Vegetarianism -- Life Force in Plants--> Surya

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Dear Surya:

 

There is no question of support here. It is a personal view :-).

Your points and views are well respected.

 

What really counts is that you took the time to read what I posted.

Thanks for taking the time 2 read and responding.

 

Rgds.

 

--Sanjay Aggarwal

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> There can be no question to the fact that what you eat

> is very very determinant of how you think and feel ...

>

> A green plant shows the same resistance to burning as

> a animal .. and coal is formed collectively by animals

> and plants ... I wont argue agains vegetarianism ...

> However my personal view is that spiritual growth is

> not subject to any thing else but human will ...

> neither fate, nor food, nor the lack of both ... I am

> a strict vegitarian and would any day sing in chorus

> with you supporting it otherwise

>

> --- sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology>

> wrote:

> > All:

> >

> > Just got in. I saw a bunch of emails. Was happy to

> > see some

> > responses on my "vegetarianism article". Thank you

> > one and all for

> > taking the time to read and responding.

> >

> > > Comming to the life force etc .. I dont think

> > plants

> > > have greater life force than Animals ... a apple

> > that

> > > is cut open rots quite fast too !!

> >

> > Let me elaborate some more on Life Force in plants.

> > Hope it makes

> > sense. And if does not...thats fine too ....:-).

> >

> > Plant material contains fire in many forms. Plants

> > are generally

> > combustible as in the case of wood, dry grass or

> > peat. Plant remains

> > in the Earth like oil and coal create our fossil

> > fuels, which are

> > our main energy sources today. Plants manifest fire

> > in the form of

> > color in a more evident way than the rocks,

> > particularly as flowers,

> > but also as colored fruit, bark and leaves. Fiery

> > plant derivatives

> > include spices, oils and resins that can burn. All

> > of these plant

> > qualities are new plays of Agni, new displays of our

> > own soul, which

> > finds a feminine beauty in the plant kingdom. The

> > plant kingdom

> > itself has many domains as trees, herbs, grasses,

> > lichens and mosses.

> >

> > Plants are also dwellings of the Gods, particularly

> > the Goddesses,

> > who dwell in flowers and herbs. The most developed

> > of plants is the

> > tree, which is the main plant form of Agni or the

> > soul. Trees are

> > the human beings in the plant kingdom and they carry

> > the energies of

> > the Gods who can descend into them. Trees mirror the

> > universal

> > process of the One being becoming many forms and

> > branches, which is

> > the image of the cosmic tree. That is why sacred

> > trees are common

> > objects of worship in ancient and nature-based

> > religions. Great

> > yogis and mystics have always frequented forests

> > where the plant

> > force and energy of peace acts as a powerful

> > catalyst for their

> > meditations.

> >

> > In Vedic thought, the fire that is naturally

> > produced through the

> > rubbing of the wood of certain sacred trees is

> > especially powerful.

> > It is the very life fire in manifestation, not

> > simply a material

> > fire. Through such a natural fire Divine forces can

> > descend into our

> > environment and purify them. In fact, all creatures

> > and all worlds

> > are essentially plant—that is, organisms which

> > contain fire and

> > convert sunlight or starlight into energy and

> > consciousness.

> >

> > The plant soul or Agni over time evolves into the

> > animal soul, which

> > produces a new abundance of mobile creatures. Agni

> > that woke in the

> > plants now moves in the form of the animals. The

> > animal realm brings

> > in several powerful new types of Agni.

> >

> > First is the digestive fire or fire in the belly

> > (Jatharagni) that

> > is able to digest food, whether of plant or animal

> > origin. While

> > plants passively get food from light, animals must

> > actively find it.

> > Each animal contains a zone of fire within it, a

> > digestive system

> > around which its physical body is built.

> >

> > In fact, in Vedic thought, the main animal

> > manifestation of Agni or

> > the soul is the cow. This is the basis of the sacred

> > cow in Hindu

> > culture. The cow symbolizes the nurturing force of

> > nature in general

> > that suckles and carries our soul or Agni. Another

> > important sacred

> > Agni animal is the horse, which manifests speed,

> > energy or Prana.

> >

> > While minerals manifest the earth fire and plants

> > manifest the water

> > fire, animals have a more `fiery fire', as it were.

> > In them fire is

> > quite impetuous and hard to tame or control. Animals

> > are like a wild

> > fire on the earth. Mammals, the most evolved of

> > animals, are very

> > fiery creatures. Their digestive fire is strong and

> > allows them to

> > live in cold climates (as opposed to reptiles that

> > are cold-

> > blooded). It produces a warm red blood, along with

> > powerful and

> > aggressive senses and great powers of movement and

> > adaptation.

> >

> >

> > Summarizing:

> > ============

> >

> > Generally, carnivores have stronger animal fires

> > than vegetarian

> > animals. It makes them more cunning but also more

> > prey to powerful

> > hunger and thirst.

> >

> > --->>>Those who look deeply into the forms of plant

> > kingdom can

> > discover their own soul and contact the Divine fire

> > working through

> > it.

> >

> > ""We have cultivated an artificial animal fire

> > through meat-eating,

> > the use of intoxicants, excessive sexuality and a

> > cult of aggression

> > and violence that pervades much of our culture

> > extending even to our

> > religions. Instead of using our higher intelligence

> > to breed a

> > higher human type, we have turned it into an

> > artificial cunning that

> > is destroying the very planet on which we live. We

> > have bred a human

> > species that is against both nature and the spirit,

> > trapped in a

> > world (a concrete jungle) not of spiritual

> > intelligence but of

> > artificial intelligence and artificial cravings.""

> >

> > So watch what you eat!!!! :-) (my views)

> >

> > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti.

> >

> > --Sanjay Aggarwal

> >

> > , surya

> > vishnubhotla

> > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > I totally accept that Vegtarian food is good and

> > leads

> > > to better mental tendencies. However I am not

> > totally

> > > for the idea that vegetarian food is a must for

> > > spiritual evolution ..

> > >

> > > there are sects of tantric cults where drinking

> > wine

> > > eating meat and having sex (under certain

> > stipulated

> > > conditions) that are supposed to take a person to

> > > spiritual high ...

> > >

> > > Comming to the life force etc .. I dont think

> > plants

> > > have greater life force than Animals ... a apple

> > that

> > > is cut open rots quite fast too !!

> > >

> > > "Hinduism is a way of life" ... truth is god and

> > his

> > > onness with everything else !

> > >

> > > Surya.

> > >

> > > --- "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> wrote:

> > > > Hi Sanjay.

> > > >

> > > > Remember that Hinduism is the truth.

> > > >

> > > > Regards!

> > > >

> > > > RC

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

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Sanjay,

 

It's always good to talk and learn ... u took all the

time to post .. I guess I should thank you as well

 

--- sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology

wrote:

> Dear Surya:

>

> There is no question of support here. It is a

> personal view :-).

> Your points and views are well respected.

>

> What really counts is that you took the time to read

> what I posted.

> Thanks for taking the time 2 read and responding.

>

> Rgds.

>

> --Sanjay Aggarwal

>

> , surya

> vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Dear Sanjay,

> >

> > There can be no question to the fact that what you

> eat

> > is very very determinant of how you think and feel

> ...

> >

> > A green plant shows the same resistance to burning

> as

> > a animal .. and coal is formed collectively by

> animals

> > and plants ... I wont argue agains vegetarianism

> ...

> > However my personal view is that spiritual growth

> is

> > not subject to any thing else but human will ...

> > neither fate, nor food, nor the lack of both ... I

> am

> > a strict vegitarian and would any day sing in

> chorus

> > with you supporting it otherwise

> >

> > --- sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology>

> > wrote:

> > > All:

> > >

> > > Just got in. I saw a bunch of emails. Was happy

> to

> > > see some

> > > responses on my "vegetarianism article". Thank

> you

> > > one and all for

> > > taking the time to read and responding.

> > >

> > > > Comming to the life force etc .. I dont think

> > > plants

> > > > have greater life force than Animals ... a

> apple

> > > that

> > > > is cut open rots quite fast too !!

> > >

> > > Let me elaborate some more on Life Force in

> plants.

> > > Hope it makes

> > > sense. And if does not...thats fine too ....:-).

> > >

> > > Plant material contains fire in many forms.

> Plants

> > > are generally

> > > combustible as in the case of wood, dry grass or

> > > peat. Plant remains

> > > in the Earth like oil and coal create our fossil

> > > fuels, which are

> > > our main energy sources today. Plants manifest

> fire

> > > in the form of

> > > color in a more evident way than the rocks,

> > > particularly as flowers,

> > > but also as colored fruit, bark and leaves.

> Fiery

> > > plant derivatives

> > > include spices, oils and resins that can burn.

> All

> > > of these plant

> > > qualities are new plays of Agni, new displays of

> our

> > > own soul, which

> > > finds a feminine beauty in the plant kingdom.

> The

> > > plant kingdom

> > > itself has many domains as trees, herbs,

> grasses,

> > > lichens and mosses.

> > >

> > > Plants are also dwellings of the Gods,

> particularly

> > > the Goddesses,

> > > who dwell in flowers and herbs. The most

> developed

> > > of plants is the

> > > tree, which is the main plant form of Agni or

> the

> > > soul. Trees are

> > > the human beings in the plant kingdom and they

> carry

> > > the energies of

> > > the Gods who can descend into them. Trees mirror

> the

> > > universal

> > > process of the One being becoming many forms and

> > > branches, which is

> > > the image of the cosmic tree. That is why sacred

> > > trees are common

> > > objects of worship in ancient and nature-based

> > > religions. Great

> > > yogis and mystics have always frequented forests

> > > where the plant

> > > force and energy of peace acts as a powerful

> > > catalyst for their

> > > meditations.

> > >

> > > In Vedic thought, the fire that is naturally

> > > produced through the

> > > rubbing of the wood of certain sacred trees is

> > > especially powerful.

> > > It is the very life fire in manifestation, not

> > > simply a material

> > > fire. Through such a natural fire Divine forces

> can

> > > descend into our

> > > environment and purify them. In fact, all

> creatures

> > > and all worlds

> > > are essentially plant—that is, organisms which

> > > contain fire and

> > > convert sunlight or starlight into energy and

> > > consciousness.

> > >

> > > The plant soul or Agni over time evolves into

> the

> > > animal soul, which

> > > produces a new abundance of mobile creatures.

> Agni

> > > that woke in the

> > > plants now moves in the form of the animals. The

> > > animal realm brings

> > > in several powerful new types of Agni.

> > >

> > > First is the digestive fire or fire in the belly

> > > (Jatharagni) that

> > > is able to digest food, whether of plant or

> animal

> > > origin. While

> > > plants passively get food from light, animals

> must

> > > actively find it.

> > > Each animal contains a zone of fire within it, a

> > > digestive system

> > > around which its physical body is built.

> > >

> > > In fact, in Vedic thought, the main animal

> > > manifestation of Agni or

> > > the soul is the cow. This is the basis of the

> sacred

> > > cow in Hindu

> > > culture. The cow symbolizes the nurturing force

> of

> > > nature in general

> > > that suckles and carries our soul or Agni.

> Another

> > > important sacred

> > > Agni animal is the horse, which manifests speed,

> > > energy or Prana.

> > >

> > > While minerals manifest the earth fire and

> plants

> > > manifest the water

> > > fire, animals have a more `fiery fire', as it

> were.

> > > In them fire is

> > > quite impetuous and hard to tame or control.

> Animals

> > > are like a wild

> > > fire on the earth. Mammals, the most evolved of

> > > animals, are very

> > > fiery creatures. Their digestive fire is strong

> and

> > > allows them to

> > > live in cold climates (as opposed to reptiles

> that

> > > are cold-

> > > blooded). It produces a warm red blood, along

> with

> > > powerful and

> > > aggressive senses and great powers of movement

> and

> > > adaptation.

> > >

> > >

> > > Summarizing:

> > > ============

> > >

> > > Generally, carnivores have stronger animal fires

> > > than vegetarian

>

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