From VARSHNEY Ref:JR-40: Correct Birth Time

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Dear All,

I am happy to find so many responses to my Question:

What should be the correct birth time ? I think it is

a healthy debate which may help all of us.

To make your thinking bit simpler I am giving here 5

widely considered views so far collected by me from

different set of people for birth time;they are

1. When the baby's full head comes out from the womb &

 

and he faces the outside world. This theory believes

that our body alone has no identity. What matters is

the Head.

2. When the baby is fully out & is part of this world

as one whole independent living body

3. When the baby first time cries & takes independent

living force of nature i.e the first breath

4. When the baby's umbibical cord is cut from mother's

body & then he starts his own independent life in this

world

5. When the start of life actually starts at the time

of conception. This is not possible to know but based

on 270 days theory & moon theory I have read that some

astrologers have been able to predict birth time

 

Few more theories are. But I would like the discussion

to focus on these. However, if any member has some

more information then he may share.

I will tell my information after the debate including

ways to rectify birthtime errors.

 

SK VARSHNEY HISAR India 21.05.2003

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Varshney Jee,

 

Why not you say us your views now so that it becomes a part of good discussion?

:-) About the point # 5 you mentioned -

 

>>5. When the start of life actually starts at the time

of conception. This is not possible to know but based

on 270 days theory & moon theory I have read that some

astrologers have been able to predict birth time<<

 

TANVIR: This time surely is the time of "Starting the life" in one sense but

not the "Time of birth". And would not be this a big mistake if we take this in

consideration?

 

Regarding knowing this time, Maha Rishi Parasara gave us some hint about this

- (Ch. 4, Verses 25-30)

 

"Nishek Lagn. O excellent of Brahmins, now is a step explained to arrive at

the Nishek Lagn, when the natal Lagn is known. Note the angular distance between

Sani and Mandi (Gulik). Add this to the difference between the Lagn Bhava

(Madhya, or cusp) and the 9th Bhava (cusp). The resultant product in Rashis,

degrees etc. will represent the months, days etc., that elapsed between Nishek

and birth. At birth, if Lagn Lord is in the invisible half (i.e. from Lagn cusp

to descendental cusp), add the degrees etc., Candr moved in the particular

Rashi, occupied by her, to the above-mentioned product. Then Lagn at Nishek can

be worked out and the good and bad, experienced by the native in the womb, can

be guessed. One can also guess with the help of Nishek Lagn effects, like

longevity, death etc. of the parents."

 

 

Regards,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Could you please through some light on "270 days theory and moon theory"?

 

Regards,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

 

 

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Tanvir

Jyotish Remedies

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:38 PM

Re: From VARSHNEY Ref:JR-40: Correct Birth Time

 

 

Dear Varshney Jee,

 

Why not you say us your views now so that it becomes a part of good

discussion? :-) About the point # 5 you mentioned -

 

>>5. When the start of life actually starts at the time

of conception. This is not possible to know but based

on 270 days theory & moon theory I have read that some

astrologers have been able to predict birth time<<

 

TANVIR: This time surely is the time of "Starting the life" in one sense but

not the "Time of birth". And would not be this a big mistake if we take this in

consideration?

 

Regarding knowing this time, Maha Rishi Parasara gave us some hint about

this - (Ch. 4, Verses 25-30)

 

"Nishek Lagn. O excellent of Brahmins, now is a step explained to arrive

at the Nishek Lagn, when the natal Lagn is known. Note the angular distance

between Sani and Mandi (Gulik). Add this to the difference between the Lagn

Bhava (Madhya, or cusp) and the 9th Bhava (cusp). The resultant product in

Rashis, degrees etc. will represent the months, days etc., that elapsed between

Nishek and birth. At birth, if Lagn Lord is in the invisible half (i.e. from

Lagn cusp to descendental cusp), add the degrees etc., Candr moved in the

particular Rashi, occupied by her, to the above-mentioned product. Then Lagn at

Nishek can be worked out and the good and bad, experienced by the native in the

womb, can be guessed. One can also guess with the help of Nishek Lagn effects,

like longevity, death etc. of the parents."

 

 

Regards,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Varshney,

 

Point No. 5 is almost impossible to decide and if

science can developed some method for it in future

then also confusion remains same. Because life is

actually started individiaully in form of sperm in

father's and mother's body before conjuction. I mean

to say in scintific term. DNA map is already decided.

 

 

So, I think point no. 3 is more appropriate.

 

Tushar

 

--- S VARSHNEY <varshney123 wrote:

> Dear All,

> I am happy to find so many responses to my Question:

> What should be the correct birth time ? I think it

> is

> a healthy debate which may help all of us.

> To make your thinking bit simpler I am giving here 5

> widely considered views so far collected by me from

> different set of people for birth time;they are

> 1. When the baby's full head comes out from the womb

> &

>

> and he faces the outside world. This theory believes

> that our body alone has no identity. What matters is

> the Head.

> 2. When the baby is fully out & is part of this

> world

> as one whole independent living body

> 3. When the baby first time cries & takes

> independent

> living force of nature i.e the first breath

> 4. When the baby's umbibical cord is cut from

> mother's

> body & then he starts his own independent life in

> this

> world

> 5. When the start of life actually starts at the

> time

> of conception. This is not possible to know but

> based

> on 270 days theory & moon theory I have read that

> some

> astrologers have been able to predict birth time

>

> Few more theories are. But I would like the

> discussion

> to focus on these. However, if any member has some

> more information then he may share.

> I will tell my information after the debate

> including

> ways to rectify birthtime errors.

>

> SK VARSHNEY HISAR India 21.05.2003

>

>

> The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

> http://search.

>

 

 

 

 

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