methods of Astrology and it was

such a relief to read this sentence on the Home Page of this site -

"Here the respect and freedom of thoughts live". These are my

sentiments exactly.

Warmest Regards to Everyone.

Shamira

By the way - the List in which I teach Western Astrology is called

Astrology-Absolute Beginners - there are lessons in the Files

Section - if anyone has any queries, just email me - privately if you

wish - take care, Shamira

, "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote:

> Dear members,

> Here is an astrology list of mainly Western Astrology, perhaps some

of you might feel interested / curious about Western Systems :-)

>

> astrology-list/

>

> Regards,

> Tanvir

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> tanvir@s...

> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

>

May 26, 2003

shamira, welcome!

generally this list is for vedic astrology but here western can go along with,

as long as it does not hurt each other! :-) and esp where u r interested to

learn some vedic astrology, u need a lit for that :-)

i am going to send u those beginner materials in private as i said. also thanks

for the offer :-)regards,

tanvir

What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir

Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

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shamirashakira

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:48 AM

Re: Western Astrology

Hi Tanvir and everyone,I am new to this list - I teach Western Astrology on the

net and am just beginning to learn Vedic Astrology also - I believe that there

is something to be gained from all methods of Astrology and it was such a

relief to read this sentence on the Home Page of this site - "Here the respect

and freedom of thoughts live". These are my sentiments exactly.Warmest Regards

to Everyone.ShamiraBy the way - the List in which I teach Western Astrology is

called Astrology-Absolute Beginners - there are lessons in the Files Section -

if anyone has any queries, just email me - privately if you wish - take care,

Shamira, "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote:>

Dear members,> Here is an astrology list of mainly Western Astrology, perhaps

some of you might feel interested / curious about Western Systems :-)> >

astrology-list/> > Regards,> Tanvir> > > > What

can not happen, can never happen.> Which is mine, is forever mine.> > Tanvir

Chowdhury> tanvir@s...> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir>

http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro>

May 27, 2003

Thankyou for the Welcome Tanveer!

I am looking forward to learning Vedic Astrology here on this list!

Warm Regards,

Shamira

and here is the Western Astrology Beginner's List address for anyone

who might be interested..

Astrology-AbsoluteBeginners/?

yguid=118323946

, "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote:

> shamira, welcome!

>

> generally this list is for vedic astrology but here western can go

along with, as long as it does not hurt each other! :-) and esp where

u r interested to learn some vedic astrology, u need a lit for that :-

)

>

> i am going to send u those beginner materials in private as i said.

also thanks for the offer :-)

>

> regards,

> tanvir

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> tanvir@s...

> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

>

> -

> shamirashakira

>

> Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:48 AM

> Re: Western Astrology

>

> Hi Tanvir and everyone,

>

> I am new to this list - I teach Western Astrology on the net and

am

> just beginning to learn Vedic Astrology also - I believe that

there

> is something to be gained from all methods of Astrology and it

was

> such a relief to read this sentence on the Home Page of this

site -

> "Here the respect and freedom of thoughts live". These are my

> sentiments exactly.

>

> Warmest Regards to Everyone.

>

> Shamira

>

> By the way - the List in which I teach Western Astrology is

called

> Astrology-Absolute Beginners - there are lessons in the Files

> Section - if anyone has any queries, just email me - privately if

you

> wish - take care, Shamira

>

> , "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...>

wrote:

> > Dear members,

> > Here is an astrology list of mainly Western Astrology, perhaps

some

> of you might feel interested / curious about Western Systems :-)

> >

> > astrology-list/

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tanvir

> >

> > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> >

> > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > tanvir@s...

> > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> >

May 30, 2003

hi all,

let me share one fact about western astrology,the word horoscope - is

derived from horo + scope i.e. hora + scope ... scope we all know..

and the horo word is a sanskrit world (aaho + raa ) means = day and

night. so all horo scopic science drived from single source

but no doubt all cultures done valueable addition to this artistic

science, and that western developed their uniquess, what we called

today western astrology

regards

SHRI HARSH

May 31, 2003

Wow, good! I did not know about this!!

then it means that the English word 'Horo' came from the word 'Hora' which is

'Aho'+'Ratra' which means Day and night respectively. Thus Hora means 'Day and

night' = 'Time'! Thus Hora Shastra means 'The science of time'.

Best wishes,

Tanvir

What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir

Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

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Harsh

Saturday, May 31, 2003 11:49 AM

Re: Western Astrology

hi all,let me share one fact about western astrology,the word horoscope - is

derived from horo + scope i.e. hora + scope ... scope we all know.. and the

horo word is a sanskrit world (aaho + raa ) means = day and night. so all horo

scopic science drived from single sourcebut no doubt all cultures done

valueable addition to this artistic science, and that western developed their

uniquess, what we called today western astrologyregardsSHRI HARSH

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January 26, 2006

Dear Rafal ji and Visti ji,

Are there any books or literature availaable which can guide abt the

results of planetry aspects according to Sideral /western astrology.

thanks

tarun

January 27, 2006

Dear Tarun,

Dont know. I left this astrology as it has deffect of going astray from

learning of Maharishi's.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

"Tarun" <tarun.virgo

<>

Friday, January 27, 2006 8:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Western Astrology

> Dear Rafal ji and Visti ji,

>

> Are there any books or literature availaable which can guide abt the

> results of planetry aspects according to Sideral /western astrology.

>

> thanks

>

> tarun

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

> Links

>

January 28, 2006

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Tarun,

Namaste

The best I've found is "Planets in Transit" by Robert Hand.

Love,

Swee

[] On

Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:15 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Western Astrology

Dear Tarun,

Dont know. I left this astrology as it has deffect of going astray from

learning of Maharishi's.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

"Tarun" <tarun.virgo

<>

Friday, January 27, 2006 8:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Western Astrology

> Dear Rafal ji and Visti ji,

>

> Are there any books or literature availaable which can guide abt the

> results of planetry aspects according to Sideral /western astrology.

>

> thanks

>

> tarun

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

> Links

>

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

Links

January 28, 2006

Thanks alot for the cooperation. Actually i am a bullion trader and astrology

according to Western /Sideral system i found it exactly even the things happens

in mintues of accuracy.

Thanks

Tarun.

On 1/28/06, Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

Jaya JagannathaDear Tarun,NamasteThe best I've found is "Planets in Transit" by

Robert Hand.

Love,Swee

[] OnBehalf Of Rafal GendarzSaturday,

January 28, 2006 12:15 AM

Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Western AstrologyDear Tarun,

Dont know. I left this astrology as it has deffect of going astray from learning

of Maharishi's.RegardsRafal Gendarz- "Tarun" <

tarun.virgo ><>Friday, January

27, 2006 8:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Western Astrology> Dear Rafal ji and Visti ji,>> Are

there any books or literature availaable which can guide abt the> results of

planetry aspects according to Sideral /western astrology.

>> thanks>> tarun>>>>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum

of the Achyuta Ashram.> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the >

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity

in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

> Links>>>>>>>>> ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the

decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that thehuman

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in

thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links

~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to

become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach

should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

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January 29, 2006

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear

Tarun,

Namaste

Actually

the terminology in western aspects like square, trines, sextile, semi-sextile, quincunx

etc., are all varying degrees in aspects.

If you

care to read the basics in the Classics in Vedic astrology, they are all there.

In order to understand astrology, one needs to understand the philosophy in

each of the literature presented in the Vedas. A life time feat, I agree.

Nebulous aspects

to Neptune, Pluto, Uranus etc., are excluded because these planetary bodies are

outside the realms of human astrology as they are on the loka loka mountains. If

I recall correctly, it takes 249 years for Pluto’s traversal and that

too, we never know how many years it remains in one sign. As it affects several

generations at any one time, the Maharishis were no fools when it came to

teaching us Cosmology and related subjects. Let’s take Uranus which acts

like Rahu. Because western astrology does not understand the Nodes, the

alternative was to take Uranus. But if you go into the philosophy from Srimad

Bhagavatam with regards to those nodes, a much clearer picture is presented

there.

As a bullion

trader, the nodes are important including Moon, Sun and the aspect of Mars is

paramount.

Many of us

here were western astrologers before. There were too many questions of my past

life left unanswered and the switch over has been God send.

The best

chapters in “Vedic” astrology is from Narada Purana. The literature

on planetary vedha caused in Transits is quite extensive, so you might want to

reconsider.

Love,

Swee

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[] On Behalf Of Tarun Agarwal

Sunday, January 29, 2006

6:10 AM

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Western Astrology

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12.0pt">Dear Swee,

12.0pt">Thanks alot for the cooperation. Actually i am a bullion trader and

astrology according to Western /Sideral system i found it exactly even the

things happens in mintues of accuracy.

12.0pt">Thanks

12.0pt">Tarun.

On 1/28/06, Swee

Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm>

wrote:

10.0pt">Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Tarun,

Namaste

The best I've found is "Planets in

Transit" by Robert Hand.

Love,

Swee

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[]

On

Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:15 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Western Astrology

Dear Tarun,

Dont know. I left this astrology as it has deffect of going

astray from

learning of Maharishi's.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

"Tarun" < tarun.virgo >

<>

Friday, January 27, 2006 8:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru]

Western Astrology

> Dear Rafal ji and Visti ji,

>

> Are there any books or literature availaable which can guide

abt the

> results of planetry aspects according to Sideral /western

astrology.

>

> thanks

>

> tarun

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> Links

>

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

Links

12.0pt">

~

om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

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January 29, 2006

I agree that the Uranus, Neptune and Pluto dont play much important role in

human astrology, but if u remember that Last week Mars and Jupiter were

exactly 180 degree opposite to each other and that day Conferance on Iran took

place (by chance) and the next day when the statement came that meeting will be

held on 2nd feb. Actually what is see that there was a " T" formation in between

Mars , Guru and Neptune. And exactly as Mars came in same degree,minutes to

neptune the statement following the thing abt Russia and other factors came in

media. Since mars and Jupiter opposition creates Geo-political Tensions,if u

again search the past the same planetry configuration took place in june 1947,

and at that time, i read in history that the division of India and pakistan was

decided.

Oppositon of any planet realted to Jupiter creates the tensions realted to the

nature of aspecting planet for example currently mars was oppostite to jupiter

so Fight/Mars nature was involved but if saturn was involved there then the

tensions related to Strikes were to be highligted.

Thakns and Best Regards,

Tarun Agarwal

On 1/29/06, Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Tarun,

Namaste

Actually the terminology in western aspects like square, trines, sextile,

semi-sextile, quincunx etc., are all varying degrees in aspects.

If you care to read the basics in the Classics in Vedic astrology, they are all

there. In order to understand astrology, one needs to understand the philosophy

in each of the literature presented in the Vedas. A life time feat, I agree.

Nebulous aspects to Neptune, Pluto, Uranus etc., are excluded because these

planetary bodies are outside the realms of human astrology as they are on the

loka loka mountains. If I recall correctly, it takes 249 years for Pluto's

traversal and that too, we never know how many years it remains in one sign. As

it affects several generations at any one time, the Maharishis were no fools

when it came to teaching us Cosmology and related subjects. Let's take Uranus

which acts like Rahu. Because western astrology does not understand the Nodes,

the alternative was to take Uranus. But if you go into the philosophy from

Srimad Bhagavatam with regards to those nodes, a much clearer picture is

presented there.

As a bullion trader, the nodes are important including Moon, Sun and the aspect

of Mars is paramount.

Many of us here were western astrologers before. There were too many questions

of my past life left unanswered and the switch over has been God send.

The best chapters in "Vedic" astrology is from Narada Purana. The literature on

planetary vedha caused in Transits is quite extensive, so you might want to

reconsider.

Love,

Swee

January 30, 2006

In the end choose whatever you are comfortable with. I too studied Western

Astrology earlier and even though its approach is sensible, I found the

connection missing and lots of things were left unexplained. Like why does the

Sun have the character, it is potrayed to have. In hindu astrology, we can

understand the same and derive its meaning. Vedas are of immense help in the

same. Again, use whatever you are comfortable with. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn

1/29/06, Tarun Agarwal <

tarun.virgo > wrote:

Dear Swee,