surya siddhanta

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Anyone have a source on a translated version of the Surya

Siddhánta that I can find maybe as a download, e-book or

whatever via the net??? <hopeful grin>

 

Thanks,

 

Renee

Anyone have a source on a translated version of the Surya

Siddhánta that I can find maybe as a download, e-book or

whatever via the net??? <hopeful grin>

 

Thanks,

 

Renee

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O. Neugebauer, D. Pingree, The Pancha Siddhanta of Varaha Mihira, Parts, 1 and

2, København, 1970 - 1971.

 

Hello Renee Serrano

The above one book is avilable somewhere and you can do the search

using google search. D. Pingree is the author has translated also the

Yavanajataka and the book is avilable in two parts.

Vedic astrology can be broadly classified into three main divisions namely

Siddhanta, Samhita and Hora sastra. Siddhanta mainly dealt with astronomical

science. Samhita is the science of astrology that dealt with world events with

respect to the movements of heavenly bodies. Hora Sastra studied the effect of

human using the horoscope. Pita Maha Siddhanta and Vashista Siddhanta are the

main two literature works by Pita Maha and Vashista respectively. Along with it

three more Siddhanta are known and they are Surya Siddhanta, Pulisha Siddhanta

and Brahma Siddhanta. Collectively Varaha Mihira I hope wrote the Pancha

Siddhanata and its translation is avilable through D. Pingree. I hope this can

be helpful to you.

 

Please some of the elderly astrologers help me in my statement whether my

statement is valid or not so that I can correct myself because astrology is a

ocean and I know only about the handful of water.

 

With warm regards

Yours sincerely

A. Ramani.Renee Serrano <firecracker (AT) maineline (DOT) net> wrote:

Anyone have a source on a translated version of the SuryaSiddhánta that I can

find maybe as a download, e-book orwhatever via the net??? <hopeful

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Hi A. Ramani!!

 

[you]

 

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avilable somewhere and you can do the search using google search. D. Pingree is

the author has translated also the Yavanajataka and the book is avilable in two

parts.

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color:black">Thanks for checking but that’s not the one I wanted.  I searched many many

search engines for the specific ‘surya siddhanta’ and found it but

the pricing was not what I

wanted.  So I finally found it late last

night on abebooks.com for an incredible 6 bucks U.S.!! 

Yippee!! 

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Vedic

astrology can be broadly classified into three main divisions namely Siddhanta,

Samhita and Hora sastra. Siddhanta mainly dealt with

astronomical science. Samhita is the science of astrology that dealt with world

events with respect to the movements of heavenly bodies. Hora Sastra studied

the effect of human using the horoscope. Pita Maha Siddhanta and Vashista

Siddhanta are the main two literature works by Pita Maha and Vashista

respectively. Along with it three more Siddhanta are known and they are Surya

Siddhanta, Pulisha Siddhanta and Brahma Siddhanta. Collectively Varaha Mihira I

hope wrote the Pancha Siddhanata and its translation is avilable through D.

Pingree. I hope this can be helpful to you.

 

[me]

The reason why I wanted that particular

text was due to the fact that I have the Kala software (www.vedic astrology.net) and I had

bought it a year ago.  Since then a ‘muhurta’ module was added so I got the upgrade and

the book by the owner of the site….to go with it.  Interestingly enough, I also study

medieval/renaissance astrology (westerners DO have their own ‘ancients’

who followed material handed down from way back as well) paralleling my jyotish investigations. 

Medieval astro has a branch similar to kavach-making called ‘talisman’ or astrological

magic not in a silly sense….in a very serious alchemist point of

view.  However, due to my respect for jyotish material, I have some serious

misgivings about ‘how’

they use their lunar mansions and ‘charts’ they come up with to

create talismans.  Their system of

tropical vs vedic’s

sidereal based nakshatra’s seems so ‘off’

to me especially when one of the authors of a book called the

‘picatrix’ (a very old ‘scripture’ I guess

you would say by Ghayat Al-Hakim) that some medieval

astrologers use as a book of rules for talisman making…… states at

the end of his lunar mansion chapter “The Indians (meaning India) relied

on the above 28 pictures (lunar mansions) in their choices and attempts.  That

is what we have found as we reviewed

their books in this regard.  The

important thing, as we mentioned above, is that when you try to do good things,

the moon must be clear of any misfortune or any burning and replete with good

luck……..(continuing further on)…as we have mentioned before,

the talisman maker needs to be certain of what he is doing.  He needs to be

prepared and ready to accept

the outcome of the intended effects.” 

Etc etc. 

This author was Arabic and we know they

got a lot of their material from the vedic

astrologers.  This book was written over

1000 years ago, by the way.  My question

then is who decided to switch from sidereal to tropical based

nakshatra’s/lunar mansions?  In the medieval world I mean.  Everyone is

saying this guy’s lunar

mansions are tropical based and I don’t see any evidence pointing to that

yet.  If this was true, then what is his

definition of an astrologer ‘being certain of what he is doing’?  If

one is going to ‘borrow’ the nakshatra system, change the names to

protect the innocent

and rename them the names they did and then switch zodiac’s….how is

this being ‘careful’????

Anyway, in my studies I discovered by

accident upon reading Ernst Wilhelm’s book “Classical Muhurta”

that the Surya Siddhanta is the oldest astronomical (yet having many

astrological references/teachings in that book so not entirely astronomical)

book that we know of and he explains (the author of Surya)

a bit more about the confusion of the sidereal and tropical systems and when

each is appropriate.  It’s not what

we westerners ‘assumed’.  The

relationship between the sun and moon visually (seasons) IS important in

determining some factors in muhurta delineation but

somehow someone decided that we must also stick all the other placements out

there in that ‘relationship’ (tropical zodiac) too such as the

other planets.  This is not what this

relationship between the sun/moon was meant for.  So I wanted to see for myself what the author

wrote since it was very interesting to read Mr. Wilhelm’s book. 

Take today, for instance.  I had no choice as to timing for a very

important surgery my spouse just went through. 

He is coming to the end of a very long road with problems that are

slowly being cleared up after many years of suffering, misdiagnosis and so

on.  I pulled up the muhurta

chart (yes its an electional

chart) to see all the factors involved according to the rules in the program

that are programmed into Kala (and in the book) to see if the moment of the start of his

surgery was considered a good muhurta for surgery IF

I had been able to pick it.  I was

astonished (fate, destiny?) to see benefics in the angles…Venus on the

Asc, Jupiter on the Desc, Venus ruling the 4th.  Mars/Rahu in the 3rd in Aries

(mars in own sign) ruling the 10th. 

The other ‘factors’ looked good.  They might not entirely ‘fit’ a

surgery chart but at least they seemed positive in some respects especially

with benefics in the angles.  The one

question I had, though, is that in the book of Muhurta

it said something to the effect to not have the lagna of the event also

coincide with the lagna of the person for whom it is for (I think for surgery

but I could be wrong).  This lagna was in

Aquarius and my spouse’s lagna is Aquarius in vedic

as well.  OH well!  The surgery went much faster then they

thought.  The doc’s thought it

would be over 3 hours at least and that he would be outfitted with a morphine

pump since they expected him to have a high level of pain.  The surgery was 2

hours and he has not had

much pain at all, woke up much quicker then what they thought and wanted to go home…back

to his happy (but groggy) self.  They

were blown away.  He had an incisional hernia and the doctors in one state never

mentioned it for the last year and a half…we just thought he was getting

‘chubby’.  Neither one of us has experienced a hernia in

our families so we didn’t know. 

The first appt here where we moved in an entirely different state….they

noticed it right away and it was so big they felt he had to deal with it

immediately or it will just get worse. 

What rules hernias (stomach muscles/intestines) as far as planets??  So all the

situations so far (three surgeries

in four months) that the doctors here have dealt with are in an effort to ‘clean

up’ what the doctors on the west coast overlooked, messed up,

misdiagnosed or did not diagnose at all. 

And who said relocating does not work? 

<G>

So am just

learning another branch of jyotish in order to verify

or ‘throw out’ misinformation in another branch. 

I believe that the author of Surya Siddhanta wrote it in 400 B.C. and the arab’s

upon discovering vedic material, based their material

on such discoveries.  Therefore how did

the sidereal/tropical situation become so confused for westerners?  Mr. Wilhelm

also felt that the Surya was written prior to Kali Yuga starting and those

astrologers in medieval times were not able to discern or stick to the truth

due to Kali Yuga’s influence which could make sense too.

 

Thanks again…

Renee

 

Please

some of the elderly astrologers help me in my statement whether my statement is

valid or not so that I can correct myself because astrology is a ocean and I

know only about the handful of water.

 

With

warm regards

Yours

sincerely

A.

Ramani.

Renee Serrano

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Surya

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Siddhánta that I can find maybe as a download,

e-book or

whatever via the net??? <hopeful grin>

Thanks,

Renee

Anyone have a source on a translated version of

the Surya

Siddhánta that I can find maybe as a download, e-book

or

whatever via the net??? <hopeful grin>

Thanks,

Renee

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