Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Dear All, I joined this forum recently and I am excited with the intellectual interactions of various members. I want to take more active part but due to nature of my work , I was unable to do so. I wanted to start posting but before that, I though I would just do a experiment. I am giving below my DOB and other details and not giving any other information. In case somebody wants to take a try and find out atleast some major aspects about me, I will be glad to know that and then I will start posting. Name - Anil Gogate DOB - 5 th June 1956 Time - 13:50 Hrs ( IST ) Place - Mumbai ( Bombay ) - India Lat 19 - 17 North Lon 72 - 49 East Best wishes, Anil Gogate - Sanjay Chadha Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:12 AM Re: Delay in Marriage --> Sanjay Chadha..More Complete analysis. Dear Sanjay, I was very curious to learn more about bhadaka's after reading your email. Please have a look at the below link: http://www.starteller.com/estart11.html I understand that since the Virgo lagna is dual lagna, the lord of 7th, Jup becomes a badhaka and that may lead to obstructions and delays for the individual in Jup dasha. I am just copying the last para of the article which throws more light on when to consider a planet as a badhaka as per Jataka Parijata, In Jataka Parijata we find that there is an additional condition for a house or planet to be a badhaka. The badhaka lord for a particular lagna should only be treated as an actual badhaka, if it simultaneously the lord of the house tenanted by Mandi (Gulika) or Kharesha (Lord of 22nd drekkana from the lagna). This definition has some sense in it because Mandi (or Gulika) the son of Saturn is a great malefic while kharesha which also known as chhidra Graha is a dire malefic as 22nd decanate falls in the 8th house from the lagna. These two planets always give adverse results to the native. Therefore, the concept of house of harm or badhaka as described in Prasna Marga is applicable to only horory astrology and not in natal astrology. More over there are certain other factors which act as badhaka under certain circumstances. Saturn, the natural malefic and the signification of delay, obstruction, etc. seems to be a natural badhaka, particularly when adverse for a nativity and afflicted. The lord of 6th, 8th and 12th usually produce obstacles in progress We can see that any lord under malefic influence usually obstruct the flow of good results. Therefore, we should not fear about the badhaka concept by giving undue importance to it because any planet under adverse circumstances may behave as badhaka regarding its good results of ownership, placement and karakatwas. I had problem understanding the following line " The badhaka lord for a particular lagna should only be treated as an actual badhaka, if it simultaneously the lord of the house tenanted by Mandi (Gulika) or Kharesha (Lord of 22nd drekkana from the lagna). " Is this situation applicable with reference to the chart that we have been discussing? I am starting in astrology and would appreciate if you can help clarify (Date : Aug 22, 1973, 9:10 AM, Jaipur). I would appreciate your response. Regards Sanjay Chadha sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology > wrote: Dear Sanjay Chadha:Same Analysis but more complete. Please read below again.His RAHU/MARS Dasha will continue till early Jan 2005. This period will be troublesome for the native as I explained earlier. It is imperative that the native propitiates RAHU and MARS to get good results in all aspects of life currently. His Dasha will switch to Guru in Jan 2005. RAHU will in all probability significate marriage for the native. Remember, RAHU likes to be next to beauty (VENUS) and is looking for an opportunity to "strike". This will happen when TRANSIT VENUS moves into own sign or exaltation sign. Transit VENUS is right now in Aquarius and will move into Pisces early next month. This is a good move from the native's perspective (since it moves into exaltation in Yuvati Bhava). The native will hear some good news in the month of February regarding his marriage, maybe an initiation of some sort. Also, Transit VENUS will move into TAURUS in April this year (own sign) that is 9th house of father. So Father will be instrumental in pushing the marriage and significating it. So April is another fortunate month from a marriage perspective. But the real fortunate month will be December 2004 for Venus would have moved into Libra in Natives 2nd house. Amazingly RAHU would have switched Transits into the sign of PISCES from ARIES as well significating "Vivaah" in December 2004. I am not sure about the exact date of the Transit move for RAHU (since I am traveling in a plane right now and don't have access to the transit calculator J). Please check into that. Moon is in 9th house of Father exalted, signifying Dad as a very prosperous businessman. And moreover Guru Drishti is also on 9th.Coming back to Guru. Guru is RAHU Dispositor as well as Yuvati Bhava Dispositor and is sitting in the 5th. Remember what the "Sage" has said. Guru having lordship of angles looses its benefic nature and becomes a functional malefic for Virgo ascendant. This is not an ordinary GURU but a GURU that is Retrograde and debilitated. A Retrograde GURU (malefic) will affect the stomach parts in terms of health particularly the areas around liver, gall bladder. Guru also being Badhaka Lagnesh will give trouble to the native in its Dasha/Antardasha periods. Even though GURU is in 5th , it is not the "GURU" we know, it is a GURU who is the dispositor of RAHU in the 4th and Yuvati of 10th ( Badhaka Lagnesh). I hope this explains. This also says very clearly that the native should propitiate Guru starting 2005 with all his heart to get good results in a very major post marriage Dasha. Good Luck. Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. --Sanjay Aggarwal, "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology> wrote:> Hello Sanjay:> > He is running RAHU/MARS till 2005 Jan. So appeasement of RAHU and > Mangal becomes imperative for all the reasons mentioned. > > For marriage, Look at transits for VENUS. Transit Venus is in > Aquarius. It will enter PISCES (7th Yuvati of native) early next > month which will be a fortunate time for the native to hear soem > good news regarding life partner. Next movememnt of VENUS will be in > TAURUS in early April I believe will be even more fortunate for > marriage because Moon is standing all alone exalted in 9th house of > father and VENUS will be in own in 9th meaning that with blessings > of FATHER, the MArriage will solemnize. But dont forget RAHU, RAHU > is closely monitoring beauty all the way (VENUS) and will strike at > these opportune moments. How and when, only RAHU knows. The period > favorable after that will be when VENUS enters LIBRA in transit in > Dec 2004.> > The fact that he has no EGO is a good sign for success. Remember > Guru is a functional Malefic for Virgo Lagna (due to ownership of > both angles) Also Guru Retrograde in 5th will create problems in the > stomach area (particularly the are around liver and gall bladder). > More over Badhaka Lagna is PISCES. So Badhaka Lagnesh (Guru) will be > troublesome. > > Also, remember here RAHU's dispositor is also GURU and the > Dispositor for Pisces is also GURU. And that is not an ordinary > GURU. THIS is a Guru under the Graha of RAHU with Retrograde > qualities and debilitated in Putra Sthana. Hope I am clear. That is > why propitiating GURU after marriage is very important when the > Dasha moves IN 2005. > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal> > > > , Sanjay Chadha > <chadhatony> wrote:> > > > Dear Sanjayji, Harishji and Dharmanandaji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed note, I am addressing some more things > here since I know the person very well . > > > > > > > > The marriage was fixed and broken with-in Dec 19-27, 2003. So your > observation that this happened when the antardasha changed from Rahu-> Moon to Rahu-Mars is very correct. > > > > > > > > The person is reasonably down to earth and quite a balanced > individual – very much loved and admired among his friends and > relatives. He is also very well educated with engineering degree and > two masters in business from USA and holds a very good character. He > also belongs to a very well to do and rich family with father a > leading business man in India. His brother is also very well placed > in USA.> > > > > > > > The person has done extremly well in his career till now and holds > a strong bank balance. Your observation that in subperiods of Ketu > he suffered career setbacks is very correct. He had lost his job in > 1997 Sep and had to return back to India. In 1998, he had returned > back to USA in dasha of Rahu-Venus. You are also correct that he is > going through a bad period currently as his career is in tough > situation and he is just hoping to somehow protect his job (current > economic situation in USA) and that is what is becoming another > reason that he is not comfortable in getting married although he is > still looking for a potential match..> > > > > > > > As far as the guru dasha being troublesome, I somehow disagree. I > feel that Guru dasha should be really good for this person from > career prosperity and financial perspective. The reasons being Guru > although is debilated, it looks at 11th house with Uch drishti. Also > it positively aspects the 9th house which is house of luck and > finally it also aspects the lagna. As far as the personal > troublesome Marriage aspect is considered in Jupiter Mahadasha that > needs to be seen.> > > > > > > > I have just some quick questions on this horoscope and will > appreciate your clarifications:> > > > > > > > 1] If he does not get married in Rahu dasha, is Jupiter Dasha > supportive of Marriage. Seems he is going to be now in USA and > cannot go to India to get married before Dec 2004.> > > > > > > > 2] If he decides to get married in Rahu dasha, can you please > indicate the dates when that can happen in 2004.?> > > > > > > > 3] Can bad things happen to his career in 2004 which he is > expecting or he will be fine with job and finances as earlier?> > > > > > > > 4] Do you agree with me that his Jup dasha will be good for his > career?> > > > > > > > I am learning astrology and hope to learn more from this > interesting conversation and also hope you will forgive me if it > seems shallow knowledge anywhere. I thank you for the time taken > and look forward to hearing from you. It has been really a very > interesting exchange of thoughts and some knowledge for me here.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Sanjay Chadha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology> wrote:Some more points:> > > > Mars is in ARIES in Transit and in own in Natal in 8th, so this is > a > > very troublesome period for the native. Also TRANSIT RAHU is in > > ARIES. This is a very deadly, very POTENT MALEFIC COMBO. RAHU in > 4th > > is aspecting Transit RAHU conjunct with Transit MARS conjunct with > > Natal Mars... all lying in the dreaded 8th. Further more RAHU is > > aspecting itself back to Natal position through 9th aspect from > > TRANSIT. Transit Mars is in own with RASI MARS FIRING in full > POTENT > > MALEFIC FLOW and aspecting 3rd whose sign LORD is also MARS. So > > propitiating RAHU and MARS becomes very very important. This is > very > > important!!!!> > > > Since Yuvati Lord is Guru and RAHU is known to significate YONI > > YUVATI BHANGA , it will cause the native to get married. It will > in > > all happen when RAHU finds itself along with "Beauty" signifying > > VENUS. This can happen when RAHU and VENUS are with each other in > > transit or VENUS is in own in Libra or Taurus or in Pisces. In all > 3 > > cases the Native will get engaged and then get married (in any > > combination) since RAHU is unpredictable and will decide the > course > > which best suits him. > > > > Further more since "Rahu Sthanesh" {lord of Rahu Sthana} is Guru > and > > Yuvati Bhavesh is also Guru, it seems almost as if the reflection > > from RAHU acting as a mirror cannot be clearer. The Dasa Guru/Guru > > coming up later will be very troublesome in > > the "Marriage/Relationship Plane". Further more it will cause > > trouble significating first child in 5th. > > > > So for now the native must APPEASE RAHU and MARS and later on when > > the Guru Dasa start MUST Appease Guru through proper prayer > > and "Remedy". > > > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > > > --Sanjay Aggarwal> > > > > > --- In , "sanjaytechnology" > > <sanjaytechnology> wrote:> > > Dear Sanjay Chadha:> > > > > > I looked at this horoscope. Here is my reading (first > > traditional , > > > then Hemanth Bhai's principles) : Please read carefully.> > > > > > Traditional Approach:> > > > > > Native is a Virgo Lagna. Applying first principles:> > > > > > Background for Virgo Lagna: Mars, Jupiter and the Moon are > > malefics > > > and Mercury and Venus are benefics. Mercury and Venus become > > > yogakarakas. Venus is a killer also and the Sun gives results > > based > > > on his associations.> > > > > > Very Important: MARS , as an impressionable 8th lord, becomes a > > > very POTENT MALEFIC for Virgo since it simultaneously rules the > > > inauspicious 3rd house.> > > > > > > > > Now, Lets examine yuvati Bhava (7th). Lord of 7th is (Guru, > > > functional Malefic) is in 5th. Now native is running RAHU dasha > > with > > > Mars Antar Dasha. Mars is in the dreaded 8th in own. TRANSIT > Mars > > in > > > December 2003 was in the sign of PISCES (Yuvati Bhava). Mars > being > > a > > > potent malefic for this chart became Badhaka for Marriage by > first > > > principles. A badly placed Mangal can play havoc with > > relationships > > > and marriage. Mars in this horoscope is 12th from Rasi Moon and > > 8th > > > from Lagna (get the picture??????????). > > > > > > Interestingly the natives Antar Dasha changed from Moon to Mars > on > > > Dec 21, 2003. When did the engagement break take place? When was > > the > > > engagement Muhurat Set Up (exact date and time?). Now what is > even > > > more exciting in this horoscope (in terms of analysis) is that > > RAHU > > > aspects Mars through 5th aspect (RAHU drishti). Remember the > > native > > > has RAHu Mahadasha so look at all RAHU aspects. RAHU aspects 8th > > > house, 10th house and 12 th house. But the aspect to SUN is very > > > signficant (the karaka for FATHER in 12th)...2 Meanings....the > one > > > is obvious...2ndly the NATIVE may have a BIG EGO...and has to > let > > > that GO to achieve anything in life. > > > > > > Since RAHU is aspecting MARS , the aspects for MARS are fired > with > > > POTENT Maleficness. Mars aspects 11th house of financial gain > > > (indicates heavy siffering)...Mars aspects 2nd house of wealth > > which > > > is 8th from the 7th (end of first relationship). Lord of 2nd is > > > Venus and is in Lagna, well placed although debilitated. VENUS > > must > > > be in own in TRANSIT or in PISCES to significate marriage. VENUS > > was > > > not in either. > > > > > > From the above it is clear that MARS has played a potent malefic > > > role to disturb the conditions for marriage. It has also become > > > imperative for the native to pick a spouse whose horoscope > matches > > > and complements natives Malefic Mars and debilitated VENUS for > > > lasting relationship.> > > > > > A parting note ...KETU in Gemini plays havoc. I have seen lot of > > > charts. KETU in GEMINI is in 10th house of career. This would > have > > > always given loss of career whenever Dasha or Antar Dasha came. > It > > > also aspects 2nd house of Dhana (suffering to that)...suffering > to > > > mother.... and health problems for native. It also indicates > > > suffering to fathers career, father health..mothers younger > > > sibling.....The dates of suffering (all the above in this KETU > > > paragraph) : 1. 1997 July -- 1998 July 2. 1984 July -- 1984 > > > Dec. 3. 1977 April -- 1977 November. > > > > > > ------------> > > > > > Applying Harish Bhai Laws of Yoni Lagna (i hop u have read > them) --> > >> > > > > > 1. RAHU has remarkably found himself in 4th house again. Harish > > Bhai > > > mark this. His number is 4 as well. (22 Decemeber). Same as > mine. > > > Remarkable co-incidence. > > > 2. 2nd Bhava Lord from RAHU is spoilt by KETU. > > > 3. 7th lord from RAHU is 8th from RAHU.> > > 3.5 8th from RAHU spoint by MARS aspect. 12th from RAHU spoilt > by > > > MARS and also aspecting own sign making that a very powerful > > potent > > > aspect. > > > 4. But abstracting very very plainly....placing RAHU in > > > 10th....Badhaka Lagna = PISCES or Yuvati Bhava from janma > > Lagna....I > > > can very affirmatively....that RAHU will play a problem in the > > first > > > marriage. Though it will significate first marriage but will > cause > > > problems in the materialistic plane. > > > > > > I predict natives Guru Dasha will be troublesome due to it being > > the > > > Badhaka Lagna (10th od from RAHU).> > > > > > You can see how from first principle the derivations are tiring > > and > > > cumbersome but from Harish (Hemanth) Bhai's priciples, the > answers > > > are so easy. > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > > > > > Important Summary for Harish Bhai: Again a number 4, has RAHu in > > > 4th. Amazing co-incidence, i would like to run this scenario in > > all > > > number 4's. Would be a very very interesting FIND. What do you > say > > > Hemanth Bhai?> > > > > > --Sanjay Aggarwal> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , Sanjay Chadha > > > <chadhatony> wrote:> > > > Dear Dharmananda,> > > > > > > > That was a very good observation. I just realised what you > meant > > > by interplay - what would be the astrological infrence for this > > > exchange of positions in Rashi and Navamsha. I would appreciate > if > > > you can throw some light. I would appreciate your response.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Sanjay> > > > > > > > Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony> wrote:> > > > Dear Dharmananda,> > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. I appreciate the mail. When you say an > > > interesting interplay between Venus and Sun, what does that > > mean? . > > > > > > > > Do you also agree with my interpretation about the nature of > his > > > wife? He is really looking actively to get married but the last > > > marriage breaking apart made him emotionally tense.> > > > > > > > Look forward to hearing from you.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Sanjay Chadha> > > > > > > > Dharmananda <cerulean122000> wrote:> > > > Sanjay,> > > > > > > > I agree about the timing. > > > > > > > > There's an interesting interplay between Venus and the Sun > (DK). > > > The Sun is in the 12th in the Rasi, and Venus is in the 1st. In > > the > > > Navamsha, Venus is in the 12th with Jupiter, and the Sun is in > the > > > 1st with Chandra. Because of the sexual implications of the > 12th > > > house, I would say that they both should wear jewelry for Venus > > and > > > the Sun, and they'll be married as quick as possible for sure.> > > > > > > > Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony> wrote:> > > > Dear Dharmananda,> > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. The place of birth is Jaipur, Rajastha, > > > India. The coordinates are > > > > > > > > Longitude: 75E49'00 and Latidude: 26N55'00> > > > > > > > I hope I am close but I am not sure hence the reason to double > > > check. Look forward to your email tomorrow. Thanks again.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Sanjay> > > > > > > > Dharmananda <cerulean122000> wrote:> > > > Sanjay,> > > > > > > > I would like to take a look at this, but I couldn't find the > > place > > > name in the online Atlas. If you can provide coordinates, or a > > more > > > well-known place name, I would be happy to take a look at it.> > > > > > > > I suspect that your reading is accurate.> > > > > > > > Blessed Be Dharmananda> > > > > > > > Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony> wrote:> > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > Please analyze this chart. His family is in stress due to a > > delay. > > > He was almost engaged in Deember 2003, but the marriage broke > off. > > I > > > checked his chart. I would appreciate a second opinion from you.> > > > > > > > Name: Vishram Kapoor> > > > Date of Birth: August 22, 1973> > > > Place of Birth: Jaipur> > > > Time of Birth: 9:10 AM> > > > > > > > Here are my observations:> > > > > > > > - Currently undergoing Sadi Sati last stage - which will get > > over > > > in Oct 2004.> > > > - Venus is Debilated (seems no neech bhanga yoga) in 1st house > > but > > > it is looking at 7th with a Uchha eye.> > > > - Sat is aspecting 7th house from 10th and also is currently > in > > > Transit in 10th.> > > > - The lord of 7th, Jup is again Debilated in 5th. Jupiter is > > also > > > retrograde. However since the lord of 5th is in 10th (Sat in > > > Kendra), Jup Neech bhanga yoga happens.> > > > - Jupiter in Navamsa is sitting in 12th house with Venus.> > > > - Currently he is ending Rahu Mahadasha (Rahu-Mars) and Jup > > dasha > > > is going to start in Jan 2005. > > > > > > > > The person is also going through a little career unstability > > > although he has done well in the past. I feel that the marriage > > > should take place after Sade Sati is finished and in Jupiter > > > Mahadasha. in June/July Jupiter will transit to Lagna and things > > > should go positive after that. His wife should be beautiful, > from > > a > > > good family, well educated, must be religious and over all good.> > > > > > > > I would appreciate your opinions also.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Dear Anil, I am a student of Astrology just like you. I am trying to test my skills . So please don't feel bad if my observations trouble you. Before I take up a horoscope for reading, I try and look for INTENTION or Check the MIND of the person who asks the question. I cast a prasna of the time I saw your mail for the first time. Prasna Chart. DOP......28JAN 2004 Time.....9.45 AM Place ...Bangalore Lagna......Pisces Mesha......Mars,Rahu,Moon Gemini.....Saturn Leo........Jupiter Libra......Ketu Saggitarius...Mercury Capricorn.....sun Aquarius......Venus I made certain inferences from the chart. 1) Your intentions are doublefold. You are masking the true intentions of asking. why ? you may ask, You have Rahu, Mangal and Moon in 2nd in Vak sthanam. Guru, lord of Lagna and Karma in 6th in Vakra. You have Saturn in 4th , in Heart aspected by Mercury. These combinations tells me that you want to know your past, present and future from people , the easy way. Since in prasna, Rahu is in 2nd house, the person who puts the question will use deception, falsehood etc to get what he or she wants. If so far, what I have written holds any truth, then please post the reply so that I will do further reading. I have also had a look at your birth chart. You have a very interesting chart. A lot of downs some ups in life. powerful Ghor Tamas yoga in 3rd house , resulting in robbing you of many happinesses of life. Marital happiness ?? Serious question mark. Very good intellect . Watch out for health . Rgds HT SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting./ps/sb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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