Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Namaskar, I am having some doubt on predicting Second child DOB: 19-Jan-1978 TOB: 07:05 AM POB:Machilipatnam, Andhra Pradesh,INDIA. Following is the Saptamsha. +--------------+ |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Me | |Gk AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saptamsa | | |-----------| |-----------| | | D-7 |Su Ve | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Because Jupiter who is the lord for 7th house in saptamsha cojoined with Rahu who is exalted in a Male sign shall we consider the second baby is Male? Or 7th Rasi is a female rasi and Mars is under retrogression and viewed by retrograted Saturn from a female rasi so shoud we consider it as female? And also from Astakavargas of this chart from SAV the Rasi which was occupied by 7th Lord is the strongest one than the 7th Rasi. So I am getting confused in predicting the Gender. Can anyone in this group can teach me how to conclude this? And also I am interested to know how to time the birth of the second baby? Regards, Upendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Dear Upendra-ji, namaskar. Lord of the child Ju is conjunct with Rahu in Mithuna Rasi. Mithuna shows female sign. However the fact that Ra is a male graha and Ju is a male graha can give a male child. The only difficulty is that Ju doesn't like Rahu at all and is retrograde and might end up giving a female child. However, Mo is exalted in the 5H and alone giving predominantly female issues. Hence, I understand your situation and your dilemma. However there is another dictum that says that male child is born in the kendra/kona of the father's saptamsa Mo. Here the lagna of the child (Pi) and the said planets are kendra to Mo. My intuition says that it could be a male child but with difficulty. Pray to Mother Durga (Mo exalted) as she will remove troubles of Ra. Ju's conjuction with Ra makes pregnancy definitely difficult and you may not expect a third child. What does mother's chart show ? For reference, please read: http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm Best wishes and Good Luck, - Sourav ===============================================--- In , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni wrote:>> Namaskar,> > I am having some doubt on predicting Second child> > DOB: 19-Jan-1978 TOB: 07:05 AM POB:Machilipatnam, Andhra > Pradesh,INDIA.> > Following is the Saptamsha.> > +--------------+> |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> |Me | |Gk AL |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | Saptamsa | |> |-----------| |-----------|> | | D-7 |Su Ve |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> +--------------+> > > Because Jupiter who is the lord for 7th house in saptamsha cojoined > with Rahu who is exalted in a Male sign shall we consider the second > baby is Male? Or 7th Rasi is a female rasi and Mars is under > retrogression and viewed by retrograted Saturn from a female rasi so > shoud we consider it as female?> > And also from Astakavargas of this chart from SAV the Rasi which was > occupied by 7th Lord is the strongest one than the 7th Rasi. So I am > getting confused in predicting the Gender.> > Can anyone in this group can teach me how to conclude this?> > And also I am interested to know how to time the birth of the second > baby?> > Regards,> Upendra> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 aum gurave namah! namaste upendra ji! i feel this can be a boy this time.second child lord jupiter is placed in gemeni though a female sign but with rahu (male ) the infleunce of planets present with the child lord prevails rather than that of sign.let the other learned members guide us further! regards twinkle --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni wrote: > Namaskar, > > I am having some doubt on predicting Second child > > DOB: 19-Jan-1978 TOB: 07:05 AM POB:Machilipatnam, Andhra > Pradesh,INDIA. > > Following is the Saptamsha. > > +--------------+ > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Me | |Gk AL | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | Saptamsa | | > |-----------| |-----------| > | | D-7 |Su Ve | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > > Because Jupiter who is the lord for 7th house in saptamsha cojoined > > with Rahu who is exalted in a Male sign shall we consider the > second > baby is Male? Or 7th Rasi is a female rasi and Mars is under > retrogression and viewed by retrograted Saturn from a female rasi > so > shoud we consider it as female? > > And also from Astakavargas of this chart from SAV the Rasi which > was > occupied by 7th Lord is the strongest one than the 7th Rasi. So I > am > getting confused in predicting the Gender. > > Can anyone in this group can teach me how to conclude this? > > And also I am interested to know how to time the birth of the > second > baby? > > Regards, > Upendra > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope > and healing > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hi Sourav ji, Here is mothers saptamsa. Her DOB: 24-Jul-1978, TOB : 03:05 AM , POB: Visakhapatnam,INDIA. +--------------+ | |Ra | |As GL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Su Ma | |Gk | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saptamsa | | |-----------| |-----------| | | D-7 |Mo Me | | | |HL | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Ju Ve | |Ke Md |Sa | | | |AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Based on this chart too led me in confusion. though karaka & Lord of second child(JU) is in his place, he is with a female planet Ve. So Kindly clarify my doubt and also please advise me where can i get good stuff to solve this type of confusions. Regards, Upendra , "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Upendra-ji, > > namaskar. Lord of the child Ju is > conjunct with Rahu in Mithuna Rasi. Mithuna shows female sign. However > the fact that Ra is a male graha and Ju is a male graha can give a male > child. The only difficulty is that Ju doesn't like Rahu at all and is > retrograde and might end up giving a female child. However, Mo is > exalted in the 5H and alone giving predominantly female issues. Hence, I > understand your situation and your dilemma. However there is another > dictum that says that male child is born in the kendra/kona of the > father's saptamsa Mo. Here the lagna of the child (Pi) and the said > planets are kendra to Mo. My intuition says that it could be a male > child but with difficulty. Pray to Mother Durga (Mo exalted) as she will > remove troubles of Ra. > > Ju's conjuction with Ra makes pregnancy definitely difficult and you may > not expect a third child. What does mother's chart show ? > > For reference, please read: > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm> > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm> > > Best wishes and Good Luck, > > - Sourav > > =============================================== > , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni@> > wrote: > > > > Namaskar, > > > > I am having some doubt on predicting Second child > > > > DOB: 19-Jan-1978 TOB: 07:05 AM POB:Machilipatnam, Andhra > > Pradesh,INDIA. > > > > Following is the Saptamsha. > > > > +--------------+ > > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Me | |Gk AL | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | Saptamsa | | > > |-----------| |-----------| > > | | D-7 |Su Ve | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > > > Because Jupiter who is the lord for 7th house in saptamsha cojoined > > with Rahu who is exalted in a Male sign shall we consider the second > > baby is Male? Or 7th Rasi is a female rasi and Mars is under > > retrogression and viewed by retrograted Saturn from a female rasi so > > shoud we consider it as female? > > > > And also from Astakavargas of this chart from SAV the Rasi which was > > occupied by 7th Lord is the strongest one than the 7th Rasi. So I am > > getting confused in predicting the Gender. > > > > Can anyone in this group can teach me how to conclude this? > > > > And also I am interested to know how to time the birth of the second > > baby? > > > > Regards, > > Upendra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Respected Gurus, For better judgement I am also giving all the three charts Father's Saptamsa +--------------+ |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Me | |Gk AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saptamsa | | |-----------| |-----------| | | D-7 |Su Ve | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Mothers Saptamsa +--------------+ | |Ra | |As GL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Su Ma | |Gk | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saptamsa | | |-----------| |-----------| | | D-7 |Mo Me | | | |HL | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Ju Ve | |Ke Md |Sa | | | |AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Daughters Drekkana +--------------+ |MeR Md |Ra |Ju |Ma | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | |As Su | | | |SaR HL | | | | | | | | | | | Drekkana | | |-----------| |-----------| | | D-3 |Mo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |GL |Ve |Ke Gk |AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ I hope this would be more useful in predicting second child. Regards, Upendra , "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Upendra-ji, > > namaskar. Lord of the child Ju is > conjunct with Rahu in Mithuna Rasi. Mithuna shows female sign. However > the fact that Ra is a male graha and Ju is a male graha can give a male > child. The only difficulty is that Ju doesn't like Rahu at all and is > retrograde and might end up giving a female child. However, Mo is > exalted in the 5H and alone giving predominantly female issues. Hence, I > understand your situation and your dilemma. However there is another > dictum that says that male child is born in the kendra/kona of the > father's saptamsa Mo. Here the lagna of the child (Pi) and the said > planets are kendra to Mo. My intuition says that it could be a male > child but with difficulty. Pray to Mother Durga (Mo exalted) as she will > remove troubles of Ra. > > Ju's conjuction with Ra makes pregnancy definitely difficult and you may > not expect a third child. What does mother's chart show ? > > For reference, please read: > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm> > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm> > > Best wishes and Good Luck, > > - Sourav > > =============================================== > , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni@> > wrote: > > > > Namaskar, > > > > I am having some doubt on predicting Second child > > > > DOB: 19-Jan-1978 TOB: 07:05 AM POB:Machilipatnam, Andhra > > Pradesh,INDIA. > > > > Following is the Saptamsha. > > > > +--------------+ > > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Me | |Gk AL | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | Saptamsa | | > > |-----------| |-----------| > > | | D-7 |Su Ve | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > > > Because Jupiter who is the lord for 7th house in saptamsha cojoined > > with Rahu who is exalted in a Male sign shall we consider the second > > baby is Male? Or 7th Rasi is a female rasi and Mars is under > > retrogression and viewed by retrograted Saturn from a female rasi so > > shoud we consider it as female? > > > > And also from Astakavargas of this chart from SAV the Rasi which was > > occupied by 7th Lord is the strongest one than the 7th Rasi. So I am > > getting confused in predicting the Gender. > > > > Can anyone in this group can teach me how to conclude this? > > > > And also I am interested to know how to time the birth of the second > > baby? > > > > Regards, > > Upendra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Dear Upendra, namaskar. Mother's chart removes all doubts that it would be a girl child. Lord of child is Ju with Ve. Although the sign is male sign, Ve is there for girl child. If the lord of chils is alone then give importance to the sign but if not, then give importance to the dominant graha with which it conjoins. I prefer not to use Daughter's Drekkana to see the gender of her siblings for other matters it is okay but in case of gender sometimes it does not give the correct result. When I am writing this, I cast a prashna chart and saw that Ve is in Dhanur Rasi in Lagna ! Ofcourse Ve will dominate as Ve is the 5L in your wife's Chart (more so in your chart as well). Mother's chart is more of importance as she is the one who is conceiving and delivering the child. In any case, Mo in exaltation in your fifth house gives predominantly female issues. The child will have predominantly Ju and Ve influence in the lagna. Going by Mother's chart, the child will have an excellent Hamsa Yoga ! All this is according to the given birth time of Mother and is not rectified. (1) Now explain to us (from Mother's Chart) why first child is female. (2) How accurate is Mother's birth data; has it been rectified and if so what what was the original data and how was it rectified. If not rectified, do you think it needs to be ? Also read the explanation of Chart 2 in Sanjay-ji's article I sent you the link for in the previous message. Hope for the best, Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================--- In , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni wrote:>> Respected Gurus,> > For better judgement I am also giving all the three charts > > Father's Saptamsa> > +--------------+> |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> |Me | |Gk AL |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | Saptamsa | |> |-----------| |-----------|> | | D-7 |Su Ve |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> +--------------+> > Mothers Saptamsa> > +--------------+> | |Ra | |As GL |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> |Su Ma | |Gk |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | Saptamsa | |> |-----------| |-----------|> | | D-7 |Mo Me |> | | |HL |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> |Ju Ve | |Ke Md |Sa |> | | |AL | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> +--------------+> > Daughters Drekkana> > +--------------+> |MeR Md |Ra |Ju |Ma |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> | | |As Su |> | | |SaR HL |> | | | |> | | | |> | | Drekkana | |> |-----------| |-----------|> | | D-3 |Mo |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> |GL |Ve |Ke Gk |AL |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> +--------------+> > I hope this would be more useful in predicting second child.> > Regards,> Upendra> > > --- In , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > Dear Upendra-ji,> > > > namaskar. Lord of the child Ju > is> > conjunct with Rahu in Mithuna Rasi. Mithuna shows female sign. > However> > the fact that Ra is a male graha and Ju is a male graha can give a > male> > child. The only difficulty is that Ju doesn't like Rahu at all and > is> > retrograde and might end up giving a female child. However, Mo is> > exalted in the 5H and alone giving predominantly female issues. > Hence, I> > understand your situation and your dilemma. However there is another> > dictum that says that male child is born in the kendra/kona of the> > father's saptamsa Mo. Here the lagna of the child (Pi) and the said> > planets are kendra to Mo. My intuition says that it could be a male> > child but with difficulty. Pray to Mother Durga (Mo exalted) as she > will> > remove troubles of Ra.> > > > Ju's conjuction with Ra makes pregnancy definitely difficult and > you may> > not expect a third child. What does mother's chart show ?> > > > For reference, please read:> > > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm> > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm>> > > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm> > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm>> > > > Best wishes and Good Luck,> > > > - Sourav> > > > ===============================================> > , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Namaskar,> > >> > > I am having some doubt on predicting Second child> > >> > > DOB: 19-Jan-1978 TOB: 07:05 AM POB:Machilipatnam, Andhra> > > Pradesh,INDIA.> > >> > > Following is the Saptamsha.> > >> > > +--------------+> > > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |Me | |Gk AL |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | Saptamsa | |> > > |-----------| |-----------|> > > | | D-7 |Su Ve |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > +--------------+> > >> > >> > > Because Jupiter who is the lord for 7th house in saptamsha > cojoined> > > with Rahu who is exalted in a Male sign shall we consider the > second> > > baby is Male? Or 7th Rasi is a female rasi and Mars is under> > > retrogression and viewed by retrograted Saturn from a female rasi > so> > > shoud we consider it as female?> > >> > > And also from Astakavargas of this chart from SAV the Rasi which > was> > > occupied by 7th Lord is the strongest one than the 7th Rasi. So I > am> > > getting confused in predicting the Gender.> > >> > > Can anyone in this group can teach me how to conclude this?> > >> > > And also I am interested to know how to time the birth of the > second> > > baby?> > >> > > Regards,> > > Upendra> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Regarding your questions I am still a small learner in Astrology I can say 100% my birth data is correct whereas the Mothers and Daughters Birth time should be rectified. I think the mothers chart Birth time needs to be rectified as it is not even matching my navamsa. Regards, Upendra , "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Upendra, > > namaskar. Mother's chart removes all > doubts that it would be a girl child. Lord of child is Ju with Ve. > Although the sign is male sign, Ve is there for girl child. If the lord > of chils is alone then give importance to the sign but if not, then give > importance to the dominant graha with which it conjoins. I prefer not to > use Daughter's Drekkana to see the gender of her siblings for other > matters it is okay but in case of gender sometimes it does not give the > correct result. > > When I am writing this, I cast a prashna chart and saw that Ve is in > Dhanur Rasi in Lagna ! Ofcourse Ve will dominate as Ve is the 5L in your > wife's Chart (more so in your chart as well). Mother's chart is more of > importance as she is the one who is conceiving and delivering the child. > In any case, Mo in exaltation in your fifth house gives predominantly > female issues. > > The child will have predominantly Ju and Ve influence in the lagna. > Going by Mother's chart, the child will have an excellent Hamsa Yoga ! > > All this is according to the given birth time of Mother and is not > rectified. > > (1) Now explain to us (from Mother's Chart) why first child is female. > > (2) How accurate is Mother's birth data; has it been rectified and if so > what what was the original data and how was it rectified. If not > rectified, do you think it needs to be ? > > Also read the explanation of Chart 2 in Sanjay-ji's article I sent you > the link for in the previous message. > > Hope for the best, > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================ > , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > For better judgement I am also giving all the three charts > > > > Father's Saptamsa > > > > +--------------+ > > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Me | |Gk AL | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | Saptamsa | | > > |-----------| |-----------| > > | | D-7 |Su Ve | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > Mothers Saptamsa > > > > +--------------+ > > | |Ra | |As GL | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Su Ma | |Gk | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | Saptamsa | | > > |-----------| |-----------| > > | | D-7 |Mo Me | > > | | |HL | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Ju Ve | |Ke Md |Sa | > > | | |AL | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > Daughters Drekkana > > > > +--------------+ > > |MeR Md |Ra |Ju |Ma | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > | | |As Su | > > | | |SaR HL | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | Drekkana | | > > |-----------| |-----------| > > | | D-3 |Mo | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |GL |Ve |Ke Gk |AL | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > I hope this would be more useful in predicting second child. > > > > Regards, > > Upendra > > > > > > , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Upendra-ji, > > > > > > namaskar. Lord of the child Ju > > is > > > conjunct with Rahu in Mithuna Rasi. Mithuna shows female sign. > > However > > > the fact that Ra is a male graha and Ju is a male graha can give a > > male > > > child. The only difficulty is that Ju doesn't like Rahu at all and > > is > > > retrograde and might end up giving a female child. However, Mo is > > > exalted in the 5H and alone giving predominantly female issues. > > Hence, I > > > understand your situation and your dilemma. However there is another > > > dictum that says that male child is born in the kendra/kona of the > > > father's saptamsa Mo. Here the lagna of the child (Pi) and the said > > > planets are kendra to Mo. My intuition says that it could be a male > > > child but with difficulty. Pray to Mother Durga (Mo exalted) as she > > will > > > remove troubles of Ra. > > > > > > Ju's conjuction with Ra makes pregnancy definitely difficult and > > you may > > > not expect a third child. What does mother's chart show ? > > > > > > For reference, please read: > > > > > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm > > > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm> > > > > > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm > > > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm> > > > > > > Best wishes and Good Luck, > > > > > > - Sourav > > > > > > =============================================== > > > , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > I am having some doubt on predicting Second child > > > > > > > > DOB: 19-Jan-1978 TOB: 07:05 AM POB:Machilipatnam, Andhra > > > > Pradesh,INDIA. > > > > > > > > Following is the Saptamsha. > > > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |Me | |Gk AL | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | Saptamsa | | > > > > |-----------| |-----------| > > > > | | D-7 |Su Ve | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > Because Jupiter who is the lord for 7th house in saptamsha > > cojoined > > > > with Rahu who is exalted in a Male sign shall we consider the > > second > > > > baby is Male? Or 7th Rasi is a female rasi and Mars is under > > > > retrogression and viewed by retrograted Saturn from a female rasi > > so > > > > shoud we consider it as female? > > > > > > > > And also from Astakavargas of this chart from SAV the Rasi which > > was > > > > occupied by 7th Lord is the strongest one than the 7th Rasi. So I > > am > > > > getting confused in predicting the Gender. > > > > > > > > Can anyone in this group can teach me how to conclude this? > > > > > > > > And also I am interested to know how to time the birth of the > > second > > > > baby? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Upendra > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Dear Upendra, namaskar. Provide your daughter's birth data along with your and your wife's data in one message for convenience. Around which time are you expecting the second child? Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni wrote:>> Regarding your questions> > I am still a small learner in Astrology> > I can say 100% my birth data is correct whereas the Mothers and > Daughters Birth time should be rectified.> > I think the mothers chart Birth time needs to be rectified as it is > not even matching my navamsa.> > Regards,> Upendra> > > , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > Dear Upendra,> > > > namaskar. Mother's chart removes > all> > doubts that it would be a girl child. Lord of child is Ju with Ve.> > Although the sign is male sign, Ve is there for girl child. If the > lord> > of chils is alone then give importance to the sign but if not, then > give> > importance to the dominant graha with which it conjoins. I prefer > not to> > use Daughter's Drekkana to see the gender of her siblings for other> > matters it is okay but in case of gender sometimes it does not give > the> > correct result.> > > > When I am writing this, I cast a prashna chart and saw that Ve is in> > Dhanur Rasi in Lagna ! Ofcourse Ve will dominate as Ve is the 5L in > your> > wife's Chart (more so in your chart as well). Mother's chart is > more of> > importance as she is the one who is conceiving and delivering the > child.> > In any case, Mo in exaltation in your fifth house gives > predominantly> > female issues.> > > > The child will have predominantly Ju and Ve influence in the lagna.> > Going by Mother's chart, the child will have an excellent Hamsa > Yoga !> > > > All this is according to the given birth time of Mother and is not> > rectified.> > > > (1) Now explain to us (from Mother's Chart) why first child is > female.> > > > (2) How accurate is Mother's birth data; has it been rectified and > if so> > what what was the original data and how was it rectified. If not> > rectified, do you think it needs to be ?> > > > Also read the explanation of Chart 2 in Sanjay-ji's article I sent > you> > the link for in the previous message.> > > > Hope for the best,> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ================================================================> > --- In , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Gurus,> > >> > > For better judgement I am also giving all the three charts> > >> > > Father's Saptamsa> > >> > > +--------------+> > > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |Me | |Gk AL |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | Saptamsa | |> > > |-----------| |-----------|> > > | | D-7 |Su Ve |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > +--------------+> > >> > > Mothers Saptamsa> > >> > > +--------------+> > > | |Ra | |As GL |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |Su Ma | |Gk |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | Saptamsa | |> > > |-----------| |-----------|> > > | | D-7 |Mo Me |> > > | | |HL |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |Ju Ve | |Ke Md |Sa |> > > | | |AL | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > +--------------+> > >> > > Daughters Drekkana> > >> > > +--------------+> > > |MeR Md |Ra |Ju |Ma |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > | | |As Su |> > > | | |SaR HL |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | Drekkana | |> > > |-----------| |-----------|> > > | | D-3 |Mo |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |GL |Ve |Ke Gk |AL |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > +--------------+> > >> > > I hope this would be more useful in predicting second child.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Upendra> > >> > >> > > , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Upendra-ji,> > > >> > > > namaskar. Lord of the child Ju> > > is> > > > conjunct with Rahu in Mithuna Rasi. Mithuna shows female sign.> > > However> > > > the fact that Ra is a male graha and Ju is a male graha can > give a> > > male> > > > child. The only difficulty is that Ju doesn't like Rahu at all > and> > > is> > > > retrograde and might end up giving a female child. However, Mo > is> > > > exalted in the 5H and alone giving predominantly female issues.> > > Hence, I> > > > understand your situation and your dilemma. However there is > another> > > > dictum that says that male child is born in the kendra/kona of > the> > > > father's saptamsa Mo. Here the lagna of the child (Pi) and the > said> > > > planets are kendra to Mo. My intuition says that it could be a > male> > > > child but with difficulty. Pray to Mother Durga (Mo exalted) as > she> > > will> > > > remove troubles of Ra.> > > >> > > > Ju's conjuction with Ra makes pregnancy definitely difficult and> > > you may> > > > not expect a third child. What does mother's chart show ?> > > >> > > > For reference, please read:> > > >> > > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm> > > > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm>> > > >> > > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm> > > > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm>> > > >> > > > Best wishes and Good Luck,> > > >> > > > - Sourav> > > >> > > > ===============================================> > > > --- In , "upendra_agni" > <upendra.agni@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaskar,> > > > >> > > > > I am having some doubt on predicting Second child> > > > >> > > > > DOB: 19-Jan-1978 TOB: 07:05 AM POB:Machilipatnam, Andhra> > > > > Pradesh,INDIA.> > > > >> > > > > Following is the Saptamsha.> > > > >> > > > > +--------------+> > > > > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > > > |Me | |Gk AL |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | Saptamsa | |> > > > > |-----------| |-----------|> > > > > | | D-7 |Su Ve |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > > > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > +--------------+> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Because Jupiter who is the lord for 7th house in saptamsha> > > cojoined> > > > > with Rahu who is exalted in a Male sign shall we consider the> > > second> > > > > baby is Male? Or 7th Rasi is a female rasi and Mars is under> > > > > retrogression and viewed by retrograted Saturn from a female > rasi> > > so> > > > > shoud we consider it as female?> > > > >> > > > > And also from Astakavargas of this chart from SAV the Rasi > which> > > was> > > > > occupied by 7th Lord is the strongest one than the 7th Rasi. > So I> > > am> > > > > getting confused in predicting the Gender.> > > > >> > > > > Can anyone in this group can teach me how to conclude this?> > > > >> > > > > And also I am interested to know how to time the birth of the> > > second> > > > > baby?> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Upendra> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Dear Sourav, Name :Upendra DOB:19-Jan-1978,07:05 AM @ 81 E 12 -- 16 N 34 Name :Bharathi DOB:24-Jul-1978,03:05 AM @ 83 E 18 -- 17 N 42 Name : Vagdevi DOB:14-Dec-2004,06:28 AM @ 82 E 33 -- 17 N 21 We are expecting our second child in June 2006 between dates 18-24. Hope this information is useful to you. But can I clarify my doubts from the version which you had sent yesterday. You had refered to Rasi Chart also while analyzing Saptamsa? So which one will be correct while predicting Rasi or Saptamsa? and also What effects a retrograted planet give when he is in conjuction with an exalted planet? Is this effect same to debilitated planet? If so As Ju is satru's place (Me) what would be the effect? For example in the below chart Jupiter is under retrogression but with and exalted planet Rahu? +--------------+ |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Me | |Gk AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saptamsa | | |-----------| |-----------| | | D-7 |Su Ve | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ While predicting the gender Should we consider Rasi or Graha when some Graha is placed in that particular rasi? or the strongest? If it is possible please answer my questions. Regards, Upendra , "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Upendra, > > namaskar. Provide your daughter's birth data > along with your and your wife's data in one message for convenience. > Around which time are you expecting the second child? > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================ > > > > , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni@> > wrote: > > > > Regarding your questions > > > > I am still a small learner in Astrology > > > > I can say 100% my birth data is correct whereas the Mothers and > > Daughters Birth time should be rectified. > > > > I think the mothers chart Birth time needs to be rectified as it is > > not even matching my navamsa. > > > > Regards, > > Upendra > > > > > > , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Upendra, > > > > > > namaskar. Mother's chart removes > > all > > > doubts that it would be a girl child. Lord of child is Ju with Ve. > > > Although the sign is male sign, Ve is there for girl child. If the > > lord > > > of chils is alone then give importance to the sign but if not, then > > give > > > importance to the dominant graha with which it conjoins. I prefer > > not to > > > use Daughter's Drekkana to see the gender of her siblings for other > > > matters it is okay but in case of gender sometimes it does not give > > the > > > correct result. > > > > > > When I am writing this, I cast a prashna chart and saw that Ve is in > > > Dhanur Rasi in Lagna ! Ofcourse Ve will dominate as Ve is the 5L in > > your > > > wife's Chart (more so in your chart as well). Mother's chart is > > more of > > > importance as she is the one who is conceiving and delivering the > > child. > > > In any case, Mo in exaltation in your fifth house gives > > predominantly > > > female issues. > > > > > > The child will have predominantly Ju and Ve influence in the lagna. > > > Going by Mother's chart, the child will have an excellent Hamsa > > Yoga ! > > > > > > All this is according to the given birth time of Mother and is not > > > rectified. > > > > > > (1) Now explain to us (from Mother's Chart) why first child is > > female. > > > > > > (2) How accurate is Mother's birth data; has it been rectified and > > if so > > > what what was the original data and how was it rectified. If not > > > rectified, do you think it needs to be ? > > > > > > Also read the explanation of Chart 2 in Sanjay-ji's article I sent > > you > > > the link for in the previous message. > > > > > > Hope for the best, > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > , "upendra_agni" <upendra.agni@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > > For better judgement I am also giving all the three charts > > > > > > > > Father's Saptamsa > > > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |Me | |Gk AL | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | Saptamsa | | > > > > |-----------| |-----------| > > > > | | D-7 |Su Ve | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > > Mothers Saptamsa > > > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > > | |Ra | |As GL | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |Su Ma | |Gk | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | Saptamsa | | > > > > |-----------| |-----------| > > > > | | D-7 |Mo Me | > > > > | | |HL | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |Ju Ve | |Ke Md |Sa | > > > > | | |AL | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > > Daughters Drekkana > > > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > > |MeR Md |Ra |Ju |Ma | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > | | |As Su | > > > > | | |SaR HL | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | Drekkana | | > > > > |-----------| |-----------| > > > > | | D-3 |Mo | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |GL |Ve |Ke Gk |AL | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > > I hope this would be more useful in predicting second child. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Upendra > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Upendra-ji, > > > > > > > > > > namaskar. Lord of the child Ju > > > > is > > > > > conjunct with Rahu in Mithuna Rasi. Mithuna shows female sign. > > > > However > > > > > the fact that Ra is a male graha and Ju is a male graha can > > give a > > > > male > > > > > child. The only difficulty is that Ju doesn't like Rahu at all > > and > > > > is > > > > > retrograde and might end up giving a female child. However, Mo > > is > > > > > exalted in the 5H and alone giving predominantly female issues. > > > > Hence, I > > > > > understand your situation and your dilemma. However there is > > another > > > > > dictum that says that male child is born in the kendra/kona of > > the > > > > > father's saptamsa Mo. Here the lagna of the child (Pi) and the > > said > > > > > planets are kendra to Mo. My intuition says that it could be a > > male > > > > > child but with difficulty. Pray to Mother Durga (Mo exalted) as > > she > > > > will > > > > > remove troubles of Ra. > > > > > > > > > > Ju's conjuction with Ra makes pregnancy definitely difficult and > > > > you may > > > > > not expect a third child. What does mother's chart show ? > > > > > > > > > > For reference, please read: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm > > > > > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm > > > > > <http://www.srath.com/lectures/saptamsa02.htm> > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes and Good Luck, > > > > > > > > > > - Sourav > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > , "upendra_agni" > > <upendra.agni@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having some doubt on predicting Second child > > > > > > > > > > > > DOB: 19-Jan-1978 TOB: 07:05 AM POB:Machilipatnam, Andhra > > > > > > Pradesh,INDIA. > > > > > > > > > > > > Following is the Saptamsha. > > > > > > > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > |MaR |GL | |JuR Ra | > > > > > > | | | | | > > > > > > | | | | | > > > > > > | | | | | > > > > > > | | | | | > > > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > > > |Me | |Gk AL | > > > > > > | | | | > > > > > > | | | | > > > > > > | | | | > > > > > > | | Saptamsa | | > > > > > > |-----------| |-----------| > > > > > > | | D-7 |Su Ve | > > > > > > | | | | > > > > > > | | | | > > > > > > | | | | > > > > > > | | | | > > > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > > > |Mo Ke |HL |Md |As SaR | > > > > > > | | | | | > > > > > > | | | | | > > > > > > | | | | | > > > > > > | | | | | > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because Jupiter who is the lord for 7th house in saptamsha > > > > cojoined > > > > > > with Rahu who is exalted in a Male sign shall we consider the > > > > second > > > > > > baby is Male? Or 7th Rasi is a female rasi and Mars is under > > > > > > retrogression and viewed by retrograted Saturn from a female > > rasi > > > > so > > > > > > shoud we consider it as female? > > > > > > > > > > > > And also from Astakavargas of this chart from SAV the Rasi > > which > > > > was > > > > > > occupied by 7th Lord is the strongest one than the 7th Rasi. > > So I > > > > am > > > > > > getting confused in predicting the Gender. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone in this group can teach me how to conclude this? > > > > > > > > > > > > And also I am interested to know how to time the birth of the > > > > second > > > > > > baby? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Upendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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