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Respected Triptika ji,

 

You are absolutely right, and that's why if you want to appease

Jupiter , avoid any form of sacrilege of the banana fruit. As regards

the banana plant in the north India , it is considered clean too ,

but is planted away from the house. The general explanation given is

that it breeds snakes.

 

The general remedies reccomended in traditional astrology are either

chanting mantra , or a jaap , fasting , etc which are so religion

specific. They might come naturally to a hindu , but some one not

brought up with that tradition may not find them very easy to do , or

may not have similar feeling as a hindu would. Secondly these

remedies are long , time consuming and tedious , ten mala jaap , 108

recitations of a long mantra for months. The lal Kitab remedies are

every day remedies evolved through centuries old folk wisdom.Lal

Kitab remedies are not religion specific.

 

with lots of regards,

 

bhuwan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "triptika" <triptika@h...>

wrote:

> i am a bit surprised about this ' banana' remedy. generally bananas

are essential part of Shri Vishnu/ Narayan pooja and Shri Vishnu and

Devguru Brihaspati are always linked together. without banana leaves

pooja mandap is not complete and generally bananas are part

of 'prasad'.whenever thursday fast is advised for pleasing Jupiter--

worshiping Banana tree is must. it is commonest remedy suggested for

marriage purpose to girls. but if i am not wrong...fruits of such

banana tree are not eaten which is used for worship by the girl and

family.

>

> i have never read Lal Kitab so i can not comment on this angle but

traditionally bananas make integral part in Indian socio cultural

canvas. in many states of India like Kerala, Tamilnadu, Bengal ; a

banana tree is always found in every home, offcourse not inside the

home. in Kali mandir i always get 'Shirni' prasad made of milk,

bananas, dry fruits and sugar etc on every SatyaNarayan pooja as well

as on ' Bara Thakur' [shani Dev] pooja.

>

> i don't know what do you mean by 'secular remedy', kindly explain.

>

> thanks and regards,

> -

> bhuwanvashishtha

>

> Monday, March 15, 2004 9:58 PM

> Re: Jupitor remedies >>> explained @ Lal Kitab

>

>

> Respected members,

>

> Tanvir bhai has rightly said that if you have to propitiate

Jupiter ,

> you must not have a banana plant in the house , try avoid eating

> banana fruit and have plants with yellow flowers inside of the

house.

> According to the Lal Kitab , which gives secular remedies ,

banana

> plant is an object associated with Mercury . We all know that

Jupiter

> and Mercury are enemies. Now you can not appease Jupiter by

having

> its enemy in the house , it is simple. Next the banana fruit ,

Lal

> Kitab associates it with Ketu . The relationship of Ketu and

Jupiter

> is one of chela and guru , Ketu is a chela of Jupiter , therefore

> avoid eating the chela otherwise you might annoy the guru instead

of

> appeasing him. And finally the yellow flowering plants. Yellow is

the

> colour for Jupiter , and by having yellow flower plants in the

> house , we are trying to establish Jupiter in the 4th house, our

> home. And we all know that Jupiter is at its most benefic in the

4th

> house , better than even in the 9th. Now it explains the entire

> rationale of remedies based on the centuries old traditional

wisdom .

>

> With lots of respect and regards to the learned here.

>

> bhuwan

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kindly don't prefix 'respected' to my name..i don;t deserve this. thanks for

your clarification...i too belong to north India but never heard that a banana

tree is shelter for snakes.but sure it is not a common tree planted in home

gardens like south. i dont know why Lal Kitab forbids use of this fruit while

it is part of hindu pooja samagrees.how come it is considered 'sacrilege'.

also i am surprised that we want choicest things, which actually are denied from

destiny..we want God to change His mind but for ourselves..find short cuts.

repeating His name even 108 times is a burden?????? i am confused, so it is

better that i stick to my old beliefs instead being ' neem hakim, khatraye

jaan'...

 

with best regards,

-

bhuwanvashishtha

 

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:45 PM

Re: secular remedies >>> triptika ji

Respected Triptika ji,You are absolutely right, and that's why if you want to

appease Jupiter , avoid any form of sacrilege of the banana fruit. As regards

the banana plant in the north India , it is considered clean too , but is

planted away from the house. The general explanation given is that it breeds

snakes.The general remedies reccomended in traditional astrology are either

chanting mantra , or a jaap , fasting , etc which are so religion specific.

They might come naturally to a hindu , but some one not brought up with that

tradition may not find them very easy to do , or may not have similar feeling

as a hindu would. Secondly these remedies are long , time consuming and tedious

, ten mala jaap , 108 recitations of a long mantra for months. The lal Kitab

remedies are every day remedies evolved through centuries old folk wisdom.Lal

Kitab remedies are not religion specific.with lots of regards,bhuwan--- In

, "triptika" <triptika@h...> wrote:> i am a bit

surprised about this ' banana' remedy. generally bananas are essential part of

Shri Vishnu/ Narayan pooja and Shri Vishnu and Devguru Brihaspati are always

linked together. without banana leaves pooja mandap is not complete and

generally bananas are part of 'prasad'.whenever thursday fast is advised for

pleasing Jupiter-- worshiping Banana tree is must. it is commonest remedy

suggested for marriage purpose to girls. but if i am not wrong...fruits of such

banana tree are not eaten which is used for worship by the girl and family.> > i

have never read Lal Kitab so i can not comment on this angle but traditionally

bananas make integral part in Indian socio cultural canvas. in many states of

India like Kerala, Tamilnadu, Bengal ; a banana tree is always found in every

home, offcourse not inside the home. in Kali mandir i always get 'Shirni'

prasad made of milk, bananas, dry fruits and sugar etc on every SatyaNarayan

pooja as well as on ' Bara Thakur' [shani Dev] pooja.> > i don't know what do

you mean by 'secular remedy', kindly explain. > > thanks and regards,> -----

Original Message ----- > bhuwanvashishtha > To:

> Monday, March 15, 2004 9:58 PM>

Re: Jupitor remedies >>> explained @ Lal Kitab> > > Respected

members,> > Tanvir bhai has rightly said that if you have to propitiate

Jupiter , > you must not have a banana plant in the house , try avoid eating

> banana fruit and have plants with yellow flowers inside of the house. >

According to the Lal Kitab , which gives secular remedies , banana > plant is

an object associated with Mercury . We all know that Jupiter > and Mercury are

enemies. Now you can not appease Jupiter by having > its enemy in the house ,

it is simple. Next the banana fruit , Lal > Kitab associates it with Ketu .

The relationship of Ketu and Jupiter > is one of chela and guru , Ketu is a

chela of Jupiter , therefore > avoid eating the chela otherwise you might

annoy the guru instead of > appeasing him. And finally the yellow flowering

plants. Yellow is the > colour for Jupiter , and by having yellow flower

plants in the > house , we are trying to establish Jupiter in the 4th house,

our > home. And we all know that Jupiter is at its most benefic in the 4th >

house , better than even in the 9th. Now it explains the entire > rationale

of remedies based on the centuries old traditional wisdom .> > With lots of

respect and regards to the learned here.> > bhuwan~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE

FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

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