Vegetarianism -- Life Force in Plants..Very Important!! --> Jose

[Guest guest]

Dear Jose:

 

> People are getting sicker and sicker all over the

> world and India is no exception mainly due to dietary

> habits based on mis-information

 

So what is your point :-)? What do you derive from this article :-)?

Do you agree with the views portrayed in this article? This article

fails to elighten people about the "Life Force" or any focus towards

it. The point of the discussion at all times revolves around

the "SELF". The "SELF" or the manifestation of the "SELF" is the

center of gravity of all discussions which take place over here.

That gravity will ultimately pull us towards it into the never

ending quest in the search of the infinite Cosmos

 

Let me lay some more focus over here.

 

As human beings, we are or should be the intelligence of fire. Fire

was our first guru and guide in the infancy of our species. It

taught us how to cook our food, how to forge metal and many other

skills of early humanity. It taught us our first religion, our most

ancient rituals, and functioned as our first doorway into the cosmic

mind. Today we need to return to that original fire spirit and

discover its inner message.

 

The human soul that should be the crowing glory of nature and the

protector of the Earth is trampling and feeding upon the very

animals, trampling upon the plants and even rocks through which it

evolved and which are its mothers. This is because we have forgotten

our soul, our Agni, our flame portion of the Divine light. We have

lost touch with our heart, our origin and our goal. Our artificially

cultivated ego has become our dominant motive force and it is fed

with the dark fires of greed, lust and ambition. This is the tragedy

of our current civilization and the global crisis it has created.

Instead of promoting the Divine light, we have created a false Agni

or fire of consumerist desires that may end up destroying ourselves

as well as our environment.

 

We must learn to sublimate our fire from an ANIMAL to a DIVINE

level. This is not to suppress it or try to put it out but to take

it to a higher level of manifestation. It requires the fire of

austerity and simplicity (tapas), recasting our lower base humanity

into the pure goal of the enlightened nature.

 

This Divine fire is born within all creatures as their soul and

sense of Self. Notably, Agni unfolds the Lords of Dharma as the

great Gods, Varuna and Mitra, who symbolize the truth principles of

purity and compassion. Agni merges with the descending Vayu or

electrical/lightning force of Indra (truth perception), which

destroys all ignorance and brings the soul into the infinite.

 

May that Agni awaken in you! May all human beings manifest the

Divine Fire and restore the Divine Light to this troubled world!

 

Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti.

 

Regards.

 

--Sanjay Aggarwal

 

-- In , Jose Rosa <master4114>

wrote:

> To All

>

> Here is an Article by Bob Hodgen

>

> Notes from Jose: I have learned that most of the world

> has been eating wrong and the medical community has

> been feeding us the wrong information.

>

> People are getting sicker and sicker all over the

> world and India is no exception mainly due to dietary

> habits based on mis-information.

>

> Beginning of Article

>

> The Paleolithic Diet By Bob Hodgen

>

> What is the Paleolithic Diet?

>

> For most of the million or so years our species has

> existed on Earth, we have been hunter-gatherers. Our

> ancestors hunted game and ate lots of meat. They also

> gathered whatever fruits, vegetables, nuts, and

> berries were in season. Being nomadic, they followed

> the sources of food and did not grow crops. Over

> many hundreds of thousands of years our ancestors

> became superbly adapted to this diet and lifestyle.

>

> Studies of 19th and 20th century hunter-gatherers show

> that they ate a lot of meat. On average, two thirds

> of their calories came from animal sources. Our early

> ancestors probably ate at least as much meat. They

> produced many cave paintings and pictographs of the

> animals they hunted and carved animal figures or

> totems. I can't remember seeing any cave paintings of

> fruit, grains, or vegetables. Among the oldest man

> made objects are stone spear points knives and axes.

> The evidence shows that they followed the herds

> and their lives revolved around hunting.

>

> The agricultural lifestyle came along about ten

> thousand years ago and spread around the world. In

> terms of genetics and our body's ability to adapt to

> dietary change, this is a very short time. The

> archeological record shows that there was a sharp

> decline in stature and health that went along with the

> change to the agricultrual diet and lifestyle. Early

> hunter-gatherers were 4 to 6 inches taller than early

> farmers. The hunters had stronger bones, fewer

> cavities, and, barring accident, they lived longer.

> Hunter-gatherers were rarely obese and had low rates

> of autoimmune diseases like arthritis and diabetes.

>

> In spite of overall poorer health the farmers took

> over the world. How did this happen? Hunter-gatherers

> have children, on average, only every 3 to 4 years,

> while farmers have theirs every 11 months. Hunting

> and gathering only works for small groups of people.

> Chiefdoms, kingdoms, and states only arose after the

> advent of farming. A few people could produce food for

> many. Those freed up from the day to day search

> for food could become artisans, soldiers, and

> bureaucrats. A thousand soldiers supported by ten

> thousand slaves toiling in the fields became the new

> super weapon. These guys could whip any band of hunter

>

> gatherers! The old time hunter-gatherers were simply

> out-organized and out-bred. As more and more land

> was converted into crops, the animals and those who

> still followed them were driven off and marginalized.

> By the 19th and 20th centuries we could only find

> hunter-gatherers in the deserts, jungles, and remote

> places like the arctic.

>

> In spite of civilization and ten thousand years of

> farming all of us still have the old hunter-gatherer

> DNA. There has not been enough time to adapt to our

> new diet. Studies of mitochondrial DNA show virtually

> no

> difference between the most diverse populations on the

> planet--groups which separated long before

> agriculture.

>

> We are not adapted to eat many of the agricultural

> foods in our present diet. Foods like bread, corn,

> beans, and potatoes. As a result many of us eventually

> become obese or become more likely to suffer

> from autoimmune diseases like diabetes, heart disease,

> arthritis, and allergies. We probably never will

> adapt because most of the time these ill effects hit

> us in middle age--after our children are raised.

>

> The ecological consequences of large scale agriculture

> are severe. Forests are cut down to make room

> for crops. Topsoil is washed or blown away. Today

> fertilizers and insecticides are dumped on the land by

>

> the ton to improve "yield." Runoff from the fields

> turns our rivers and bays toxic. The wild animals that

> once lived on the land are disappearing with nowhere

> left to go.

>

> The Diet:

>

> The rules of the Paleolithic Diet are simple: Only eat

> what was available to the early hunter-gatherers.

> Foods which are edible raw. All other foods should be

> avoided. In effect this is the factory specified diet.

>

>

> Do Eat: Meats and Fish, Fruits, Vegetables, Nuts,

> and Berries.

>

> Do Not Eat: Grains, Beans, Potatoes, Dairy, Sugar.

>

> On this diet you don't count calories or carbs. You

> eat when you're hungry and stop when you're full. I

> snack all the time on nuts and fruit. Any food of any

> kind from the "Do Eat" list is OK. All foods from the

> "Do Not Eat" category are strictly forbidden--no

> exceptions! It takes some will power at first, but

> after a week or two the cravings for the old foods go

> away.

>

> (see attachment for Food Pyramid)

>

> This diet pretty much turns the old "food pyramid"

> upside-down. But, it works. Look at the growing

> popularity of Atkins and other low carbohydrate diets.

> In spite of what the media pundits are saying, people

> are losing weight and feeling good on these diets. All

> of these diet plans restrict high carbohydrate foods

> like bread, refined sugar, and pasta. I think the

> Paleolithic Diet is what ties all the low carb diets

> together.

>

> It explains how they work from the perspective of

> evolution and genetics.

>

> It's hard to convince people that what they've been

> hearing about nutrition all their lives is wrong. Face

> it, we live in an agricultural society, and what we

> eat is a big part of our culture, politics, and even

> religion. This diet involves seeing the world from a

> new point of view. When you begin to question

> society's basic assumptions about food just about

> everything else deserves scrutiny. For us it's been a

> liberating

> experience.

>

> We can never return to the old hunter-gatherer

> lifestyle--I don't think many of us would want to.

> What we can do is learn to look at our diet from an

> evolutionary perspective. Decide which foods and

> practices we keep and which we throw away. It will

> change your life.

>

> End of Article

>

>

> --- sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology>

> wrote:

> > All:

> >

> > Just got in. I saw a bunch of emails. Was happy to

> > see some

> > responses on my "vegetarianism article". Thank you

> > one and all for

> > taking the time to read and responding.

> >

> > > Comming to the life force etc .. I dont think

> > plants

> > > have greater life force than Animals ... a apple

> > that

> > > is cut open rots quite fast too !!

> >

> > Let me elaborate some more on Life Force in plants.

> > Hope it makes

> > sense. And if does not...thats fine too ....:-).

> >

> > Plant material contains fire in many forms. Plants

> > are generally

> > combustible as in the case of wood, dry grass or

> > peat. Plant remains

> > in the Earth like oil and coal create our fossil

> > fuels, which are

> > our main energy sources today. Plants manifest fire

> > in the form of

> > color in a more evident way than the rocks,

> > particularly as flowers,

> > but also as colored fruit, bark and leaves. Fiery

> > plant derivatives

> > include spices, oils and resins that can burn. All

> > of these plant

> > qualities are new plays of Agni, new displays of our

> > own soul, which

> > finds a feminine beauty in the plant kingdom. The

> > plant kingdom

> > itself has many domains as trees, herbs, grasses,

> > lichens and mosses.

> >

> > Plants are also dwellings of the Gods, particularly

> > the Goddesses,

> > who dwell in flowers and herbs. The most developed

> > of plants is the

> > tree, which is the main plant form of Agni or the

> > soul. Trees are

> > the human beings in the plant kingdom and they carry

> > the energies of

> > the Gods who can descend into them. Trees mirror the

> > universal

> > process of the One being becoming many forms and

> > branches, which is

> > the image of the cosmic tree. That is why sacred

> > trees are common

> > objects of worship in ancient and nature-based

> > religions. Great

> > yogis and mystics have always frequented forests

> > where the plant

> > force and energy of peace acts as a powerful

> > catalyst for their

> > meditations.

> >

> > In Vedic thought, the fire that is naturally

> > produced through the

> > rubbing of the wood of certain sacred trees is

> > especially powerful.

> > It is the very life fire in manifestation, not

> > simply a material

> > fire. Through such a natural fire Divine forces can

> > descend into our

> > environment and purify them. In fact, all creatures

> > and all worlds

> > are essentially plant—that is, organisms which

> > contain fire and

> > convert sunlight or starlight into energy and

> > consciousness.

> >

> > The plant soul or Agni over time evolves into the

> > animal soul, which

> > produces a new abundance of mobile creatures. Agni

> > that woke in the

> > plants now moves in the form of the animals. The

> > animal realm brings

> > in several powerful new types of Agni.

> >

> > First is the digestive fire or fire in the belly

> > (Jatharagni) that

> > is able to digest food, whether of plant or animal

> > origin. While

> > plants passively get food from light, animals must

> > actively find it.

> > Each animal contains a zone of fire within it, a

> > digestive system

> > around which its physical body is built.

> >

> > In fact, in Vedic thought, the main animal

> > manifestation of Agni or

> > the soul is the cow. This is the basis of the sacred

> > cow in Hindu

> > culture. The cow symbolizes the nurturing force of

> > nature in general

> > that suckles and carries our soul or Agni. Another

> > important sacred

> > Agni animal is the horse, which manifests speed,

> > energy or Prana.

> >

> > While minerals manifest the earth fire and plants

> > manifest the water

> > fire, animals have a more `fiery fire', as it were.

> > In them fire is

> > quite impetuous and hard to tame or control. Animals

> > are like a wild

> > fire on the earth. Mammals, the most evolved of

> > animals, are very

> > fiery creatures. Their digestive fire is strong and

> > allows them to

> > live in cold climates (as opposed to reptiles that

> > are cold-

> > blooded). It produces a warm red blood, along with

> > powerful and

> > aggressive senses and great powers of movement and

> > adaptation.

> >

> >

> > Summarizing:

> > ============

> >

> > Generally, carnivores have stronger animal fires

> > than vegetarian

> > animals. It makes them more cunning but also more

> > prey to powerful

> > hunger and thirst.

> >

> > --->>>Those who look deeply into the forms of plant

> > kingdom can

> > discover their own soul and contact the Divine fire

> > working through

> > it.

> >

> > ""We have cultivated an artificial animal fire

> > through meat-eating,

> > the use of intoxicants, excessive sexuality and a

> > cult of aggression

> > and violence that pervades much of our culture

> > extending even to our

> > religions. Instead of using our higher intelligence

> > to breed a

> > higher human type, we have turned it into an

> > artificial cunning that

> > is destroying the very planet on which we live. We

> > have bred a human

> > species that is against both nature and the spirit,

> > trapped in a

> > world (a concrete jungle) not of spiritual

> > intelligence but of

> > artificial intelligence and artificial cravings.""

> >

> > So watch what you eat!!!! :-) (my views)

> >

> > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti.

> >

> > --Sanjay Aggarwal

> >

> > , surya

> > vishnubhotla

> > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > I totally accept that Vegtarian food is good and

> > leads

> > > to better mental tendencies. However I am not

> > totally

> > > for the idea that vegetarian food is a must for

> > > spiritual evolution ..

> > >

> > > there are sects of tantric cults where drinking

> > wine

> > > eating meat and having sex (under certain

> > stipulated

> > > conditions) that are supposed to take a person to

> > > spiritual high ...

> > >

> > > Comming to the life force etc .. I dont think

> > plants

> > > have greater life force than Animals ... a apple

> > that

> > > is cut open rots quite fast too !!

> > >

> > > "Hinduism is a way of life" ... truth is god and

> > his

> > > onness with everything else !

> > >

> > > Surya.

> > >

> > > --- "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> wrote:

> > > > Hi Sanjay.

> > > >

> > > > Remember that Hinduism is the truth.

> > > >

> > > > Regards!

> > > >

> > > > RC

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank You Sanjay for bringing out the importance of Agni or Jothi

within "SELF".

Here is an living example :

http://www.deathlessbody.org/SR.htm

 

 

 

---

-SG.

 

 

, "sanjaytechnology"

<sanjaytechnology> wrote:

> Dear Jose:

>

> > People are getting sicker and sicker all over the

> > world and India is no exception mainly due to dietary

> > habits based on mis-information

>

> So what is your point :-)? What do you derive from this article :-

)?

> Do you agree with the views portrayed in this article? This article

> fails to elighten people about the "Life Force" or any focus

towards

> it. The point of the discussion at all times revolves around

> the "SELF". The "SELF" or the manifestation of the "SELF" is the

> center of gravity of all discussions which take place over here.

> That gravity will ultimately pull us towards it into the never

> ending quest in the search of the infinite Cosmos

>

> Let me lay some more focus over here.

>

> As human beings, we are or should be the intelligence of fire. Fire

> was our first guru and guide in the infancy of our species. It

> taught us how to cook our food, how to forge metal and many other

> skills of early humanity. It taught us our first religion, our most

> ancient rituals, and functioned as our first doorway into the

cosmic

> mind. Today we need to return to that original fire spirit and

> discover its inner message.

>

> The human soul that should be the crowing glory of nature and the

> protector of the Earth is trampling and feeding upon the very

> animals, trampling upon the plants and even rocks through which it

> evolved and which are its mothers. This is because we have

forgotten

> our soul, our Agni, our flame portion of the Divine light. We have

> lost touch with our heart, our origin and our goal. Our

artificially

> cultivated ego has become our dominant motive force and it is fed

> with the dark fires of greed, lust and ambition. This is the

tragedy

> of our current civilization and the global crisis it has created.

> Instead of promoting the Divine light, we have created a false Agni

> or fire of consumerist desires that may end up destroying ourselves

> as well as our environment.

>

> We must learn to sublimate our fire from an ANIMAL to a DIVINE

> level. This is not to suppress it or try to put it out but to take

> it to a higher level of manifestation. It requires the fire of

> austerity and simplicity (tapas), recasting our lower base humanity

> into the pure goal of the enlightened nature.

>

> This Divine fire is born within all creatures as their soul and

> sense of Self. Notably, Agni unfolds the Lords of Dharma as the

> great Gods, Varuna and Mitra, who symbolize the truth principles of

> purity and compassion. Agni merges with the descending Vayu or

> electrical/lightning force of Indra (truth perception), which

> destroys all ignorance and brings the soul into the infinite.

>

> May that Agni awaken in you! May all human beings manifest the

> Divine Fire and restore the Divine Light to this troubled world!

>

> Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti.

>

> Regards.

>

> --Sanjay Aggarwal

>

> -- In , Jose Rosa <master4114>

> wrote:

> > To All

> >

> > Here is an Article by Bob Hodgen

> >

> > Notes from Jose: I have learned that most of the world

> > has been eating wrong and the medical community has

> > been feeding us the wrong information.

> >

> > People are getting sicker and sicker all over the

> > world and India is no exception mainly due to dietary

> > habits based on mis-information.

> >

> > Beginning of Article

> >

> > The Paleolithic Diet By Bob Hodgen

> >

> > What is the Paleolithic Diet?

> >

> > For most of the million or so years our species has

> > existed on Earth, we have been hunter-gatherers. Our

> > ancestors hunted game and ate lots of meat. They also

> > gathered whatever fruits, vegetables, nuts, and

> > berries were in season. Being nomadic, they followed

> > the sources of food and did not grow crops. Over

> > many hundreds of thousands of years our ancestors

> > became superbly adapted to this diet and lifestyle.

> >

> > Studies of 19th and 20th century hunter-gatherers show

> > that they ate a lot of meat. On average, two thirds

> > of their calories came from animal sources. Our early

> > ancestors probably ate at least as much meat. They

> > produced many cave paintings and pictographs of the

> > animals they hunted and carved animal figures or

> > totems. I can't remember seeing any cave paintings of

> > fruit, grains, or vegetables. Among the oldest man

> > made objects are stone spear points knives and axes.

> > The evidence shows that they followed the herds

> > and their lives revolved around hunting.

> >

> > The agricultural lifestyle came along about ten

> > thousand years ago and spread around the world. In

> > terms of genetics and our body's ability to adapt to

> > dietary change, this is a very short time. The

> > archeological record shows that there was a sharp

> > decline in stature and health that went along with the

> > change to the agricultrual diet and lifestyle. Early

> > hunter-gatherers were 4 to 6 inches taller than early

> > farmers. The hunters had stronger bones, fewer

> > cavities, and, barring accident, they lived longer.

> > Hunter-gatherers were rarely obese and had low rates

> > of autoimmune diseases like arthritis and diabetes.

> >

> > In spite of overall poorer health the farmers took

> > over the world. How did this happen? Hunter-gatherers

> > have children, on average, only every 3 to 4 years,

> > while farmers have theirs every 11 months. Hunting

> > and gathering only works for small groups of people.

> > Chiefdoms, kingdoms, and states only arose after the

> > advent of farming. A few people could produce food for

> > many. Those freed up from the day to day search

> > for food could become artisans, soldiers, and

> > bureaucrats. A thousand soldiers supported by ten

> > thousand slaves toiling in the fields became the new

> > super weapon. These guys could whip any band of hunter

> >

> > gatherers! The old time hunter-gatherers were simply

> > out-organized and out-bred. As more and more land

> > was converted into crops, the animals and those who

> > still followed them were driven off and marginalized.

> > By the 19th and 20th centuries we could only find

> > hunter-gatherers in the deserts, jungles, and remote

> > places like the arctic.

> >

> > In spite of civilization and ten thousand years of

> > farming all of us still have the old hunter-gatherer

> > DNA. There has not been enough time to adapt to our

> > new diet. Studies of mitochondrial DNA show virtually

> > no

> > difference between the most diverse populations on the

> > planet--groups which separated long before

> > agriculture.

> >

> > We are not adapted to eat many of the agricultural

> > foods in our present diet. Foods like bread, corn,

> > beans, and potatoes. As a result many of us eventually

> > become obese or become more likely to suffer

> > from autoimmune diseases like diabetes, heart disease,

> > arthritis, and allergies. We probably never will

> > adapt because most of the time these ill effects hit

> > us in middle age--after our children are raised.

> >

> > The ecological consequences of large scale agriculture

> > are severe. Forests are cut down to make room

> > for crops. Topsoil is washed or blown away. Today

> > fertilizers and insecticides are dumped on the land by

> >

> > the ton to improve "yield." Runoff from the fields

> > turns our rivers and bays toxic. The wild animals that

> > once lived on the land are disappearing with nowhere

> > left to go.

> >

> > The Diet:

> >

> > The rules of the Paleolithic Diet are simple: Only eat

> > what was available to the early hunter-gatherers.

> > Foods which are edible raw. All other foods should be

> > avoided. In effect this is the factory specified diet.

> >

> >

> > Do Eat: Meats and Fish, Fruits, Vegetables, Nuts,

> > and Berries.

> >

> > Do Not Eat: Grains, Beans, Potatoes, Dairy, Sugar.

> >

> > On this diet you don't count calories or carbs. You

> > eat when you're hungry and stop when you're full. I

> > snack all the time on nuts and fruit. Any food of any

> > kind from the "Do Eat" list is OK. All foods from the

> > "Do Not Eat" category are strictly forbidden--no

> > exceptions! It takes some will power at first, but

> > after a week or two the cravings for the old foods go

> > away.

> >

> > (see attachment for Food Pyramid)

> >

> > This diet pretty much turns the old "food pyramid"

> > upside-down. But, it works. Look at the growing

> > popularity of Atkins and other low carbohydrate diets.

> > In spite of what the media pundits are saying, people

> > are losing weight and feeling good on these diets. All

> > of these diet plans restrict high carbohydrate foods

> > like bread, refined sugar, and pasta. I think the

> > Paleolithic Diet is what ties all the low carb diets

> > together.

> >

> > It explains how they work from the perspective of

> > evolution and genetics.

> >

> > It's hard to convince people that what they've been

> > hearing about nutrition all their lives is wrong. Face

> > it, we live in an agricultural society, and what we

> > eat is a big part of our culture, politics, and even

> > religion. This diet involves seeing the world from a

> > new point of view. When you begin to question

> > society's basic assumptions about food just about

> > everything else deserves scrutiny. For us it's been a

> > liberating

> > experience.

> >

> > We can never return to the old hunter-gatherer

> > lifestyle--I don't think many of us would want to.

> > What we can do is learn to look at our diet from an

> > evolutionary perspective. Decide which foods and

> > practices we keep and which we throw away. It will

> > change your life.

> >

> > End of Article

> >

> >

> > --- sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology>

> > wrote:

> > > All:

> > >

> > > Just got in. I saw a bunch of emails. Was happy to

> > > see some

> > > responses on my "vegetarianism article". Thank you

> > > one and all for

> > > taking the time to read and responding.

> > >

> > > > Comming to the life force etc .. I dont think

> > > plants

> > > > have greater life force than Animals ... a apple

> > > that

> > > > is cut open rots quite fast too !!

> > >

> > > Let me elaborate some more on Life Force in plants.

> > > Hope it makes

> > > sense. And if does not...thats fine too ....:-).

> > >

> > > Plant material contains fire in many forms. Plants

> > > are generally

> > > combustible as in the case of wood, dry grass or

> > > peat. Plant remains

> > > in the Earth like oil and coal create our fossil

> > > fuels, which are

> > > our main energy sources today. Plants manifest fire

> > > in the form of

> > > color in a more evident way than the rocks,

> > > particularly as flowers,

> > > but also as colored fruit, bark and leaves. Fiery

> > > plant derivatives

> > > include spices, oils and resins that can burn. All

> > > of these plant

> > > qualities are new plays of Agni, new displays of our

> > > own soul, which

> > > finds a feminine beauty in the plant kingdom. The

> > > plant kingdom

> > > itself has many domains as trees, herbs, grasses,

> > > lichens and mosses.

> > >

> > > Plants are also dwellings of the Gods, particularly

> > > the Goddesses,

> > > who dwell in flowers and herbs. The most developed

> > > of plants is the

> > > tree, which is the main plant form of Agni or the

> > > soul. Trees are

> > > the human beings in the plant kingdom and they carry

> > > the energies of

> > > the Gods who can descend into them. Trees mirror the

> > > universal

> > > process of the One being becoming many forms and

> > > branches, which is

> > > the image of the cosmic tree. That is why sacred

> > > trees are common

> > > objects of worship in ancient and nature-based

> > > religions. Great

> > > yogis and mystics have always frequented forests

> > > where the plant

> > > force and energy of peace acts as a powerful

> > > catalyst for their

> > > meditations.

> > >

> > > In Vedic thought, the fire that is naturally

> > > produced through the

> > > rubbing of the wood of certain sacred trees is

> > > especially powerful.

> > > It is the very life fire in manifestation, not

> > > simply a material

> > > fire. Through such a natural fire Divine forces can

> > > descend into our

> > > environment and purify them. In fact, all creatures

> > > and all worlds

> > > are essentially plant—that is, organisms which

> > > contain fire and

> > > convert sunlight or starlight into energy and

> > > consciousness.

> > >

> > > The plant soul or Agni over time evolves into the

> > > animal soul, which

> > > produces a new abundance of mobile creatures. Agni

> > > that woke in the

> > > plants now moves in the form of the animals. The

> > > animal realm brings

> > > in several powerful new types of Agni.

> > >

> > > First is the digestive fire or fire in the belly

> > > (Jatharagni) that

> > > is able to digest food, whether of plant or animal

> > > origin. While

> > > plants passively get food from light, animals must

> > > actively find it.

> > > Each animal contains a zone of fire within it, a

> > > digestive system

> > > around which its physical body is built.

> > >

> > > In fact, in Vedic thought, the main animal

> > > manifestation of Agni or

> > > the soul is the cow. This is the basis of the sacred

> > > cow in Hindu

> > > culture. The cow symbolizes the nurturing force of

> > > nature in general

> > > that suckles and carries our soul or Agni. Another

> > > important sacred

> > > Agni animal is the horse, which manifests speed,

> > > energy or Prana.

> > >

> > > While minerals manifest the earth fire and plants

> > > manifest the water

> > > fire, animals have a more `fiery fire', as it were.

> > > In them fire is

> > > quite impetuous and hard to tame or control. Animals

> > > are like a wild

> > > fire on the earth. Mammals, the most evolved of

> > > animals, are very

> > > fiery creatures. Their digestive fire is strong and

> > > allows them to

> > > live in cold climates (as opposed to reptiles that

> > > are cold-

> > > blooded). It produces a warm red blood, along with

> > > powerful and

> > > aggressive senses and great powers of movement and

> > > adaptation.

> > >

> > >

> > > Summarizing:

> > > ============

> > >

> > > Generally, carnivores have stronger animal fires

> > > than vegetarian

> > > animals. It makes them more cunning but also more

> > > prey to powerful

> > > hunger and thirst.

> > >

> > > --->>>Those who look deeply into the forms of plant

> > > kingdom can

> > > discover their own soul and contact the Divine fire

> > > working through

> > > it.

> > >

> > > ""We have cultivated an artificial animal fire

> > > through meat-eating,

> > > the use of intoxicants, excessive sexuality and a

> > > cult of aggression

> > > and violence that pervades much of our culture

> > > extending even to our

> > > religions. Instead of using our higher intelligence

> > > to breed a

> > > higher human type, we have turned it into an

> > > artificial cunning that

> > > is destroying the very planet on which we live. We

> > > have bred a human

> > > species that is against both nature and the spirit,

> > > trapped in a

> > > world (a concrete jungle) not of spiritual

> > > intelligence but of

> > > artificial intelligence and artificial cravings.""

> > >

> > > So watch what you eat!!!! :-) (my views)

> > >

> > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti.

> > >

> > > --Sanjay Aggarwal

> > >

> > > , surya

> > > vishnubhotla

> > > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > >

> > > > I totally accept that Vegtarian food is good and

> > > leads

> > > > to better mental tendencies. However I am not

> > > totally

> > > > for the idea that vegetarian food is a must for

> > > > spiritual evolution ..

> > > >

> > > > there are sects of tantric cults where drinking

> > > wine

> > > > eating meat and having sex (under certain

> > > stipulated

> > > > conditions) that are supposed to take a person to

> > > > spiritual high ...

> > > >

> > > > Comming to the life force etc .. I dont think

> > > plants

> > > > have greater life force than Animals ... a apple

> > > that

> > > > is cut open rots quite fast too !!

> > > >

> > > > "Hinduism is a way of life" ... truth is god and

> > > his

> > > > onness with everything else !

> > > >

> > > > Surya.

> > > >

> > > > --- "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> wrote:

> > > > > Hi Sanjay.

> > > > >

> > > > > Remember that Hinduism is the truth.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards!

> > > > >

> > > > > RC

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> >

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