JR, from Mark, 9/1 re.... New Slant....finding Jyotish Solutions...

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends:

 

I wanted to start a slightly different line of Discussions...

 

 

We spend most of our time & questions here, answering this and that question

which of course I find very interesting....

and important...

 

But, I do believe that this 'line of discussions', only represents truely,

1/2 of Important

Jyotish...

 

 

The 'other' most important area of Jyotish is 'Remedial Measures'...

and I would like to start a New line of Discussions, here, related

more exclusively to...those....

 

Though this Jyotish Group,

Jyotish Remedys...seems to focus on solutions more than most...

still...I think there would be some good advantage

by slightly focusing on Solutions!

 

 

 

Okay..

 

We're looking at our lives, and Our charts do fit us...

they do fit the problems and circumstances we're going through...

 

So, what can we do about it?

 

What can be recomended to 'mitigate' any uncomfortable situations,

either in our Charts, Dasas or Transits...?

 

So, I'd like to start the ball, rolling regarding....

 

oh, let's say the Moon...

 

Let's say our Moon is aggravated in our chart,

it's small!

or with Saturn, Mars, Rahu or Ketu..

 

And / or we're going through a Moon dasa period...

or

Sadi Sat....even...

 

any or combination of these above situations could be making us feel...

upset, worried, lonely, anxious...or just crazy!

 

So, my question is what can we do about it?

 

I'll give you an example of one of my students...

 

She is a wonderful lady, with a lot of heart, love and compassion inside of

her...

3 children, but separated from them, due to divorce from former husband

and father of her children....

We'll call her....Victoria....

 

She's got a Scorpio Rising with lst house lord, Mars.... in the 8th....

and

her main challenge I wanted to talk about is...

 

She's got Saturn & Sun & Moon, all together in the 9th House,

in Cancer...

 

What can we recomend to her...regarding her complaints...

 

of lot's of grief, and sadness, within!

 

 

Thank you all for your contributions...

 

And I look forward to our 'finding' Solutions!

 

 

Jai Guru

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

dear tanvir

i agree with u ...it is not exaltation or delibation

that matters...we have to judge the natal chart in

totality...even a delibated planet with neech bhanga

or otherwise can give good results if it is a malefic

in a dustha shana...what do u say?

 

 

--- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> Hello Ramani Jee,

>

> Well I would like to call it discussion than

> arguments. Arguments sound like boxing matches,

> discussion is what Jyotish scholars should do :-)

>

> When a 6th lord is transitting over natal dusthana,

> the house where the natal 6th lord is placed can

> suffer. Or any significations of 6th house might

> suffer, say indigestion, trouble from enemies etc.

> The thing is that, a coin has only two sides, but a

> planetary position has so many sides! Most basic

> things of our lives can be explained by the 9

> planets and 12 houses, they interact among themelves

> in so many ways.

>

> Vipreet Raja Yoga is good for enjoyment and

> prosperity in general, but the dusthana lord being

> little afflicted can be destroyed in it's own

> significations since it is already in a dusthana.

>

> Panch Maha Purush. An exalted/own sign mars in asc

> can make the native a strict dictator, esp if

> aspected by Sun. A sun this way can make the native

> too much dominating and egoistic. A great person can

> have faults, too.

>

> I think it is better not to memorize the yogas but

> try tounderstand the facts behind them. Kendras are

> the Vishnu Sthanas, the sustaining houses. An

> exalted/own sign planet in a kendra shows the way

> native sustains in this earth, in simple words it

> shows the path s/he will succeed in. Being

> exalted/own sign, the planet is very strong in it's

> promisses and will make the native improve in it's

> own way, or have the planet's qualities in them etc.

>

> Right now I can remember a female native chart with

> exalted Saturn (Asc lord) + Own sign Ve in 10th.

> Double Maha Purush, she lacks in simple common sense

> and there is no extra ordinary qualification she

> has, not even 'pretty good', in her circle her

> 'sillyness' (in gentle language) is well known and

> her parents and friends worry about her too much for

> all these.

>

> None of her sat or ve periods have been really

> 'good' or happy. But yes they rises her status and

> career. (10th house)

>

> I would not like an own sign / exalted saturn, or

> Mars in lagna. Sat will make the native fond of

> loneliness, being sad etc., and even being exalted,

> Sat will have some probs inside it since it is

> directionally weak in asc. But yes he is the Yoga

> Karaka and will give success. But happiness also

> matters.

>

> By the way I have both Saturn and Mars exalted, Sat

> (5,6L) exalted in 2nd and Mars (3,8L) exalted in

> 5th. What they are doing in my life, I am going to

> write them very details in the "Astrological

> Biography" of myself I am writing little by little.

> It has been already 42 KBs - a large one.

>

> Salam,

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> Mail tanvir

> Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> Jyotish discussion

>

>

> -

> Ramani Alwar

>

> Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:00 AM

> IS SADE SATTI BENEFIC FOR KUMBH

> LAGN?

>

>

> Hello,

> Tanvir jee

> I liked the arguements very much. There is always

> arguements whenever I learnt about Sade Sathe. First

> of all, For a native to be happy. Dasa, transit or

> faith in God and continous prayer can only help.

> More arguements, For the Leo and Cancer

> ascendants, Saturn becomes 6th and 8th lord

> respectively if so when Saturn reaches the 12th

> house by transit, he should give Viprit Raja Yoga

> irrespective of his placement in the natal and Amsa

> chart does he give usually? This should be checked

> with analysis.

> Many times I found Saturn if aspected by benefics,

> lord of the fifth or ninth house lords he becomes

> benefic to the native as per Chandra Kaviyam.

> Moreover we should consider the strength of Saturn

> in the Amsa chart (Navamsa) as well.

> Exalted malefics such as Mars and Saturn too give

> Pancha Maha Purusha Yogas!!!

> Whatever I have given previously are some points

> for consideration. As you said the relationship

> between the ascendant and the Moon for Saturn also

> should be taken into consideration. Also the

> strength of Saturn in the natal and Navamsa chart.

> Dasa of the native during Sade sathe (benefic dasa

> reduces the effect of Sade sathe).

> Moreover if a native suffers to rescue the native

> from sufferings, it is also better to consult about

> the Rahu and Ketu in the natal chart. Because

> Jaimuni indicates these Karmic planets can nullifiy

> the good effects of good planets, as well nullify

> the bad effects of bad effects. Becuase they watched

> the native for Janmas together than the astrologer.

>

> About Agasthiya Nadi, he mentions in general. We

> astrologers can study well and tell the native

> correctly by analysing. Your points like Mercury in

> Pisces, Venus in Virgo and Sun in Libra are

> debilitated I agreed. So This point may not be for

> Sade sathe since those houses are the houses of Good

> Planets. But I consider in Kuru Shetra any planet

> can be benefic, since he is a benevolent planet in

> astrology.

> In my view it is better to consider Navamsa, Dasa

> and the Transit together with whatever I said.

> Saturn Dasa is different than the Sade Sathe. But

> as the Lord of 6th house both in transit and in Dasa

> he may render some illness no doubt, it can be

> rectified with the help of astrologers and doctor

> that can be rectified provided if the native pious

> to God.

> More arguements are welcome.

> With warm regards

> Yours sincerely

> Ramani.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello, greetings.

 

For separation from children and the divorce problem, surely we need to see the

5th and 7th houses. Saturn, Ketu are separative and any neuter planets effect on

5th house/lord will give problems.

 

It is hard to say without seeing the chart.

 

Since her 9th lord is in 9th house, I would tell her to wear a Pearl as soon as

possible! Also a yellow sapphire would help.

 

PS. I am sorry to say that I am little busy now so would take little time to

start participating on the list again, may be tomorrow or the next day of

tomorrow.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Mail tanvir

Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

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Jyotish discussion

 

-

Mark Kincaid

Monday, September 01, 2003 8:37 PM

JR, from Mark, 9/1 re.... New Slant....finding Jyotish

Solutions...

 

 

Dear Friends:

 

I wanted to start a slightly different line of Discussions...

 

 

We spend most of our time & questions here, answering this and that question

which of course I find very interesting....

and important...

 

But, I do believe that this 'line of discussions', only represents truely,

1/2 of Important

Jyotish...

 

 

The 'other' most important area of Jyotish is 'Remedial Measures'...

and I would like to start a New line of Discussions, here, related

more exclusively to...those....

 

Though this Jyotish Group,

Jyotish Remedys...seems to focus on solutions more than most...

still...I think there would be some good advantage

by slightly focusing on Solutions!

 

 

 

Okay..

 

We're looking at our lives, and Our charts do fit us...

they do fit the problems and circumstances we're going through...

 

So, what can we do about it?

 

What can be recomended to 'mitigate' any uncomfortable situations,

either in our Charts, Dasas or Transits...?

 

So, I'd like to start the ball, rolling regarding....

 

oh, let's say the Moon...

 

Let's say our Moon is aggravated in our chart,

it's small!

or with Saturn, Mars, Rahu or Ketu..

 

And / or we're going through a Moon dasa period...

or

Sadi Sat....even...

 

any or combination of these above situations could be making us feel...

upset, worried, lonely, anxious...or just crazy!

 

So, my question is what can we do about it?

 

I'll give you an example of one of my students...

 

She is a wonderful lady, with a lot of heart, love and compassion inside of

her...

3 children, but separated from them, due to divorce from former husband

and father of her children....

We'll call her....Victoria....

 

She's got a Scorpio Rising with lst house lord, Mars.... in the 8th....

and

her main challenge I wanted to talk about is...

 

She's got Saturn & Sun & Moon, all together in the 9th House,

in Cancer...

 

What can we recomend to her...regarding her complaints...

 

of lot's of grief, and sadness, within!

 

 

Thank you all for your contributions...

 

And I look forward to our 'finding' Solutions!

 

 

Jai Guru

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid