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Namaste.

 

I am getting 1900 Leo Asc. for you.

 

I think it is a little difficult chart. Asc lord, exalted+Vargottama in 9th. But

is some little weak being 0033. YK Mars in 12th, fallen, though Neecha Bhanga by

Jupiter, still I would consider troubled.

 

For marriage and relationship, I would say that this chart is difficult. 7L Sat

itself is there in Asc., Rx, and very weak being 0012. It is very bad indeed.

Saturn is directionally weak in lagna always, it is like fallen.

 

Asc lord and 7L both are in the star of Ketu, which is in 8th of troubles,

obstruction, separation etc. Ketu is playing a subtle but powerful play here,

beyond our eyes.

 

To my mind, if with this chart, you have only 'Some' problems in relationship, I

will say you are a very lucky person. This chart suggests some bigger problem in

relationship, actually.

 

Did you have any health prob in sat or ketu periods? or any accident,

obstruction etc.?

 

Sat MD seems to make you suffer about health and relationship issues. Pev Ju MD

was a lot better, surely.

 

I think there are more basic problem and basic unhappiness in your relationship

than only separation. YK Mars is not able to help much for this. Both Ketu and

Sat are doing a lot of problems. Esp Sat is very weak, like a dead old man...

 

Did you try red coral and/or yell sapphire? I think, yell sapphire might be the

most appropriate stone for you since it rules a trikona, and disposits the Ketu

in 8th. Did you try them?

 

And did you try Ganesha mantra to appease Ketu and Narayana mantra for Saturn?

 

Ketu and Saturn are the causes here as you already know I guess.

 

You are expecting Ve periods to be good. Look at your past and see what periods

were good. I think Ju periods are pretty good in this regard. What periods were

good, they will be good in the future too. And same about bad periods. Let me

know. How were Mars and Sat perios? Were not Ke periods bad about your

relationship problems?

 

There seems to be some problem in family life too, since Mars isnt comfortable.

 

Regards,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

 

 

 

 

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Namaste

 

Thanks for taking out time and analyzing my chart. Yes

I have 1900 Leo Ascendant. Yes Ascendant Lord, Sun is

exalted in 9th at 0033 (Just wored ruby, 15 days back

to strengthen it).

 

I know something is going on (hidden from me, tried a

lot to find out but couldn't get it) So your

interpretation about Ketu is correct. And yes because

we got separated without any good reason (or say not

known to me) it would ceratainly have been effect of

ketu.

 

Yes for me its a big problem in relationships (as it

was separation from my intended) and don't know where

to head now.

 

No I don't had any serious health problem / accident

till now. As such, I don't have some major accident or

illness so far. Once I had a accident with bike, but

was a small one and I was all well in 2 days, just

some bruises nothing else.

 

Yes, my source on income stopped in Sat-mer-ket and my

income started again in sat-mer-jup. So for approx. 8

months, I was jobless.

 

Yes in Saturn MD, I had and having problems in

relationships and still going on. Health is good, no

major health problems.

 

Jupiter phase was overall good, as It was my study

time (school life) and I enjoyed it.

 

Sat-Sat was good period overall. Sat-Mer-Mer was

exceptionally good period for relationships. I had

lost all my hope but my love came to me. Then came

sat-mer-ket. Some problems cropped up, but still was

somewhat manageable, then things begin to worse since

then.

 

Saturn-mercury-moon was the worst phase for

relationships.

 

Please note that sadhesati phase started at June,

2000.

 

Earlier I was wearing a small red coral in silver,

then Sometime back, when I started studying astrology.

I purchased a good red coral (10 ratti) in gold, and

felt a bit better.

 

 

I am planning to buy Yellow Sapphire, I had seen one,

but as yellow sapphires are costly, I am right now

trying to save money, so I can buy it in future.

Ofcourse the gems should be of good quality otherwise

there is no point in wearing them.

 

 

I have started keeping fasts of UL (Sri Mahalaxmi in

my case) for past 2 months, so prior worshipping Sri

Mahalaxmi, there is a custom in hindu tradition to

worship Sri Ganesh, So I just do that on friday. No

ganesh mantra except that. I just say Om Sri Ganeshaya

Namah 2-3 times before worshipping Sri Laxmi. Yes I

read Vishnu Shaastranaam sometimes (when I get time).

Presently for Saturn. I recite beej mantra of saturn

(om Sham Shanisharya Namah, as many times as possible)

and Rudram Chamakan once in the morning.

 

Sat-Sat period was overall a good period (my college

life). Mars period were bad for in terms of money. In

ketu period there is no difference in the

relationships so far, though I feel, it has been good

in terms of spiritual progress.

 

In mars period, relationships might not have suffered

as I worship Sri Hanumaan ji daily and go to temple on

Tuesdays and I am doing this for years. so I guess

that might have saved me then.

 

 

There were some problems in our family due to my

father. But now, it's ok. There is only a minor

problem about my Dad's attitude about life and

different things, but overall a good family life now

(my mom, dad and brother).

 

I cannot say much about Venus period, but I don't know

why I am feeling that period to be good. One

astrologer told me that dec, 03 is going to be the

turning phase of your life. Now, as things are not

going good at this time, so turning phase could be

more worse or better. As venus is a natural benefic,

it is lord of 3rd and 10th (career) house place in 9th

(dharma) so I interpreted that it might be a good

phase. Though it is being with sun, but it is at

20:39:47, so not combusted and sun is at only 0033, so

venus may give some good results. This was my

interpretation with my limited knowledge of astrology

(gained in previous 4-5 months by reading books).

 

You are very good at astrology, as your concepts are

very much clear and you have got a good experience of

studying and interpreting charts. So, I wanted you to

have a look at it. I sincerely thank you for

intepreting my chart.

 

Any comments from your side for improving my

relationships is humbly requested.

 

kind regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> Namaste.

>

> I am getting 1900 Leo Asc. for you.

>

> I think it is a little difficult chart. Asc lord,

> exalted+Vargottama in 9th. But is some little weak

> being 0033. YK Mars in 12th, fallen, though Neecha

> Bhanga by Jupiter, still I would consider troubled.

>

> For marriage and relationship, I would say that this

> chart is difficult. 7L Sat itself is there in Asc.,

> Rx, and very weak being 0012. It is very bad indeed.

> Saturn is directionally weak in lagna always, it is

> like fallen.

>

> Asc lord and 7L both are in the star of Ketu, which

> is in 8th of troubles, obstruction, separation etc.

> Ketu is playing a subtle but powerful play here,

> beyond our eyes.

>

> To my mind, if with this chart, you have only 'Some'

> problems in relationship, I will say you are a very

> lucky person. This chart suggests some bigger

> problem in relationship, actually.

>

> Did you have any health prob in sat or ketu periods?

> or any accident, obstruction etc.?

>

> Sat MD seems to make you suffer about health and

> relationship issues. Pev Ju MD was a lot better,

> surely.

>

> I think there are more basic problem and basic

> unhappiness in your relationship than only

> separation. YK Mars is not able to help much for

> this. Both Ketu and Sat are doing a lot of problems.

> Esp Sat is very weak, like a dead old man...

>

> Did you try red coral and/or yell sapphire? I think,

> yell sapphire might be the most appropriate stone

> for you since it rules a trikona, and disposits the

> Ketu in 8th. Did you try them?

>

> And did you try Ganesha mantra to appease Ketu and

> Narayana mantra for Saturn?

>

> Ketu and Saturn are the causes here as you already

> know I guess.

>

> You are expecting Ve periods to be good. Look at

> your past and see what periods were good. I think Ju

> periods are pretty good in this regard. What periods

> were good, they will be good in the future too. And

> same about bad periods. Let me know. How were Mars

> and Sat perios? Were not Ke periods bad about your

> relationship problems?

>

> There seems to be some problem in family life too,

> since Mars isnt comfortable.

>

> Regards,

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> tanvir

> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

 

 

=====

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Wow, you have provided a lot of feedbacks. That is what astrologers need, thanks

for it.

 

Sat is the natural giver of sorrow and grief and he being directionally weak

might give you enjoyment in his period. But actually health and relationhip

should suffer. I guess your relationship did not start yet that time. But in Sat

PD's relationship should suffer, watch your past and see what happened.

 

You see that probs started from Ke PD, so it has a lot to say here. Ke star

disposits 7L Sat, so it will have a lot to say about your married life and

relationships. Ketu is in 8th house, so it was obvious that you were spiritually

better in Ke periods. Since Ke and 8th house both spirituality. But 8th house is

also about separation, destruction, loneliness, even cheating, immoral etc. So

when Ke is in 8th and star disposits 7L, I think you should start Ganesha Mantra

on urgent basis, everyday 108 times at least. Ganesha is a very auspicious deity

and his mantra never harms.

 

Merc is your 11+2L so solely rules your finance. But he is fallen, but Retro

same time. So mixed effects. He is in own star so good. So in Merc periods some

wobble about finance might be there, and see you lost job in Ke PD under Merc

AD, Ketu joins Merc. But Ju is in 11H-earning and good for you, so Ju saved you

then...

 

But since you regained your Job in the same Merc AD, it proved Merc isnt so bad

about your finance, then you would be jobless until the merc AD is over. But re

gaining job in the same AD proves that Merc is still supportive somehow, this is

because he is Rx I guess.

 

I think for you Ganesha mantra is very important.

 

About Moon, I do not know why Moon PD was v bad about it. The reason might be

that Moon is in 7H in D9, not seems a very strong reason to give a so bad time.

But if Moon is really responsible then other Moon PDs would be bad about this

relationship as usual. Otherwise, you have to understand that Sa-Me-Mo was bad

for some TR facts etc...

 

You are doing Rudram - propititating Sa, and Sa beeja Mantra - strengthening Sa.

Also, you are doing Hanumana mantra, propitiating Ma, and red coral,

strengthenng Ma. Rudram is very good but in general I do not prefer long mantras

since they give more chance to make pronunciation errors etc. For propitiating

Sa, you can do 8 syllable Narayana Mantra.

 

If I was you, I would stop Sa beeja mantra since he is a malefic for your Asc.

being 7L he might give some good about relationship but at last this should not

be good in real. I would leave both Hanumana Mantra and Sani Beeja mantra unless

I am REALLY 100% SURE about their effects. Like for me, Sa beeja mantra is

exceptionally good about some matters but exceptionally bad same time for other

facts. So, do not overlook to see the bad sides if any are there. And I would

use Narayana Mantra for Sa instead of Rudram and give prime importance on

Ganesha Mantra and see what happens.

 

Well I think, "Om Sham Shanisharya Namah" is the Samanya mantra of Saturn, and

the beeja one is, "Om praam preem praum sah shanayishraya namah"? Well their

effect is of same nature.

 

Another imp thing is not to say mantra countless times but say at least 108

times, and 108 X n times if you want to do much.

 

But actually in Mars period there is not much reason to prob in relationship

since Mars is your YK. Rather it would improve unless Mars was fallen in 12H.

And actually why did not Hanumana Mantra save your from money trouble in Mars

period you mentioned? Mars should be strengthen since benefic, not really

propitiated by Hanumana Mantra, I guess.

 

Actually Ve being in dharma house and being natural benefic might not ensure

better time for relationship. The only hope is Ve is significator of love and

romance and is in own navamsa. But actually in Ve period career might suffer.

See it is in 12th from own house (10H) and in Ketu's star who gave you jobless

condition, and Ketu is a planet of less material success.

 

*) Is all your Moon PDs bad about relationship?

*) How was Sa PDs about relationship?

*) How is Merc PDs about relationship apart from Merc AD?

 

I will write again later when I get some time. In the mean time, look at your

own PDs and see what PDs are better/worse about relationship. Tell me if

possible... I think Ju is better. Sa, Ke should be bad.

 

Looks like your relationship started in Sa-Me-Me. There is no such strong

indication for it, really. The onle explanation is that, Ketu is the major

disturbance in this regard since it star disposits your weak 7L Sat. And since

Merc is retro-fallen and joins Ketu, it has some say over Ketu. Also see that

Ketu harmed Merc in answer so in Ke PD under Merc AD, you become jobless. If

Merc was responsible for this jobless, you would not get job back in Merc AD

again. So Ketu was responsible and harmed Merc But after Ke PD was over, later

Ju PD (A good one as I always said) bring you the job bacj but you still were

under Merc AD.

 

Namaste,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Mail tanvir

Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

Jyotish discussion

-

Neeraj Gupta

Monday, August 25, 2003 11:50 AM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Namaste

 

Thanks for taking out time and analyzing my chart. Yes

I have 1900 Leo Ascendant. Yes Ascendant Lord, Sun is

exalted in 9th at 0033 (Just wored ruby, 15 days back

to strengthen it).

 

I know something is going on (hidden from me, tried a

lot to find out but couldn't get it) So your

interpretation about Ketu is correct. And yes because

we got separated without any good reason (or say not

known to me) it would ceratainly have been effect of

ketu.

 

Yes for me its a big problem in relationships (as it

was separation from my intended) and don't know where

to head now.

 

No I don't had any serious health problem / accident

till now. As such, I don't have some major accident or

illness so far. Once I had a accident with bike, but

was a small one and I was all well in 2 days, just

some bruises nothing else.

 

Yes, my source on income stopped in Sat-mer-ket and my

income started again in sat-mer-jup. So for approx. 8

months, I was jobless.

 

Yes in Saturn MD, I had and having problems in

relationships and still going on. Health is good, no

major health problems.

 

Jupiter phase was overall good, as It was my study

time (school life) and I enjoyed it.

 

Sat-Sat was good period overall. Sat-Mer-Mer was

exceptionally good period for relationships. I had

lost all my hope but my love came to me. Then came

sat-mer-ket. Some problems cropped up, but still was

somewhat manageable, then things begin to worse since

then.

 

Saturn-mercury-moon was the worst phase for

relationships.

 

Please note that sadhesati phase started at June,

2000.

 

Earlier I was wearing a small red coral in silver,

then Sometime back, when I started studying astrology.

I purchased a good red coral (10 ratti) in gold, and

felt a bit better.

 

 

I am planning to buy Yellow Sapphire, I had seen one,

but as yellow sapphires are costly, I am right now

trying to save money, so I can buy it in future.

Ofcourse the gems should be of good quality otherwise

there is no point in wearing them.

 

 

I have started keeping fasts of UL (Sri Mahalaxmi in

my case) for past 2 months, so prior worshipping Sri

Mahalaxmi, there is a custom in hindu tradition to

worship Sri Ganesh, So I just do that on friday. No

ganesh mantra except that. I just say Om Sri Ganeshaya

Namah 2-3 times before worshipping Sri Laxmi. Yes I

read Vishnu Shaastranaam sometimes (when I get time).

Presently for Saturn. I recite beej mantra of saturn

(om Sham Shanisharya Namah, as many times as possible)

and Rudram Chamakan once in the morning.

 

Sat-Sat period was overall a good period (my college

life). Mars period were bad for in terms of money. In

ketu period there is no difference in the

relationships so far, though I feel, it has been good

in terms of spiritual progress.

 

In mars period, relationships might not have suffered

as I worship Sri Hanumaan ji daily and go to temple on

Tuesdays and I am doing this for years. so I guess

that might have saved me then.

 

 

There were some problems in our family due to my

father. But now, it's ok. There is only a minor

problem about my Dad's attitude about life and

different things, but overall a good family life now

(my mom, dad and brother).

 

I cannot say much about Venus period, but I don't know

why I am feeling that period to be good. One

astrologer told me that dec, 03 is going to be the

turning phase of your life. Now, as things are not

going good at this time, so turning phase could be

more worse or better. As venus is a natural benefic,

it is lord of 3rd and 10th (career) house place in 9th

(dharma) so I interpreted that it might be a good

phase. Though it is being with sun, but it is at

20:39:47, so not combusted and sun is at only 0033, so

venus may give some good results. This was my

interpretation with my limited knowledge of astrology

(gained in previous 4-5 months by reading books).

 

You are very good at astrology, as your concepts are

very much clear and you have got a good experience of

studying and interpreting charts. So, I wanted you to

have a look at it. I sincerely thank you for

intepreting my chart.

 

Any comments from your side for improving my

relationships is humbly requested.

 

kind regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

 

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Thanks a lot. I have started Ganesh Mantra and Naryana

Mantra.

 

And stopped Shani Mantra (Om Sham Shanischarya Namah)

 

I recite Hanumaan chalisa, I guess it is a prayer

(aarti) and not a mantra, still in doubt, wether it

will harm me or protect me. Doing it for years

 

 

will write to you soon again

 

regards,

 

Neeraj

--- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> Wow, you have provided a lot of feedbacks. That is

> what astrologers need, thanks for it.

>

> Sat is the natural giver of sorrow and grief and he

> being directionally weak might give you enjoyment in

> his period. But actually health and relationhip

> should suffer. I guess your relationship did not

> start yet that time. But in Sat PD's relationship

> should suffer, watch your past and see what

> happened.

>

> You see that probs started from Ke PD, so it has a

> lot to say here. Ke star disposits 7L Sat, so it

> will have a lot to say about your married life and

> relationships. Ketu is in 8th house, so it was

> obvious that you were spiritually better in Ke

> periods. Since Ke and 8th house both spirituality.

> But 8th house is also about separation, destruction,

> loneliness, even cheating, immoral etc. So when Ke

> is in 8th and star disposits 7L, I think you should

> start Ganesha Mantra on urgent basis, everyday 108

> times at least. Ganesha is a very auspicious deity

> and his mantra never harms.

>

> Merc is your 11+2L so solely rules your finance. But

> he is fallen, but Retro same time. So mixed effects.

> He is in own star so good. So in Merc periods some

> wobble about finance might be there, and see you

> lost job in Ke PD under Merc AD, Ketu joins Merc.

> But Ju is in 11H-earning and good for you, so Ju

> saved you then...

>

> But since you regained your Job in the same Merc AD,

> it proved Merc isnt so bad about your finance, then

> you would be jobless until the merc AD is over. But

> re gaining job in the same AD proves that Merc is

> still supportive somehow, this is because he is Rx I

> guess.

>

> I think for you Ganesha mantra is very important.

>

> About Moon, I do not know why Moon PD was v bad

> about it. The reason might be that Moon is in 7H in

> D9, not seems a very strong reason to give a so bad

> time. But if Moon is really responsible then other

> Moon PDs would be bad about this relationship as

> usual. Otherwise, you have to understand that

> Sa-Me-Mo was bad for some TR facts etc...

>

> You are doing Rudram - propititating Sa, and Sa

> beeja Mantra - strengthening Sa. Also, you are doing

> Hanumana mantra, propitiating Ma, and red coral,

> strengthenng Ma. Rudram is very good but in general

> I do not prefer long mantras since they give more

> chance to make pronunciation errors etc. For

> propitiating Sa, you can do 8 syllable Narayana

> Mantra.

>

> If I was you, I would stop Sa beeja mantra since he

> is a malefic for your Asc. being 7L he might give

> some good about relationship but at last this should

> not be good in real. I would leave both Hanumana

> Mantra and Sani Beeja mantra unless I am REALLY 100%

> SURE about their effects. Like for me, Sa beeja

> mantra is exceptionally good about some matters but

> exceptionally bad same time for other facts. So, do

> not overlook to see the bad sides if any are there.

> And I would use Narayana Mantra for Sa instead of

> Rudram and give prime importance on Ganesha Mantra

> and see what happens.

>

> Well I think, "Om Sham Shanisharya Namah" is the

> Samanya mantra of Saturn, and the beeja one is, "Om

> praam preem praum sah shanayishraya namah"? Well

> their effect is of same nature.

>

> Another imp thing is not to say mantra countless

> times but say at least 108 times, and 108 X n times

> if you want to do much.

>

> But actually in Mars period there is not much reason

> to prob in relationship since Mars is your YK.

> Rather it would improve unless Mars was fallen in

> 12H. And actually why did not Hanumana Mantra save

> your from money trouble in Mars period you

> mentioned? Mars should be strengthen since benefic,

> not really propitiated by Hanumana Mantra, I guess.

>

> Actually Ve being in dharma house and being natural

> benefic might not ensure better time for

> relationship. The only hope is Ve is significator of

> love and romance and is in own navamsa. But actually

> in Ve period career might suffer. See it is in 12th

> from own house (10H) and in Ketu's star who gave you

> jobless condition, and Ketu is a planet of less

> material success.

>

> *) Is all your Moon PDs bad about relationship?

> *) How was Sa PDs about relationship?

> *) How is Merc PDs about relationship apart from

> Merc AD?

>

> I will write again later when I get some time. In

> the mean time, look at your own PDs and see what PDs

> are better/worse about relationship. Tell me if

> possible... I think Ju is better. Sa, Ke should be

> bad.

>

> Looks like your relationship started in Sa-Me-Me.

> There is no such strong indication for it, really.

> The onle explanation is that, Ketu is the major

> disturbance in this regard since it star disposits

> your weak 7L Sat. And since Merc is retro-fallen and

> joins Ketu, it has some say over Ketu. Also see that

> Ketu harmed Merc in answer so in Ke PD under Merc

> AD, you become jobless. If Merc was responsible for

> this jobless, you would not get job back in Merc AD

> again. So Ketu was responsible and harmed Merc But

> after Ke PD was over, later Ju PD (A good one as I

> always said) bring you the job bacj but you still

> were under Merc AD.

>

> Namaste,

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> Mail tanvir

> Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> Jyotish discussion

>

> -

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> Monday, August 25, 2003 11:50 AM

> Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

>

>

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Dear Tanvir,

>

> Namaste

>

> Thanks for taking out time and analyzing my chart.

> Yes

> I have 1900 Leo Ascendant. Yes Ascendant Lord, Sun

> is

> exalted in 9th at 0033 (Just wored ruby, 15 days

> back

> to strengthen it).

>

> I know something is going on (hidden from me,

> tried a

> lot to find out but couldn't get it) So your

> interpretation about Ketu is correct. And yes

> because

> we got separated without any good reason (or say

> not

> known to me) it would ceratainly have been effect

> of

> ketu.

>

> Yes for me its a big problem in relationships (as

> it

> was separation from my intended) and don't know

> where

> to head now.

>

> No I don't had any serious health problem /

> accident

> till now. As such, I don't have some major

> accident or

> illness so far. Once I had a accident with bike,

> but

> was a small one and I was all well in 2 days, just

> some bruises nothing else.

>

> Yes, my source on income stopped in Sat-mer-ket

> and my

> income started again in sat-mer-jup. So for

> approx. 8

> months, I was jobless.

>

> Yes in Saturn MD, I had and having problems in

> relationships and still going on. Health is good,

> no

> major health problems.

>

> Jupiter phase was overall good, as It was my study

> time (school life) and I enjoyed it.

>

> Sat-Sat was good period overall. Sat-Mer-Mer was

> exceptionally good period for relationships. I had

> lost all my hope but my love came to me. Then came

> sat-mer-ket. Some problems cropped up, but still

> was

>

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I saw your query in the vedic astrology list. Gurus are busy with

ingoing conference that is why you did not get a reply yet, I guess.

 

Prayers to Lord Hanumana should never do harm and always protect,

unless you do something wrong. Since Mars is a benefic for your asc.,

propitiating Mars is not really very important now. Rather taking

care of Ketu and Saturn is important, since you know Ketu periods

gave you problems.

 

Rudram, as I said, is very good but long, that is why it is very easy

to make mistake there.

 

I did not know that you have picked up Sani Beeja mantra from VRA, if

I knew, I would never felt it needed to check it out, surely :D

Still, before you take my suggestion, you should be sure from any

Guru like Visti Jee etc.

 

Namaste,

Tanvir

 

 

 

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<gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Dear Tanvir,

>

> Thanks a lot. I have started Ganesh Mantra and Naryana

> Mantra.

>

> And stopped Shani Mantra (Om Sham Shanischarya Namah)

>

> I recite Hanumaan chalisa, I guess it is a prayer

> (aarti) and not a mantra, still in doubt, wether it

> will harm me or protect me. Doing it for years

>

>

> will write to you soon again

>

> regards,

>

> Neeraj

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Sorry couldn't write in detail for past 2-3 days, as I

was very busy with office work and didn't get time to

look at my chart and the dashas in details. Last mail

I sent was in hurry.

 

So here is the feedbacks or say what happened with me

in past. Correcting a bit that was previously wrongly

stated due to wrong calculations in software

(kundali). Now double checking calculations with

Prashara and JHL 5.0. So hope, I won't be making

mistakes this time. Om Ganeshya Namah.

 

Sat-Sat Dasha (23. feb, 97 - 26.feb, 2000) was good

time overall, not only relationships. Though I didn't

had affair with anyone, had good friends, but overall

I was happy and mentally at peace. It was my college

life.

 

My relationship started in Sat-Mer-Mer (last week of

may, 2000 to be precise) and that was no doubt one of

the best periods of my life so far. Still remember

them and feel happy about it. So your interpretation

was correct about starting of relatioship.

 

Then came Sat-Mer-Ketu, there was no major problem, my

intended was a bit ill, so could we were separated for

sometime but still met once on her birthday and had a

beautiful time (aug, 2000). At this time we didn't had

any big differences or fights, so I can say it as a

good time. But we had some serious arguments regarding

our parents views on our relationship. So Ketu playing

its vital role her preparing somewhat hidden base for

future separation ( as far as my interpretation goes,

after reading your valuable comments)

 

 

Next came Sat-Mer-Venus, and we were separated again

for some time, as I was tranferred to a different town

from mine regarding a job. May be as venus is placed

in 9th house and ruling career house 10th would be a

reason for that, as I got transferred for my job, my

salary was hiked and sent to another state. For

relationships we talked on phone and met in feb, 2001

(that was really a good valentine day to be

remembered) . So it was overall OK, though there were

geographical distances between us.

 

 

Next came saturn-Mer-Sun, this was a good period and

just before the closure of this period i.e. 10th

April, 2001, we met for the last time. Met my intended

on 7th april, 2001 to be precise (might be some

seconds difference could have altered exact

calculations to 3 days). Thereafter, we didn't met.

 

Then in Sat-Mer-Moon, we couldn't meet each other,

neither could we talked on phone, so this frustrated

me (moon signfying mind, Saturn debiliated, Mercury

Retrograded, Debiliated as well, my speech must have

created problem) as I tried to call her at her home,

office and everywhere I can do. So problems started to

begin. In this phase only, I managed to get myself

transferred back in my hometown, though my salary was

declined.

 

And yes Dear Tanvir, YOU WERE VERY MUCH RIGHT, we had

a big fight in Sat-Mer-Mars (july, august, 2003) on

phone and that was end of our relationship from her

side. At that time I was not wearing Red Coral,

though I used to recite Hanumaan chalisa daily and go

to temple every tuesday.

 

 

Then even, I had good and positive feeling towards her

(and still have them, and pray GOD to be these

feelings forever), so used to send greeting cards to

her and her family on auspicious occasions. Never had

any complaint about it. Dasha running was Sat-Mer-Rahu

and Sat-Mer-Jup (31-aug-01 to 03-Jun-02). In

sat-mer-rahu, I lost my job (company closed down), so

no income for me.

 

Now came Sat-Mer-Sat (03-Jun-02 till 08-Nov-02),

recieved a call from her in Aug, 02, that I should not

send any greetings to her or her family. So finally

all closed down. Nothing to left with. Since then, she

haven't been in touch with me, not in anyway and that

was the final separation. And I got job in Sat-Mer-Sat

(17th july, 02 to be precise).

 

In sat-Ket dasha, I got spiritually inclined (because

of ketu, as you mentioned it) and I began to learn

astrology in this phase only, trying to understand,

what went wrong as I knew both Me and she is not at

fault?

 

So till now, haven't met her or talked to her. Also at

present my job is OK (not good, looking for a change

for last 8 months but not successful till yet). Hope

to get job changed in Sat-Ven dasha. Not sure how it

will be about relationships.

 

Now as per your suggestion, I have started following.

 

1) Ganesha Mantra

 

2) Narayana Mantra

 

and Also I am doing following

 

1) Fasting on UL Day (Friday) for Lakshmi Ji

 

2) Reciting Maha Mrityunjaya

 

3) Reciting Rudram Chamakam ( I am sure about

proununciation, as I have studied Sanskrit for 3 years

in my school time). I am reciting only that para that

is mentioned in Pg 170 of VRA.

 

4) Reciting Hanumaan Chalisa, Hanuman Ashatak and

Hanumaan Stavan (but now confused, whether to continue

or not)

 

5) Going to temple every tuesdays (now confused,

whether to continue or not)

 

6) Reading Vishu Shastraanam, whenver I get time.

 

And I have stopped the following;

 

1) Beeja Mantra of Saturn (given on pg 170 of VRA).

 

 

I don't know much about propitation. I thought If I am

reciting Beeja Mantra of Saturn, or say dontaing black

seeds and black cloth on saturday it's propitating.

 

And also confused that will reciting Hanumaan chalisa

will give strength to mars or propitate it.

 

Well I have written quite a lot of things, but still

If I had missed anything, Kindly let me know.

 

You asked the following three.

 

*) Is all your Moon PDs bad about relationship?

Answer: Don't remember in case of Rah-Moon (too young

at that time) and in Jup-Moon, I was in school, so no

relationship problems at that time. Same hold true for

Rah-Mar and Jup-Mars

 

*) How was Sa PDs about relationship?

 

Answer: In Saturn-Saturn, I didn't had any

relationship or affair, but felt attracted towards

opposite sex.

 

*) How is Merc PDs about relationship apart from Merc

AD?

 

Sat-Mer PD was a GOOD ONE for my relationship. Cannot

say about Jup-Mer and Rah-Mer. Now waiting for your

EXPERT comments. If you will say to stop Hanumaan

chalisa and going to temple on tuesdays, I will stop.

You know better than me. Please go through Pg 170 and

171 of VRA. There might be something, that I haven't

understood properly and kindly guide me accordingly.

 

Kind regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

--- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> Wow, you have provided a lot of feedbacks. That is

> what astrologers need, thanks for it.

>

> Sat is the natural giver of sorrow and grief and he

> being directionally weak might give you enjoyment in

> his period. But actually health and relationhip

> should suffer. I guess your relationship did not

> start yet that time. But in Sat PD's relationship

> should suffer, watch your past and see what

> happened.

>

> You see that probs started from Ke PD, so it has a

> lot to say here. Ke star disposits 7L Sat, so it

> will have a lot to say about your married life and

> relationships. Ketu is in 8th house, so it was

> obvious that you were spiritually better in Ke

> periods. Since Ke and 8th house both spirituality.

> But 8th house is also about separation, destruction,

> loneliness, even cheating, immoral etc. So when Ke

> is in 8th and star disposits 7L, I think you should

> start Ganesha Mantra on urgent basis, everyday 108

> times at least. Ganesha is a very auspicious deity

> and his mantra never harms.

>

> Merc is your 11+2L so solely rules your finance. But

> he is fallen, but Retro same time. So mixed effects.

> He is in own star so good. So in Merc periods some

> wobble about finance might be there, and see you

> lost job in Ke PD under Merc AD, Ketu joins Merc.

> But Ju is in 11H-earning and good for you, so Ju

> saved you then...

>

> But since you regained your Job in the same Merc AD,

> it proved Merc isnt so bad about your finance, then

> you would be jobless until the merc AD is over. But

> re gaining job in the same AD proves that Merc is

> still supportive somehow, this is because he is Rx I

> guess.

>

> I think for you Ganesha mantra is very important.

>

> About Moon, I do not know why Moon PD was v bad

> about it. The reason might be that Moon is in 7H in

> D9, not seems a very strong reason to give a so bad

> time. But if Moon is really responsible then other

> Moon PDs would be bad about this relationship as

> usual. Otherwise, you have to understand that

> Sa-Me-Mo was bad for some TR facts etc...

>

> You are doing Rudram - propititating Sa, and Sa

> beeja Mantra - strengthening Sa. Also, you are doing

> Hanumana mantra, propitiating Ma, and red coral,

> strengthenng Ma. Rudram is very good but in general

> I do not prefer long mantras since they give more

> chance to make pronunciation errors etc. For

> propitiating Sa, you can do 8 syllable Narayana

> Mantra.

>

> If I was you, I would stop Sa beeja mantra since he

> is a malefic for your Asc. being 7L he might give

> some good about relationship but at last this should

> not be good in real. I would leave both Hanumana

> Mantra and Sani Beeja mantra unless I am REALLY 100%

> SURE about their effects. Like for me, Sa beeja

> mantra is exceptionally good about some matters but

> exceptionally bad same time for other facts. So, do

> not overlook to see the bad sides if any are there.

> And I would use Narayana Mantra for Sa instead of

> Rudram and give prime importance on Ganesha Mantra

> and see what happens.

>

> Well I think, "Om Sham Shanisharya Namah" is the

> Samanya mantra of Saturn, and the beeja one is, "Om

> praam preem praum sah shanayishraya namah"? Well

> their effect is of same nature.

>

> Another imp thing is not to say mantra countless

> times but say at least 108 times, and 108 X n times

> if you want to do much.

>

> But actually in Mars period there is not much reason

> to prob in relationship since Mars is your YK.

> Rather it would improve unless Mars was fallen in

> 12H. And actually why did not Hanumana Mantra save

> your from money trouble in Mars period you

> mentioned? Mars should be strengthen since benefic,

> not really propitiated by Hanumana Mantra, I guess.

>

> Actually Ve being in dharma house and being natural

> benefic might not ensure better time for

> relationship. The only hope is Ve is significator of

> love and romance and is in own navamsa. But actually

> in Ve period career might suffer. See it is in 12th

> from own house (10H) and in Ketu's star who gave you

> jobless condition, and Ketu is a planet of less

> material success.

>

> *) Is all your Moon PDs bad about relationship?

> *) How was Sa PDs about relationship?

> *) How is Merc PDs about relationship apart from

> Merc AD?

>

> I will write again later when I get some time. In

> the mean time, look at your own PDs and see what PDs

> are better/worse about relationship. Tell me if

> possible... I think Ju is better. Sa, Ke should be

> bad.

>

> Looks like your relationship started in Sa-Me-Me.

> There is no such strong indication for it, really.

> The onle explanation is that, Ketu is the major

> disturbance in this regard since it star disposits

> your weak 7L Sat. And since Merc is retro-fallen and

> joins Ketu, it has some say over Ketu. Also see that

> Ketu harmed Merc in answer so in Ke PD under Merc

> AD, you become jobless. If Merc was responsible for

> this jobless, you would not get job back in Merc AD

> again. So Ketu was responsible and harmed Merc But

> after Ke PD was over, later Ju PD (A good one as I

> always said) bring you the job bacj but you still

> were under Merc AD.

>

> Namaste,

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> Mail tanvir

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>

> -

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> Monday, August 25, 2003 11:50 AM

> Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

>

>

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Dear Tanvir,

>

> Namaste

>

> Thanks for taking out time and analyzing my chart.

> Yes

> I have 1900 Leo Ascendant. Yes Ascendant Lord, Sun

> is

> exalted in 9th at 0033 (Just wored ruby, 15 days

> back

> to strengthen it).

>

> I know something is going on (hidden from me,

> tried a

> lot to find out but couldn't get it) So your

> interpretation about Ketu is correct. And yes

> because

> we got separated without any good reason (or say

> not

> known to me) it would ceratainly have been effect

> of

> ketu.

>

> Yes for me its a big problem in relationships (as

> it

> was separation from my intended) and don't know

> where

> to head now.

>

> No I don't had any serious health problem /

> accident

> till now. As such, I don't have some major

> accident or

> illness so far. Once I had a accident with bike,

> but

> was a small one and I was all well in 2 days, just

> some bruises nothing else.

>

> Yes, my source on income stopped in Sat-mer-ket

> and my

> income started again in sat-mer-jup. So for

> approx. 8

> months, I was jobless.

>

> Yes in Saturn MD, I had and having problems in

> relationships and still going on. Health is good,

> no

> major health problems.

>

> Jupiter phase was overall good, as It was my study

> time (school life) and I enjoyed it.

>

> Sat-Sat was good period overall. Sat-Mer-Mer was

> exceptionally good period for relationships. I had

> lost all my hope but my love came to me. Then came

> sat-mer-ket. Some problems cropped up, but still

> was

>

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Namaste.

 

Some things to observe -

 

1. You had a big fight with her in Ma PD (Sa-Me-Ma) and Mars is in the star of

7L Sat which is like fallen in the 1st house [directionally weak]. It was end

from her part as you said. Mars doing things in this area is bec it is in the

star of 7L. STILL, it shouldnt do this harm being a YK for you, it's hard for me

to believe.

 

That is why i guess that something is wrong with the Hanumana worship you are

doing... may be?

 

Something to clarify as you asked -

 

1. Propitiation means cooling down a malefic planets harm. Like you pray to

Hanumana for Mars, Narayana for Sani etc. But if you do something wrong with

Hanumana then mars will be DISPLEASED. Kindly note here that Mars is your YK so

propitiating Mars is really not needed for you. Sometimes even YK needs

propitiation, that topic is out of context here, and does not apply to your

case.

 

What you have to understand that Mars is YK and good for you, you really need

not to pray to Hanumana for it as urgent, rather doing anything wrong in the

prayer will backfire. Now Mars gave you bad for any of two reasons -

 

1. Any mistake in hanumana worship.

2. Mars is disposited by fallen 7L star.

 

Now #2 is surely working but I am not sure about #1.

 

About reason #2, Mars though giving you bad but it is for Saturn's indulgence,

and Mars is innocent. It is like someone (Sat) is telling you (Mars) something

bad about me and so you misbehave with me. Now if I fight you (Mars) back then

it will work only little / none bec you are a good guy but motivated by another

bad guy (Sat) who is behind all these.

 

Same thing happens to my own life bec my Moon is in 7th in Sat star and thus Sat

controls moons motivation and Moon gives me all bad results in its periods. But

when I address moon it does no improvement, but when I address Sat, Moon

immediately stops giving bad.

 

I keep seeing cases like this and your case is the latest case of how imp star

disposition is.

 

So in Mars PD, it was 85% end of the relationship, bec Sat star disposits Mars.

 

AND THE FINAL PROVE IS THAT, In sat own PD, it was 100% end from her side since

she called you and told you to stop sending cards.

 

Now you see what Sat is doing here. See my older posts I made Sat a point there,

and clearly told that since Sat is fallen (Directionally) and 7L, it must do

bad. And now you see I was correct.

 

Noe as per your question, a beeja mantra of planet STRENGTHENS IT. Now you are

doing beeja mantra of Sani. Sanjay jee has suggested Rudram+Sani beeja mantra as

for Sade Sati. When Sanjay Jee suggested then you can surely depend on it

without any confusion, that is for sure. But Sade Sati is not more serious than

your natal chart, the harm saturn is doing. You are saying that you are confused

what VRA meant. Then I suggest that when you are confused, ask any Guru what it

meant, and be sure this way.

 

So I guess that when you are confused, ask Visti Jee or Sanjay Jee if it is good

for you to recite Sani Beeja mantra. Tell them about the harm Sani did (As you

see from your PDs) and then take their suggestion as per if you should take /

leave Sani beeja mantra.

 

So I suggest you take their expert opinion by asking them.

 

Donation is good to propitiate but from my life I see it backfiring me always.

So, it is always good to do what you really sure about. When you do a lot of

mantras same time you can not differenciate the effects easily. So start one, be

sure of it's effect and closely watch your days. Then start another after you

know of the previous mantras/remedies effect.

 

Reciting Hanuman Chalise/Hanumana mantra is for if mars is malefic to you. But

Mars is your yoga karaka, then what is the need to propitiate it. You should

rather focus on Saturn and Ketu. And take Gurus expert opinion on Beeja mantras,

and do accordingly.

 

And I would also suggest Narayana Mantra as I already did. Also I suggest fast

on Saturdays. It is important for you to propitiate Saturn generally.

 

Also, I do not suggest a lot of remedies and mantras same time. Sanjay Jee's

books are brilliant (I have 'Narayana Dasa' it's wonderful) but if you are

confused then first please ask any Guru and take their expert opinion about it,

and take their help to understand what the chapter of the book meant.

 

So for now first stress on Saturn by fasting and Narayana Mantra and on ketu by

Ganesha mantra and take Gurus expert opinion on beeja mantra. Visti Jee

suggested Narayana mantra for general propitiation of Saturn. You can ask Visti

Jee or Sanjay jee, and follow their advise on beeja mantra.

 

Regards,

Tanvir

 

 

 

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Thanks a lot for studying my chart and clarifying my

doubts, the following example was wonderful way of

explaining.

 

> About reason #2, Mars though giving you bad but it

> is for Saturn's indulgence, and Mars is innocent. It

> is like someone (Sat) is telling you (Mars)

> something bad about me and so you misbehave with me.

> Now if I fight you (Mars) back then it will work

> only little / none bec you are a good guy but

> motivated by another bad guy (Sat) who is behind all

> these.

 

 

Though, I have not recieved any answer to my mail

written on SJC and Vedic Astrology Group, but I mark

your words and have stopped Beeja Mantra of Saturn.

 

I had already started Narayana Mantra and Ganesh

Mantra, as you have guided me in your previous mail.

 

Thanks a lot for your suggestions and CONTINUOUS

SUPPORT.

 

Kind regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

--- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> Namaste.

>

> Some things to observe -

>

> 1. You had a big fight with her in Ma PD (Sa-Me-Ma)

> and Mars is in the star of 7L Sat which is like

> fallen in the 1st house [directionally weak]. It was

> end from her part as you said. Mars doing things in

> this area is bec it is in the star of 7L. STILL, it

> shouldnt do this harm being a YK for you, it's hard

> for me to believe.

>

> That is why i guess that something is wrong with the

> Hanumana worship you are doing... may be?

>

> Something to clarify as you asked -

>

> 1. Propitiation means cooling down a malefic planets

> harm. Like you pray to Hanumana for Mars, Narayana

> for Sani etc. But if you do something wrong with

> Hanumana then mars will be DISPLEASED. Kindly note

> here that Mars is your YK so propitiating Mars is

> really not needed for you. Sometimes even YK needs

> propitiation, that topic is out of context here, and

> does not apply to your case.

>

> What you have to understand that Mars is YK and good

> for you, you really need not to pray to Hanumana for

> it as urgent, rather doing anything wrong in the

> prayer will backfire. Now Mars gave you bad for any

> of two reasons -

>

> 1. Any mistake in hanumana worship.

> 2. Mars is disposited by fallen 7L star.

>

> Now #2 is surely working but I am not sure about #1.

>

>

> About reason #2, Mars though giving you bad but it

> is for Saturn's indulgence, and Mars is innocent. It

> is like someone (Sat) is telling you (Mars)

> something bad about me and so you misbehave with me.

> Now if I fight you (Mars) back then it will work

> only little / none bec you are a good guy but

> motivated by another bad guy (Sat) who is behind all

> these.

>

> Same thing happens to my own life bec my Moon is in

> 7th in Sat star and thus Sat controls moons

> motivation and Moon gives me all bad results in its

> periods. But when I address moon it does no

> improvement, but when I address Sat, Moon

> immediately stops giving bad.

>

> I keep seeing cases like this and your case is the

> latest case of how imp star disposition is.

>

> So in Mars PD, it was 85% end of the relationship,

> bec Sat star disposits Mars.

>

> AND THE FINAL PROVE IS THAT, In sat own PD, it was

> 100% end from her side since she called you and told

> you to stop sending cards.

>

> Now you see what Sat is doing here. See my older

> posts I made Sat a point there, and clearly told

> that since Sat is fallen (Directionally) and 7L, it

> must do bad. And now you see I was correct.

>

> Noe as per your question, a beeja mantra of planet

> STRENGTHENS IT. Now you are doing beeja mantra of

> Sani. Sanjay jee has suggested Rudram+Sani beeja

> mantra as for Sade Sati. When Sanjay Jee suggested

> then you can surely depend on it without any

> confusion, that is for sure. But Sade Sati is not

> more serious than your natal chart, the harm saturn

> is doing. You are saying that you are confused what

> VRA meant. Then I suggest that when you are

> confused, ask any Guru what it meant, and be sure

> this way.

>

> So I guess that when you are confused, ask Visti Jee

> or Sanjay Jee if it is good for you to recite Sani

> Beeja mantra. Tell them about the harm Sani did (As

> you see from your PDs) and then take their

> suggestion as per if you should take / leave Sani

> beeja mantra.

>

> So I suggest you take their expert opinion by asking

> them.

>

> Donation is good to propitiate but from my life I

> see it backfiring me always. So, it is always good

> to do what you really sure about. When you do a lot

> of mantras same time you can not differenciate the

> effects easily. So start one, be sure of it's effect

> and closely watch your days. Then start another

> after you know of the previous mantras/remedies

> effect.

>

> Reciting Hanuman Chalise/Hanumana mantra is for if

> mars is malefic to you. But Mars is your yoga

> karaka, then what is the need to propitiate it. You

> should rather focus on Saturn and Ketu. And take

> Gurus expert opinion on Beeja mantras, and do

> accordingly.

>

> And I would also suggest Narayana Mantra as I

> already did. Also I suggest fast on Saturdays. It is

> important for you to propitiate Saturn generally.

>

> Also, I do not suggest a lot of remedies and mantras

> same time. Sanjay Jee's books are brilliant (I have

> 'Narayana Dasa' it's wonderful) but if you are

> confused then first please ask any Guru and take

> their expert opinion about it, and take their help

> to understand what the chapter of the book meant.

>

> So for now first stress on Saturn by fasting and

> Narayana Mantra and on ketu by Ganesha mantra and

> take Gurus expert opinion on beeja mantra. Visti Jee

> suggested Narayana mantra for general propitiation

> of Saturn. You can ask Visti Jee or Sanjay jee, and

> follow their advise on beeja mantra.

>

> Regards,

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> Mail tanvir

> Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> Jyotish discussion

>

>

>

>

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There is something to clarify in order to aovid misuderstanding. I did not

suggest to stop Sat beeja AS FINAL. First time I said that beeja mantras

strengthen, so do not do it unless you are really sure about it being good for

you. I did not know that it was mentioned in VRA that time. Then you said me

that it was picked up from VRA. But you also said that you did not understand

what actually it meant, and asked if I can help you to understand. But as I do

not have VRA, I could not help you to understand and so I suggested that ask

Gurus to be confirm BECAUSE you are confused / unable to understand what it

really meant. (The VRA section)

 

But I really did not mean to stop it as a final suggestion, remember when I

heard from you that it was in VRA then I said that if I knew that you picked up

it from VRA, I would not doubt about it, because we all know the excellence of

depth of Sanjay Jee. But then you told me about your confusion so I suggested

that be sure from Gurus.

 

So see, it would be wrong to say that I suggested to stop the beeja mantra. My

final suggestion is to add Narayana Mantra and Ganesha mantra while leaving the

rest remedies on your personal choice :-)

 

You are always welcome and I generally try to honour the requests of

participating members who contributes to the list etc. In general I do not have

time to answer to predictions for new members because then I would have to spend

a huge time on it, which I am unable to do so...

 

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Saturday, September 06, 2003 6:48 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Thanks a lot for studying my chart and clarifying my

doubts, the following example was wonderful way of

explaining.

 

> About reason #2, Mars though giving you bad but it

> is for Saturn's indulgence, and Mars is innocent. It

> is like someone (Sat) is telling you (Mars)

> something bad about me and so you misbehave with me.

> Now if I fight you (Mars) back then it will work

> only little / none bec you are a good guy but

> motivated by another bad guy (Sat) who is behind all

> these.

 

 

Though, I have not recieved any answer to my mail

written on SJC and Vedic Astrology Group, but I mark

your words and have stopped Beeja Mantra of Saturn.

 

I had already started Narayana Mantra and Ganesh

Mantra, as you have guided me in your previous mail.

 

Thanks a lot for your suggestions and CONTINUOUS

SUPPORT.

 

Kind regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

 

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Dear Tanvir and members,

 

 

All of Tanvir's mails on Neeraj's chart are really

very interesting. I always feel exiting when someone

can predict correct timings as I'm highly weak in this

regards. While discussion of Neeraj's chart 1-2

confusion came in my mind. Major issue was

relationship, as Neeraj has described almost

everything happened in Sat Mahadasha. Now what this

means? First reading is that Saturn is melific for him

but he experienced best time also in Sat's period. It

means that Antardasha(s) are more important? or I

would like to put my confusion in different words that

what is the significance then of Main Mahadasha?

 

I have passed through almost similar experiences may

be more intense. I have tried to analyse my past

experiences. I have passed only one full Maha Dasha

which was also Sat's Dasha and some part of Jupiter

and some of Mercury which is also currrent. But I

could not find any pattern or relation in Antardashas

and my past. I mean I could not understand how it had

worked. Infact in my case it seems like Astotari Dasha

is more reflecting my past, little more closer. I have

also read somewhere that if Asc. degrees is between 1

to 8 or between 24 to 30 then Astotari Dasha is

applicable otherwise Vimshotari. It seems illogical

but I don'know. Is there any such rule(s)?

 

I think most of astrologer follows Vimshotari Dasha,

can anyone give some basic rule regarding relationship

of MD-AD-PD and its effect especially when any two or

all three are of different nature of planets in terms

of malefic/benific.

 

regards,

 

Tushar

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I just saw that Zoran jee suggested that you can go with the beeja mantra :-)

 

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Thanks for guiding me and suggesting me to clarify the

reciting of mantra through gurus.

 

So, I am starting shani mantra again from today.

Thanks for your help and everything.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

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>

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>

>

>

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>

>

>

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I was not predicting anything, I was finding reasons after they happened, which

is very easy! I am weak at prediction too!!!!! LOL !!!

 

The main MD's role is to create a boundary of the life out of which no AD / TR

can go. As an example, if a MD is so bad about your homes and residence, the

best AD can not make you own a house. At best, you can live in a house with

comfort for the great AD, under very bad MD. Because MD doesnt let the AD go out

of the boundary.

 

Similarly,

 

V bad MD + normal AD = very bad

 

Bad MD + Good AD = temporary relief for the AD

 

V bad MD + Bad AD = (related to residence) can make you pass your days even on

roads

 

On the other hand If the MD is v good about homes, a v bad AD can not trouble

you with something permanent but only with temporary.

 

Similarly AD deices the boundary of PD. good MD + good AD + V bad PD = only

little troubles for the PD like the a/c of your room isnt working or the

electricity is disturbing etc.

 

BPHS says that Vimsottari is the most appropriate, though he gives different

conditions for which dasha is to be applied when. I don't remember them, please

look it up. I always get goodr esult with vimsottari and most people use only

vimsottari as we always see.

 

Salam,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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Tushar

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:53 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

Dear Tanvir and members,

 

 

All of Tanvir's mails on Neeraj's chart are really

very interesting. I always feel exiting when someone

can predict correct timings as I'm highly weak in this

regards. While discussion of Neeraj's chart 1-2

confusion came in my mind. Major issue was

relationship, as Neeraj has described almost

everything happened in Sat Mahadasha. Now what this

means? First reading is that Saturn is melific for him

but he experienced best time also in Sat's period. It

means that Antardasha(s) are more important? or I

would like to put my confusion in different words that

what is the significance then of Main Mahadasha?

 

I have passed through almost similar experiences may

be more intense. I have tried to analyse my past

experiences. I have passed only one full Maha Dasha

which was also Sat's Dasha and some part of Jupiter

and some of Mercury which is also currrent. But I

could not find any pattern or relation in Antardashas

and my past. I mean I could not understand how it had

worked. Infact in my case it seems like Astotari Dasha

is more reflecting my past, little more closer. I have

also read somewhere that if Asc. degrees is between 1

to 8 or between 24 to 30 then Astotari Dasha is

applicable otherwise Vimshotari. It seems illogical

but I don'know. Is there any such rule(s)?

 

I think most of astrologer follows Vimshotari Dasha,

can anyone give some basic rule regarding relationship

of MD-AD-PD and its effect especially when any two or

all three are of different nature of planets in terms

of malefic/benific.

 

regards,

 

Tushar

 

 

 

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It's nice explaination regarding dashas. I will try to

look it again with this vision. Thanks for yor

explaination it will really help me.

 

regards,

Tushar

 

--- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> I was not predicting anything, I was finding reasons

> after they happened, which is very easy! I am weak

> at prediction too!!!!! LOL !!!

>

> The main MD's role is to create a boundary of the

> life out of which no AD / TR can go. As an example,

> if a MD is so bad about your homes and residence,

> the best AD can not make you own a house. At best,

> you can live in a house with comfort for the great

> AD, under very bad MD. Because MD doesnt let the AD

> go out of the boundary.

>

> Similarly,

>

> V bad MD + normal AD = very bad

>

> Bad MD + Good AD = temporary relief for the AD

>

> V bad MD + Bad AD = (related to residence) can make

> you pass your days even on roads

>

> On the other hand If the MD is v good about homes, a

> v bad AD can not trouble you with something

> permanent but only with temporary.

>

> Similarly AD deices the boundary of PD. good MD +

> good AD + V bad PD = only little troubles for the PD

> like the a/c of your room isnt working or the

> electricity is disturbing etc.

>

> BPHS says that Vimsottari is the most appropriate,

> though he gives different conditions for which dasha

> is to be applied when. I don't remember them, please

> look it up. I always get goodr esult with vimsottari

> and most people use only vimsottari as we always

> see.

>

> Salam,

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> Mail tanvir

> Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> Jyotish discussion

>

>

> -

> Tushar

>

> Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:53 PM

> Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

>

>

> Dear Tanvir and members,

>

>

> All of Tanvir's mails on Neeraj's chart are really

> very interesting. I always feel exiting when

> someone

> can predict correct timings as I'm highly weak in

> this

> regards. While discussion of Neeraj's chart 1-2

> confusion came in my mind. Major issue was

> relationship, as Neeraj has described almost

> everything happened in Sat Mahadasha. Now what

> this

> means? First reading is that Saturn is melific for

> him

> but he experienced best time also in Sat's period.

> It

> means that Antardasha(s) are more important? or I

> would like to put my confusion in different words

> that

> what is the significance then of Main Mahadasha?

>

> I have passed through almost similar experiences

> may

> be more intense. I have tried to analyse my past

> experiences. I have passed only one full Maha

> Dasha

> which was also Sat's Dasha and some part of

> Jupiter

> and some of Mercury which is also currrent. But I

> could not find any pattern or relation in

> Antardashas

> and my past. I mean I could not understand how it

> had

> worked. Infact in my case it seems like Astotari

> Dasha

> is more reflecting my past, little more closer. I

> have

> also read somewhere that if Asc. degrees is

> between 1

> to 8 or between 24 to 30 then Astotari Dasha is

> applicable otherwise Vimshotari. It seems

> illogical

> but I don'know. Is there any such rule(s)?

>

> I think most of astrologer follows Vimshotari

> Dasha,

> can anyone give some basic rule regarding

> relationship

> of MD-AD-PD and its effect especially when any two

> or

> all three are of different nature of planets in

> terms

> of malefic/benific.

>

> regards,

>

> Tushar

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

It was very nice post on MD-AD-PD. I never knew that,

it is really good to know this. I have a small doubt.

 

As my vimsh of Sa is running and Sa is bad for me. so

how come

 

Sa-Sa (MD-AD) was good for me. Does it cancel when

same bad-bad combines?

 

regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

 

--- Tushar <tushar_9 wrote:

> It's nice explaination regarding dashas. I will try

> to

> look it again with this vision. Thanks for yor

> explaination it will really help me.

>

> regards,

> Tushar

>

> --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> > I was not predicting anything, I was finding

> reasons

> > after they happened, which is very easy! I am weak

> > at prediction too!!!!! LOL !!!

> >

> > The main MD's role is to create a boundary of the

> > life out of which no AD / TR can go. As an

> example,

> > if a MD is so bad about your homes and residence,

> > the best AD can not make you own a house. At best,

> > you can live in a house with comfort for the great

> > AD, under very bad MD. Because MD doesnt let the

> AD

> > go out of the boundary.

> >

> > Similarly,

> >

> > V bad MD + normal AD = very bad

> >

> > Bad MD + Good AD = temporary relief for the AD

> >

> > V bad MD + Bad AD = (related to residence) can

> make

> > you pass your days even on roads

> >

> > On the other hand If the MD is v good about homes,

> a

> > v bad AD can not trouble you with something

> > permanent but only with temporary.

> >

> > Similarly AD deices the boundary of PD. good MD +

> > good AD + V bad PD = only little troubles for the

> PD

> > like the a/c of your room isnt working or the

> > electricity is disturbing etc.

> >

> > BPHS says that Vimsottari is the most appropriate,

> > though he gives different conditions for which

> dasha

> > is to be applied when. I don't remember them,

> please

> > look it up. I always get goodr esult with

> vimsottari

> > and most people use only vimsottari as we always

> > see.

> >

> > Salam,

> > Tanvir

> >

> >

> >

> > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> >

> > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > Mail tanvir

> > Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> > Jyotish site

> http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> > Jyotish discussion

> >

> >

> > -

> > Tushar

> >

> > Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:53 PM

> > Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

> >

> >

> > Dear Tanvir and members,

> >

> >

> > All of Tanvir's mails on Neeraj's chart are

> really

> > very interesting. I always feel exiting when

> > someone

> > can predict correct timings as I'm highly weak

> in

> > this

> > regards. While discussion of Neeraj's chart 1-2

> > confusion came in my mind. Major issue was

> > relationship, as Neeraj has described almost

> > everything happened in Sat Mahadasha. Now what

> > this

> > means? First reading is that Saturn is melific

> for

> > him

> > but he experienced best time also in Sat's

> period.

> > It

> > means that Antardasha(s) are more important? or

> I

> > would like to put my confusion in different

> words

> > that

> > what is the significance then of Main Mahadasha?

>

> >

> > I have passed through almost similar experiences

> > may

> > be more intense. I have tried to analyse my past

> > experiences. I have passed only one full Maha

> > Dasha

> > which was also Sat's Dasha and some part of

> > Jupiter

> > and some of Mercury which is also currrent. But

> I

> > could not find any pattern or relation in

> > Antardashas

> > and my past. I mean I could not understand how

> it

> > had

> > worked. Infact in my case it seems like Astotari

> > Dasha

> > is more reflecting my past, little more closer.

> I

> > have

> > also read somewhere that if Asc. degrees is

> > between 1

> > to 8 or between 24 to 30 then Astotari Dasha is

> > applicable otherwise Vimshotari. It seems

> > illogical

> > but I don'know. Is there any such rule(s)?

> >

> > I think most of astrologer follows Vimshotari

> > Dasha,

> > can anyone give some basic rule regarding

> > relationship

> > of MD-AD-PD and its effect especially when any

> two

> > or

> > all three are of different nature of planets in

> > terms

> > of malefic/benific.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Tushar

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

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I heard about Laghu Parasari mentioning theories like same MD+same AD =

opposite. But my experience does not show that since I saw my Merc-Merc, and my

mothers Ve-Ve and Su-Su I know very well about.

 

Sa is natural giver of sorrow and is also your 6L of sorrow, so he being

directionally weak will remove sorrow so enjoyment will be there.

 

Relationship/marriage wasnt existing so it was not under effect. May be you can

try thinking about something like bad effect about other 7th house related

significators like in journey, joint activities etc.?

 

Just a thought.

 

namaste,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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Neeraj Gupta

Friday, September 12, 2003 12:21 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

It was very nice post on MD-AD-PD. I never knew that,

it is really good to know this. I have a small doubt.

 

As my vimsh of Sa is running and Sa is bad for me. so

how come

 

Sa-Sa (MD-AD) was good for me. Does it cancel when

same bad-bad combines?

 

regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

 

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

 

No, there was no journey at that time. I was at home

peacefully, good at my studies, loved by all (friends

and teachers). It was the best time of my life till

now in all respects. No worries, no tensions.

 

There were no joint activities except for group

studies (it was also good).

 

Anyways, that was past and sweet memories will remain

forever.

 

regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

--- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> I heard about Laghu Parasari mentioning theories

> like same MD+same AD = opposite. But my experience

> does not show that since I saw my Merc-Merc, and my

> mothers Ve-Ve and Su-Su I know very well about.

>

> Sa is natural giver of sorrow and is also your 6L of

> sorrow, so he being directionally weak will remove

> sorrow so enjoyment will be there.

>

> Relationship/marriage wasnt existing so it was not

> under effect. May be you can try thinking about

> something like bad effect about other 7th house

> related significators like in journey, joint

> activities etc.?

>

> Just a thought.

>

> namaste,

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> Mail tanvir

> Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> Jyotish discussion

>

>

> -

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> Friday, September 12, 2003 12:21 PM

> Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

>

>

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> It was very nice post on MD-AD-PD. I never knew

> that,

> it is really good to know this. I have a small

> doubt.

>

> As my vimsh of Sa is running and Sa is bad for me.

> so

> how come

>

> Sa-Sa (MD-AD) was good for me. Does it cancel when

> same bad-bad combines?

>

> regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

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Tanvir,

 

I have a question about mahadasa period. Will mahadasa of a planet be good if

ADs of that planet were good?

 

I am trying to figure out how MD of Saturn in 12H will be, starting in 2005.

When I look at ADs of Saturn they are good, quit opposite of what I expected to

find. Many years ago astrologer told me Saturn Mahadasa will be very bad and I

thought there were 20 years of misery waiting for me.

 

But after sorting out the events of life and linking them to my dasa periods, I

get doubt when I look at ADs of Saturn. Most of the painfull expierences in my

life occured in ADs of other planets. And the most happiest occured in ADs of

Saturn, maybe because Saturn is 5L and in star of Venus (9L).

 

But ADs are within bounderies of other planets. Can one judge a mahadasa by

looking at ADs?

 

regards,

 

Clara

 

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Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:03 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

I was not predicting anything, I was finding reasons after they happened,

which is very easy! I am weak at prediction too!!!!! LOL !!!

 

The main MD's role is to create a boundary of the life out of which no AD / TR

can go. As an example, if a MD is so bad about your homes and residence, the

best AD can not make you own a house. At best, you can live in a house with

comfort for the great AD, under very bad MD. Because MD doesnt let the AD go out

of the boundary.

 

Similarly,

 

V bad MD + normal AD = very bad

 

Bad MD + Good AD = temporary relief for the AD

 

V bad MD + Bad AD = (related to residence) can make you pass your days even on

roads

 

On the other hand If the MD is v good about homes, a v bad AD can not trouble

you with something permanent but only with temporary.

 

Similarly AD deices the boundary of PD. good MD + good AD + V bad PD = only

little troubles for the PD like the a/c of your room isnt working or the

electricity is disturbing etc.

 

BPHS says that Vimsottari is the most appropriate, though he gives different

conditions for which dasha is to be applied when. I don't remember them, please

look it up. I always get goodr esult with vimsottari and most people use only

vimsottari as we always see.

 

Salam,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

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Tushar

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:53 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

Dear Tanvir and members,

 

 

All of Tanvir's mails on Neeraj's chart are really

very interesting. I always feel exiting when someone

can predict correct timings as I'm highly weak in this

regards. While discussion of Neeraj's chart 1-2

confusion came in my mind. Major issue was

relationship, as Neeraj has described almost

everything happened in Sat Mahadasha. Now what this

means? First reading is that Saturn is melific for him

but he experienced best time also in Sat's period. It

means that Antardasha(s) are more important? or I

would like to put my confusion in different words that

what is the significance then of Main Mahadasha?

 

I have passed through almost similar experiences may

be more intense. I have tried to analyse my past

experiences. I have passed only one full Maha Dasha

which was also Sat's Dasha and some part of Jupiter

and some of Mercury which is also currrent. But I

could not find any pattern or relation in Antardashas

and my past. I mean I could not understand how it had

worked. Infact in my case it seems like Astotari Dasha

is more reflecting my past, little more closer. I have

also read somewhere that if Asc. degrees is between 1

to 8 or between 24 to 30 then Astotari Dasha is

applicable otherwise Vimshotari. It seems illogical

but I don'know. Is there any such rule(s)?

 

I think most of astrologer follows Vimshotari Dasha,

can anyone give some basic rule regarding relationship

of MD-AD-PD and its effect especially when any two or

all three are of different nature of planets in terms

of malefic/benific.

 

regards,

 

Tushar

 

 

 

 

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I see... but could you please tell me what were the flows of events related to?

 

Namaste,

Tanvir

 

 

 

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Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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Friday, September 12, 2003 2:41 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

 

No, there was no journey at that time. I was at home

peacefully, good at my studies, loved by all (friends

and teachers). It was the best time of my life till

now in all respects. No worries, no tensions.

 

There were no joint activities except for group

studies (it was also good).

 

Anyways, that was past and sweet memories will remain

forever.

 

regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

 

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| Salam |

 

You have a Virgo asc with 5,6L Sat in 12H causing VRY (Vipreet Raja Yoga) with

own sign Sun there in...

 

Now your ques is, "Will mahadasa of a planet be good if ADs of that planet were

good?" To answer in general, yes you can expect so.

 

Important to remember some facts -

 

1. Maha dasha does not make anything happen directly but decides what kind of

things will happen. It crates boundary to good and bad, good MD doesnt let AD be

too bad and vice versa. MD is the flavour, but the actual events are made by

ADs. So bad ADs under 'pretty good' MD can be pretty bad you know...

 

2. In general if a planets AD/PD is good then you can relax about it's MD too.

And here you can some solid grounds -

 

a. 6L in 12H (causing less grief)

b. 5L in 9L's star etc etc

 

3. Notice that a bad planets AD might not be much bad for being under a good MD

same time combined TR effects... TR modify things though can not go against it

that is something important to remember (In my view).

 

4. Sat is natural grief giver and he is much disabled by being in 12H but still

it is better not to trust him for maximum protection... I am so scared of him !

Better do Saturn remedies if possible.

 

ADs are within boundaries but still you can understand what it is trying to do.

Good MD will not let a bad AD be much bad but you will see 'Something is wrong'

because you will see that this particular AD was not much good as other ADs

under the same MD. Not so...?

 

Star disposition is an imp matter as you seem to consider :-) In my view a

planet is bad in 6H because it is disposited by 6L !!!!! So in that logic stars

are finer divisions of the zodiac so you see the importance... and in that logic

if a planet owns 9H and same time 6H (Say Merc for Capricorns) then any planet

being in THAT 6TH HOUSE should be less harmful than being in other 6th house

since it is disposited by the 6th lord but the 6th lord is the 6th lord too...

this rule should work, who knows if it does or not :-)

 

Regards,

Tanvir

 

 

 

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Sunday, September 14, 2003 1:58 AM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

Tanvir,

 

I have a question about mahadasa period. Will mahadasa of a planet be good if

ADs of that planet were good?

 

I am trying to figure out how MD of Saturn in 12H will be, starting in 2005.

When I look at ADs of Saturn they are good, quit opposite of what I expected to

find. Many years ago astrologer told me Saturn Mahadasa will be very bad and I

thought there were 20 years of misery waiting for me.

 

But after sorting out the events of life and linking them to my dasa periods,

I get doubt when I look at ADs of Saturn. Most of the painfull expierences in my

life occured in ADs of other planets. And the most happiest occured in ADs of

Saturn, maybe because Saturn is 5L and in star of Venus (9L).

 

But ADs are within bounderies of other planets. Can one judge a mahadasa by

looking at ADs?

 

regards,

 

Clara

 

 

 

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Sorry, but I couldn't understand exactly what you

asked. However will try

 

My Sat-Sat started in Feb, 1997 and I took admission

in my engineering in July 96. So my first semester was

finished and I was at ease with studies, as the basics

have been cleared.

 

There had been many friends or say classmates and I

was very happy in terms of everything. Yes no

relationship was there, but a general understanding

betweeng group (friends) was good.

 

We (all group of friends) used to go out for small get

togethers. Also it was the time, when I slowly begin

to develop a liking for my intended, though slowly and

gradually.

 

Also I did my completed my another graduation in this

time (B.com finished in 1998). This I did separately

from DU as a correspondence course. So was a good time

for studies, relationships (considering friends,

family, as no other existed at that time).

 

About journeys, I had gone out with family to

Jagannath puri (so a religious trip) and it was a good

one. Overall good time was there. yes hard work was

there in studies, but well rewarded in terms of

studies.

 

If there is anything particular, Kindly clarify, as I

didn't get your statement properly.

 

warm regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

--- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> I see... but could you please tell me what were the

> flows of events related to?

>

> Namaste,

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

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>

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> -

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>

> Friday, September 12, 2003 2:41 PM

> Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

>

>

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Dear Tanvir,

>

>

> No, there was no journey at that time. I was at

> home

> peacefully, good at my studies, loved by all

> (friends

> and teachers). It was the best time of my life

> till

> now in all respects. No worries, no tensions.

>

> There were no joint activities except for group

> studies (it was also good).

>

> Anyways, that was past and sweet memories will

> remain

> forever.

>

> regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

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Dear Tanvir,

 

Thanks for the explanation. This Vipreet RAja Yoga is new to me.

 

I did not mean to say that "all" was good in ADs of Saturn, there were Saturnian

events as well of course, so I am well aware of his nature.

 

But I did not expect to find there were more happy events in ADs or PDs of

Saturn, than in those of other planets. But somehow problems, that did rise in

ADs previous to Saturn AD are solved when Saturn AD starts running.

 

Same for now. I am running Sa PD.

In Ju-Ra-Ra problems with my son went out of control. So much drugs, quit his

job, created hugh debt. It was terrible time.

In Ju-Ra-Ju ex-husband died, leaving behind 3 fatherless children, also very painful time.

Ju-Ra-Sa is much better time, we laugh a lot together. My son uses less drugs,

worked hard to pay off all of his debt, decided to go back to school to get a

diploma (he quit school at age 15, school is very difficult for him, because he

has concentration problems and he cannot read text books).

My 29 year old son who has been single always, never going out or dating, out of

nowhere he now has loved one.

And as for myself, I received a pretty large sum of money, some kind of widow

insurance money, see ... I would never expect to gain money with Saturn as

malefic planet in 12th house of debts.

 

But now I understand much better :-))

 

You mention I should do remedies. I thought I did remedy. I bought the

prescribed blue sapphire and started wearing it from 10-2-2001.

 

So I find remedies very confusing ....

 

kind regards,

 

Clara

 

-

Tanvir

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Sunday, September 14, 2003 2:17 AM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

| Salam |You have a Virgo asc with 5,6L Sat in 12H causing VRY (Vipreet Raja

Yoga) with own sign Sun there in...Now your ques is, "Will mahadasa of a planet

be good if ADs of that planet were good?" To answer in general, yes you can

expect so.Important to remember some facts -1. Maha dasha does not make

anything happen directly but decides what kind of things will happen. It crates

boundary to good and bad, good MD doesnt let AD be too bad and vice versa. MD is

the flavour, but the actual events are made by ADs. So bad ADs under 'pretty

good' MD can be pretty bad you know...2. In general if a planets AD/PD is good

then you can relax about it's MD too. And here you can some solid grounds - a.

6L in 12H (causing less grief)b. 5L in 9L's star etc etc3. Notice that a bad

planets AD might not be much bad for being under a good MD same time combined

TR effects... TR modify things though can not go against it that is something

important to remember (In my view).4. Sat is natural grief giver and he is much

disabled by being in 12H but still it is better not to trust him for maximum

protection... I am so scared of him ! Better do Saturn remedies if possible.ADs

are within boundaries but still you can understand what it is trying to do. Good

MD will not let a bad AD be much bad but you will see 'Something is wrong'

because you will see that this particular AD was not much good as other ADs

under the same MD. Not so...?Star disposition is an imp matter as you seem to

consider :-) In my view a planet is bad in 6H because it is disposited by 6L

!!!!! So in that logic stars are finer divisions of the zodiac so you see the

importance... and in that logic if a planet owns 9H and same time 6H (Say Merc

for Capricorns) then any planet being in THAT 6TH HOUSE should be less harmful

than being in other 6th house since it is disposited by the 6th lord but the

6th lord is the 6th lord too... this rule should work, who knows if it does or

not :-)Regards,TanvirWhat can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is

forever mine.Tanvir ChowdhuryMail tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comPersonal site

http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirJyotish site

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Clara Sunday, September

14, 2003 1:58 AM Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta Tanvir, I have

a question about mahadasa period. Will mahadasa of a planet be good if ADs of

that planet were good? I am trying to figure out how MD of Saturn in 12H will

be, starting in 2005. When I look at ADs of Saturn they are good, quit opposite

of what I expected to find. Many years ago astrologer told me Saturn Mahadasa

will be very bad and I thought there were 20 years of misery waiting for me.

But after sorting out the events of life and linking them to my dasa periods, I

get doubt when I look at ADs of Saturn. Most of the painfull expierences in my

life occured in ADs of other planets. And the most happiest occured in ADs of

Saturn, maybe because Saturn is 5L and in star of Venus (9L). But ADs are

within bounderies of other planets. Can one judge a mahadasa by looking at ADs?

regards, Clara

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Hm... Rahu is solely responsible for getting debt for son (ju-rahu-rahu) sat is

the 5th lord (children) is with 12th lord in 12H (loss) aspecting the house of

debt (6th). and rahu is in star of sat...

 

but sat's itself periods are good/better. is it for sat aspecting own 6th house,

and gives better abt debts... or sat is in 9L star? may be both. but if sat is

in 9th star, and is good in own periods, then how come u get debt from son since

son is 5th so sat is responsible, but he gives better in his periods...

confusing... is star dispostion playing here, since sat is in 9L's star.

 

how was ur sun and ve periods in the regards of debts and children and also

other matters? ve is fallen and in star of moon/mars (moon might b) and moon

weak in 5th, did ve periods give u prob abt kids etc...

 

regards

tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Mail tanvir

Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

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Clara

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:35 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Thanks for the explanation. This Vipreet RAja Yoga is new to me.

 

I did not mean to say that "all" was good in ADs of Saturn, there were

Saturnian events as well of course, so I am well aware of his nature.

 

But I did not expect to find there were more happy events in ADs or PDs of

Saturn, than in those of other planets. But somehow problems, that did rise in

ADs previous to Saturn AD are solved when Saturn AD starts running.

 

Same for now. I am running Sa PD.

In Ju-Ra-Ra problems with my son went out of control. So much drugs, quit his

job, created hugh debt. It was terrible time.

In Ju-Ra-Ju ex-husband died, leaving behind 3 fatherless children, also very

painful time.

Ju-Ra-Sa is much better time, we laugh a lot together. My son uses less drugs,

worked hard to pay off all of his debt, decided to go back to school to get a

diploma (he quit school at age 15, school is very difficult for him, because he

has concentration problems and he cannot read text books).

My 29 year old son who has been single always, never going out or dating, out

of nowhere he now has loved one.

And as for myself, I received a pretty large sum of money, some kind of widow

insurance money, see ... I would never expect to gain money with Saturn as

malefic planet in 12th house of debts.

 

But now I understand much better :-))

 

You mention I should do remedies. I thought I did remedy. I bought the

prescribed blue sapphire and started wearing it from 10-2-2001.

 

So I find remedies very confusing ....

 

kind regards,

 

Clara

 

 

 

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nb - in ju-ra-ra, (2 level of ra) u got debts from son. and son got debts. now

rahu is in 7th and in no way debt related to son can b explained, unless we see

rahu is in sat's star who is 5L in 12H with 12L. so its clear that sat is

responsible. but sat itself's priod is good and that i think is for being in ve

star and not for aspecting the 6H i guess...

 

how was mars period (ju-ma, and other mars periods) and sun, ve periods abt

children and debts etc.?

 

regards

tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Mail tanvir

Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

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Tanvir

Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:15 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

Hm... Rahu is solely responsible for getting debt for son (ju-rahu-rahu) sat

is the 5th lord (children) is with 12th lord in 12H (loss) aspecting the house

of debt (6th). and rahu is in star of sat...

 

but sat's itself periods are good/better. is it for sat aspecting own 6th

house, and gives better abt debts... or sat is in 9L star? may be both. but if

sat is in 9th star, and is good in own periods, then how come u get debt from

son since son is 5th so sat is responsible, but he gives better in his

periods... confusing... is star dispostion playing here, since sat is in 9L's

star.

 

how was ur sun and ve periods in the regards of debts and children and also

other matters? ve is fallen and in star of moon/mars (moon might b) and moon

weak in 5th, did ve periods give u prob abt kids etc...

 

regards

tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Mail tanvir

Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

Jyotish discussion

 

-

Clara

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:35 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Thanks for the explanation. This Vipreet RAja Yoga is new to me.

 

I did not mean to say that "all" was good in ADs of Saturn, there were

Saturnian events as well of course, so I am well aware of his nature.

 

But I did not expect to find there were more happy events in ADs or PDs of

Saturn, than in those of other planets. But somehow problems, that did rise in

ADs previous to Saturn AD are solved when Saturn AD starts running.

 

Same for now. I am running Sa PD.

In Ju-Ra-Ra problems with my son went out of control. So much drugs, quit

his job, created hugh debt. It was terrible time.

In Ju-Ra-Ju ex-husband died, leaving behind 3 fatherless children, also very

painful time.

Ju-Ra-Sa is much better time, we laugh a lot together. My son uses less

drugs, worked hard to pay off all of his debt, decided to go back to school to

get a diploma (he quit school at age 15, school is very difficult for him,

because he has concentration problems and he cannot read text books).

My 29 year old son who has been single always, never going out or dating,

out of nowhere he now has loved one.

And as for myself, I received a pretty large sum of money, some kind of

widow insurance money, see ... I would never expect to gain money with Saturn as

malefic planet in 12th house of debts.

 

But now I understand much better :-))

 

You mention I should do remedies. I thought I did remedy. I bought the

prescribed blue sapphire and started wearing it from 10-2-2001.

 

So I find remedies very confusing ....

 

kind regards,

 

Clara

 

 

 

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Tanvir,

Rahu is in Mercury's star, not in Saturn's. Star dispositorship is very subtle

matter, I can see it work from my own chart, but I need lot more time to see how

it works in other charts.

 

As for Rahu, Rahu is sign aspecting Jupiter, who is significator for children,

and Jupiter is sign aspecting Rahu. Can it work this way?

 

Moon ADs are the worst.

 

Ketu ADs give separation.

 

debilitated Mars ADs can give healthproblems.

 

 

 

Further more, I am always living from one problem with children to the next

problem with children. I cannot pin it down to specific planets, but it seems to

show debilitated Venus as the champion for giving problems with children. Now

why should that be so? Venus is in 1st house, not aspecting 5H or 5L

 

 

 

Debts: I never had any debts in my whole life for myself, only 2 times had debt

from children, but it did not bring me into financial problems. It was in

Ju-Me-Me and in Ju-Ra-Ra.

You say 6H is debt. 6H from 5H is 10H, ruled by Mercury???? Does that make

sense?

 

regards,

 

Clara

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Tanvir

Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:22 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

nb - in ju-ra-ra, (2 level of ra) u got debts from son. and son got debts. now

rahu is in 7th and in no way debt related to son can b explained, unless we see

rahu is in sat's star who is 5L in 12H with 12L. so its clear that sat is

responsible. but sat itself's priod is good and that i think is for being in ve

star and not for aspecting the 6H i guess...

 

how was mars period (ju-ma, and other mars periods) and sun, ve periods abt

children and debts etc.?

 

regards

tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Mail tanvir

Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

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Tanvir

Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:15 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

Hm... Rahu is solely responsible for getting debt for son (ju-rahu-rahu) sat

is the 5th lord (children) is with 12th lord in 12H (loss) aspecting the house

of debt (6th). and rahu is in star of sat...

 

but sat's itself periods are good/better. is it for sat aspecting own 6th

house, and gives better abt debts... or sat is in 9L star? may be both. but if

sat is in 9th star, and is good in own periods, then how come u get debt from

son since son is 5th so sat is responsible, but he gives better in his

periods... confusing... is star dispostion playing here, since sat is in 9L's

star.

 

how was ur sun and ve periods in the regards of debts and children and also

other matters? ve is fallen and in star of moon/mars (moon might b) and moon

weak in 5th, did ve periods give u prob abt kids etc...

 

regards

tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Mail tanvir

Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

Jyotish discussion

 

-

Clara

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:35 PM

Re: Chart of Mr. Neeraj Gupta

 

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

Thanks for the explanation. This Vipreet RAja Yoga is new to me.

 

I did not mean to say that "all" was good in ADs of Saturn, there were

Saturnian events as well of course, so I am well aware of his nature.

 

But I did not expect to find there were more happy events in ADs or PDs of

Saturn, than in those of other planets. But somehow problems, that did rise in

ADs previous to Saturn AD are solved when Saturn AD starts running.

 

Same for now. I am running Sa PD.

In Ju-Ra-Ra problems with my son went out of control. So much drugs, quit

his job, created hugh debt. It was terrible time.

In Ju-Ra-Ju ex-husband died, leaving behind 3 fatherless children, also

very painful time.

Ju-Ra-Sa is much better time, we laugh a lot together. My son uses less

drugs, worked hard to pay off all of his debt, decided to go back to school to

get a diploma (he quit school at age 15, school is very difficult for him,

because he has concentration problems and he cannot read text books).

My 29 year old son who has been single always, never going out or dating,

out of nowhere he now has loved one.

And as for myself, I received a pretty large sum of money, some kind of

widow insurance money, see ... I would never expect to gain money with Saturn as

malefic planet in 12th house of debts.

 

But now I understand much better :-))

 

You mention I should do remedies. I thought I did remedy. I bought the

prescribed blue sapphire and started wearing it from 10-2-2001.

 

So I find remedies very confusing ....

 

kind regards,

 

Clara

 

 

 

 

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