Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 You may see a lesser participation on as all my friends have been unable to access our grpup as Government has banned it and closed the gateway. It is so sad. I think we should make a temporary group in India Times or so. Rgds Hemant Trivedichaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, Your feedback has strengthened HP theory's simple and yet powerful concept. The jathaka died of heart attack on 22nd June 2002.(I had thought Surya bhukti followed by Guru bhukti to have killed him before you gave the death date, but your feedback shows more power to kaalant lord from Rahu) EXPLANATION: I have stated that 12th house is to be called KAALANT and 12th Lord to be called KAALANT lord. Hence in this KL horoscope, Rahu (As its dispositor becomes Maraka), Sun as 8th lord , Jupiter as 12th lord become very powerful Marakas. The person died of Heart attack on 22nd june 2002 HE WAS RUNNING, RAHU DASA HE WAS RUNNING , GURU BHUKTI HE WAS RUNNING GURU-GURU SUB-SUB HE HAD STARTED SURYA PRANANTARDASA ON 22ND JUNE 2002. Wonderful indeed. Thank you Sanjay....I think, with data available with me, and somemore feedbacks, we should be able to determine Maraka strength of Maraka sthanadhipathis. For the present it looks 12th, 8th, 2nd and 6th lords (All.... VM ) showing powerful marakatwa. Rgds Hemant TrivediSanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishiji, My apologies. I really have not been able to go very deep into HP theory, although I had spent some time on it. I plan to do it sometimes in near future. This person died on 22nd June, 2002 from a heart attack in the night at around 10:00PM-12:00 PM. I hope it helps in testing the theory. Please do let me know if I can answer any questions. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, I deeply appreciate promptness with which you have replied to my posting with a counter testing question. First thing is, You have not given yourself enough time to understand various factors leading to one's death as specified by me. Please give yourself atleast couple of hours to understand and apply the arguements . As such if time and other birth details are true, then this case is meant to be An Alpayur Yoga. The birth itself shows Balarishta Yoga. Second thing is, since we are testing a theory, it is always important to do BACKWARD ENGINEERING. You should , if you really do not understand HP or for that any other theory, give the date of demise and ask the question, why this person died in this dasa period. I am requesting all the discerning readers to please do this exercise. Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Enclosed details of a person who is no longer alive. Can you please tell when he died using this theory, I have not been able to figure this out successfully using my limited knowledge. 3 Feb 1972 Time: 21:30 PM New Delhi. Regards Sanjaychaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:END OF THE ROAD.::What begins has to come to an end. This is a journey of SHIVA tatwa till it reaches SHAVA stage. A body starts losing energy(E Kaar or Life force) immediately after being born.Life is thus Time bound. Life too has to come to an end.Vedic astrology has a lot of literature based on Parashara, Jaimini, and so many sidhhantas with their rules on Balarishta, Life-span calculations methods etc.Some of the methods are extremely complicated. While I have been working on Rahu, I have found that he is the only Planet called KALA or Time or Death.Rahu-Ketu signify beginning and End. No wonder Ketu is the only planet associated with Liberation of Atman and is known as MOKSHA KARAKA.So adhering to the principle of HP system,I formed the following theory.1) Since Rahu is the beginning, He should be placed in 1st house to indicate start of the Life's journey.2) This lagna with Rahu in it will be known as KAALA LAGNA or in short "KL". 2nd from Rahu will be KAALA MUKHA rasi and 12th from Rahu is KAALANTA Rasi (End of the road)(Actually it is sub division of VM)3) Planets in 2nd, 12 th from Rahu Ketu are termed as planets in VISHA MUKHA or simply VM.4) Follow Nakshatra dasa as usual (Presently) and apply other Parashara siddhhantas along with HP.I took up four cases for study which are Dirghayusya, Madhyayushaya, Balarishta and Alpayur yoga jatakas.The result , as usual is stunning.BABY (Balarishta) Infant Mortality case.Born : 24 sept. 2003 Bijapur Time..7.52 AM.Died : 30th Sept. 2003Cause of Death : Stomach problem Kidneys malformed.Janma Lagna : Tula KL: MeshaAquarius: Mars(Retro)Aries: RahuGemini: SaturnLeo: Jup, Moon, MercuryVirgo: Sun, VenusDasa at birth, Ketu-sani-Budhaa) Dasa Natha Ketu in 7th Maraka sthanam aspected by Rahub) Dispositor of Dasa Natha, Venus in Kaalanta in 12th from it.c)Jupiter, Moon and Mercury fully aspected by Rahu (Apasavya dristi)and also aspected by Saturn. Sun spoiled by being with 2nd and 7th lord and also aspected fully by Mars.d) Moon spoiled by Jupiter, the KAALANTA lord and Mercury the 3rd and 6th lord.RESULT...Child died on 6th day as predicted by me.Cause of Death : Stomach problem ,Kidneys malformed.No urinary tract was formed.DIRGHAYU JATAKAMale:Born: 15th December 1892 at Rajkot 1.22 pmJanma Lagna: PiscesKL : AriesRahu : AriesSaturn : VirgoKetu : LibraMoon : LibraVenus : LibraMercury : scorpioMars : AquariusJupiter : PiscesDasa At Birth: Rahu DasaExpired in 1982 NovemberDasa at the time of Death : Moon-Rahu-Guru.Mark Dasa Lord Moon in 7th with Venus another Maraka Mark SEPERATOR Ketu also spoiling Moon and venus.Mark sub dasa lord Rahu in 7th from Dasa Natha.Mark Kaalanta lord Mercury in Ayushya sthana in 8th.Mark sub-sub dasa lord Guru in KAALANT RASI aspected by Saturn.RESULT: The jathaka expired at ripe old age crossing 90 and odd years in MOON-RAHU-JUPITER periodMIDDLE AGE (Madhyayu)MaleBorn 4.8.1944Janma Lagna : VirgoKL : CancerSun,Rahu, Venus : Cancer Merc,Jup,Mars : LeoMoon, Ketu : CapricornSaturn : GeminiDasa at Birth : MoonDasa at the time of Death : Saturn-Venus-Saturn-Ketu on 19th May 1999Mark Saturn becoming lord of 7th and 8th house in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th of KL.Mark Bhukti lord Venus in VM with 2nd Maraka lord Sun in 2nd from Saturn.Mark sub-sub also in same position.Jupiter , the Jeeva in maraka 2nd house with Mars aspected by Saturn from Kaalanta Rasi.Moon the Jeeva, Sun , the Atma and Ascendent are all spoiled beyond repair.The Jataka died of Cancer of Mouth. Mark evil combinations in KL and 2nd from KL.DEATH BY ACCIDENT;MALE20.6.1950Janma Lagna : CapricornKL,Rahu : Capricorn Venus : TaurusSun,Merc : GeminiSaturn : LeoMars, Ketu : VirgoMoon : ScorpioDasa at Birth : MercuryDasa at time of Death: Moon-Rahu-Saturn-Ketu on 22.2.1986Mark Dasa natha in Debilitation aspected by 7th and 8th lords.Mark Dasa natha Moon aspected by Rahu by reverse aspect.Lagna Lord Jupiter in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th aspected by Kaalanta Lord Saturn.Sub dasa lord Rahu aspected by Mars and its dispositor Guru in 12th in Kaalanta.Both sub-sub and sub-sub-sub lords Saturn and Ketu are spoiled by aspect and association.RESULT: The jathaka died of car accident on 22.2.1986 Thus, I have tried to prove HP theory principles working in determination of MRITYU KARAKAS and Maraka periods.I welcome readers who have similar horoscopes with them , to try and apply HP principles to check if they hold water in other cases.I am trying out yet another form of Dasa which may hold the key to a lot of aspects of life including THE DEATH.That , I will touch upon in days to come.To be contd......RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH: ~! 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 hi, try the following for getting access to http://www.anonymizer.com Neeraj --- chaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal wrote: > Hello Friends, > You may see a lesser participation on as > all my friends have been unable to access our > grpup as Government has banned it and closed the > gateway. > It is so sad. > I think we should make a temporary group in India > Times or so. > Rgds > Hemant Trivedi > > chaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal wrote: > Hello Sanjay, > Your feedback has strengthened HP theory's simple > and yet powerful concept. > The jathaka died of heart attack on 22nd June > 2002.(I had thought Surya bhukti followed by Guru > bhukti to have killed him before you gave the death > date, but your feedback shows more power to kaalant > lord from Rahu) > > EXPLANATION: I have stated that 12th house is to be > called KAALANT and 12th Lord to be called KAALANT > lord. > Hence in this KL horoscope, Rahu (As its dispositor > becomes Maraka), Sun as 8th lord , Jupiter as 12th > lord become very powerful Marakas. > The person died of Heart attack on 22nd june 2002 > > HE WAS RUNNING, RAHU DASA > HE WAS RUNNING , GURU BHUKTI > HE WAS RUNNING GURU-GURU SUB-SUB > HE HAD STARTED SURYA PRANANTARDASA ON 22ND JUNE > 2002. > > Wonderful indeed. > Thank you Sanjay....I think, with data available > with me, and somemore feedbacks, we should be able > to determine Maraka strength of Maraka > sthanadhipathis. > For the present it looks 12th, 8th, 2nd and 6th > lords (All.... VM ) showing powerful marakatwa. > Rgds > Hemant Trivedi > > Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony wrote: > Harishiji, > > My apologies. I really have not been able to go very > deep into HP theory, although I had spent some time > on it. I plan to do it sometimes in near future. > This person died on 22nd June, 2002 from a heart > attack in the night at around 10:00PM-12:00 PM. > > I hope it helps in testing the theory. Please do let > me know if I can answer any questions. > > Regards > Sanjay > > chaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal wrote: > Hello Sanjay, > > I deeply appreciate promptness with which you have > replied to my posting with a counter testing > question. > > First thing is, > You have not given yourself enough time to > understand various factors leading to one's death as > specified by me. > Please give yourself atleast couple of hours to > understand and apply the arguements . > As such if time and other birth details are true, > then this case is meant to be An Alpayur Yoga. > The birth itself shows Balarishta Yoga. > > Second thing is, > since we are testing a theory, it is always > important to do BACKWARD ENGINEERING. > You should , if you really do not understand HP or > for that any other theory, give the date of demise > and ask the question, why this person died in this > dasa period. > I am requesting all the discerning readers to please > do this exercise. > Rgds > Hemant Trivedi > > Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony wrote: > Enclosed details of a person who is no longer alive. > Can you please tell when he died using this theory, > I have not been able to figure this out successfully > using my limited knowledge. > > 3 Feb 1972 > Time: 21:30 PM > New Delhi. > > > Regards > > Sanjay > > chaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal wrote: > RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH: > > END OF THE ROAD.:: > > What begins has to come to an end. This is a journey > of SHIVA tatwa > till it reaches SHAVA stage. A body starts losing > energy(E Kaar or > Life force) immediately after being born. > Life is thus Time bound. Life too has to come to an > end. > > Vedic astrology has a lot of literature based on > Parashara, Jaimini, > and so many sidhhantas with their rules on > Balarishta, Life-span > calculations methods etc. > Some of the methods are extremely complicated. > > While I have been working on Rahu, I have found that > he is the only > Planet called KALA or Time or Death. > > Rahu-Ketu signify beginning and End. > No wonder Ketu is the only planet associated with > Liberation of Atman > and is known as MOKSHA KARAKA. > > So adhering to the principle of HP system,I formed > the following > theory. > > 1) Since Rahu is the beginning, He should be placed > in 1st house to > indicate start of the Life's journey. > > 2) This lagna with Rahu in it will be known as KAALA > LAGNA or in > short "KL". 2nd from Rahu will be KAALA MUKHA > rasi and 12th from > Rahu is KAALANTA Rasi (End of the road)(Actually > it is sub > division of VM) > > 3) Planets in 2nd, 12 th from Rahu Ketu are termed > as planets in > VISHA MUKHA or simply VM. > > 4) Follow Nakshatra dasa as usual (Presently) and > apply other > Parashara siddhhantas along with HP. > > I took up four cases for study which are > Dirghayusya, Madhyayushaya, > Balarishta and Alpayur yoga jatakas. > The result , as usual is stunning. > > BABY (Balarishta) Infant Mortality case. > > Born : 24 sept. 2003 Bijapur Time..7.52 AM. > Died : 30th Sept. 2003 > Cause of Death : Stomach problem Kidneys malformed. > > Janma Lagna : Tula > KL: Mesha > Aquarius: Mars(Retro) > Aries: Rahu > Gemini: Saturn > Leo: Jup, Moon, Mercury > Virgo: Sun, Venus > > Dasa at birth, Ketu-sani-Budha > > a) Dasa Natha Ketu in 7th Maraka sthanam aspected by > Rahu > b) Dispositor of Dasa Natha, Venus in Kaalanta in > 12th from it. > > c)Jupiter, Moon and Mercury fully aspected by Rahu > (Apasavya dristi) > and also aspected by Saturn. Sun spoiled by being > with 2nd and 7th > lord and also aspected fully by Mars. > d) Moon spoiled by Jupiter, the KAALANTA lord and > Mercury the 3rd and > 6th lord. > > RESULT...Child died on 6th day as predicted by me. > > Cause of Death : Stomach problem ,Kidneys malformed. > No urinary tract was formed. > > > DIRGHAYU JATAKA > > Male: > === message truncated === ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Is this so ? But why Government should ban ? From when it is going to get implemented ? Anil - chaturth kaal Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:32 AM VSNL Has banned Hello Friends, You may see a lesser participation on as all my friends have been unable to access our grpup as Government has banned it and closed the gateway. It is so sad. I think we should make a temporary group in India Times or so. Rgds Hemant Trivedichaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, Your feedback has strengthened HP theory's simple and yet powerful concept. The jathaka died of heart attack on 22nd June 2002.(I had thought Surya bhukti followed by Guru bhukti to have killed him before you gave the death date, but your feedback shows more power to kaalant lord from Rahu) EXPLANATION: I have stated that 12th house is to be called KAALANT and 12th Lord to be called KAALANT lord. Hence in this KL horoscope, Rahu (As its dispositor becomes Maraka), Sun as 8th lord , Jupiter as 12th lord become very powerful Marakas. The person died of Heart attack on 22nd june 2002 HE WAS RUNNING, RAHU DASA HE WAS RUNNING , GURU BHUKTI HE WAS RUNNING GURU-GURU SUB-SUB HE HAD STARTED SURYA PRANANTARDASA ON 22ND JUNE 2002. Wonderful indeed. Thank you Sanjay....I think, with data available with me, and somemore feedbacks, we should be able to determine Maraka strength of Maraka sthanadhipathis. For the present it looks 12th, 8th, 2nd and 6th lords (All.... VM ) showing powerful marakatwa. Rgds Hemant TrivediSanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishiji, My apologies. I really have not been able to go very deep into HP theory, although I had spent some time on it. I plan to do it sometimes in near future. This person died on 22nd June, 2002 from a heart attack in the night at around 10:00PM-12:00 PM. I hope it helps in testing the theory. Please do let me know if I can answer any questions. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, I deeply appreciate promptness with which you have replied to my posting with a counter testing question. First thing is, You have not given yourself enough time to understand various factors leading to one's death as specified by me. Please give yourself atleast couple of hours to understand and apply the arguements . As such if time and other birth details are true, then this case is meant to be An Alpayur Yoga. The birth itself shows Balarishta Yoga. Second thing is, since we are testing a theory, it is always important to do BACKWARD ENGINEERING. You should , if you really do not understand HP or for that any other theory, give the date of demise and ask the question, why this person died in this dasa period. I am requesting all the discerning readers to please do this exercise. Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Enclosed details of a person who is no longer alive. Can you please tell when he died using this theory, I have not been able to figure this out successfully using my limited knowledge. 3 Feb 1972 Time: 21:30 PM New Delhi. Regards Sanjaychaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:END OF THE ROAD.::What begins has to come to an end. This is a journey of SHIVA tatwa till it reaches SHAVA stage. A body starts losing energy(E Kaar or Life force) immediately after being born.Life is thus Time bound. Life too has to come to an end.Vedic astrology has a lot of literature based on Parashara, Jaimini, and so many sidhhantas with their rules on Balarishta, Life-span calculations methods etc.Some of the methods are extremely complicated. While I have been working on Rahu, I have found that he is the only Planet called KALA or Time or Death.Rahu-Ketu signify beginning and End. No wonder Ketu is the only planet associated with Liberation of Atman and is known as MOKSHA KARAKA.So adhering to the principle of HP system,I formed the following theory.1) Since Rahu is the beginning, He should be placed in 1st house to indicate start of the Life's journey.2) This lagna with Rahu in it will be known as KAALA LAGNA or in short "KL". 2nd from Rahu will be KAALA MUKHA rasi and 12th from Rahu is KAALANTA Rasi (End of the road)(Actually it is sub division of VM)3) Planets in 2nd, 12 th from Rahu Ketu are termed as planets in VISHA MUKHA or simply VM.4) Follow Nakshatra dasa as usual (Presently) and apply other Parashara siddhhantas along with HP.I took up four cases for study which are Dirghayusya, Madhyayushaya, Balarishta and Alpayur yoga jatakas.The result , as usual is stunning.BABY (Balarishta) Infant Mortality case.Born : 24 sept. 2003 Bijapur Time..7.52 AM.Died : 30th Sept. 2003Cause of Death : Stomach problem Kidneys malformed.Janma Lagna : Tula KL: MeshaAquarius: Mars(Retro)Aries: RahuGemini: SaturnLeo: Jup, Moon, MercuryVirgo: Sun, VenusDasa at birth, Ketu-sani-Budhaa) Dasa Natha Ketu in 7th Maraka sthanam aspected by Rahub) Dispositor of Dasa Natha, Venus in Kaalanta in 12th from it.c)Jupiter, Moon and Mercury fully aspected by Rahu (Apasavya dristi)and also aspected by Saturn. Sun spoiled by being with 2nd and 7th lord and also aspected fully by Mars.d) Moon spoiled by Jupiter, the KAALANTA lord and Mercury the 3rd and 6th lord.RESULT...Child died on 6th day as predicted by me.Cause of Death : Stomach problem ,Kidneys malformed.No urinary tract was formed.DIRGHAYU JATAKAMale:Born: 15th December 1892 at Rajkot 1.22 pmJanma Lagna: PiscesKL : AriesRahu : AriesSaturn : VirgoKetu : LibraMoon : LibraVenus : LibraMercury : scorpioMars : AquariusJupiter : PiscesDasa At Birth: Rahu DasaExpired in 1982 NovemberDasa at the time of Death : Moon-Rahu-Guru.Mark Dasa Lord Moon in 7th with Venus another Maraka Mark SEPERATOR Ketu also spoiling Moon and venus.Mark sub dasa lord Rahu in 7th from Dasa Natha.Mark Kaalanta lord Mercury in Ayushya sthana in 8th.Mark sub-sub dasa lord Guru in KAALANT RASI aspected by Saturn.RESULT: The jathaka expired at ripe old age crossing 90 and odd years in MOON-RAHU-JUPITER periodMIDDLE AGE (Madhyayu)MaleBorn 4.8.1944Janma Lagna : VirgoKL : CancerSun,Rahu, Venus : Cancer Merc,Jup,Mars : LeoMoon, Ketu : CapricornSaturn : GeminiDasa at Birth : MoonDasa at the time of Death : Saturn-Venus-Saturn-Ketu on 19th May 1999Mark Saturn becoming lord of 7th and 8th house in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th of KL.Mark Bhukti lord Venus in VM with 2nd Maraka lord Sun in 2nd from Saturn.Mark sub-sub also in same position.Jupiter , the Jeeva in maraka 2nd house with Mars aspected by Saturn from Kaalanta Rasi.Moon the Jeeva, Sun , the Atma and Ascendent are all spoiled beyond repair.The Jataka died of Cancer of Mouth. Mark evil combinations in KL and 2nd from KL.DEATH BY ACCIDENT;MALE20.6.1950Janma Lagna : CapricornKL,Rahu : Capricorn Venus : TaurusSun,Merc : GeminiSaturn : LeoMars, Ketu : VirgoMoon : ScorpioDasa at Birth : MercuryDasa at time of Death: Moon-Rahu-Saturn-Ketu on 22.2.1986Mark Dasa natha in Debilitation aspected by 7th and 8th lords.Mark Dasa natha Moon aspected by Rahu by reverse aspect.Lagna Lord Jupiter in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th aspected by Kaalanta Lord Saturn.Sub dasa lord Rahu aspected by Mars and its dispositor Guru in 12th in Kaalanta.Both sub-sub and sub-sub-sub lords Saturn and Ketu are spoiled by aspect and association.RESULT: The jathaka died of car accident on 22.2.1986 Thus, I have tried to prove HP theory principles working in determination of MRITYU KARAKAS and Maraka periods.I welcome readers who have similar horoscopes with them , to try and apply HP principles to check if they hold water in other cases.I am trying out yet another form of Dasa which may hold the key to a lot of aspects of life including THE DEATH.That , I will touch upon in days to come.To be contd......RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH: ~! 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