Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Dear Members, I am a beginner in astrology. I have recently started taking great interest in astrology, and have been mainly learning from online material. Perhaps, I would like to get some formal learning in near future. Till then, the material available has been very usefu, to atleast understand the basics. I was listening to the curse mp3 of Shri Sanjay Rath. It was a very well explained lecture. As most new comers in astrology do,when they learn something new, I also applied my new learnt knowledge in my chart, and I found that i also have curse. The points that I could understand were, that I have a Brahmin curse, as my Jupiter in 10th house (Leo) is involed. Its in conjunction with Rahu, Saturn ®, and Mars and aspected by Ketu in fourth house in Aquarius. As I understand Saturn ® means that the curse cannot be reduced by remedies, and I will have to suffer through the consequeces. Rahu involved means there can be a shock/cheating element, at the same time it being my AK would mean that the involvement would be great. My eighth house lord Mercury is not involved in this main cusre, so I am assuming the suffering would not be that harsh.( correct me on this) I am still not very clear in checking out dasa's and how to see when the curse would materialize ( or when would its time period be). If some of the learned members could help me further in analyzing and understanding this, it would be great, with best regards, Neelay. For reference, my birth details are as follow. Female may 2, 1980 20:30 Nainital, India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Karma". Also the 10th house is involved, and with the exchange involving the 10th lord there, it may indicate problems with work or career. Have these problems arisen?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]mechumla <mechumla > wrote: Dear Members, I am a beginner in astrology. I have recently started taking great interest in astrology, and have been mainly learning from online material. Perhaps, I would like to get some formal learning in near future. Till then, the material available has been very usefu, to atleast understand the basics. I was listening to the curse mp3 of Shri Sanjay Rath. It was a very well explained lecture. As most new comers in astrology do,when they learn something new, I also applied my new learnt knowledge in my chart, and I found that i also have curse. The points that I could understand were, that I have a Brahmin curse, as my Jupiter in 10th house (Leo) is involed. Its in conjunction with Rahu, Saturn ®, and Mars and aspected by Ketu in fourth house in Aquarius. As I understand Saturn ® means that the curse cannot be reduced by remedies, and I will have to suffer through the consequeces. Rahu involved means there can be a shock/cheating element, at the same time it being my AK would mean that the involvement would be great. My eighth house lord Mercury is not involved in this main cusre, so I am assuming the suffering would not be that harsh.( correct me on this) I am still not very clear in checking out dasa's and how to see when the curse would materialize ( or when would its time period be). If some of the learned members could help me further in analyzing and understanding this, it would be great, with best regards, Neelay. For reference, my birth details are as follow. Female may 2, 1980 20:30 Nainital, India Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Dear Michal, First of all thanks for taking your time to answer my query. You have said that 4th house, will be the house of concern. If I am not wrong fourth house signifies, mother, properties and education. So, it can impact any of these areas. Another house you have said of concern is the 10th house, the house of career.Yes, I am facing problem in that area. I am at the fag end of my engineering education, but I am least interested in work opportunities. I am also working part time currently, not having the greatest fun there too. This is where i find the beauty of astrology, it intrigues and fascinates me greatly. When you mentioned to check the mool dasa, and that saturn would be the dasa of the fructifcation of curse. I see that Saturn dasa started in may 2005. Believe it or not, thats when i have started losing interest in career related activities. As you have said to suffer through it through a strong mind and resolve, I will do my best to do that. However, can you guide me, with this ; the Saturn dasa lasts till 2018 so does that mean the curse will be in effect till 2018. What is the best way to reduce the effects of the curse if not eliminate it, and how adversely can it have an impact on my career without really having begun my career yet. Thanks for all your input. with best regards, neelay , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Neelay, > > The area affected by the curse will be seen from the lordship of the malefics. They own the 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 6th houses. So I guess the curse can manifest itself in any one of the areas signifyed by those houses. Saturn is retrograde and in an enemies sign. Rahu is ill placed also. Mars has dig bala, is in parivartana with Sun (who is conjoined 8th lord) and is a friend of Jupiter, so is least likely to give the negative results. This brings the focus to the fourth house. Another important point to note is that Jupiter is in a friendly sign and in a kendra, showing that the intention and knowledge that caused the curse was not inherently bad. The Mula dasa of Saturn began last year so it is a ripe time to "suffer the curse with a strong mind and be resolved to patiently wait out the period and dutifully do out Karma". Also the 10th house is involved, and with the exchange involving the 10th lord there, it may indicate problems with work or career. Have these problems > arisen? > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > mechumla <mechumla wrote: Dear Members, > > I am a beginner in astrology. I have recently started taking great > interest in astrology, and have been mainly learning from online > material. Perhaps, I would like to get some formal learning in near > future. Till then, the material available has been very usefu, to > atleast understand the basics. I was listening to the curse mp3 of > Shri Sanjay Rath. It was a very well explained lecture. As most > new comers in astrology do,when they learn something new, I also > applied my new learnt knowledge in my chart, and I found that i also > have curse. > > > > The points that I could understand were, that I have a Brahmin > curse, as my Jupiter in 10th house (Leo) is involed. Its in > conjunction with Rahu, Saturn ®, and Mars and aspected by Ketu in > fourth house in Aquarius. > > As I understand Saturn ® means that the curse cannot be reduced by > remedies, and I will have to suffer through the consequeces. Rahu > involved means there can be a shock/cheating element, at the same > time it being my AK would mean that the involvement would be great. > My eighth house lord Mercury is not involved in this main cusre, so > I am assuming the suffering would not be that harsh.( correct me on > this) I am still not very clear in checking out dasa's and how to > see when the curse would materialize ( or when would its time > period be). > > > If some of the learned members could help me further in analyzing > and understanding this, it would be great, > > with best regards, > Neelay. > > For reference, my birth details are as follow. > Female > may 2, 1980 > 20:30 > Nainital, India > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 mool dasa, and that saturn would be the dasa of the fructifcation of curse. I see that Saturn dasa started in may 2005. Believe it or not, thats when i have started losing interest in career related activities. As you have said to suffer through it through a strong mind and resolve, I will do my best to do that. However, can you guide me, with this ; the Saturn dasa lasts till 2018so does that mean the curse will be in effect till 2018. What is the best way to reduce the effects of the curse if not eliminate it, and how adversely can it have an impact on my career without really having begun my career yet. Thanks for all your input. with best regards, neelay Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Neelay,The area affected by the curse will be seen from the lordship of the malefics. They own the 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 6th houses. So I guess the curse can manifest itself in any one of the areas signifyed by those houses. Saturn is retrograde and in an enemies sign. Rahu is ill placed also. Mars has dig bala, is in parivartana with Sun (who is conjoined 8th lord) and is a friend of Jupiter, so is least likely to give the negative results. This brings the focus to the fourth house. Another important point to note is that Jupiter is in a friendly sign and in a kendra, showing that the intention and knowledge that caused the curse was not inherently bad. The Mula dasa of Saturn began last year so it is a ripe time to "suffer the curse with a strong mind and be resolved to patiently wait out the period and dutifully do out Karma". Also the 10th house is involved, and with the exchange involving the 10th lord there, it may indicate problems with work or career. Have these problems arisen?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]mechumla <mechumla > wrote: Dear Members,I am a beginner in astrology. I have recently started taking great interest in astrology, and have been mainly learning from online material. Perhaps, I would like to get some formal learning in near future. Till then, the material available has been very usefu, to atleast understand the basics. I was listening to the curse mp3 of Shri Sanjay Rath. It was a very well explained lecture. As most new comers in astrology do,when they learn something new, I also applied my new learnt knowledge in my chart, and I found that i also have curse. The points that I could understand were, that I have a Brahmin curse, as my Jupiter in 10th house (Leo) is involed. Its in conjunction with Rahu, Saturn ®, and Mars and aspected by Ketu in fourth house in Aquarius. As I understand Saturn ® means that the curse cannot be reduced by remedies, and I will have to suffer through the consequeces. Rahu involved means there can be a shock/cheating element, at the same time it being my AK would mean that the involvement would be great. My eighth house lord Mercury is not involved in this main cusre, so I am assuming the suffering would not be that harsh.( correct me on this) I am still not very clear in checking out dasa's and how to see when the curse would materialize ( or when would its time period be). If some of the learned members could help me further in analyzing and understanding this, it would be great,with best regards,Neelay.For reference, my birth details are as follow.Femalemay 2, 198020:30Nainital, India Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1�/min. New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Dear Michal, Thanks for all your input, and the mantras. Yes, life is mixed bag, and thats what makes it beautiful. Astrology, is truly amazing, hopefully I will keep learning and be able to understand it better. Thanks and with best regards, Neelay , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Neelay, > > The curse will run for the extent of the dasa, but as is life, there will be worse times and better times. The fact that Jupiter is so strong, and you are learning about yourself must indicate that you will overcome the trials you must face. As far as remedies are concerned, I believe the selection of a Jyotirlinga mantra for the afflicted planet can help in further strengthening the planet and thus alleviating the suffering. The mantra for Jupiter is: Om Namah Shivaya Namah Omkareshwaraya. Also the lord of the 10th is exalted so the mantra for Sun may also be effective: Om Namah Shivaya Namah Rameshwaraya. The chanting of these mantras will certainly help. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > neelay <mechumla wrote: Dear Michal, > > First of all thanks for taking your time to answer my query. You have said that 4th house, will be the house of concern. If I am not wrong fourth house signifies, mother, properties and education. So, it can impact any of these areas. > > Another house you have said of concern is the 10th house, the house of career.Yes, I am facing problem in that area. I am at the fag end of my engineering education, but I am least interested in work opportunities. I am also working part time currently, not having the greatest fun there too. > > This is where i find the beauty of astrology, it intrigues and fascinates me greatly. When you mentioned to check the mool dasa, and that saturn would be the dasa of the fructifcation of curse. I see that Saturn dasa started in may 2005. Believe it or not, thats when i have started losing interest in career related activities. > > As you have said to suffer through it through a strong mind and resolve, I will do my best to do that. However, can you guide me, with this ; the Saturn dasa lasts till 2018 > so does that mean the curse will be in effect till 2018. What is the best way to reduce the effects of the curse if not eliminate it, and how adversely can it have an impact on my career without really having begun my career yet. > > Thanks for all your input. > > with best regards, > neelay > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Neelay, > > The area affected by the curse will be seen from the lordship of the malefics. They own the 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 6th houses. So I guess the curse can manifest itself in any one of the areas signifyed by those houses. Saturn is retrograde and in an enemies sign. Rahu is ill placed also. Mars has dig bala, is in parivartana with Sun (who is conjoined 8th lord) and is a friend of Jupiter, so is least likely to give the negative results. This brings the focus to the fourth house. Another important point to note is that Jupiter is in a friendly sign and in a kendra, showing that the intention and knowledge that caused the curse was not inherently bad. The Mula dasa of Saturn began last year so it is a ripe time to "suffer the curse with a strong mind and be resolved to patiently wait out the period and dutifully do out Karma". Also the 10th house is involved, and with the exchange involving the 10th lord there, it may indicate problems with work or career. Have these problems > arisen? > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > mechumla <mechumla wrote: Dear Members, > > I am a beginner in astrology. I have recently started taking great > interest in astrology, and have been mainly learning from online > material. Perhaps, I would like to get some formal learning in near > future. Till then, the material available has been very usefu, to > atleast understand the basics. I was listening to the curse mp3 of > Shri Sanjay Rath. It was a very well explained lecture. As most > new comers in astrology do,when they learn something new, I also > applied my new learnt knowledge in my chart, and I found that i also > have curse. > > > > The points that I could understand were, that I have a Brahmin > curse, as my Jupiter in 10th house (Leo) is involed. Its in > conjunction with Rahu, Saturn ®, and Mars and aspected by Ketu in > fourth house in Aquarius. > > As I understand Saturn ® means that the curse cannot be reduced by > remedies, and I will have to suffer through the consequeces. Rahu > involved means there can be a shock/cheating element, at the same > time it being my AK would mean that the involvement would be great. > My eighth house lord Mercury is not involved in this main cusre, so > I am assuming the suffering would not be that harsh.( correct me on > this) I am still not very clear in checking out dasa's and how to > see when the curse would materialize ( or when would its time > period be). > > > If some of the learned members could help me further in analyzing > and understanding this, it would be great, > > with best regards, > Neelay. > > For reference, my birth details are as follow. > Female > may 2, 1980 > 20:30 > Nainital, India > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1�/min. > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Dear Michal, Thanks for explaining further, and giving information about the mantras. Yes, you are right life is a mixed bag of suffering and joy and thats what makes it beautiful. I am really getting very attracted to astrology day-by-day. Hopefully, sometime in near future I can learn it more in-depth, and can do the wonderful service of sharing as the all the learned members are doing here. Thanks again for guiding me, best regards, neelay. PS: I am posting again as some of the mails are not getting posted. My previous post seems to have been disillusioned and lost in the cyberworld:-) , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Neelay, > > The curse will run for the extent of the dasa, but as is life, there will be worse times and better times. The fact that Jupiter is so strong, and you are learning about yourself must indicate that you will overcome the trials you must face. As far as remedies are concerned, I believe the selection of a Jyotirlinga mantra for the afflicted planet can help in further strengthening the planet and thus alleviating the suffering. The mantra for Jupiter is: Om Namah Shivaya Namah Omkareshwaraya. Also the lord of the 10th is exalted so the mantra for Sun may also be effective: Om Namah Shivaya Namah Rameshwaraya. The chanting of these mantras will certainly help. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > neelay <mechumla wrote: Dear Michal, > > First of all thanks for taking your time to answer my query. You have said that 4th house, will be the house of concern. If I am not wrong fourth house signifies, mother, properties and education. So, it can impact any of these areas. > > Another house you have said of concern is the 10th house, the house of career.Yes, I am facing problem in that area. I am at the fag end of my engineering education, but I am least interested in work opportunities. I am also working part time currently, not having the greatest fun there too. > > This is where i find the beauty of astrology, it intrigues and fascinates me greatly. When you mentioned to check the mool dasa, and that saturn would be the dasa of the fructifcation of curse. I see that Saturn dasa started in may 2005. Believe it or not, thats when i have started losing interest in career related activities. > > As you have said to suffer through it through a strong mind and resolve, I will do my best to do that. However, can you guide me, with this ; the Saturn dasa lasts till 2018 > so does that mean the curse will be in effect till 2018. What is the best way to reduce the effects of the curse if not eliminate it, and how adversely can it have an impact on my career without really having begun my career yet. > > Thanks for all your input. > > with best regards, > neelay > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Neelay, > > The area affected by the curse will be seen from the lordship of the malefics. They own the 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 6th houses. So I guess the curse can manifest itself in any one of the areas signifyed by those houses. Saturn is retrograde and in an enemies sign. Rahu is ill placed also. Mars has dig bala, is in parivartana with Sun (who is conjoined 8th lord) and is a friend of Jupiter, so is least likely to give the negative results. This brings the focus to the fourth house. Another important point to note is that Jupiter is in a friendly sign and in a kendra, showing that the intention and knowledge that caused the curse was not inherently bad. The Mula dasa of Saturn began last year so it is a ripe time to "suffer the curse with a strong mind and be resolved to patiently wait out the period and dutifully do out Karma". Also the 10th house is involved, and with the exchange involving the 10th lord there, it may indicate problems with work or career. Have these problems > arisen? > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > mechumla <mechumla wrote: Dear Members, > > I am a beginner in astrology. I have recently started taking great > interest in astrology, and have been mainly learning from online > material. Perhaps, I would like to get some formal learning in near > future. Till then, the material available has been very usefu, to > atleast understand the basics. I was listening to the curse mp3 of > Shri Sanjay Rath. It was a very well explained lecture. As most > new comers in astrology do,when they learn something new, I also > applied my new learnt knowledge in my chart, and I found that i also > have curse. > > > > The points that I could understand were, that I have a Brahmin > curse, as my Jupiter in 10th house (Leo) is involed. Its in > conjunction with Rahu, Saturn ®, and Mars and aspected by Ketu in > fourth house in Aquarius. > > As I understand Saturn ® means that the curse cannot be reduced by > remedies, and I will have to suffer through the consequeces. Rahu > involved means there can be a shock/cheating element, at the same > time it being my AK would mean that the involvement would be great. > My eighth house lord Mercury is not involved in this main cusre, so > I am assuming the suffering would not be that harsh.( correct me on > this) I am still not very clear in checking out dasa's and how to > see when the curse would materialize ( or when would its time > period be). > > > If some of the learned members could help me further in analyzing > and understanding this, it would be great, > > with best regards, > Neelay. > > For reference, my birth details are as follow. > Female > may 2, 1980 > 20:30 > Nainital, India > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1�/min. > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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