Ultimate bhava ---> Manas

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His Asc is actually Cancer and his 12th lord mercury is the 8th along with 2nd

lord sun. No wonder he made such advancement in spiritualism in a society,

which still thinks man is a one-life animal.

 

My yesterday's post was full of errors as it was late in the night and I do get

"dyslexic" at times (guess it happens with everyone).

 

My further apologies to the group. However, I guess the key messages I had to

convey are still valid. Please focus on the judgemental aspects of this post

and ignore the errors.

 

Niranjan Rao <occult_oracle (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Apologies...AK occupies the house of kuja (mars) in both cases. This only

indicates a difficult path.Niranjan Rao <occult_oracle (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Okay, a very brief analysis...

 

Yogoda:

Leo Asc. Moon the lord of 12th house is in 12th position from the 12th house.

i.e., the lord of moksha bhava occupies the lagna or 1st house. This indicates

freedom from the cycle of re-birth. Also, as Yogoda himself narrates in his

autobiography, that he had taken birth again as a yogi only to complete his

journey to the abode of God. His AK is Venus (4th house). It can be observed

that moksha karaka ketu is in 12 position from AK.

 

Chaitanya Mahaprabhu:

This is a much better example, because this was the Almighty himself in human incarnation.

Again Leo Asc. Moon in the lagna. But moksha karaka ketu has eclipsed the moon,

indicating the non-existance of birth cycle. In this case AK is Saturn (4th

house). As in Yogoda's chart, we can observe that the AK occupies the house of

Ketu.

 

Ron Hubbard (of scientology fame):

I also had a quick look Ron's rashi chart on your request. His 12th lord is in

3rd house. The lord of Asc is situated in own house and there by strengthening

it. I did not spend much time on this. (Sorry! I will leave it to you to

explore)

 

 

Further D-9, D-24, and D-20 give the source and nature of the journey toward

paramatma. D-9 is for the accomplishments of life...D-24 denotes education and

D-24 shows the spiritual evolution.

 

Hindus believe that there are three paths or "maarga" ot attain bliss.

- Gyana maarga

- Bhakti maarga

- Yoga maarga

 

I will post on the source and nature in detail at a later date.

 

Best wishes,

Niranjan

 

Manas Kumar <manaskumar (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Niranjan saheb,Yoganandji would be undoubtedly a good candidate where

mokshaprapti does not sound far-fetched and so should strongly indicate the

factors in this case. 5 January 1893, 20:38 hrs (LMT), Gorakhpur, U.P.,

IndiaYou are also right when you state that interpretations could differ and

indeed we see this happen quite often. I therefore try to avoid re-engineering,

as they say, interpretations given by others. Using this chart as an example, I

hope you would take some time and point out the specific strong factor/factors

that indicate liberation in Swamiji's chart using the 12th house in rashi chart

(or others that you prefer).Another spiritually interesting chart is of the male

nativity:13 March 1811, 2:01 AM CST, Tilden, Nebraska, USAHardly in the same

league as the famous Paramahansa Yoganandji, but what

does this chart indicate, using the 12th house parameters and liberation?Thanks

for your time and effort given to this tutorial.MKu--- In

, Niranjan Rao wrote:> In general it is seen

from 12th house in rashi chart. Eg: Ketu aspecting the 12th etc..so on.> > You

can also look into the amsa or D charts for specifics. However the opinions

vary depending different schools of thought. Some people prefer to use AK,

while some others prefer to use navamsa, as they think "liberation" is one of

the "bhagya" of human life. My personal preference is to look from AK ..as it

agrees with the results of 12th bhava.> > As long as we remember that astrology

is an empirical science and that the judgements of different astrogers need not

agree, this science will not suffer. > > Paramahamsa Yogananda is known to be

the most studied

yogi in the modern era. Just like other aspects his life, his birth charts are

also documented in detail. It comes highly recomended as gives the detailed

account on this topic. > > Best wishes,> Niranjan> > Manas Kumar wrote:> would

the matters surrounding 'liberation' be learned from the 12th > bhava in rashi,

or navamsha, vimshamsha or 12th from atmakaraka or > arudha? Not all of these

12th houses can possibly give the true > story about liberation. If they can,

then astrology kind of looses > its 'specificity' and some critics do maintain

that that is indeed > the case, hence so many different interpretations of the

same chart > or yogadi work!> > ,

"occult_oracle" > wrote:> > Manasji,> > > > I agree. Each horoscope is unique.

But I guess the question was > >

generic.> > > > My interpretation of the question was as follows:> > > >

"Utimate truth" is the "ulimate destiny" or "ulitmate bliss". It > is > >

linked to the liberation of the soul. The 12th house in a > horoscope > > tells

us about this.> > > > Best wishes,> > Niranjan> > > > --- In

, "Manas Kumar" > > wrote:> > > There is a poll

at this site for the 'ultimate bhava'. Only the > 12 > > > rashi bhavas are

indicated there, so the poll would not allow > for > > > other considerations

such as:> > > > > > bhavas in amshas> > > padas> > > bhavas that hold the

ultimate dispositor> > > bhavas that hold the key planet in a horoscope and it

is neither > > > chandra, lagnesha or atmakaraka,

etc -- necessarily or always> > > bhavas that hold the karaka for one of the

three planes that a > > > horoscope indicates in consonance with human

reality.> > > > > > ...> > > > > > etc.> > > > > > As long as we remember that

when voting.> > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ >

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