Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 All: We have become one very big family. This group is very inspiring and very learned. Let us keep pointing to the RIGHT PATH. The 12th house & the spiritual LINK ===================================== The 12th house, is not a very easy house in materialistic terms; however, there exist hints in ancient texts that indicate the spiritual significance of the 12th house! It is a house of paramount importance in the horoscopes of religious figures and ascetics. Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and matters such as 'pleasures of the couch' Generally speaking, one's spiritual growth, also known as the quest for knowing oneself, gets a kick start in a major way when one faces 'choices' that pertain to losing something or someone who is extremely dear. During most spiritual journeys, a time comes when one's attachments and clinging must be challenged and subsequently shed. Invariably, experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots around which the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually suffers the loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and the degree of metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can bring within oneself, varies between individuals, the profundity of the effect, however, is felt unambiguously. A loss in the materialistic plane could mean a GAIN in the spiritualistic. Example: Saturn in 12 the points to 2nd which indicates money loss through charities is extremely beneficial. 12th in general means overcoming the materialistic aspects to a tilt towards the spiritual. ' VENUS in 12th could indicate a battle that is fought less at the mental level. However I have seen a VENUS in 12th with KETU for a Gemini Ascendant. Very interesting combination. Here VENUS is in own conjunct with debilitated KETU. ""The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! Should such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be present in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels? The mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with simply "appearing" to be humble!"" Please feel free to respond and ADD. Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. Warm Regards. --Sanjay Aggarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Dear Sir, how about Gaj kesari yog in 12th house. What does that mean ? Also does ketu in 12th mean highly spiritual person. Regards ASTRONEED , "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology> wrote: > All: > > We have become one very big family. This group is very inspiring and > very learned. Let us keep pointing to the RIGHT PATH. > > > The 12th house & the spiritual LINK > ===================================== > > The 12th house, is not a very easy house in materialistic terms; > however, there exist hints in ancient texts that indicate the > spiritual significance of the 12th house! It is a house of paramount > importance in the horoscopes of religious figures and ascetics. > Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and > matters such as 'pleasures of the couch' > > Generally speaking, one's spiritual growth, also known as the quest > for knowing oneself, gets a kick start in a major way when one > faces 'choices' that pertain to losing something or someone who is > extremely dear. > > During most spiritual journeys, a time comes when one's attachments > and clinging must be challenged and subsequently shed. Invariably, > experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots around > which the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually > suffers the loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and the > degree of metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can bring > within oneself, varies between individuals, the profundity of the > effect, however, is felt unambiguously. > > A loss in the materialistic plane could mean a GAIN in the > spiritualistic. > > > Example: > > Saturn in 12 the points to 2nd which indicates money loss through > charities is extremely beneficial. > > 12th in general means overcoming the materialistic aspects to a tilt > towards the spiritual. ' > > VENUS in 12th could indicate a battle that is fought less at the > mental level. However I have seen a VENUS in 12th with KETU for a > Gemini Ascendant. Very interesting combination. Here VENUS is in > own conjunct with debilitated KETU. > > ""The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily > become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would > signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity > before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be > even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby > imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific > focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, > two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! Should > such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be present > in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path > towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, > signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the > expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, > lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how > much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels? The > mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is > to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with > simply "appearing" to be humble!"" > > Please feel free to respond and ADD. > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > Warm Regards. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 hello Sanjay, it is really tough to understand 12 house. i have two charts --- in one chart Ve[ Gemini 19:10] and Sa [ GE 22:17] -- both are present. in another chart Ma is in Scorpio[21:00} and Mars main will start in 2005. both are female charts how to interpret results? i hope you would like to say something regards, triptika - sanjaytechnology Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:27 PM The 12th HOUSE. All:We have become one very big family. This group is very inspiring and very learned. Let us keep pointing to the RIGHT PATH. The 12th house & the spiritual LINK=====================================The 12th house, is not a very easy house in materialistic terms; however, there exist hints in ancient texts that indicate the spiritual significance of the 12th house! It is a house of paramount importance in the horoscopes of religious figures and ascetics. Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and matters such as 'pleasures of the couch' Generally speaking, one's spiritual growth, also known as the quest for knowing oneself, gets a kick start in a major way when one faces 'choices' that pertain to losing something or someone who is extremely dear. During most spiritual journeys, a time comes when one's attachments and clinging must be challenged and subsequently shed. Invariably, experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots around which the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually suffers the loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and the degree of metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can bring within oneself, varies between individuals, the profundity of the effect, however, is felt unambiguously.A loss in the materialistic plane could mean a GAIN in the spiritualistic. Example:Saturn in 12 the points to 2nd which indicates money loss through charities is extremely beneficial. 12th in general means overcoming the materialistic aspects to a tilt towards the spiritual. 'VENUS in 12th could indicate a battle that is fought less at the mental level. However I have seen a VENUS in 12th with KETU for a Gemini Ascendant. Very interesting combination. Here VENUS is in own conjunct with debilitated KETU. ""The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! Should such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be present in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels? The mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with simply "appearing" to be humble!""Please feel free to respond and ADD. Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. Warm Regards. --Sanjay Aggarwal~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Nice post about 12th house.We would appreciate if you post more about the nature of planets occupying 12th house. What will be the implecation of Moon placed in 12th house does it someway related to Mind ??? Regards triptika <triptika (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: hello Sanjay, it is really tough to understand 12 house. i have two charts --- in one chart Ve[ Gemini 19:10] and Sa [ GE 22:17] -- both are present. in another chart Ma is in Scorpio[21:00} and Mars main will start in 2005. both are female charts how to interpret results? i hope you would like to say something regards, triptika - sanjaytechnology Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:27 PM The 12th HOUSE. All:We have become one very big family. This group is very inspiring and very learned. Let us keep pointing to the RIGHT PATH. The 12th house & the spiritual LINK=====================================The 12th house, is not a very easy house in materialistic terms; however, there exist hints in ancient texts that indicate the spiritual significance of the 12th house! It is a house of paramount importance in the horoscopes of religious figures and ascetics. Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and matters such as 'pleasures of the couch' Generally speaking, one's spiritual growth, also known as the quest for knowing oneself, gets a kick start in a major way when one faces 'choices' that pertain to losing something or someone who is extremely dear. During most spiritual journeys, a time comes when one's attachments and clinging must be challenged and subsequently shed. Invariably, experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots around which the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually suffers the loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and the degree of metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can bring within oneself, varies between individuals, the profundity of the effect, however, is felt unambiguously.A loss in the materialistic plane could mean a GAIN in the spiritualistic. Example:Saturn in 12 the points to 2nd which indicates money loss through charities is extremely beneficial. 12th in general means overcoming the materialistic aspects to a tilt towards the spiritual. 'VENUS in 12th could indicate a battle that is fought less at the mental level. However I have seen a VENUS in 12th with KETU for a Gemini Ascendant. Very interesting combination. Here VENUS is in own conjunct with debilitated KETU. ""The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! Should such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be present in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels? The mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with simply "appearing" to be humble!""Please feel free to respond and ADD. Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. Warm Regards. --Sanjay Aggarwal~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Dear Sanjay Ji, I found this paragraph very interesting, but I came up with doubts. Please help me clarify. As stated, the sun represents the individuality and ego, or better, the false ego where we end up falsely identifying our self, denying our true identity. Beside the apparent contribution of Saturn in this respect, would a debilitated Sun render the opposite result, where the nativity can easily renounce the false ego and come to realise his true self? Could such planetary condition favour true humbleness? Thank you, Roy (Your wrote:) ""The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! Should such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be present in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels? The mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with simply "appearing" to be humble!"" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Hi Roy and others, I didn't see the link to the article anywhere, so here's the link http://www.indianest.com/astro/00319.htm ...maybe it would help you. Roy, I wondered too about the deb sun, as I also have the deb sun, and in the 12th house no doubt, so it's a little confusing to me too Take care, Angie , "Roy Kamiki" <nutrideias@n...> wrote: > > Dear Sanjay Ji, > > I found this paragraph very interesting, but I came up with doubts. Please help me clarify. > As stated, the sun represents the individuality and ego, or better, the false ego where we end up > falsely identifying our self, denying our true identity. Beside the apparent contribution of Saturn > in this respect, would a debilitated Sun render the opposite result, where the nativity can > easily renounce the false ego and come to realise his true self? Could such planetary > condition favour true humbleness? > > Thank you, > Roy > > > > > (Your wrote:) > ""The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily > become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would > signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity > before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be > even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby > imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific > focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, > two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! Should > such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be present > in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path > towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, > signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the > expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, > lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how > much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels? The > mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is > to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with > simply "appearing" to be humble!"" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Hello, What happens when Sani is in 12th house in Aries and Rahu is in the 10th house of career in Aquarius.Basically, lord of 10th house is in 12th house, the house of spiritual enlightenment. DDN , "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology> wrote: > All: > > We have become one very big family. This group is very inspiring and > very learned. Let us keep pointing to the RIGHT PATH. > > > The 12th house & the spiritual LINK > ===================================== > > The 12th house, is not a very easy house in materialistic terms; > however, there exist hints in ancient texts that indicate the > spiritual significance of the 12th house! It is a house of paramount > importance in the horoscopes of religious figures and ascetics. > Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and > matters such as 'pleasures of the couch' > > Generally speaking, one's spiritual growth, also known as the quest > for knowing oneself, gets a kick start in a major way when one > faces 'choices' that pertain to losing something or someone who is > extremely dear. > > During most spiritual journeys, a time comes when one's attachments > and clinging must be challenged and subsequently shed. Invariably, > experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots around > which the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually > suffers the loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and the > degree of metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can bring > within oneself, varies between individuals, the profundity of the > effect, however, is felt unambiguously. > > A loss in the materialistic plane could mean a GAIN in the > spiritualistic. > > > Example: > > Saturn in 12 the points to 2nd which indicates money loss through > charities is extremely beneficial. > > 12th in general means overcoming the materialistic aspects to a tilt > towards the spiritual. ' > > VENUS in 12th could indicate a battle that is fought less at the > mental level. However I have seen a VENUS in 12th with KETU for a > Gemini Ascendant. Very interesting combination. Here VENUS is in > own conjunct with debilitated KETU. > > ""The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily > become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would > signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity > before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be > even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby > imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific > focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, > two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! Should > such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be present > in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path > towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, > signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the > expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, > lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how > much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels? The > mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is > to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with > simply "appearing" to be humble!"" > > Please feel free to respond and ADD. > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > Warm Regards. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 12 th house in general is "Loss Of....". You know what I mean. Look into your D-10 (Dashamsa), and look at the planets in 10th, Lord of 10th, 10th from 10th and Lord of House # ?? in the 10th. --Sanjay Aggarwal , "sayujya7" <nairdd@h...> wrote: > Hello, > > What happens when Sani is in 12th house in Aries and Rahu is in the > 10th house of career in Aquarius.Basically, lord of 10th house is in > 12th house, the house of spiritual enlightenment. > > DDN > > , "sanjaytechnology" > <sanjaytechnology> wrote: > > All: > > > > We have become one very big family. This group is very inspiring > and > > very learned. Let us keep pointing to the RIGHT PATH. > > > > > > The 12th house & the spiritual LINK > > ===================================== > > > > The 12th house, is not a very easy house in materialistic terms; > > however, there exist hints in ancient texts that indicate the > > spiritual significance of the 12th house! It is a house of > paramount > > importance in the horoscopes of religious figures and ascetics. > > Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and > > matters such as 'pleasures of the couch' > > > > Generally speaking, one's spiritual growth, also known as the > quest > > for knowing oneself, gets a kick start in a major way when one > > faces 'choices' that pertain to losing something or someone who is > > extremely dear. > > > > During most spiritual journeys, a time comes when one's > attachments > > and clinging must be challenged and subsequently shed. Invariably, > > experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots around > > which the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually > > suffers the loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and > the > > degree of metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can > bring > > within oneself, varies between individuals, the profundity of the > > effect, however, is felt unambiguously. > > > > A loss in the materialistic plane could mean a GAIN in the > > spiritualistic. > > > > > > Example: > > > > Saturn in 12 the points to 2nd which indicates money loss through > > charities is extremely beneficial. > > > > 12th in general means overcoming the materialistic aspects to a > tilt > > towards the spiritual. ' > > > > VENUS in 12th could indicate a battle that is fought less at the > > mental level. However I have seen a VENUS in 12th with KETU for a > > Gemini Ascendant. Very interesting combination. Here VENUS is in > > own conjunct with debilitated KETU. > > > > ""The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily > > become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would > > signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity > > before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be > > even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby > > imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific > > focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, > > two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! > Should > > such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be > present > > in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path > > towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, > > signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the > > expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, > > lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how > > much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels? > The > > mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is > > to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with > > simply "appearing" to be humble!"" > > > > Please feel free to respond and ADD. > > > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > > > Warm Regards. > > > > --Sanjay Aggarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 I have Saturn in 10th Hse, Rahu in 8th Hse and Jupiter in 12th Hse. Can anyone pls interprete. Name : Ramakrishnan DOB : 13/3/1971 Place : Penang ,Malaysia Time : 9.35 pm Star : Hasta -2 Lagna : Thula Rasi : Kanya To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 I have Saturn in 10th Hse, Rahu in 8th Hse and Jupiter in 12th Hse. Can anyone pls interprete. Name : Ramakrishnan DOB : 13/3/1971 Place : Penang ,Malaysia Time : 9.35 pm Star : Hasta -2 Lagna : Thula Rasi : Kanya To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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