Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Dear Tarun and Tanvir, I have read on this conjuction in one book as follows: -------------------------- In any society at any time there are good people and bad people. Good people are those who follow Dharma. In another word Jupiter gives Satvik property. In simple meaning Jupiter represents honesty of person. So combination of Jupiter - Rahu decrease honesty of person and he/she does not believe much in ethics. This is not about corruption of money etc. It is in terms of humanity and dignity. Such kind of people called 'Chandal' in Sankrit. They can do any kind of work, they can eat anything etc. ------------------------- This is off course opinion of author of book. I have same combination in my chart and I don't think that I'm such kind of person. Another thing is that this conjuction was occured in 1972 for atleast 6 months. I have 3 more close friend having this conjuction born in 1972. So including me 4 person. But I could not carry out any common factor between us regarding this conjuction and also not find such tendency in any of us. So finally I believe that this conjuction is misinterpreted by modern astrology. Its prediction should be something else may be more mystries. regards, Tushar --- Tarun Chopra <astrotarun wrote: > Dear Tanvir, > > I am not able to understand this that if Rahu and > Jupiter which are > conjunct for much long time say a rahu has 18 months > transit and > Jupiter around one year transit if at this > conjunction those person > who are born are not moral character I think. It > should be not like > this > > Hope you understand my point. I think a Jupiter is > benevolence > planet and rahu mystical planet when they are > conjunct a persons can > go deep into mystical science. And be a divine > person. But it must > take the affect of the house for example if Jupiter > is placed in > first house he will work for him self and other in > mystical way and > will be religious. If both planets placed in second > house it can > earn money from the sources of Jupiter but act in a > mystical way. So > that unexpected money will come in his life. > > If it is placed in fifth house he can be too learned > and work in a > mystical way for society. If Jupiter and rahu placed > in sixth house > he can be good in medical line and can treat people > or heal people > in mystical way. If it is placed in eight house he > can be a gang > leader and work in underworld. If Jupiter and rahu > conjunct in 12th > house may be he could lead a very spiritual life and > experience > divinity like that > > I hope to hear your comments on this > > Regards > > Tarun Chopra > > > > regards > > Tarun Chopra > > , "Tanvir" > <tanvir@s...> > wrote: > > Dear Tarun, > > > > The chart has Guru-Chandala Yoga as I already > stated in another > list. > > > > Guru-Chandala yoga means conjunction of Rahu and > Jupiter. Guru is > Jupiter we alreadt know, and Chandal = Rahu. [i > guess Chandal means > something mean etc., not sure.] Similarly Sun-Rahu > conjunction gives > Aditya-Chandal yoga etc. > > > > This yoga gives tendency to act immoral, mean, > illegal etc. It is > also said to make the person cause terrorism and > call in havoc etc. > Jupiter's qualities are destroyed by terrorist Rahu > ! > > > > Rahu is a very mean planet with destroying > quality, very tamasic > in nature. > > Thus when he joins the satvic Jupiter, the most > benefic planet of > virtue, dharma, he destroys this, at least weakens > to a great scale. > > > > Also watch out that Ju is debilitated here... > significally weak ! > Please look for any neecha bhanga factors... > > > > Regards, > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > tanvir@s... > > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > > > > > - > > Tarun Chopra > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:58 AM > > can any one read this lagna > kundali > > > > > > Hello Members and Tanvir > > > > Can any one could tell me any thing about this > person he is male > in > > its 30 the horoscope is > > > > Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras > > > -------------------- > > Ascendant Virgo 15° 7' Hasta > > Sun Libra 21° 55' Visakha > > Moon Scorpio 1° 9' Visakha > > Mars R Aries 19° 32' Bharani > > Mercury Scorpio 14° 23' Anuradha > > Jupiter Capricorn 22° 8' Shravan > > Venus Sagittarius 8° 9' Mula > > Saturn R Gemini 23° 13' Punarvasu > > Rahu Capricorn 0° 0' > Uttarashadha > > Ketu Cancer 0° 0' Punarvasu > > Uranus Libra 12° 37' Swati > > Neptune Scorpio 24° 31' Jyestha > > Pluto Virgo 23° 56' Chitra > > > > > > with regards > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Dear Tarun, I am aware of the fact that both being slow mover, the yoga can last for long. But that is what the Sastra says! If you take this fact, then many of the jyotish facts becomes useless! Sani stays in debilitation for 2.5 yrs and million people all over the world are born in that time! So will not they feel the effect of fallen Saturn? Even though Moon is the fastest mover, then total 1/12th of the whole population would have Moon in fall sign. Total 1/12th of the whole population would have particular planets in same fallen and exalted etc. If you think from that stage, 1/12th people would have exalted Su - does that mean exalted Su has no value? Same to other planets... ... Also, you have to consider a lot of other things like how close they are, what's is the strength of Ju VS Rahu etc... if lagna / lord is being affected by any of them... if Sa / Ma if aspecting the conjunction ... what houses Ju rules etc etc etc - I do not think you will have to be reminded by me! You are a practicing astrologer and so are suppossed to know much more than many of the "beginners" and "novice"! :-) Though this yoga lasts for long but it also does occur after long times... that is why it becomes same "common" (statistically and from the view of effect) as an fallen Sani or fallen Moon... though Moon and Sa are totally different in motion but statistically 1/12th of all would have fallen moon and fallen saturn ! So thinking all these I think it is better to forget about all these time wasting statistics and better judge what the chart says :-) I do not think rahu is mystical... might be sometimes people can not understand his meanness / cunning tricks of destruction so call him 'mystic' He is materially good but no doubt he will crash Ju's significators at least hamper them a lot unless other matters are strong... he is against just, honour, truth ! Do not forget how he disguised himself as a god and even now he devours the Sun... BTW, as you said, 2nd house is not for earning! It is for saving money ie bank ballance or other kinds of saving and "having money at hand". Earning is 11th, with weak 11th but strong 2nd the person will earn less but gradually save money and have a good bank ballance. But with weak 2nd but strong 11th the person will earn a lot but will not save, and sometimes will face money prob for short time - this is a very basis teaching and my experience finds this true, too! :-)))) Any discussion from anyone is welcome... ... Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury tanvir http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - Tarun Chopra Thursday, May 22, 2003 5:58 PM Guru Chandal Yoga Dear Tanvir, I am not able to understand this that if Rahu and Jupiter which are conjunct for much long time say a rahu has 18 months transit and Jupiter around one year transit if at this conjunction those person who are born are not moral character I think. It should be not like this Hope you understand my point. I think a Jupiter is benevolence planet and rahu mystical planet when they are conjunct a persons can go deep into mystical science. And be a divine person. But it must take the affect of the house for example if Jupiter is placed in first house he will work for him self and other in mystical way and will be religious. If both planets placed in second house it can earn money from the sources of Jupiter but act in a mystical way. So that unexpected money will come in his life. If it is placed in fifth house he can be too learned and work in a mystical way for society. If Jupiter and rahu placed in sixth house he can be good in medical line and can treat people or heal people in mystical way. If it is placed in eight house he can be a gang leader and work in underworld. If Jupiter and rahu conjunct in 12th house may be he could lead a very spiritual life and experience divinity like that I hope to hear your comments on this Regards Tarun Chopra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Dear Tanvir, I fully agree with ur views. best regards Rajas , "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote: > Dear Tarun, > I am aware of the fact that both being slow mover, the yoga can last for long. But that is what the Sastra says! > > If you take this fact, then many of the jyotish facts becomes useless! Sani stays in debilitation for 2.5 yrs and million people all over the world are born in that time! So will not they feel the effect of fallen Saturn? Even though Moon is the fastest mover, then total 1/12th of the whole population would have Moon in fall sign. Total 1/12th of the whole population would have particular planets in same fallen and exalted etc. If you think from that stage, 1/12th people would have exalted Su - does that mean exalted Su has no value? Same to other planets... ... > > Also, you have to consider a lot of other things like how close they are, what's is the strength of Ju VS Rahu etc... if lagna / lord is being affected by any of them... if Sa / Ma if aspecting the conjunction ... what houses Ju rules etc etc etc - I do not think you will have to be reminded by me! You are a practicing astrologer and so are suppossed to know much more than many of the "beginners" and "novice"! :-) > > Though this yoga lasts for long but it also does occur after long times... that is why it becomes same "common" (statistically and from the view of effect) as an fallen Sani or fallen Moon... though Moon and Sa are totally different in motion but statistically 1/12th of all would have fallen moon and fallen saturn ! > > So thinking all these I think it is better to forget about all these time wasting statistics and better judge what the chart says :-) > > I do not think rahu is mystical... might be sometimes people can not understand his meanness / cunning tricks of destruction so call him 'mystic' He is materially good but no doubt he will crash Ju's significators at least hamper them a lot unless other matters are strong... he is against just, honour, truth ! Do not forget how he disguised himself as a god and even now he devours the Sun... > > BTW, as you said, 2nd house is not for earning! It is for saving money ie bank ballance or other kinds of saving and "having money at hand". Earning is 11th, with weak 11th but strong 2nd the person will earn less but gradually save money and have a good bank ballance. But with weak 2nd but strong 11th the person will earn a lot but will not save, and sometimes will face money prob for short time - this is a very basis teaching and my experience finds this true, too! :-)))) > > Any discussion from anyone is welcome... ... > > Regards, > Tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > tanvir@s... > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > > - > Tarun Chopra > > Thursday, May 22, 2003 5:58 PM > Guru Chandal Yoga > > > Dear Tanvir, > > I am not able to understand this that if Rahu and Jupiter which are > conjunct for much long time say a rahu has 18 months transit and > Jupiter around one year transit if at this conjunction those person > who are born are not moral character I think. It should be not like > this > > Hope you understand my point. I think a Jupiter is benevolence > planet and rahu mystical planet when they are conjunct a persons can > go deep into mystical science. And be a divine person. But it must > take the affect of the house for example if Jupiter is placed in > first house he will work for him self and other in mystical way and > will be religious. If both planets placed in second house it can > earn money from the sources of Jupiter but act in a mystical way. So > that unexpected money will come in his life. > > If it is placed in fifth house he can be too learned and work in a > mystical way for society. If Jupiter and rahu placed in sixth house > he can be good in medical line and can treat people or heal people > in mystical way. If it is placed in eight house he can be a gang > leader and work in underworld. If Jupiter and rahu conjunct in 12th > house may be he could lead a very spiritual life and experience > divinity like that > > I hope to hear your comments on this > > Regards > > Tarun Chopra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 respected sir, I am a 33 years old having guru chandal yoga in second house ( dhanu raashi ) of my chart. please tell me about its implications. More details of my chart are as follows :- NAME SWAPNIL DATE 3RD NOV 1972 TIME 7:50 AM PLACE KANPUR ( U.P.) LAGNA VRISHCHIK MERCURY VRISHCHIK (1) JUPITER & RAHU DHANU (2) SATURN VRISH (7) KETU MITHUN (8) MARS,MOON & VENUS KANYA (11) SUN TULA (12) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_26_99 Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Was reading about chandal yog. I just want to know how bad is it and is there any way to reduce its effect. Is there any planetary position that can be present in the chart that can reduce the effect of rahu and jupiter. How severe is the effect if these planets are in the 5th house. I dont understand anything about patrikas and graha position. I may not have give enuf info... tho i hope i get some response with this info provided. thanks s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikasgahlot Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Name: Praveen Date of Birth: 24-december-1978 Place of Birth: Kurukshetra (Haryana-India) Time of Birth: 07:22am. I want to know about my professional career. Whether I would get government job or private job (whether I would get job in police or not).Marriage is love or arrange and at which time. I will be highly thankful to you if you email all these information at my emailid. vikasgahlotastrology@gmail.com or vikasgahlotastrology@.co.in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priyanka_123 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hi All, I am very new to this forum and have almost NIL knowledge about astrology but have a keen interest. Regarding Guru Chandal yoga I have been reading time to time since last year .. as I got associated with a person having this yoga in his eleventh house, he is born in Nov 1972. The person lacks morality and faith in ethics.. He just goes by his on sweet will and morality , social laws are a useless things for him but most surprisingly he is a very lucky person in financial and all materialistic terms As I dont know much about astrolgy ..so not sure of the reason but the person has Guru Chandal Yoga in 11th house and in dhanu rashi. I also read somewhere that the person having this yoga may have chances of having disabled child.. ?? would be interested in knwoing and sdiscussing more on this topic. Thanks Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepa.bhandari Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Dear priyanka, There are many factors to consider before assessing implications of a yoga. You could post the birth details.. Best wishes Deepa PS- Do not apply literal meanings on your own regarding chances of a disabled child. These texts have to be seen in 21st century implications. Your gynae will tell you within 12 weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasisekaran_pti Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 OM GURUBHYO NAMAH namaste dear smt.priyanka, can you please get birth details of that person ? try if you can. dear sri.tushar, hence it is imperative that one should look into vargas to get a closer look at the grahas strength and disposition. the 'avastha' of the planet is of paramount importance. but how many of us look into that ? laid out rules are fully correct. unfortunately we dont apply them all, but rush for predictions. may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priyanka_123 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 [ Dear deepa and all The person who has Guruchandal yoga in his 11th house has birth details as follows .. 14 Nov 1972, 14:40 hrs born in Mumbai. quote=sasisekaran_pti]OM GURUBHYO NAMAH namaste dear smt.priyanka, can you please get birth details of that person ? try if you can. dear sri.tushar, hence it is imperative that one should look into vargas to get a closer look at the grahas strength and disposition. the 'avastha' of the planet is of paramount importance. but how many of us look into that ? laid out rules are fully correct. unfortunately we dont apply them all, but rush for predictions. may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikhil kumar varma Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 rahu is debilitated with jup. this person is irreligious,problematic man. born to trouble others- if iam not wrong. Remedies:- 9carats golden pukhraj = must 10&11mukhi rudraksha must test blue sapphire(neelam) tie on right arm on sat for 1 week-if suits then go ahead wear in silver middle finger.(if not then go for 14 mukhi rudraksha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikhil kumar varma Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 DO NOT MARRY WITH HIM AT ALL. MONEY IS NOT EVERYTHING IN LIFE MADAM. give me ur birth details priyanka madam. note down my mess = nikil1 we can further discuss there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikhil kumar varma Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Hi All, I am very new to this forum and have almost NIL knowledge about astrology but have a keen interest. Regarding Guru Chandal yoga I have been reading time to time since last year .. as I got associated with a person having this yoga in his eleventh house, he is born in Nov 1972. The person lacks morality and faith in ethics.. He just goes by his on sweet will and morality , social laws are a useless things for him but most surprisingly he is a very lucky person in financial and all materialistic terms As I dont know much about astrolgy ..so not sure of the reason but the person has Guru Chandal Yoga in 11th house and in dhanu rashi. I also read somewhere that the person having this yoga may have chances of having disabled child.. ?? would be interested in knwoing and sdiscussing more on this topic. Thanks Regards this person doesnt have any moral fear. rahu is debilitated with jup. this person is irreligious,problematic man. born to trouble others- if iam not wrong. Remedies:- 9carats golden pukhraj = must 10&11mukhi rudraksha must test blue sapphire(neelam) tie on right arm on sat for 1 week-if suits then go ahead wear in silver middle finger.(if not then go for 14 mukhi rudraksha) <!-- / message --> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikhil kumar varma Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 give me ur DOB. rudraksha will protect u throughout ur life. dont worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikhil kumar varma Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 u will not have a disabled child - 100% damn sure. dont worry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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