Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 namaskar. you are right that conflicting gemstones are better not worn together. However, if one is required to wear them simultaneously for jyotish purposes, then it is best at the least- to wear them in different hands or around the neck and hands (hands will faster and stronger results, apparantly). Another way to do it is to wear the stone covered in a cloth on the "other" upper arm, around your biceps. Once again, any gem(s) to have desired results, must be worn in proper ceremonial time, place, tithi, and ritual. hope this helps; Gaurav jain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear Gaurav, Guru Chandrashekhar Ji clarified it very beautifully, as per shastras it is called "Ratna Dharana", so it does not make any difference whether one wears round the neck or in finger, yes in finger it gives more results as it gets more light. It might be worn (only after testing) if in compound relationship they are coming as Sama-neutral. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Kind Regards, Neeraj Gupta --- yobrevol wrote: > hi neeraj, > namaskar. > you are right that conflicting gemstones are better > not worn together. > However, if one is required to wear them > simultaneously for jyotish purposes, then > it is best at the least- to wear them in different > hands or around the neck and > hands (hands will faster and stronger results, > apparantly). Another way to do > it is to wear the stone covered in a cloth on the > "other" upper arm, around > your biceps. > Once again, any gem(s) to have desired results, must > be worn in proper > ceremonial time, place, tithi, and ritual. > hope this helps; > Gaurav jain > ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 However you wear them, their energies are still feeding into your aura. If you are reasonably sensitive, a gemstone conflict is quite tangible...you will feel the discordant vibrations like a kind of emotional friction or irritation. On 17/3/04 1:44 am, "yobrevol" <yobrevol wrote: > hi neeraj, > namaskar. > you are right that conflicting gemstones are better not worn together. > However, if one is required to wear them simultaneously for jyotish purposes, > then > it is best at the least- to wear them in different hands or around the neck > and > hands (hands will faster and stronger results, apparantly). Another way to do > it is to wear the stone covered in a cloth on the "other" upper arm, around > your biceps. > Once again, any gem(s) to have desired results, must be worn in proper > ceremonial time, place, tithi, and ritual. > hope this helps; > Gaurav jain > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 Since you guys have broached the topic on gems, I could not help but to ask a clarification as regards my experience. In my chart, I have outright Shani as Yogakarka; however due to its infancy it could never give me any good results. Shani is the significator of my career; but at every stage of my career I had to struggle. Now, I don't want to get into all that here. The point is that every astrologer attributed the lack of fructification to weakness of Shani. They told me that Shani is not giving any results because it is very weak on account of its infancy. So the most obvious thing for me would be to wear good Blue Sapphire. I might have tried at least three to four times to weak Blue Sapphire, everytime I got adverse results and I was forced to take it off. I also tried Amethyst, but it too did not suit me. I am just perplexed over it. Though now I am finishing Shani Mahadasha, I was still curious to know why any Shani's gem did not suit me. I can understand that Blue Sapphire not suiting me; but amethyst should have at least suited me. I am starting Mercury Mahadasha; Though Mercury is also said to be benefic for me, it is again not going to give me any result because it is combusted. So I am expecting very very medicore results from Mercury Mahadasha. Do you think I should wear Emerald. I have been in writing profession; back in India I was working with Times of India, and now I am working as a software technical writer. While I was known as a very good writer during my journalism days, I was never considered as a good orator. I guess it has something to do with my combusted Mercury. I giving my birth details as follows: Just in case if you would like to check it yourself. Name: Manoj Sharma Time of Birth: 5.35 AM Place of Birth: Baraut (40 Kms North of Delhi) Date of Birth: June 1, 1966 Day of Birth: Wednesday.yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: hi neeraj,namaskar.you are right that conflicting gemstones are better not worn together. However, if one is required to wear them simultaneously for jyotish purposes, then it is best at the least- to wear them in different hands or around the neck and hands (hands will faster and stronger results, apparantly). Another way to do it is to wear the stone covered in a cloth on the "other" upper arm, around your biceps. Once again, any gem(s) to have desired results, must be worn in proper ceremonial time, place, tithi, and ritual.hope this helps;Gaurav jain ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Do you ? Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 i know a bit more now, thanks to you. gaurav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear Manoj, Your lagna lord is placed in 12th from lagna, so a real diamond should be your first choice. yes, you can also wear Emerald as mercury is lord of 2nd and fifth placed in first house. Mercury-Sun conjunction gives Buddha-Aditya yoga, so wearing an emerald will give strength to it. You pointed that Blue Sapphire is getting negative for you, it should not be so. R u sure, your birth time is correct. In one case of my friend, while visiting a local astrologer, I asked him to confirm the birth time and he somehow founded the document given by hospital and there was an error of 1 day. If you are sure your birth time is correct, you might have done something by mistake to dis-appease saturn. There is shani Amasvaya this saturday (19th march, 2004), so you can go for shani pooja at your nearest shani temple and get done this pooja, and thereafter in navratras, after proper cleansing the gemstone, reciting proper mantra, you can try blue sapphire once again. As per your chart, Saturn is YK for you conjoined with Arudha Lagna and Sree Lagna. Even if it doesn't suits u, just get down to mantra and carry on with a diamond and Emerald. PS: If you are in delhi or near by delhi, you can visit shani Dham saturday morning. It's in new delhi, 8 kms from Chattarpur mandir. I have been there and it is an excellent place to worship shani dev. Regards, Neeraj Gupta --- Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > Hi Neeraj. > Since you guys have broached the topic on gems, I > could not help but to ask a clarification as regards > my experience. In my chart, I have outright Shani as > Yogakarka; however due to its infancy it could never > give me any good results. Shani is the significator > of my career; but at every stage of my career I had > to struggle. Now, I don't want to get into all that > here. > The point is that every astrologer attributed the > lack of fructification to weakness of Shani. They > told me that Shani is not giving any results because > it is very weak on account of its infancy. > So the most obvious thing for me would be to wear > good Blue Sapphire. I might have tried at least > three to four times to weak Blue Sapphire, everytime > I got adverse results and I was forced to take it > off. > I also tried Amethyst, but it too did not suit me. I > am just perplexed over it. Though now I am finishing > Shani Mahadasha, I was still curious to know why any > Shani's gem did not suit me. > I can understand that Blue Sapphire not suiting me; > but amethyst should have at least suited me. > I am starting Mercury Mahadasha; Though Mercury is > also said to be benefic for me, it is again not > going to give me any result because it is combusted. > So I am expecting very very medicore results from > Mercury Mahadasha. Do you think I should wear > Emerald. > > I have been in writing profession; back in India I > was working with Times of India, and now I am > working as a software technical writer. While I was > known as a very good writer during my journalism > days, I was never considered as a good orator. I > guess it has something to do with my combusted > Mercury. > I giving my birth details as follows: Just in case > if you would like to check it yourself. > > Name: Manoj Sharma > Time of Birth: 5.35 AM > Place of Birth: Baraut (40 Kms North of Delhi) > Date of Birth: June 1, 1966 > Day of Birth: Wednesday. > > yobrevol wrote: > hi neeraj, > namaskar. > you are right that conflicting gemstones are better > not worn together. However, if one is required to > wear them simultaneously for jyotish purposes, then > it is best at the least- to wear them in different > hands or around the neck and hands (hands will > faster and stronger results, apparantly). Another > way to do it is to wear the stone covered in a cloth > on the "other" upper arm, around your biceps. > Once again, any gem(s) to have desired results, must > be worn in proper ceremonial time, place, tithi, and > ritual. > hope this helps; > Gaurav jain > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 I have spent lots of money on diamond; and never it has suited me. I live in Canada and Canadian diamonds are of very good quality. Last year I had got diamond worth $ 1200 (Canadian). It was a very good diamond. But it did not suit me. After wearing the diamond, within three to four days I am bed ridden. My health gets severe beating, my blood pressure shoots up and by third day I am on the verge of lossing my orientation. And the moment I take off diamond, everything becomes back to normal within hours. In fact, it is because of these adverse results I have experienced, my faith in gems as remedial measures have grown immensely. My conclusion is that if gems can harm you, it can also do lot of good provided if they suit you. However, the positive side of wearing diamond is that I get all venus related things within 8 to ten days. After trying diamond for several times, I gave up even thinking of wearing diamond now. One of the reasons that is proferred by some astrologers is that diamond would not suit me because Venus is malefic for me and is related to sixth house. This is a fact because whenever I wear diamond, my enemies either disappear or they are forced to bite the dust--sixth house is significator of enemies. I have faced lot of problems my enemies ('competitors' is the better word here). I had lot of hope from my Shani Mahadasha. But nothing awesome has happened, particularly in terms of my career; my career has been very very medicore. I really think that I have displeased Shani in some way or other. And I just can't carry out any pooja to propotiate Shani in Canada. I am thinking to coming to India in coming winter. So then I would be doing everything to propotiate Shani Maharaj. However, by then I suppose my Shani Mahadasha would be over. But I would still do it anyways. If you think that some havan can be carried at home, please let me know, I would be very grateful to you. As regards Buddhaditya Yoga, I don't think it is going to fructify (I am not being pessimistic here but I am being realistic) because Mercury has been completely combusted by Sun. By the way, my time of birth has been recorded as correctly as is practically possible. I hail from an orthodox Brahmin family, and traditionally my family takes all possible efforts to ensure that the birth times is recorded exactly. Please comment. Thanks a lot for all your help. Best Regards Manoj SharmaNeeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 > wrote: ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~Dear Manoj,Your lagna lord is placed in 12th from lagna, so areal diamond should be your first choice. yes, you canalso wear Emerald as mercury is lord of 2nd and fifthplaced in first house.Mercury-Sun conjunction gives Buddha-Aditya yoga, sowearing an emerald will give strength to it.You pointed that Blue Sapphire is getting negative foryou, it should not be so. R u sure, your birth time iscorrect. In one case of my friend, while visiting alocal astrologer, I asked him to confirm the birthtime and he somehow founded the document given byhospital and there was an error of 1 day. If you aresure your birth time is correct, you might have donesomething by mistake to dis-appease saturn. There is shani Amasvaya this saturday (19th march,2004), so you can go for shani pooja at your nearestshani temple and get done this pooja, and thereafterin navratras, after proper cleansing the gemstone,reciting proper mantra, you can try blue sapphire onceagain. As per your chart, Saturn is YK for youconjoined with Arudha Lagna and Sree Lagna. Even if itdoesn't suits u, just get down to mantra and carry onwith a diamond and Emerald.PS: If you are in delhi or near by delhi, you canvisit shani Dham saturday morning. It's in new delhi,8 kms from Chattarpur mandir. I have been there and itis an excellent place to worship shani dev.Regards,Neeraj Gupta--- Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > wrote:> Hi Neeraj.> Since you guys have broached the topic on gems, I> could not help but to ask a clarification as regards> my experience. In my chart, I have outright Shani as> Yogakarka; however due to its infancy it could never> give me any good results. Shani is the significator> of my career; but at every stage of my career I had> to struggle. Now, I don't want to get into all that> here. > The point is that every astrologer attributed the> lack of fructification to weakness of Shani. They> told me that Shani is not giving any results because> it is very weak on account of its infancy. > So the most obvious thing for me would be to wear> good Blue Sapphire. I might have tried at least> three to four times to weak Blue Sapphire, everytime> I got adverse results and I was forced to take it> off.> I also tried Amethyst, but it too did not suit me. I> am just perplexed over it. Though now I am finishing> Shani Mahadasha, I was still curious to know why any> Shani's gem did not suit me.> I can understand that Blue Sapphire not suiting me;> but amethyst should have at least suited me.> I am starting Mercury Mahadasha; Though Mercury is> also said to be benefic for me, it is again not> going to give me any result because it is combusted.> So I am expecting very very medicore results from> Mercury Mahadasha. Do you think I should wear> Emerald.> > I have been in writing profession; back in India I> was working with Times of India, and now I am> working as a software technical writer. While I was> known as a very good writer during my journalism> days, I was never considered as a good orator. I> guess it has something to do with my combusted> Mercury. > I giving my birth details as follows: Just in case> if you would like to check it yourself.> > Name: Manoj Sharma> Time of Birth: 5.35 AM> Place of Birth: Baraut (40 Kms North of Delhi)> Date of Birth: June 1, 1966> Day of Birth: Wednesday.> > yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:> hi neeraj,> namaskar.> you are right that conflicting gemstones are better> not worn together. However, if one is required to> wear them simultaneously for jyotish purposes, then> it is best at the least- to wear them in different> hands or around the neck and hands (hands will> faster and stronger results, apparantly). Another> way to do it is to wear the stone covered in a cloth> on the "other" upper arm, around your biceps. > Once again, any gem(s) to have desired results, must> be worn in proper ceremonial time, place, tithi, and> ritual.> hope this helps;> Gaurav jain > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~> > > > Sponsor> > > > Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of is subject to the> > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam=====http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/Do you ? Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear Manoj, You can start with shani mantra: 1) Om Sham Shanischaraya Namah 2) Om Praam Preem Prome Sah Shanaye Namah Start with first mantra only for a week, see if it is going positive else switch over to next mantra in another week. Generally, I had found that in MD-PD of planet, one mantra works (one is graha mantra and the other is beej mantra). This can be done at home. Also I don't know if peepal tree grows in canada or not. If it is there, you can light a lamp in mustard oil near peepal tree in evening after sunset. Also giving water to peepal tree on saturdays (before sunset) is also good and simple remedy to appease saturn. Regarding Diamond - You should perform a pooja or havan for Shri Lakshmi on Friday (if possible in navratras, as the effect is multifold). So you need to strengthen venus as well as propitiate it. Difficult thing to do, so after pooja / havan, the diamond may suit you. Still if it gives negative effect, start donating white things on saturdays. Hope it should work. If not mantra is the most safest and saatwic way. Regards, Neeraj Gupta --- Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > Hi Neeraj, > I have spent lots of money on diamond; and never it > has suited me. I live in Canada and Canadian > diamonds are of very good quality. Last year I had > got diamond worth $ 1200 (Canadian). It was a very > good diamond. But it did not suit me. After wearing > the diamond, within three to four days I am bed > ridden. My health gets severe beating, my blood > pressure shoots up and by third day I am on the > verge of lossing my orientation. And the moment I > take off diamond, everything becomes back to normal > within hours. In fact, it is because of these > adverse results I have experienced, my faith in gems > as remedial measures have grown immensely. My > conclusion is that if gems can harm you, it can also > do lot of good provided if they suit you. > However, the positive side of wearing diamond is > that I get all venus related things within 8 to ten > days. After trying diamond for several times, I gave > up even thinking of wearing diamond now. One of the > reasons that is proferred by some astrologers is > that diamond would not suit me because Venus is > malefic for me and is related to sixth house. This > is a fact because whenever I wear diamond, my > enemies either disappear or they are forced to bite > the dust--sixth house is significator of enemies. I > have faced lot of problems my enemies ('competitors' > is the better word here). > I had lot of hope from my Shani Mahadasha. But > nothing awesome has happened, particularly in terms > of my career; my career has been very very medicore. > I really think that I have displeased Shani in some > way or other. And I just can't carry out any pooja > to propotiate Shani in Canada. I am thinking to > coming to India in coming winter. So then I would be > doing everything to propotiate Shani Maharaj. > However, by then I suppose my Shani Mahadasha would > be over. But I would still do it anyways. If you > think that some havan can be carried at home, please > let me know, I would be very grateful to you. > > As regards Buddhaditya Yoga, I don't think it is > going to fructify (I am not being pessimistic here > but I am being realistic) because Mercury has been > completely combusted by Sun. > > By the way, my time of birth has been recorded as > correctly as is practically possible. I hail from an > orthodox Brahmin family, and traditionally my family > takes all possible efforts to ensure that the birth > times is recorded exactly. > > Please comment. > > Thanks a lot for all your help. > > Best Regards > Manoj Sharma > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Dear Manoj, > > Your lagna lord is placed in 12th from lagna, so a > real diamond should be your first choice. yes, you > can > also wear Emerald as mercury is lord of 2nd and > fifth > placed in first house. > > Mercury-Sun conjunction gives Buddha-Aditya yoga, so > wearing an emerald will give strength to it. > > You pointed that Blue Sapphire is getting negative > for > you, it should not be so. R u sure, your birth time > is > correct. In one case of my friend, while visiting a > local astrologer, I asked him to confirm the birth > time and he somehow founded the document given by > hospital and there was an error of 1 day. If you are > sure your birth time is correct, you might have done > something by mistake to dis-appease saturn. > > There is shani Amasvaya this saturday (19th march, > 2004), so you can go for shani pooja at your nearest > shani temple and get done this pooja, and thereafter > in navratras, after proper cleansing the gemstone, > reciting proper mantra, you can try blue sapphire > once > again. As per your chart, Saturn is YK for you > conjoined with Arudha Lagna and Sree Lagna. Even if > it > doesn't suits u, just get down to mantra and carry > on > with a diamond and Emerald. > > PS: If you are in delhi or near by delhi, you can > visit shani Dham saturday morning. It's in new > delhi, > 8 kms from Chattarpur mandir. I have been there and > it > is an excellent place to worship shani dev. > > Regards, > > Neeraj Gupta > --- Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > wrote: > > Hi Neeraj. > > Since you guys have broached the topic on gems, I > > could not help but to ask a clarification as > regards > > my experience. In my chart, I have outright Shani > as > > Yogakarka; however due to its infancy it could > never > > give me any good results. Shani is the > significator > > of my career; but at every stage of my career I > had > > to struggle. Now, I don't want to get into all > that > > here. > > The point is that every astrologer attributed the > > lack of fructification to weakness of Shani. They > > told me that Shani is not giving any results > because > > it is very weak on account of its infancy. > > So the most obvious thing for me would be to wear > > good Blue Sapphire. I might have tried at least > > three to four times to weak Blue Sapphire, > everytime > > I got adverse results and I was forced to take it > > off. > > I also tried Amethyst, but it too did not suit me. > I > > am just perplexed over it. Though now I am > finishing > > Shani Mahadasha, I was still curious to know why > any > > Shani's gem did not suit me. > > I can understand that Blue Sapphire not suiting > me; > > but amethyst should have at least suited me. > > I am starting Mercury Mahadasha; Though Mercury is > > also said to be benefic for me, it is again not > > going to give me any result because it is > combusted. > > So I am expecting very very medicore results from > > Mercury Mahadasha. Do you think I should wear > > Emerald. > > > > I have been in writing profession; back in India I > > was working with Times of India, and now I am > > working as a software technical writer. While I > was > > known as a very good writer during my journalism > > days, I was never considered as a good orator. I > > guess it has something to do with my combusted > > Mercury. > > I giving my birth details as follows: Just in case > > if you would like to check it yourself. > > > > Name: Manoj Sharma > > Time of Birth: 5.35 AM > > Place of Birth: Baraut (40 Kms North of Delhi) > > Date of Birth: June 1, 1966 > > Day of Birth: Wednesday. > > > > yobrevol wrote: > > hi neeraj, > > namaskar. > > you are right that conflicting gemstones are > better > > not worn together. However, if one is required to > > wear them simultaneously for jyotish purposes, > then > > it is best at the least- to wear them in different > > hands or around the neck and hands (hands will > > faster and stronger results, apparantly). Another > > way to do it is to wear the stone covered in a > cloth > > on the "other" upper arm, around your biceps. > > Once again, any gem(s) to have desired results, > must > > be worn in proper ceremonial time, place, tithi, > and > > ritual. > > hope this helps; > > Gaurav jain > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL > !~ > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > === message truncated === ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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