The Brahman, The Remedy, SELF, ...Summarizing.

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Stephanie:

 

Please ready evry word of this email very carefully. It comes from

my very BEING.

 

I am just catching up on all the email responses on the postings I

had made in the AM. I just got in.

 

First of all, I must say that you have presented very clearly your

thought process and displayed your views in a very coherent manner.

All your points were very worthy and very well taken.

 

All:

 

Secondly, it was very enlightening to see such a wide variety of

thoughts saying one and the same thing in many ways. May it be any

religion , all paths ultimately lead to HIM and that is the path of

SELF REALIZATION.

 

Since this is a "Jyotish Remedy group", it was very enlightening to

see how the entire FOCUS of the discussion remained on the UNIVERSAL

REMEDY, which is nothing but "CORRECTION OF the SELF" through

the "PROCESS OF SELF REALIZATION". A detailed study of any

horoscope (Rasi, Navamsa and other Varga charts), all indicate the

weaknesses and strenghts of your planets which in turn point to the

weaknesses in your " PHYSICAL SELF" which in turn point to the

weaknesses in your "SELF, which in turn is a reflection of

your "PAST KARMIC DEEDS" which in turn point to the very core nature

of your SOUL SELF" , which in turn point to the REMEDIES, which is

nothing but CORRECTION of the SELF or simply stated as SELF

REALIZATION. Further All points in the the physical plane and the

mental plane are clearly defined through the 7 chakras in our human

body which in turn are linked to the weaknesses and strengths in our

horoscopes through planet placements making the intertwine very easy

and simple to understand. Also, by raising your energy levels

through YOGA and meditation we can clear most of the weakness in our

HUMAN SELF and ultimately lead us to the UNIVERSAL SELF.

 

It is wonderful to be part of this very inspiring and enlightened

group and the discussions that followed in the last couple of days

was the essence of the topic "Jyotish REMEDIES" or "REALIZATION OF

THE SELF". The likes of Stephanie, Mark, Harish Ji, Jean, Renee and

Surya joining us in the end after his vacation and other respected

members and with the grace of Tanvir Ji and Neeraj Bhai has made

this FORUM a dynamic and active principle and can be termed as part

of a "DIVINE PLAY".

 

Let us not forget on this path to SELF REALIZATION that:

 

Those who worship the unmanifest (asambhutim) enter blinding

darkness and those who worship the manifest only (sambhutim) enter

into greater darkness. The right approach is to worship both and

realize one through the other.

 

Concluding:

 

""Whatever we see on Earth is a form of Agni. All human beings are

forms of Agni. The Sun, Moon and stars in the sky above are also

forms of Agni. The highest form of Agni is the Brahmagni (Agni or

Brahman or the Absolute). This is the Agni of pure being (sat). This

is Shiva, the fire that creates, preserves, destroys and transcends

the entire universe.

 

 

May that Agni awaken in you! May all human beings manifest the

Divine Fire and restore the Divine Light to this troubled world!

 

Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti.

 

 

May we abide in the favor of the universal Fire, for he is the ruler

resplendent over all the worlds. Manifesting from us he perceives

the entire universe. The universal Fire spreads himself through the

Sun.

Present in Heaven, Agni is present on Earth. Present here he has

entered into all the plants. The universal Fire by his sudden power

is present everywhere. May he protect us by day and by night."

 

Warm Regards.

 

--Sanjay Aggarwal

 

 

 

 

, Stephanie Marie

<chotoprajapati> wrote:

> does anyone know where i can go in Northern NJ/NYC to have my

chart done? i understand that there are a number of mediocre

astrologers out there and that it is easy to be swindled.

>

> Harish Trivedi <harishtri> wrote:

> Hello Roy,

> No....I am not offended. In fact , if I can say, I am

> beyond being offended.

> Speaking about GURUS, (The So called), my research

> indicates that they are RAHU in disguise of Guru.

> Rahu is the only planet which owns Cheating as his one

> of the portfolios. He is Mayavi and can make hiself

> seen in any form. I hope you know how he got Amrita.

>

> He cannot show his power without people/mass around.He

> has a huge appetite, unquenchable thirst and unending

> Magnetic pulling power of attrection.

> Lord of the chemistry ....is this Rahu.

> So let us steer ourselves to God head and become

> Niskama as far as possible. Only then Rahu cannot

> trouble us. Thus he has power to steer you to God. !!

> I love this scoundrel Rahu.

> (Natural it is since I am born in Ashlesha !!!)

> Rgds

> HT

>

>

>

>

> -- Roy Kamiki <nutrideias@n...> wrote:

> > Hi Harishji

> >

> > Yes, I see what you mean. As a matter of fact, I

> > fully understand your point

> > of view. I wouldn't be surprised if statistics

> > proved 99% of the so-called

> > gurus to be bogus. But, let us not lament or feel

> > pity for the misfortune of

> > many (which may include myself) of being cheated or

> > fooled by false gurus.

> >

> > During the battle of Kuruksetra, while Arjuna was

> > confused as to whether or

> > not he should fight the battle, Krsna said the

> > following to his friend:

> > "While speaking wisely, you are lamenting

> > needlessly. The wise do not lament

> > nether for the living nor for the dead." (Bhagavad

> > Gita 2.11)

> >

> > Although the context of this verse was to stress our

> > true nature of

> > ourselves, which is spiritual and eternal, as

> > students of jyotish, we all

> > learn that charts reflect the results of the

> > native's previous activities,

> > that is, their Karma. And the Law of Karma is simply

> > stated - 'as you sow,

> > so shall you reap'.

> >

> > From this very basic principle, we can conclude that

> > we all abide by the Law

> > of Nature, and there is no such thing as victims (or

> > innocent victims), and

> > therefore, no cheated or fooled. Each action

> > inexorably causes some effect,

> > and each effect causes further effects. This cascade

> > of effects becomes

> > exceedingly intricate and perplexing, embroiling us

> > in extended matrices of

> > cause and effect, which bind us and the world

> > together into a vast,

> > self-regulating system. As Mahatma Gandhi is

> > reported to have said, 'After

> > inventing the Law of Karma, God was able to retire.'

> >

> > Some houses directly govern poorvapunya, or

> > past-life credit, such as the

> > 5th and the 9th. The 9th house is the best house of

> > the horoscope, and as

> > such any planet posited within will greatly

> > flourish. But, one of the

> > predominant significations of the 9th house is

> > 'guru', and an afflicted

> > bhava or debilitated planets such as Sun, Moon or

> > Mercury posited in this

> > house usually render false or fraudulent gurus.

> >

> > We just has to pray that the native of such

> > affliction can gradually evolve,

> > whether in the next life or in the hundredth life,

> > eventually encounter a

> > genuine guru.

> >

> > Please forgive me if this mail contains any bold

> > statements. I did not mean

> > to discredit your comments or counteract your

> > beliefs. Just sharing some

> > personally realisations.

> >

> > Roy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > "Harish Trivedi" <harishtri>

> > <>

> > Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:16 AM

> > Re: Difficulties in Understanding

> > Brahman.

> >

> >

> > > Hello Roy Ramiki,

> > >

> > > Good words indeed. about Guru and his importance.

> > !!

> > > Guru is a guide......

> > > Guru is a mile stone......Not the destination.

> > > On this road to knowledge, we need to walk on our

> > own.

> > >

> > > Gravitating always around a Guru makes you a

> > > satellite .

> > > When I see people hero worshipping Gurus(So

> > called)

> > > I feel pity.

> > > Such Gurus increase their importance by increasing

> > > their chelas.

> > > How many selfless Gurus you see these days?

> > > I know a very very few.

> > > Sorry to differ a bit.

> > > Rgds

> > > HT

> > > --- Roy Kamiki <nutrideias@n...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Sanjay Prabhu and members,

> > > >

> > > > I found your post on Brahman very inspiring.

> > > > Although I have a very strong

> > > > interest in Jyotish (study and follow JR Forum

> > every

> > > > day), I also somehow

> > > > naturally gravitate to topics on the Absolute.

> > > >

> > > > Sanjay Prabhu, sorry for sounding so

> > condescending,

> > > > but I would like to

> > > > stress the wonderful manner and approach of your

> > > > explanation on the subject.

> > > > You are always very cautious in referring to the

> > > > source of your statements

> > > > and affirmation. Sastric support is vital when

> > > > referring to knowledge of the

> > > > Absolute Truth. We all know that, as jivas and

> > > > limited beings, our senses

> > > > and intelligence alone is incapable of grasping

> > or

> > > > understanding the

> > > > Absolute.

> > > >

> > > > I have read many books on Jyotish, and most

> > authors

> > > > claim the importance of

> > > > studying the subject with the guidance of a

> > mentor

> > > > (guru). It must be

> > > > transmitted from a jyotishi who has received the

> > > > needed spark from his own

> > > > mentor, and pass it on to the next disciple. The

> > > > same parampara (disciplic

> > > > succession) principle applies to topics on the

> > > > Absolute. Besides the support

> > > > of the Sastras, we need a Guru, and eventually

> > > > sadhus from whom to seek

> > > > inspiration and enthuse us on the path.

> > > >

> > > > This way, we can gradually come to understand

> > the

> > > > Absolute Truth even while

> > > > conditioned by our limited senses, mind and

> > > > intelligence.

> > > >

> > > > Yasya deve para bhaktir

> > > > Yatha deve tatha gurau

> > > > Tasyaite kathita hy arthah

> > > > Prakasante mahatmanah

> > > >

> > > > (Svetasvatara Upanisad 6.23)

> > > >

> > > > "God is revealed to those who have fix devotion

> > to

> > > > the Supreme Lord and is

> > > > conducted by a spiritual master, to whom he has

> > the

> > > > same firm devotion and

> > > > faith."

> > > >

> > > > P.S. - Please forgive me for the poor

> > translation.

> > > > The original text is not

> > > > in English.

> > > >

> > > > Roy Kamiki

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "sanjaytechnology"

> > > > <sanjaytechnology>

> > > > <>

> > > > Saturday, January 17, 2004 5:06 PM

> > > > Difficulties in Understanding

> > Brahman.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > All:

> > > > >

> > > > > The knowledge of Brahman and the desire to

> > fell

> > > > Brahman is the

> > > > > beginning of understanding of the "SELF".

> > However,

> > > > the statements

> > > > > below are very powerful especiall the one "The

> > Isa

> > > > Upanishad warns

> > > > > the students of Brahman not to take sides

> > while

> > > > approaching Brahman.

> > > > > Those who worship the unmanifest (asambhutim)

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay,

 

that one line summed it all ... "The right approach is

to worship both and realize one through the other."

 

thanks for the post.

 

--- sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology

wrote:

> Stephanie:

>

> Please ready evry word of this email very carefully.

> It comes from

> my very BEING.

>

> I am just catching up on all the email responses on

> the postings I

> had made in the AM. I just got in.

>

> First of all, I must say that you have presented

> very clearly your

> thought process and displayed your views in a very

> coherent manner.

> All your points were very worthy and very well

> taken.

>

> All:

>

> Secondly, it was very enlightening to see such a

> wide variety of

> thoughts saying one and the same thing in many ways.

> May it be any

> religion , all paths ultimately lead to HIM and that

> is the path of

> SELF REALIZATION.

>

> Since this is a "Jyotish Remedy group", it was very

> enlightening to

> see how the entire FOCUS of the discussion remained

> on the UNIVERSAL

> REMEDY, which is nothing but "CORRECTION OF the

> SELF" through

> the "PROCESS OF SELF REALIZATION". A detailed study

> of any

> horoscope (Rasi, Navamsa and other Varga charts),

> all indicate the

> weaknesses and strenghts of your planets which in

> turn point to the

> weaknesses in your " PHYSICAL SELF" which in turn

> point to the

> weaknesses in your "SELF, which in turn is a

> reflection of

> your "PAST KARMIC DEEDS" which in turn point to the

> very core nature

> of your SOUL SELF" , which in turn point to the

> REMEDIES, which is

> nothing but CORRECTION of the SELF or simply stated

> as SELF

> REALIZATION. Further All points in the the physical

> plane and the

> mental plane are clearly defined through the 7

> chakras in our human

> body which in turn are linked to the weaknesses and

> strengths in our

> horoscopes through planet placements making the

> intertwine very easy

> and simple to understand. Also, by raising your

> energy levels

> through YOGA and meditation we can clear most of the

> weakness in our

> HUMAN SELF and ultimately lead us to the UNIVERSAL

> SELF.

>

> It is wonderful to be part of this very inspiring

> and enlightened

> group and the discussions that followed in the last

> couple of days

> was the essence of the topic "Jyotish REMEDIES" or

> "REALIZATION OF

> THE SELF". The likes of Stephanie, Mark, Harish Ji,

> Jean, Renee and

> Surya joining us in the end after his vacation and

> other respected

> members and with the grace of Tanvir Ji and Neeraj

> Bhai has made

> this FORUM a dynamic and active principle and can be

> termed as part

> of a "DIVINE PLAY".

>

> Let us not forget on this path to SELF REALIZATION

> that:

>

> Those who worship the unmanifest (asambhutim) enter

> blinding

> darkness and those who worship the manifest only

> (sambhutim) enter

> into greater darkness. The right approach is to

> worship both and

> realize one through the other.

>

> Concluding:

>

> ""Whatever we see on Earth is a form of Agni. All

> human beings are

> forms of Agni. The Sun, Moon and stars in the sky

> above are also

> forms of Agni. The highest form of Agni is the

> Brahmagni (Agni or

> Brahman or the Absolute). This is the Agni of pure

> being (sat). This

> is Shiva, the fire that creates, preserves, destroys

> and transcends

> the entire universe.

>

>

> May that Agni awaken in you! May all human beings

> manifest the

> Divine Fire and restore the Divine Light to this

> troubled world!

>

> Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti.

>

>

> May we abide in the favor of the universal Fire, for

> he is the ruler

> resplendent over all the worlds. Manifesting from us

> he perceives

> the entire universe. The universal Fire spreads

> himself through the

> Sun.

> Present in Heaven, Agni is present on Earth. Present

> here he has

> entered into all the plants. The universal Fire by

> his sudden power

> is present everywhere. May he protect us by day and

> by night."

>

> Warm Regards.

>

> --Sanjay Aggarwal

>

>

>

>

> , Stephanie

> Marie

> <chotoprajapati> wrote:

> > does anyone know where i can go in Northern NJ/NYC

> to have my

> chart done? i understand that there are a number of

> mediocre

> astrologers out there and that it is easy to be

> swindled.

> >

> > Harish Trivedi <harishtri> wrote:

> > Hello Roy,

> > No....I am not offended. In fact , if I can say, I

> am

> > beyond being offended.

> > Speaking about GURUS, (The So called), my research

> > indicates that they are RAHU in disguise of Guru.

> > Rahu is the only planet which owns Cheating as his

> one

> > of the portfolios. He is Mayavi and can make

> hiself

> > seen in any form. I hope you know how he got

> Amrita.

> >

> > He cannot show his power without people/mass

> around.He

> > has a huge appetite, unquenchable thirst and

> unending

> > Magnetic pulling power of attrection.

> > Lord of the chemistry ....is this Rahu.

> > So let us steer ourselves to God head and become

> > Niskama as far as possible. Only then Rahu cannot

> > trouble us. Thus he has power to steer you to God.

> !!

> > I love this scoundrel Rahu.

> > (Natural it is since I am born in Ashlesha !!!)

> > Rgds

> > HT

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -- Roy Kamiki <nutrideias@n...> wrote:

> > > Hi Harishji

> > >

> > > Yes, I see what you mean. As a matter of fact, I

> > > fully understand your point

> > > of view. I wouldn't be surprised if statistics

> > > proved 99% of the so-called

> > > gurus to be bogus. But, let us not lament or

> feel

> > > pity for the misfortune of

> > > many (which may include myself) of being cheated

> or

> > > fooled by false gurus.

> > >

> > > During the battle of Kuruksetra, while Arjuna

> was

> > > confused as to whether or

> > > not he should fight the battle, Krsna said the

> > > following to his friend:

> > > "While speaking wisely, you are lamenting

> > > needlessly. The wise do not lament

> > > nether for the living nor for the dead."

> (Bhagavad

> > > Gita 2.11)

>

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