From Varshney JR- 39 Correct Birth Time

May 20, 2003

Dear Varshney Jee,

Thanks for the nice post. Any constructive thoughts would be appreciated by me

and as well as other members :-)

Regarding three kind of birth times, of course I would like to go with the 3rd

option - ie astrologically rectified birth time. Why do not we do something

personally. If we get chance, we should record all moments of 1) Coming out, 2)

Starting to cry 3) Cutting navel of a baby and then see what time matches

exactly to the rectified time! Then we would surely be able to reach a possible

conclusion.

Personally I am not good into birth tme rectification and your or other members

discussion are welcome.

Please keep us the good discussion :-)

Regards,

Tanvir

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir Chowdhury

tanvir

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S VARSHNEY

Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:27 PM

From Varshney JR- 39 Correct Birth Time

Dear Tanveer,

Correct time of birth is the absolute base for all

astro calculations & predictions. For several years I

am trying to find views of doctors, leading

astrologers & articles in leading journals. I find

there are differences of opinion. Whatever the doctor

or hospital says, it is generally recorded by parents.

Since I have found different views, so during my astro

readings, I always keep in mind this possible margin

of error and therefore manytimmes I have been able to

arrive at astrologically correct birth time.

(especially in border line lagna cases)

Since I want views/feedback from other astrologers so

I am not telling you the majority view at present but

I will tell you aftersometime.

I have found that many astro predictions & remedies

fail only due to this error.

By the way your, interpretation does not match with

the leading authorites' view.

There are 3 types of Birth times;

1. Actual physical Birth time

2. Time recorded & given by doctors/hospital

3. Astrologically correct birth time

In all the 3 cases, there is doubt which moment is to

be taken as the birth moment in minutes & seconds?

I will put more light in next issues of JR. Then we

would like to reach to some widely acceptable

coclusion.

I will then like to find ways to rectify birth time

errors. There are several methods.

Regards

SK Varshney Hisar India

May 20, 2003

Dear Mr. Varshney,

This issue is really confusing. I'm the case of this

confusion. My recorded birth time is 01:00 am and

according to that My Lagna is Leo with Zero Degree and

3 Min. Now many astrologer said that it is to be

considered as Cancer. But I logically believe that

thought it is only 3 Min. but Cancer is fully over so

it should be considered as Leo only.

Another point is that my mother says that it is above

01:00am may be 01:05am. If it is later than 01:00am

then I'm surely Leo otherwise confusion.

In boundries of my knowledge I used to believe that my

personality matches more with Leo instead of Cancer

but I'm not sure.

Can u (or any other member) suggest any method using

that I can derive my correct Lagna?

Regards,

Tushar

--- S VARSHNEY <varshney123 wrote:

> Dear Tanveer,

> Correct time of birth is the absolute base for all

> astro calculations & predictions. For several years

> I

> am trying to find views of doctors, leading

> astrologers & articles in leading journals. I find

> there are differences of opinion. Whatever the

> doctor

> or hospital says, it is generally recorded by

> parents.

>

> Since I have found different views, so during my

> astro

> readings, I always keep in mind this possible margin

> of error and therefore manytimmes I have been able

> to

> arrive at astrologically correct birth time.

> (especially in border line lagna cases)

> Since I want views/feedback from other astrologers

> so

> I am not telling you the majority view at present

> but

> I will tell you aftersometime.

> I have found that many astro predictions & remedies

> fail only due to this error.

> By the way your, interpretation does not match with

> the leading authorites' view.

> There are 3 types of Birth times;

> 1. Actual physical Birth time

> 2. Time recorded & given by doctors/hospital

> 3. Astrologically correct birth time

> In all the 3 cases, there is doubt which moment is

> to

> be taken as the birth moment in minutes & seconds?

> I will put more light in next issues of JR. Then we

> would like to reach to some widely acceptable

> coclusion.

> I will then like to find ways to rectify birth time

> errors. There are several methods.

> Regards

> SK Varshney Hisar India

>

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> > There are 4 messages in this issue.

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> > Topics in this digest:

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> > 1. Pls Help

> > "Devanand Ganesan"

> > <devanand_73

> > 2. Re: Digest Number 36

> > "Tanvir" <tanvir

> > 3. Re: Re: Digest Number 36

> > "tarun chopra"

> > <astrotarun

> > 4. QUIZ

> > "astrorajas"

> > <astrorajas

> >

>

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> >

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> > Message: 1

> > Mon, 19 May 2003 16:38:32 -0000

> > "Devanand Ganesan"

> <devanand_73

> > Pls Help

> >

> > Respected Gurus!

> >

> > My name is Devanand. My Date of Birth is 18 jul

> > 1973,9:00 AM in

> > Salem,

> > Tamilnadu. My star is Dhanista and rasi is Kumbha.

> I

> > got married

> > in

> > last Sepetember 13 2002. My Wife name is

> Saraswathi.

> > Her DOB is 03

> > Jun

> > 1975, 12.25pm at Sriperumputher 30KM from

> > Kanchipuram/40 from

> > Chennai. Her rasi is Piceses.

> >

> > My problem, is she is been in fear of unknown

> issues

> > or fear of

> > loosing something.she is very emotional and often

> > starts

> > weeping/tears. From the astro point of view, what

> > might be the

> > reason

> > and how to rectify this?

> > some of the issues that affected in her recent

> past

> > is ...

> > 1) abortion once

> > 2) illness to her mother

> > 3) illness to me

> > 4) stress

> >

> > Though these are psychological once, i still want

> to

> > know, from the

> > Astro point of view, what could be the reason or

> how

> > to rectify/react

> > to that?

> > Is it possible to find out when can we go for a

> > child?

> > is there any bad period for me or for her

> currently

> > or in near future?

> >

> > Importantly, Do i have any severe threat to my

> life

> > around my 34 yrs?

> > If so, how to avoid/tackle that?

> >

> > Please help me

> > Thanks in advance

> > Devanand

> >

>

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> >

>

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> >

> > Message: 2

> > Mon, 19 May 2003 23:07:52 +0600

> > "Tanvir" <tanvir

> > Re: Digest Number 36

> >

> > Hi,

> > There has been discussion going on about this

> topic.

> > But I hold the view that the time baby comes out

> > from mother's body should be counted. What you

> think

> > about it and what own information you have as you

> > mentioned?

> >

> > Looking forward to hear from you...

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tanvir

> >

> > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> >

> > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > tanvir

> > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> >

> > -

> > S VARSHNEY

> >

> > Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:11 PM

> > Re: Digest Number 36

> >

> > Thanks Rajesh for your offer/thoughts

> > The most basic question about astrology is the

> > Birth

> > time of a person. What is your information ?

> Which

> > time the doctors/ hospital record for a bay's

> > arrival?

> > There appears to be some confusion. I will tell

> > my

> > own information later. Let there be some debate

> on

> > it

> > in this forum.

> > Regards,

> > SKVarshney Hisar

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

>

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May 21, 2003

I often use nakshatras to correct a birthtime. End of Cancer and beginning of

Leo have different nakshatras. And you can ask question to an other astrologer

and see if that horoscope gives the answer. When I read your email the ascendant

from that moment is 28°24' Cancer. Maybe that could be an answer

-

tushar trivedi

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 6:52 AM

Re: From Varshney JR- 39 Correct Birth Time

Dear Mr. Varshney,

This issue is really confusing. I'm the case of this

confusion. My recorded birth time is 01:00 am and

according to that My Lagna is Leo with Zero Degree and

3 Min. Now many astrologer said that it is to be

considered as Cancer. But I logically believe that

thought it is only 3 Min. but Cancer is fully over so

it should be considered as Leo only.

Another point is that my mother says that it is above

01:00am may be 01:05am. If it is later than 01:00am

then I'm surely Leo otherwise confusion.

In boundries of my knowledge I used to believe that my

personality matches more with Leo instead of Cancer

but I'm not sure.

Can u (or any other member) suggest any method using

that I can derive my correct Lagna?

Regards,

Tushar

--- S VARSHNEY <varshney123 wrote:

> Dear Tanveer,

> Correct time of birth is the absolute base for all

> astro calculations & predictions. For several years

> I

> am trying to find views of doctors, leading

> astrologers & articles in leading journals. I find

> there are differences of opinion. Whatever the

> doctor

> or hospital says, it is generally recorded by

> parents.

>

> Since I have found different views, so during my

> astro

> readings, I always keep in mind this possible margin

> of error and therefore manytimmes I have been able

> to

> arrive at astrologically correct birth time.

> (especially in border line lagna cases)

> Since I want views/feedback from other astrologers

> so

> I am not telling you the majority view at present

> but

> I will tell you aftersometime.

> I have found that many astro predictions & remedies

> fail only due to this error.

> By the way your, interpretation does not match with

> the leading authorites' view.

> There are 3 types of Birth times;

> 1. Actual physical Birth time

> 2. Time recorded & given by doctors/hospital

> 3. Astrologically correct birth time

> In all the 3 cases, there is doubt which moment is

> to

> be taken as the birth moment in minutes & seconds?

> I will put more light in next issues of JR. Then we

> would like to reach to some widely acceptable

> coclusion.

> I will then like to find ways to rectify birth time

> errors. There are several methods.

> Regards

> SK Varshney Hisar India

>

> --- wrote:

> > ------------------------ Sponsor

> >

> > Help others to your best, so that the nature helps

> > you.

> >

>

------

> >

> > There are 4 messages in this issue.

> >

> > Topics in this digest:

> >

> > 1. Pls Help

> > "Devanand Ganesan"

> > <devanand_73

> > 2. Re: Digest Number 36

> > "Tanvir" <tanvir

> > 3. Re: Re: Digest Number 36

> > "tarun chopra"

> > <astrotarun

> > 4. QUIZ

> > "astrorajas"

> > <astrorajas

> >

>

______________________

> >

>

______________________

> >

> > Message: 1

> > Mon, 19 May 2003 16:38:32 -0000

> > "Devanand Ganesan"

> <devanand_73

> > Pls Help

> >

> > Respected Gurus!

> >

> > My name is Devanand. My Date of Birth is 18 jul

> > 1973,9:00 AM in

> > Salem,

> > Tamilnadu. My star is Dhanista and rasi is Kumbha.

> I

> > got married

> > in

> > last Sepetember 13 2002. My Wife name is

> Saraswathi.

> > Her DOB is 03

> > Jun

> > 1975, 12.25pm at Sriperumputher 30KM from

> > Kanchipuram/40 from

> > Chennai. Her rasi is Piceses.

> >

> > My problem, is she is been in fear of unknown

> issues

> > or fear of

> > loosing something.she is very emotional and often

> > starts

> > weeping/tears. From the astro point of view, what

> > might be the

> > reason

> > and how to rectify this?

> > some of the issues that affected in her recent

> past

> > is ...

> > 1) abortion once

> > 2) illness to her mother

> > 3) illness to me

> > 4) stress

> >

> > Though these are psychological once, i still want

> to

> > know, from the

> > Astro point of view, what could be the reason or

> how

> > to rectify/react

> > to that?

> > Is it possible to find out when can we go for a

> > child?

> > is there any bad period for me or for her

> currently

> > or in near future?

> >

> > Importantly, Do i have any severe threat to my

> life

> > around my 34 yrs?

> > If so, how to avoid/tackle that?

> >

> > Please help me

> > Thanks in advance

> > Devanand

> >

>

______________________

> >

>

______________________

> >

> > Message: 2

> > Mon, 19 May 2003 23:07:52 +0600

> > "Tanvir" <tanvir

> > Re: Digest Number 36

> >

> > Hi,

> > There has been discussion going on about this

> topic.

> > But I hold the view that the time baby comes out

> > from mother's body should be counted. What you

> think

> > about it and what own information you have as you

> > mentioned?

> >

> > Looking forward to hear from you...

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tanvir

> >

> > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> >

> > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > tanvir

> > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> >

> > -

> > S VARSHNEY

> >

> > Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:11 PM

> > Re: Digest Number 36

> >

> > Thanks Rajesh for your offer/thoughts

> > The most basic question about astrology is the

> > Birth

> > time of a person. What is your information ?

> Which

> > time the doctors/ hospital record for a bay's

> > arrival?

> > There appears to be some confusion. I will tell

> > my

> > own information later. Let there be some debate

> on

> > it

> > in this forum.

> > Regards,

> > SKVarshney Hisar

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

>

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May 21, 2003

Dear Tushar,

Your data can be rectified by many ways matching with your current condition, D

charts, etc.

But I would recommend Puranic Mantras of planets by reciting which you can

surely know which Lagna you belong to.

Like - Puranic mantra of Candr will make you spend much money and all 12th lord

effects if you are Leo lagna, and so on. This will not do anything serious but

you will certainly feel the effect and know. If your lagna is in Cancer, Purnaic

mantra of Candr will be good and not like 12th lord's mantra. This applies to

all other planets as well.

Also try to understand which planet did what kind of things in their periods -

it will be easy to understand their lordship then! Does not sound easy?

Regards,

Tanvir

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir Chowdhury

tanvir

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tushar trivedi

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:52 AM

Re: From Varshney JR- 39 Correct Birth Time

Dear Mr. Varshney,

This issue is really confusing. I'm the case of this

confusion. My recorded birth time is 01:00 am and

according to that My Lagna is Leo with Zero Degree and

3 Min. Now many astrologer said that it is to be

considered as Cancer. But I logically believe that

thought it is only 3 Min. but Cancer is fully over so

it should be considered as Leo only.

Another point is that my mother says that it is above

01:00am may be 01:05am. If it is later than 01:00am

then I'm surely Leo otherwise confusion.

In boundries of my knowledge I used to believe that my

personality matches more with Leo instead of Cancer

but I'm not sure.

Can u (or any other member) suggest any method using

that I can derive my correct Lagna?

Regards,

Tushar

May 21, 2003

Dear Clara,

Your method is not clear to me. How is it assured that the Lagna (Asc) of the

Prasna would match the lagna of the native? Could you please elaborate?

Regards,

Tanvir

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir Chowdhury

tanvir

-

Clara van den Heuvel

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:15 PM

Re: From Varshney JR- 39 Correct Birth Time

I often use nakshatras to correct a birthtime. End of Cancer and beginning of

Leo have different nakshatras. And you can ask question to an other astrologer

and see if that horoscope gives the answer. When I read your email the ascendant

from that moment is 28°24' Cancer. Maybe that could be an answer

May 21, 2003

I am Western astrologer mainly. I used western horoscope to look at the question

about birthtime.

There is always a match between a question horoscope and the birth-horoscope of

the person who asks the question. Horoscopes are always related. It also relates

to the horoscope of the astrologer who answers the question. But the match is

not always the ascendant of course. But in this case it was so close to the

question that I think this could be the ascendant.

-

Tanvir

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:12 PM

Re: From Varshney JR- 39 Correct Birth Time

Dear Clara,

Your method is not clear to me. How is it assured that the Lagna (Asc) of the

Prasna would match the lagna of the native? Could you please elaborate?

Regards,

Tanvir

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir Chowdhury

tanvir

> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

-

Clara van den Heuvel

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:15 PM

Re: From Varshney JR- 39 Correct Birth Time

I often use nakshatras to correct a birthtime. End of Cancer and beginning

of Leo have different nakshatras. And you can ask question to an other

astrologer and see if that horoscope gives the answer. When I read your email

the ascendant from that moment is 28°24' Cancer. Maybe that could be an answer

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May 21, 2003

That's ok. It can be so in one case but I think it

will be to early to present as rule without checking

other cases

--- Clara van den Heuvel <myst3949 wrote:

> I am Western astrologer mainly. I used western

> horoscope to look at the question about birthtime.

>

> There is always a match between a question horoscope

> and the birth-horoscope of the person who asks the

> question. Horoscopes are always related. It also

> relates to the horoscope of the astrologer who

> answers the question. But the match is not always

> the ascendant of course. But in this case it was so

> close to the question that I think this could be the

> ascendant.

>

> -

> Tanvir

>

> Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:12 PM

> Re: From Varshney JR- 39 Correct

> Birth Time

>

> Dear Clara,

> Your method is not clear to me. How is it assured

> that the Lagna (Asc) of the Prasna would match the

> lagna of the native? Could you please elaborate?

>

> Regards,

> Tanvir

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> tanvir

> http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

>

> -

> Clara van den Heuvel

>

> Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:15 PM

> Re: From Varshney JR- 39 Correct

> Birth Time

>

> I often use nakshatras to correct a birthtime.

> End of Cancer and beginning of Leo have different

> nakshatras. And you can ask question to an other

> astrologer and see if that horoscope gives the

> answer. When I read your email the ascendant from

> that moment is 28°24' Cancer. Maybe that could be an

> answer

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

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