Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 "Bookman Old Style";color:#993366;font-style:italic">| color:#FF0080">|Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Hari and List, Namaskar When there is talk of beejas, it is important that they require diksha, especially in this kali yuga, whereas everyone can do the nama-mantras, i.e. offering namaskar to the deity. The concept of adding beejas to the jyotirlinga mantras emerged after 2004, when i recieved the diksha of one such mantra from the kakatpur (please correct my spelling) seat of Sri Achyuta Dasa. That was a mantra with the beejas of the mrityunjaya. Since then some of us did some deep thinking to figure out the other beejas of the jyotirlingas! However, Sanjayji pointing out the need for having diksha of the beejas to make them effective, went back to his original learning from his Guru and gave the mantras without the beejas. This is safe and works for all. Now this leaves us left with two mantras from the list that you have mentioned. It is important to point out that the rishis were not playing around when they gave the original mantra as Om Namah Shivaaya. Each akshara is vital, and the bhedana in the end of ‘namaH’ should not be omitted for the ishana shadakshari. Hence any gramatical conclusion based on this mantra should be ignored, otherwise the purpose of the mantra literally gets watered down. Now, we could get into an argument about how the mantra should actually be pronounced or written from various perspectives, but i would personally stick to the Shadakshara stotra and the tradition in this regard. The tradition gives the mantra as: “Om Namah Shivaaya Namah (jyotirlinga-name)”. This is advised. Now Ramesh posed a question about effects of worshipping Jyotirlinga vs. Vishnu... First i would recommend studying Sanjayjis paper on Dasamahavidya, wherein he first talks about the concept of the Jyotirlinga, please read this first and then we can talk. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or 10.0pt;font-family:bookman">http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> sohamsa [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath 20 February 2006 11:33 sohamsa RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> + sri gurave namah + font-family:Georgia">Dear Hari font-family:Georgia">This question was asked at the conference and explanation was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this now. font-family:Georgia">With best wishes & warm regards, font-family:Georgia">Yours truly font-family:Georgia">Sanjay Rath font-family:Georgia"> font-family:Georgia">Webpages: color:black">http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com font-family:Georgia">Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India font-family:Georgia">Phone: +91.11.25717162 font-family:Georgia">- 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> Jyotisa Shisya [achyutagaddi ] Monday, February 20, 2006 3:10 PM sohamsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga font-family:Georgia">|om| font-family:Georgia">Dear Visti, namaste 12.0pt"> font-family:Georgia">Thanks for sharing Sanjay's recent teachings at the Delhi conference. I have some questions: A long time back, Narasimha taught that the Jyotirlinga mantra should be derived as follows for example, with reference to Mahakaaleswar jyotirlinga:- 12.0pt"> font-family:Georgia">||om namasshivaaya namo mahakaaleswaraaya|| 12.0pt"> font-family:Georgia">In your mail, the mantra is given as 12.0pt"> font-family:Georgia">||om namah shivaaya namah mahakaaleswaraaya|| 12.0pt"> font-family:Georgia">In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri forum, another version reads as 12.0pt"> font-family:Georgia">||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya hum hum sah|| 12.0pt"> font-family:Georgia">which was labelled as the Uttama (or best) mantra for Mahakaal. I understand the last three words are bijas however. 12.0pt"> font-family:Georgia">Can all these forms be used for worship or is there any specific differentiation? And where can I find the bijas for the other jyotirlingas? In what situations are the use of bijas indicated? 12.0pt"> font-family:Georgia">regards font-family:Georgia">Hari 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> On 2/20/06, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com> wrote: 12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:navy">|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || font-family:Georgia"> 12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:navy">Dear Visti, 12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:navy">Thank you for sharing Sanjayji's teaching with us. This sounds similar to recommendation to worship Dharma Devta. What is the basic difference between worshipping vishnuavatara representing the planet and forms of Shiva represented by Jyotirlinga signified by a rashi? Georgia"> 12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:navy">Devtas are selected based on planets placed or lords in case there are no planets placed in the house. In case of Jyotirlingas focus is on planets that get exalted and not the lords, why? ( e.g. Vishwanatha is the jyotirlinga for Ketu graha and Sagittarius rashi.) 12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:navy">Best Wishes, Ramesh font-family:Georgia"> 12.0pt"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [ ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:16 AM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">||Hare Rama Krsna|| 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">Dear Twinkle, Namaskar 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">First you need to learn the mapping of the Jyotirlinga to the signs. I have given this below in a south-indian style (guru chakra)... try to learn this by hand. font-family:"Courier New";color:black">+--------------+ font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| Tryambaka |Rameshvara | Somanatha | Nageshvara| font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">|-----------+-----------------------+-----------| font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| Kedarnatha| | Omkaresha | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">|-----------| Jyotilinga |-----------| font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">|Bhimashankara |Vaidyanatha| font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">|-----------+-----------------------+-----------| font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | Malika- | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">|Vishvanatha|Ghrshanesha|Mahakalesha| arjuna | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">| | | | | font-family:"Courier New";color:black">+--------------+ 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">Jyotirlinga Rasi – taught by Pt. Sanjay Rath in Delhi 2006. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">So first thing is to pick the MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga for yourself, which will constantly shine on your face and bring you name, fame, health and intelligence, etc. This is based on the Moon and Arudha lagna. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">Here are the steps: Compare the KENDRA from the Chandra rasi, and TRIKONA from the Arudha Lagna rasi, and see which sign is COMMON in these two groups. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">Example: For Moon in Vrshabha, the fixed signs are kendra, so the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed sign. Now if Arudha lagna is in Simha, then the Jyotirlinga must be an agni rasi (Mesha, Simha and Dhanus). So the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed-agni rasi. This becomes Simha rasi, as its both a fixed sign and an agni sign. So the Jyotirlinga would be Vaidyanatha, as this corresponds to Simha. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">This is the Jyotirlinga you can worship throughout life to have succes in life and gain your objective. The specific effects mentioned are: removal of the sins of last births and rememberance of past lives. Ability to see God/attain devatadarshana, and more... 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">How to worship? 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">All Jyotirlingas are forms of Shiva, and we are to worship the Jyotirlinga with the Isana Shadakshari mantra. The parampara teaches that this should be done by reciting the Isana shadakshari, adding 'namah' and then the name of the jyotirlinga. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">For example: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah "Vaidyanathaaya".. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">Misc. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">For different purposes, the grahas are mapped to these rasis based on their exaltation sign. I.e. For Venus its Tryambakeshvara, as Venus gets exalted in Pisces, where Tryambakeshvara Jyotirlinga sits. So if you wanted to specifically remedy Venus, you could advise Tryambakeshvara IF you find that becoming needful in the chart. Generally because the atmakaraka is like shiva, worship of the Jyotirlinga of atmakaraka-graha can give great strength to face difficult times or even help you adapt to big changes. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">Now i expect you to teach this to everyone who asks in the future... or merely keep this mail saved somewhere for future references. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">For more, expect to see an article by Pt. Sanjay Rath in the next Jyotish Digest. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">Best wishes, 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">*** 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">For services and articles visit: 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">*** 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black"> [] On Behalf Of Twinkle Vijaywargiya 18 February 2006 14:38 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">dear vistiji! 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">how do we decide on the jyotirlinga which one need to worship??in 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">this case i can gather that for brahman shapa we need to worship 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">rameshwara jyotirlinga as worshiped by lord rama .pls enlighten me on 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">this subject. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">thanx 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">regards 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">twinkle 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">--- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > wrote: 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Dear Sunil, Namaskar 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Indeed your karmas have showered a great deal of obstacles on you. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> The 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> problems excalated from July 2002 and gave you a great shock after 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> May 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 2003-March 2004. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Since January 2005 a change has occured, but only barely as you are 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> still 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> not able to do your karma yoga, and have created alot of financial 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> insecurity since Jan-Nov 2005. A change has occured in the last few 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> months, 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> and you are rethinking your life and approach. Hang in there. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> All this is using narayana dasa. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> The main problem in your chart is not the Tattva Badhaka in the 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> eighth house 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> (which does not require the donation of an idol) but the Brahmin 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> shaap in 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> the twelfth house. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> The way out is to worship Shiva as the Rameshvara Jyotirlinga, 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> which will 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> not only life you out of the curse, but can also grant you a new 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> job. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> The mantra is: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah Rameshvaraaya. This should 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> be done 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> for atleast 5 malas a day. Just do this for 40 days and see the 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> results, 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> then let us know. You can do this instead of the shiva mantra you 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> normally 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> practice. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Best wishes, 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> *** 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> For services and articles visit: 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> *** 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> -----Original Message----- 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> [ ] On 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Behalf Of sunilsingh20022001 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 17 February 2006 18:34 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Respected Visti Ji, 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> I am facing worst time of my life.I am out of job since 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 2003.I tried my best but I could not have found the new job till 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> the date.In last year I was advised by an astrologer that in my 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> chart there is curse of deity (badhakesh sun in 8th house aspected 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> by mars).So I donated idol of Ram after Pranpratishtha in a 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> temple.He told me that no gem will work as 4th and 5th lord Saturn 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> is debilitated in 7th.9th lord mercury is in 8th and lagna lord 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> venus in 6th house. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> I worship regularly five deities (Ganesh,Sun,Shiv,Vishnu and 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Durga).I observe fasting on full moon days (not satyanarayana 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> vrat).But no remedy seems to work. Probably my method is not 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> correct. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Please analyze my horoscope,whether there is any ray of hope and 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> what is stored in my future. Please suggest remedies to get rid of 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> my problem.I am really broken. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> My Birth Details- 27th May 1969,T.O.B 16.05 IST,Delhi (India) 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Regards 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Sunil 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> that the 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> reading today 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Links 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> ------------------------ Sponsor 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> --------------------~--> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> and healing 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">--~-> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> reading today 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> Links 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black"> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black"> 10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:black">Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Others may corrrect me if I have made a mistake. I was at the conference and remember this being said.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 2/20/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: | |Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Hari and List, Namaskar When there is talk of beejas, it is important that they require diksha, especially in this kali yuga, whereas everyone can do the nama-mantras, i.e. offering namaskar to the deity. The concept of adding beejas to the jyotirlinga mantras emerged after 2004, when i recieved the diksha of one such mantra from the kakatpur (please correct my spelling) seat of Sri Achyuta Dasa. That was a mantra with the beejas of the mrityunjaya. Since then some of us did some deep thinking to figure out the other beejas of the jyotirlingas! However, Sanjayji pointing out the need for having diksha of the beejas to make them effective, went back to his original learning from his Guru and gave the mantras without the beejas. This is safe and works for all. Now this leaves us left with two mantras from the list that you have mentioned. It is important to point out that the rishis were not playing around when they gave the original mantra as Om Namah Shivaaya. Each akshara is vital, and the bhedana in the end of 'namaH' should not be omitted for the ishana shadakshari. Hence any gramatical conclusion based on this mantra should be ignored, otherwise the purpose of the mantra literally gets watered down. Now, we could get into an argument about how the mantra should actually be pronounced or written from various perspectives, but i would personally stick to the Shadakshara stotra and the tradition in this regard. The tradition gives the mantra as: "Om Namah Shivaaya Namah (jyotirlinga-name)". This is advised. Now Ramesh posed a question about effects of worshipping Jyotirlinga vs. Vishnu... First i would recommend studying Sanjayjis paper on Dasamahavidya, wherein he first talks about the concept of the Jyotirlinga, please read this first and then we can talk. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [ sohamsa] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath 20 February 2006 11:33 sohamsa RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga + sri gurave namah + Dear Hari This question was asked at the conference and explanation was given...lets see if anyone was awake at the conference and can explain this now. With best wishes & warm regards, Yours truly Sanjay Rath Webpages: http://srath.com http://.org http://sjcerc.com Atri SJC: 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India Phone: +91.11.25717162 - Jyotisa Shisya [achyutagaddi ] Monday, February 20, 2006 3:10 PM sohamsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga |om| Dear Visti, namaste Thanks for sharing Sanjay's recent teachings at the Delhi conference. I have some questions: A long time back, Narasimha taught that the Jyotirlinga mantra should be derived as follows for example, with reference to Mahakaaleswar jyotirlinga:- ||om namasshivaaya namo mahakaaleswaraaya|| In your mail, the mantra is given as ||om namah shivaaya namah mahakaaleswaraaya|| In Sanjays recent teachings on SJC-Atri forum, another version reads as ||om namah shivaaya mahakaaleswaraaya hum hum sah|| which was labelled as the Uttama (or best) mantra for Mahakaal. I understand the last three words are bijas however. Can all these forms be used for worship or is there any specific differentiation? And where can I find the bijas for the other jyotirlingas? In what situations are the use of bijas indicated? regards Hari On 2/20/06, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com> wrote: || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Visti, Thank you for sharing Sanjayji's teaching with us. This sounds similar to recommendation to worship Dharma Devta. What is the basic difference between worshipping vishnuavatara representing the planet and forms of Shiva represented by Jyotirlinga signified by a rashi? Devtas are selected based on planets placed or lords in case there are no planets placed in the house. In case of Jyotirlingas focus is on planets that get exalted and not the lords, why? ( e.g. Vishwanatha is the jyotirlinga for Ketu graha and Sagittarius rashi.) Best Wishes , Ramesh [ ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:16 AM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Twinkle, Namaskar First you need to learn the mapping of the Jyotirlinga to the signs. I have given this below in a south-indian style (guru chakra)... try to learn this by hand. +--------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | Tryambaka |Rameshvara | Somanatha | Nageshvara| | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | | | | | | | | Kedarnatha| | Omkaresha | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Jyotilinga |-----------| | | | | | | | | |Bhimashankara |Vaidyanatha| | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | | | | | | | | Malika- | |Vishvanatha|Ghrshanesha|Mahakalesha| arjuna | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Jyotirlinga Rasi – taught by Pt. Sanjay Rath in Delhi 2006. So first thing is to pick the MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga for yourself, which will constantly shine on your face and bring you name, fame, health and intelligence, etc. This is based on the Moon and Arudha lagna. Here are the steps: Compare the KENDRA from the Chandra rasi, and TRIKONA from the Arudha Lagna rasi, and see which sign is COMMON in these two groups. Example: For Moon in Vrshabha, the fixed signs are kendra, so the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed sign. Now if Arudha lagna is in Simha, then the Jyotirlinga must be an agni rasi (Mesha, Simha and Dhanus). So the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed-agni rasi. This becomes Simha rasi, as its both a fixed sign and an agni sign. So the Jyotirlinga would be Vaidyanatha, as this corresponds to Simha. This is the Jyotirlinga you can worship throughout life to have succes in life and gain your objective. The specific effects mentioned are: removal of the sins of last births and rememberance of past lives. Ability to see God/attain devatadarshana, and more... How to worship? All Jyotirlingas are forms of Shiva, and we are to worship the Jyotirlinga with the Isana Shadakshari mantra. The parampara teaches that this should be done by reciting the Isana shadakshari, adding 'namah' and then the name of the jyotirlinga. For example: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah "Vaidyanathaaya".. Misc. For different purposes, the grahas are mapped to these rasis based on their exaltation sign. I.e. For Venus its Tryambakeshvara, as Venus gets exalted in Pisces, where Tryambakeshvara Jyotirlinga sits. So if you wanted to specifically remedy Venus, you could advise Tryambakeshvara IF you find that becoming needful in the chart. Generally because the atmakaraka is like shiva, worship of the Jyotirlinga of atmakaraka-graha can give great strength to face difficult times or even help you adapt to big changes. Now i expect you to teach this to everyone who asks in the future... or merely keep this mail saved somewhere for future references. For more, expect to see an article by Pt. Sanjay Rath in the next Jyotish Digest. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Twinkle Vijaywargiya 18 February 2006 14:38 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help dear vistiji! how do we decide on the jyotirlinga which one need to worship??in this case i can gather that for brahman shapa we need to worship rameshwara jyotirlinga as worshiped by lord rama .pls enlighten me on this subject. thanx regards twinkle --- Visti Larsen < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Sunil, Namaskar > Indeed your karmas have showered a great deal of obstacles on you. > The > problems excalated from July 2002 and gave you a great shock after > May > 2003-March 2004. > Since January 2005 a change has occured, but only barely as you are > still > not able to do your karma yoga, and have created alot of financial > insecurity since Jan-Nov 2005. A change has occured in the last few > months, > and you are rethinking your life and approach. Hang in there. > All this is using narayana dasa. > The main problem in your chart is not the Tattva Badhaka in the > eighth house > (which does not require the donation of an idol) but the Brahmin > shaap in > the twelfth house. > The way out is to worship Shiva as the Rameshvara Jyotirlinga, > which will > not only life you out of the curse, but can also grant you a new > job. > The mantra is: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah Rameshvaraaya. This should > be done > for atleast 5 malas a day. Just do this for 40 days and see the > results, > then let us know. You can do this instead of the shiva mantra you > normally > practice. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > -----Original Message----- > > [ ] On > Behalf Of sunilsingh20022001 > 17 February 2006 18:34 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help > > Respected Visti Ji, > I am facing worst time of my life.I am out of job since > 2003.I tried my best but I could not have found the new job till > the date.In last year I was advised by an astrologer that in my > chart there is curse of deity (badhakesh sun in 8th house aspected > by mars).So I donated idol of Ram after Pranpratishtha in a > temple.He told me that no gem will work as 4th and 5th lord Saturn > is debilitated in 7th.9th lord mercury is in 8th and lagna lord > venus in 6th house. > I worship regularly five deities (Ganesh,Sun,Shiv,Vishnu and > Durga).I observe fasting on full moon days (not satyanarayana > vrat).But no remedy seems to work. Probably my method is not > correct. > Please analyze my horoscope,whether there is any ray of hope and > what is stored in my future. Please suggest remedies to get rid of > my problem.I am really broken. > My Birth Details- 27th May 1969,T.O.B 16.05 IST,Delhi (India) > > Regards > Sunil > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > Links > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope > and healing > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > Links > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Visti, Your original mail showing the method of working out the mantra is reproduced below for those who need to refer to it. I have now read Sanjayji's paper on dasamahavidyas. This mail is an effort to understand it better. Shiva linga is explained as changeless axle with Braham at bottom, Vishnu at upper middle and Sadasiva at the apex. One such shivlinga is elliptical plane with earth at centre, Sun in the east and rest as per kalachakra. >From horizontal plane perspective, Vishnu is at top, Shiva in the middle and Brahma at the bottom. The article also explains the logic of reversal of ra-ha to give hara(Shiva) or hari(Vishnu) to reverse the negative effects of Rahu (direction signified by Rahu). The Delhi lectures on kalachakra discuss Rahu in NE direction ruled by Isana and Jupiter in the same direction in Digchakra. Can you walk me through further and explain logic for choosing forms of shiva at times and vishnu avataras at other time! Kindly also explain the logic for taking quadrant from Moon and trine from AL. Thank you, Ramesh [] On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniSunday, February 19, 2006 2:33 PMTo: Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantra for MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Visti, Thank you for sharing Sanjayji's teaching with us. This sounds similar to recommendation to worship Dharma Devta. What is the basic difference between worshipping vishnuavatara representing the planet and forms of Shiva represented by Jyotirlinga signified by a rashi? Devtas are selected based on planets placed or lords in case there are no planets placed in the house. In case of Jyotirlingas focus is on planets that get exalted and not the lords, why? (e.g. Vishwanatha is the jyotirlinga for Ketu graha and Sagittarius rashi.) Best Wishes, Ramesh [] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenSaturday, February 18, 2006 9:16 AMTo: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Twinkle, Namaskar First you need to learn the mapping of the Jyotirlinga to the signs. I have given this below in a south-indian style (guru chakra)... try to learn this by hand. +--------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | Tryambaka |Rameshvara | Somanatha | Nageshvara| | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | | | | | | | | Kedarnatha| | Omkaresha | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Jyotilinga |-----------| | | | | | | | | |Bhimashankara |Vaidyanatha| | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | | | | | | | | Malika- | |Vishvanatha|Ghrshanesha|Mahakalesha| arjuna | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Jyotirlinga Rasi – taught by Pt. Sanjay Rath in Delhi 2006. So first thing is to pick the MOST auspicious Jyotirlinga for yourself, which will constantly shine on your face and bring you name, fame, health and intelligence, etc. This is based on the Moon and Arudha lagna. Here are the steps: Compare the KENDRA from the Chandra rasi, and TRIKONA from the Arudha Lagna rasi, and see which sign is COMMON in these two groups. Example: For Moon in Vrshabha, the fixed signs are kendra, so the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed sign. Now if Arudha lagna is in Simha, then the Jyotirlinga must be an agni rasi (Mesha, Simha and Dhanus). So the Jyotirlinga must be a fixed-agni rasi. This becomes Simha rasi, as its both a fixed sign and an agni sign. So the Jyotirlinga would be Vaidyanatha, as this corresponds to Simha. This is the Jyotirlinga you can worship throughout life to have succes in life and gain your objective. The specific effects mentioned are: removal of the sins of last births and rememberance of past lives. Ability to see God/attain devatadarshana, and more... How to worship? All Jyotirlingas are forms of Shiva, and we are to worship the Jyotirlinga with the Isana Shadakshari mantra. The parampara teaches that this should be done by reciting the Isana shadakshari, adding ‘namah’ and then the name of the jyotirlinga. For example: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah “Vaidyanathaaya”.. Misc. For different purposes, the grahas are mapped to these rasis based on their exaltation sign. I.e. For Venus its Tryambakeshvara, as Venus gets exalted in Pisces, where Tryambakeshvara Jyotirlinga sits. So if you wanted to specifically remedy Venus, you could advise Tryambakeshvara IF you find that becoming needful in the chart. Generally because the atmakaraka is like shiva, worship of the Jyotirlinga of atmakaraka-graha can give great strength to face difficult times or even help you adapt to big changes. Now i expect you to teach this to everyone who asks in the future... or merely keep this mail saved somewhere for future references. For more, expect to see an article by Pt. Sanjay Rath in the next Jyotish Digest. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Twinkle Vijaywargiya18 February 2006 14:38Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help dear vistiji! how do we decide on the jyotirlinga which one need to worship??in this case i can gather that for brahman shapa we need to worship rameshwara jyotirlinga as worshiped by lord rama .pls enlighten me on this subject. thanx regards twinkle --- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Sunil, Namaskar > Indeed your karmas have showered a great deal of obstacles on you. > The > problems excalated from July 2002 and gave you a great shock after > May > 2003-March 2004. > Since January 2005 a change has occured, but only barely as you are > still > not able to do your karma yoga, and have created alot of financial > insecurity since Jan-Nov 2005. A change has occured in the last few > months, > and you are rethinking your life and approach. Hang in there. > All this is using narayana dasa. > The main problem in your chart is not the Tattva Badhaka in the > eighth house > (which does not require the donation of an idol) but the Brahmin > shaap in > the twelfth house. > The way out is to worship Shiva as the Rameshvara Jyotirlinga, > which will > not only life you out of the curse, but can also grant you a new > job. > The mantra is: Om Namah Shivaaya Namah Rameshvaraaya. This should > be done > for atleast 5 malas a day. Just do this for 40 days and see the > results, > then let us know. You can do this instead of the shiva mantra you > normally > practice. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > > > [] On > Behalf Of sunilsingh20022001 > 17 February 2006 18:34 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Visti Ji Please Help > > Respected Visti Ji, > I am facing worst time of my life.I am out of job since > 2003.I tried my best but I could not have found the new job till > the date.In last year I was advised by an astrologer that in my > chart there is curse of deity (badhakesh sun in 8th house aspected > by mars).So I donated idol of Ram after Pranpratishtha in a > temple.He told me that no gem will work as 4th and 5th lord Saturn > is debilitated in 7th.9th lord mercury is in 8th and lagna lord > venus in 6th house. > I worship regularly five deities (Ganesh,Sun,Shiv,Vishnu and > Durga).I observe fasting on full moon days (not satyanarayana > vrat).But no remedy seems to work. Probably my method is not > correct. > Please analyze my horoscope,whether there is any ray of hope and > what is stored in my future. Please suggest remedies to get rid of > my problem.I am really broken. > My Birth Details- 27th May 1969,T.O.B 16.05 IST,Delhi (India) > > Regards > Sunil > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > Links > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope > and healing > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > Links > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM --~-> ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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