Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Dear All, This is the chart of my friend who has constant vivid dreams. It seems that Me in 12 th could be the cause of this. She also looses herself in a pensive mood suddenly while conversing. Many times in a group I have heard friends gossip about her without her realizing. She is a pretty woman but because of this nature she cannot find any boyfriend. Her last and first relationship lasted for a year in 2000. Question is: 1. How can she overcome this habit of daydreaming? Is there any Vedic remedy? Does she have to recite any Mantras and propitiate her Ishta Deva? 2. Is she likely to find a boyfriend in the near future and get married? If so when this can happen. Can wearing a yellow sapphire hasten this period? 3. Will she reside in her home country or migrate soon for better pastures. 4. Is the Rahu/Sat period good for her career and love life? Thanks in advance for the Gurus who will respond. I wish all the best in all ventures. Jen March 9, 1973 Time: 9:26:00 am Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 77 W 03' 00", 12 S 03' 00" Lagna 12 Ar 28' 12.72" Aswi 4 Ar Cn Sun - AK 25 Aq 24' 18.83" PBha 2 Aq Ta Moon - AmK 25 Ar 13' 06.60" Bhar 4 Ar Sc Mars - BK 24 Sg 18' 14.75" PSha 4 Sg Sc Mercury ® - DK 3 Pi 15' 09.07" PBha 4 Pi Cn Jupiter - GK 9 Cp 26' 03.28" USha 4 Cp Pi Venus - PiK 17 Aq 31' 51.61" Sata 4 Aq Pi Saturn - MK 20 Ta 41' 13.48" Rohi 4 Ta Cn Rahu - PK 20 Sg 11' 09.81" PSha 3 Sg Li Ketu 20 Ge 11' 09.81" Puna 1 Ge Ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 | Greetings | Thanks for the data, it was nicely mentioned - it generally encourages me to have a look at the chart since it allows me to do so in very less time :-) Yes to my mind the mercury in 12th is a fact. Merc in 12th isnt a good matter uness it is v strong. Here rather it is weak for being fallen. Beinf retro some strength adds to it but to my mind getting strength from retro isnt a 'trusted' strength' always. Mercury in 12th gives different problems to nature and mind. I have seen that a native with merc in 12th will suffer from problem in speech. It does not always means stammering - it can come any way. I have seen that merc in 12th makes native unale to express what s/he means, wants to say. S/he can not speak or explain himself properly, can not express what he tries to mean or tell. He uses wrong and inappropriate words and languages and gives a wrong idea to what he tries to mean. On the other hand sometimes s/he becomes totally silent when a single sentence/explanation by him can resolve everything. He is totally unable to express himself and can not explain any fact to anyone by his speech. It all means the problem with communication. Since merc also rules speech, the communication prob comes primely over speech etc. So is the native like this... please confirm... (1) On the other hand here the native also vivid dreams. Does that mean day-dreaming? (2) dreams etc is seen by 12th where she has fallen mercury we already discussed. On the other hand 5th house (mind) will play a vital role here since she is often absent minded. This chart is a wonderful example of star disposition effects. When we see the 5th lord in 11th, with no such majot damage, we can not understand why 5th house is troubled. But when we see that the 5th lord is placed in the star of Jupiter who is fallen and in 12th from 5th lord itself, it all becomes very clear... without seeing the star it is in, would we ever be able to understand that the 5th lord is troubled? It does nto look as bad as in practical it is... Fallen mercury in 12th while 12th lord is also in fall totally destroys the 12th house... I would like to also ans that does she have problem with sleeping, or problem with feet? (3,4) And does she often loses things like she can not remember where she kept something or loses important things in any other ways? (5) Yes Yellow Sapph should help really, it is needed. On the other hand ruby/any sun gemstone is also very much needed since it is the 5th lord and there is a v good chance since the 5th lord aspects the 5th house itself. She can also listen to the puranic / gayatri mantras of Jupiter and Sun. I will try to answer other questions after I get some feedback as requested. I think Su periods will make things better and Merc will make worse. How's the jupiter periods in this regard any way? Best wishes, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir ChowdhuryMail tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comPersonal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirJyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastroJyotish discussion - illijenny Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:00 PM Vivid dreaming Dear All,This is the chart of my friend who has constant vivid dreams. It seems that Me in 12 th could be the cause of this. She also looses herself in a pensive mood suddenly while conversing. Many times in a group I have heard friends gossip about her without her realizing. She is a pretty woman but because of this nature she cannot find any boyfriend. Her last and first relationship lasted for a year in 2000.Question is:1. How can she overcome this habit of daydreaming? Is there any Vedic remedy? Does she have to recite any Mantras and propitiate her Ishta Deva?2. Is she likely to find a boyfriend in the near future and get married? If so when this can happen. Can wearing a yellow sapphire hasten this period?3. Will she reside in her home country or migrate soon for better pastures.4. Is the Rahu/Sat period good for her career and love life?Thanks in advance for the Gurus who will respond. I wish all the best in all ventures.JenMarch 9, 1973Time: 9:26:00 amTime Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 77 W 03' 00", 12 S 03' 00"Lagna 12 Ar 28' 12.72" Aswi 4 Ar CnSun - AK 25 Aq 24' 18.83" PBha 2 Aq TaMoon - AmK 25 Ar 13' 06.60" Bhar 4 Ar ScMars - BK 24 Sg 18' 14.75" PSha 4 Sg ScMercury ® - DK 3 Pi 15' 09.07" PBha 4 Pi CnJupiter - GK 9 Cp 26' 03.28" USha 4 Cp PiVenus - PiK 17 Aq 31' 51.61" Sata 4 Aq PiSaturn - MK 20 Ta 41' 13.48" Rohi 4 Ta CnRahu - PK 20 Sg 11' 09.81" PSha 3 Sg LiKetu 20 Ge 11' 09.81" Puna 1 Ge Ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 Thanks you very much for your analysis Tanvir and complement too. You are a great person. Here are some responses to your query: 1.Use of inappropriate words and communicate a wrong idea to what is actually meant or any other communication problem The native has serious problem with organizing words. For example instead of saying, "apply butter on bread" she will say "apply bread on butter". Otherwise she does not stammer, is fluent and bilingual. 2.Problems with sleeping? None 3.Problem with feet? None 4.Loose things and can't remember where it is lost? No 5.Life between 23/1/2001 to 18/6/2003 (Jupiter period) Generally not very happy. Few significant events. 6.Changes after 18/6/2003 (Saturn period) Many substantial changes. Some good some bad. 7.Daydream? Constantly thinking of events leading to absent mindedness. And several vivid dreams during night sleep. These dreams can be remembered the next morning Jen , "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote: > | Greetings | > > Thanks for the data, it was nicely mentioned - it generally encourages me to have a look at the chart since it allows me to do so in very less time :-) > > Yes to my mind the mercury in 12th is a fact. Merc in 12th isnt a good matter uness it is v strong. Here rather it is weak for being fallen. Beinf retro some strength adds to it but to my mind getting strength from retro isnt a 'trusted' strength' always. > > Mercury in 12th gives different problems to nature and mind. I have seen that a native with merc in 12th will suffer from problem in speech. It does not always means stammering - it can come any way. I have seen that merc in 12th makes native unale to express what s/he means, wants to say. S/he can not speak or explain himself properly, can not express what he tries to mean or tell. He uses wrong and inappropriate words and languages and gives a wrong idea to what he tries to mean. On the other hand sometimes s/he becomes totally silent when a single sentence/explanation by him can resolve everything. He is totally unable to express himself and can not explain any fact to anyone by his speech. It all means the problem with communication. Since merc also rules speech, the communication prob comes primely over speech etc. > > So is the native like this... please confirm... (1) > > On the other hand here the native also vivid dreams. Does that mean day-dreaming? (2) dreams etc is seen by 12th where she has fallen mercury we already discussed. > > On the other hand 5th house (mind) will play a vital role here since she is often absent minded. This chart is a wonderful example of star disposition effects. When we see the 5th lord in 11th, with no such majot damage, we can not understand why 5th house is troubled. But when we see that the 5th lord is placed in the star of Jupiter who is fallen and in 12th from 5th lord itself, it all becomes very clear... without seeing the star it is in, would we ever be able to understand that the 5th lord is troubled? It does nto look as bad as in practical it is... > > Fallen mercury in 12th while 12th lord is also in fall totally destroys the 12th house... > > I would like to also ans that does she have problem with sleeping, or problem with feet? (3,4) And does she often loses things like she can not remember where she kept something or loses important things in any other ways? (5) > > Yes Yellow Sapph should help really, it is needed. On the other hand ruby/any sun gemstone is also very much needed since it is the 5th lord and there is a v good chance since the 5th lord aspects the 5th house itself. She can also listen to the puranic / gayatri mantras of Jupiter and Sun. > > I will try to answer other questions after I get some feedback as requested. I think Su periods will make things better and Merc will make worse. How's the jupiter periods in this regard any way? > > Best wishes, > Tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > Mail tanvir@s... > Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > Jyotish discussion > > - > illijenny > > Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:00 PM > Vivid dreaming > > > Dear All, > > This is the chart of my friend who has constant vivid dreams. It > seems that Me in 12 th could be the cause of this. She also looses > herself in a pensive mood suddenly while conversing. Many times in a > group I have heard friends gossip about her without her realizing. > She is a pretty woman but because of this nature she cannot find any > boyfriend. Her last and first relationship lasted for a year in 2000. > > Question is: > 1. How can she overcome this habit of daydreaming? Is there any > Vedic remedy? Does she have to recite any Mantras and propitiate her > Ishta Deva? > 2. Is she likely to find a boyfriend in the near future and get > married? If so when this can happen. Can wearing a yellow sapphire > hasten this period? > 3. Will she reside in her home country or migrate soon for > better pastures. > 4. Is the Rahu/Sat period good for her career and love life? > > Thanks in advance for the Gurus who will respond. I wish all the best > in all ventures. > > Jen > > > March 9, 1973 > Time: 9:26:00 am > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 77 W 03' 00", 12 S 03' 00" > Lagna 12 Ar 28' 12.72" Aswi 4 Ar Cn > Sun - AK 25 Aq 24' 18.83" PBha 2 Aq Ta > Moon - AmK 25 Ar 13' 06.60" Bhar 4 Ar Sc > Mars - BK 24 Sg 18' 14.75" PSha 4 Sg Sc > Mercury ® - DK 3 Pi 15' 09.07" PBha 4 Pi Cn > Jupiter - GK 9 Cp 26' 03.28" USha 4 Cp Pi > Venus - PiK 17 Aq 31' 51.61" Sata 4 Aq Pi > Saturn - MK 20 Ta 41' 13.48" Rohi 4 Ta Cn > Rahu - PK 20 Sg 11' 09.81" PSha 3 Sg Li > Ketu 20 Ge 11' 09.81" Puna 1 Ge Ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Sorry to bother you...I was waiting for your response. Thanks in advance anyway. Jen , "illijenny" <illijenny> wrote: > Thanks you very much for your analysis Tanvir and complement too. You > are a great person. > > Here are some responses to your query: > > 1.Use of inappropriate words and communicate a wrong idea to what is > actually meant or any other communication problem > > The native has serious problem with organizing words. For example > instead of saying, "apply butter on bread" she will say "apply bread > on butter". Otherwise she does not stammer, is fluent and bilingual. > > 2.Problems with sleeping? > > None > > 3.Problem with feet? > > None > > 4.Loose things and can't remember where it is lost? > > No > > 5.Life between 23/1/2001 to 18/6/2003 (Jupiter period) > > Generally not very happy. Few significant events. > > 6.Changes after 18/6/2003 (Saturn period) > > Many substantial changes. Some good some bad. > > 7.Daydream? > > Constantly thinking of events leading to absent mindedness. And > several vivid dreams during night sleep. These dreams can be > remembered the next morning > > Jen > > , "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote: > > | Greetings | > > > > Thanks for the data, it was nicely mentioned - it generally > encourages me to have a look at the chart since it allows me to do so > in very less time :-) > > > > Yes to my mind the mercury in 12th is a fact. Merc in 12th isnt a > good matter uness it is v strong. Here rather it is weak for being > fallen. Beinf retro some strength adds to it but to my mind getting > strength from retro isnt a 'trusted' strength' always. > > > > Mercury in 12th gives different problems to nature and mind. I have > seen that a native with merc in 12th will suffer from problem in > speech. It does not always means stammering - it can come any way. I > have seen that merc in 12th makes native unale to express what s/he > means, wants to say. S/he can not speak or explain himself properly, > can not express what he tries to mean or tell. He uses wrong and > inappropriate words and languages and gives a wrong idea to what he > tries to mean. On the other hand sometimes s/he becomes totally > silent when a single sentence/explanation by him can resolve > everything. He is totally unable to express himself and can not > explain any fact to anyone by his speech. It all means the problem > with communication. Since merc also rules speech, the communication > prob comes primely over speech etc. > > > > So is the native like this... please confirm... (1) > > > > On the other hand here the native also vivid dreams. Does that mean > day-dreaming? (2) dreams etc is seen by 12th where she has fallen > mercury we already discussed. > > > > On the other hand 5th house (mind) will play a vital role here > since she is often absent minded. This chart is a wonderful example > of star disposition effects. When we see the 5th lord in 11th, with > no such majot damage, we can not understand why 5th house is > troubled. But when we see that the 5th lord is placed in the star of > Jupiter who is fallen and in 12th from 5th lord itself, it all > becomes very clear... without seeing the star it is in, would we ever > be able to understand that the 5th lord is troubled? It does nto look > as bad as in practical it is... > > > > Fallen mercury in 12th while 12th lord is also in fall totally > destroys the 12th house... > > > > I would like to also ans that does she have problem with sleeping, > or problem with feet? (3,4) And does she often loses things like she > can not remember where she kept something or loses important things > in any other ways? (5) > > > > Yes Yellow Sapph should help really, it is needed. On the other > hand ruby/any sun gemstone is also very much needed since it is the > 5th lord and there is a v good chance since the 5th lord aspects the > 5th house itself. She can also listen to the puranic / gayatri > mantras of Jupiter and Sun. > > > > I will try to answer other questions after I get some feedback as > requested. I think Su periods will make things better and Merc will > make worse. How's the jupiter periods in this regard any way? > > > > Best wishes, > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > Mail tanvir@s... > > Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > > Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > Jyotish discussion > > > > - > > illijenny > > > > Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:00 PM > > Vivid dreaming > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > This is the chart of my friend who has constant vivid dreams. It > > seems that Me in 12 th could be the cause of this. She also > looses > > herself in a pensive mood suddenly while conversing. Many times > in a > > group I have heard friends gossip about her without her > realizing. > > She is a pretty woman but because of this nature she cannot find > any > > boyfriend. Her last and first relationship lasted for a year in > 2000. > > > > Question is: > > 1. How can she overcome this habit of daydreaming? Is there any > > Vedic remedy? Does she have to recite any Mantras and propitiate > her > > Ishta Deva? > > 2. Is she likely to find a boyfriend in the near future and get > > married? If so when this can happen. Can wearing a yellow > sapphire > > hasten this period? > > 3. Will she reside in her home country or migrate soon for > > better pastures. > > 4. Is the Rahu/Sat period good for her career and love life? > > > > Thanks in advance for the Gurus who will respond. I wish all the > best > > in all ventures. > > > > Jen > > > > > > March 9, 1973 > > Time: 9:26:00 am > > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > > Place: 77 W 03' 00", 12 S 03' 00" > > Lagna 12 Ar 28' 12.72" Aswi 4 Ar Cn > > Sun - AK 25 Aq 24' 18.83" PBha 2 Aq Ta > > Moon - AmK 25 Ar 13' 06.60" Bhar 4 Ar Sc > > Mars - BK 24 Sg 18' 14.75" PSha 4 Sg Sc > > Mercury ® - DK 3 Pi 15' 09.07" PBha 4 Pi Cn > > Jupiter - GK 9 Cp 26' 03.28" USha 4 Cp Pi > > Venus - PiK 17 Aq 31' 51.61" Sata 4 Aq Pi > > Saturn - MK 20 Ta 41' 13.48" Rohi 4 Ta Cn > > Rahu - PK 20 Sg 11' 09.81" PSha 3 Sg Li > > Ketu 20 Ge 11' 09.81" Puna 1 Ge Ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Hello, Regarding sleep / feet problems, are you sure that she doesnt have any? May be you might not know... may be you can ask her? [That would be better.] Also about losing things etc... Any other sleeping trouble might be there, like there ae a few people sleep only 2/3 hrs a day, or dont sleep at night, you may want to ask her, which you might not know :-) Also, do you mean that she speaks some language well which is nor her mother tongue nor English? ["Bilingual"?] She is in Rahu-Sat and there is a very good chance to find a love/marriage since Saturn aspects both 7L and 7H. Also there is very good chance of marriage in next ve bhukti, surely. She should travel to foreign and/or settle down there, for planets in 9,10,12 and no planet in 4th and 4th lord goes to 10th house from itself. She might do service in foreign. I think Sat period will be ok for her since Sat is in exchange with Ve and aspected by Jupiter. I think she can save money easily, or what? What is about her eating habit? I think Sat period will be good about her money and earning. She also might be very sensitive mentally like can be hurt easily or can cry easily if hurt. Is this so? She might be fond of artistic things and literature. Is his father's nature/profession related to jupiter like things or like creative things, or isnt his role in her life much positive? Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Mail tanvir Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro Jyotish discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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