Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 hi, what is kala sarpa yogam. my younger daughter seems to have it. can you tell me the parihararam for this. gs Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner 13 Apr 2004 08:37:22 -0000 Digest Number 430 There are 17 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: To Manas: Does mars in asc makes agressive: From Souvik "indervohra2001" <indervohra2001 2. Re: Should I wear Red Coral -- Neeraj Ji.... "asharm_ind" <asharm_ind 3. To Flick, Tanvir and Inderji: Re: Pink: From Souvik "Tanvir Chowdhury" <lord_narayana 4. Re: To Manas: Does mars in asc makes agressive: From Souvik "Manas Kumar" <manaskumar 5. PLEASE HELP! "hamendra_c" <hamendra_c 6. Re: Re: To Manas: Does mars in asc makes agressive: From Souvik srik rami <srikrami 7. Tanvir-----> your site. "khallopapa" <khallopapa 8. RE: Tanvir-----> your site. "Calla, Raman" <rcalla 9. Queries on rudraksha (To Mr. SP Tata) "raghuvenkataj" <raghuvenkataj 10. 2-& Souvik....from Mark Kincaid...4/2....re Astrology + Christianity + Islam: From Souvik Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid 11. 2-& Surya, from Mark Kincaid....4/12...re.... How to tell when a dasa cycle has ended? Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid 12. RE: Neeraj ji "Calla, Raman" <rcalla 13. 2-& Souvik: from Mark K....4/12...re.... Astrology + Christianity + Islam: From Souvik #2 Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid 14. PLEASE HELP!(Members) "hamendra_c" <hamendra_c 15. To Flick, Tanvir and Inderji: Pink II & Shubho Noboborsho: From Souvik "OM" <explore_vulcan 16. Reconfirmation "ttaggar" <merabakwas 17. Re: To Flick, Tanvir and Inderji: Re: Pink: From Souvik Flick <rubysun ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:21:02 -0000 "indervohra2001" <indervohra2001 Re: To Manas: Does mars in asc makes agressive: From Souvik Dear friends, In my opinion astrological analysis and remedies etc should not be carried out for such a young child. It may lead to unneccesary complications. He should be bestowed with normal love, educations, training , medicines etc. Inder , "OM" <explore_vulcan> wrote: > Hi Manas, > > This is an excellent point brought out by you. A month back, I wrote > a document (wars of the world), where I pointed out that most of the > disasters took place in history when there was Mars Opposed by some > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn. > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive nature of humans cannot be > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna Lord alone. There has > to be a some opposition. > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom Cruise, MIssion ImpossibleII > > Do let me know ur views, > > Regards, > Souvik > > , "Manas Kumar" > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but in 7th house with > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders took place in rahu's > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where venus, mercury and mars > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right across from the third > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with ketu. Chandal- gajkeshari. > > It is interesting that mercury plays a significant role as does > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were carried out by other > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by him. Much to explore in > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma Gandhi's chart, as well. > > > > > > , "ssz_dreams" > > <ssz_dreams> wrote: > > > Hi ebody, > > > I got some doubts while observing neighbours chield horoscope > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one agressive/fighter,as i > observed > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting behaviour > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house) > > > does this chield need any remedies to become a calm boy > > > in this horoscope > > > 1.five planets combusted > > > 2. five planets in 12th house > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)? > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in 12th house as they form > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?) > > > > > > birth data: > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000 > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST) > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20 ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:22:00 -0000 "asharm_ind" <asharm_ind Re: Should I wear Red Coral -- Neeraj Ji.... Dear Neeraj Bhai, First of all, many thanks for responding to my query. I highly appreciate it. I have asked the astrologer to send me the mantras and I plan to do the Jaap myself as well. I am already wearing a 6 ratti yellow sapphire in Index finger of right hand and a 5.25 ratti yellow sapphire in the neck (it's my old ring which I don't want to part with as I feel it is lucky for me). In addition, I am wearing a 8 ratti Gomedha ring in the middle finger of my left hand. I believe that Gems of Rahu/Ketu should not be worn along with the Gems for Sun and Moon. Is there any other upay which will help me thru this testing phase of my life? Sincerely, Arun , Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote: > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Dear Arun Bhai, > > Kindly find my reply in CAPS below, will get back to u > soon again. > > --- asharm_ind <asharm_ind> wrote: > > Dear Neeraj Bhai, > > > > Apologies if this is a dumb question...In the start > > of the post you > > mentioned that Sun is not exalted and later you > > stated that sun will > > be exalted in 3-4 days. Could you please shed some > > light on this. > > SUN IS NOT EXALTED IN YOUR BIRTH CHART. SUN WILL GET > EXALTED IN NEXT 3-4 DAYS (IN TRANSIT OR SAY GOCHARA), > IT MEANS IT'S A PERFECT TIME TO WEAR RUBY. > > > > > I understand that I am undergoing Sun Mahadasha with > > Ketu antasdasha > > started today (April 11th 2004). > > > > I have also been told that I am undergoing Rahu > > dasha (Tribhagi) and > > Bhramari yogini dasha is also in progress which is > > supposed to be > > very bad. The Bhramari dasha is getting over in > > July, once I am 31. > > The same astrologer also advised to do (or get done) > > Rahu's Jaap > > (18000 repetitions), Bhramari Jaap (4000 > > repetitions) and Shri > > Mahakaal Shani Mrityunjaya mantra (100 times) since > > from 5th Sept > > 2004, Shani's dhaiya is starting. > > > > WHATEVER JAPA DO YOU. DO IT YOURSELF. DON'T GET IT > DONE. JAPA DONE BY SELF GIVES THE BEST RESULTS. > > > I am wearing Gomedha (in middle finger of left hand) > > for last few > > months (I have worn Gomedha on and off three times > > during last 10 > > years) and Yellow Sapphire continuously for last 8 > > years in right > > hand index finger (I changed the gem a few months > > back). I keep fast > > on Wednesdays and recite Shri Ganesha Beej Mantra > > daily. > > YOU NEED TO WORSHIP GANESHA, DOESN'T MATTER HOW U DO > IT. GOD SEES FEELINGS. I WILL QUOTE A STATEMENT FROM > SANJAY RATH JI "IF THERE IS AN UNDYING FAITH, ANY > MANTRA WILL WORK". SO U CAN RECITE ANY MANTRA OF SHRI > GANESHA, AARTI, PRAYER, HYMN, STROTA. ALL OF THEM > GIVES POSITIVE EFFECTS ONLY. > > IF POSSIBLE FOR U, WEAR YELLOW SAPPHIRE IN RING FINGER > OR ROUND THE NECK. IF BOTH ARE NOT POSSIBLE, THEN ONLY > WEAR IN INDEX FINGER. > > > > > Do you think I don't need to wear Gomedha and switch > > to Ruby? > > > > In case you need to know the significant events in > > my life so far, > > here they are: > > > > Completed college education : June 1993 > > Started first full-time job : September 1994 > > Came to Japan for living / work: June 1997 > > Got married : January 2001 > > Blessed with a son : October 2002 > > > > Regards, > > Arun > > > > > > , Neeraj > > Gupta > > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote: > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > > > Dear Arun, > > > > > > The difference might be becuase most of the recent > > day > > > astrololgers have started putting off their own > > > theories. Here is my analysis. > > > > > > 1) Your sun is not exalted. > > > 2) You can wear Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and Red > > Coral > > > 3) You should wear yellow sapphire, as Jupiter is > > lord > > > of trine and is debiliated in a dusthana. Wear the > > > stones at auspicious time and purify them before > > > wearing. Sometimes stone is correct, but we don't > > wear > > > it properly, so we get negative effects. > > > > > > Regarding Job - Your career Lord Venus is placed > > in > > > 12th from Lagna. So worship Shri Lakshmi and if > > > possible donate some white things (sugar, milk, > > rice > > > etc) on fridays. > > > > > > Health - Lagna represents self, and your lagna > > lord is > > > placed with Saturn and Ketu. Appease saturn by > > > ligthing a lamp on saturdays in front of shanidev > > and > > > ketu by reciting "Om Shree Ganeshaya Namah" in > > > morning. You have leo lagna and sun will be > > exalted in > > > 3-4 days. So *if possible for you* wear a ruby in > > gold > > > (5-5.5 ratti) in ring finger on sunday, after > > > purifying the ring and reciting the mantra. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > --- asharm_ind <asharm_ind> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > I have received contradictory astrological > > advice > > > > from two > > > > astrologers. > > > > > > > > One of them (affiliated to a major indian > > astrology > > > > site), > > > > recommended that I wear Yellow Sapphire and Red > > > > Coral. The Yellow > > > > Sapphire was recommended to help me with the > > nagging > > > > health problems > > > > and the Red Coral was suggested as Mars is a > > > > Yogakarka planet in my > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > I have been wearing yellow sapphire for last 8 > > years > > > > and the fact > > > > that I still have these health problems make me > > > > doubt if the first > > > > recommendation was apt. > > > > > > > > Regarding Red Coral, another astrologer is of > > view > > > > that since my Sun > > > > is exalted, I must not wear Red Coral. > > > > > > > > I contacted these astrologers to shed some light > > on > > > > two specific > > > > areas: > > > > > > > > 1) Ongoing Health problems (nothing serious but > > > > annoying) > > > > 2) Dissatisfaction with my current professional > > > > position and chances > > > > of progress. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately they have confused me even more. > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if someone can take a look at > > my > > > > chart and guide > > > > me. > > > > > > > > My Birth Data is given below > > > > > > > > Date of Birth : 13th July 1973 > > > > Time of Birth : 09:31 AM (IST) > > > > Place of Birth : Faridabad, Haryana (India) > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Arun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Open Demat Account - Fast, Safe and Secure > > > http://www.neerajgupta.com/demat.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th > > > http://taxes./filing.html > > > > > > > ===== > Open Demat Account - Fast, Safe and Secure > http://www.neerajgupta.com/demat.htm > > > > > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th > http://taxes./filing.html ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:52:34 -0000 "Tanvir Chowdhury" <lord_narayana To Flick, Tanvir and Inderji: Re: Pink: From Souvik Dear Souvik Jee, In my experiments I have found that pink is the colour of Sun. I am 100% sure of this from my side. You put a ruby-star [sun's gem] over light, you will see that it's colour is actually a dark pink. The colour of the stones give almost the same info about the colour of particular planets. Flick is right about my website suggesting pink for sun. You can see all my colour-recommendations from there. In my site or other writings I never remember to mention/write what I have just read without testing it. Most of what I write and tell is purely mine :-) May be that is why my area is limited, too. Regards Tanvir. , "OM" <explore_vulcan> wrote: > Hi Flick and Inderji, > > I absolutely agree with Inderji. Pink is the color for Venus. This is > in line with Islamic belief also. > > Tanvir, please do comment on this. Isn't there the mention of Pink in > Lal Kitab? > > Regards, > Souvik > > , Flick <rubysun@n...> wrote: > > Inder, thank you. Oh, dear, yet another opinion...this is so > confusing. > > > > On 11/4/04 7:23 am, "indervohra2001" <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > Dear , > > > Pink is colour of Venus and Moon. > > > I wish you a happy and pink moods. > > > Inder > > > -- In , Flick <rubysun@n...> > wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> I would be grateful if someone could tell me whether pink is a > > > colour for > > >> the sun or Mars. > > >> > > >> Many thanks, > > >> > > >> Flick. > > >> Author website: > > >> http://www.witchcraft.org/elenhawke.htm > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:29:29 -0000 "Manas Kumar" <manaskumar Re: To Manas: Does mars in asc makes agressive: From Souvik Put a soldier in the warfield, he will fight, put him to pasture, he will wither away. Mars gets exalted in capricorn but debilitated in cancer! Mars may not always be associated with aggression, just like other stereotypes are not 100% accurate. Astrology has its own set of stereotypical ankle chains ;-) , "OM" <explore_vulcan> wrote: > Hi Manas, > > This is an excellent point brought out by you. A month back, I wrote > a document (wars of the world), where I pointed out that most of the > disasters took place in history when there was Mars Opposed by some > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn. > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive nature of humans cannot be > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna Lord alone. There has > to be a some opposition. > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom Cruise, MIssion ImpossibleII > > Do let me know ur views, > > Regards, > Souvik > > , "Manas Kumar" > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but in 7th house with > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders took place in rahu's > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where venus, mercury and mars > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right across from the third > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with ketu. Chandal- gajkeshari. > > It is interesting that mercury plays a significant role as does > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were carried out by other > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by him. Much to explore in > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma Gandhi's chart, as well. > > > > > > , "ssz_dreams" > > <ssz_dreams> wrote: > > > Hi ebody, > > > I got some doubts while observing neighbours chield horoscope > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one agressive/fighter,as i > observed > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting behaviour > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house) > > > does this chield need any remedies to become a calm boy > > > in this horoscope > > > 1.five planets combusted > > > 2. five planets in 12th house > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)? > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in 12th house as they form > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?) > > > > > > birth data: > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000 > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST) > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20 ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:29:53 -0000 "hamendra_c" <hamendra_c PLEASE HELP! Hello Everyone, I have just joined this group and upon reading the previous messages have found that memebers of this group are extremely helpful.I have a query pertaining to my friends chart. Her chart details are the following Ascendant-Virgo Saturn,Mercury,Ketu- 3rd House(Scorpio) Sun,Jupiter-4th House(Sagittarius) Moon,Venus-5th House(Capricorn) Mars(Aquarius) Rahu(Taurus) My qu1eries are the following? 1. I read some article on the internet which says that placement of the 8th house lord in 6th house gives very short life and in her chart Mars which is the 8th lord & is placed in 6th House,& i have been very disturbed upon reading that article.Can somebody plz clarify how applicable the above statement is? 2.In her Chart there is an exchange between 3rd house lord(Mars) and 6th house lord(Saturn) Does this constitute a Vipreet raja yoga? 3.Since jupiter is the lord for 4th and 7th house,there is a kendradhipati dosha present,does it get annulled in this chart? If some one could answer the above queries especially the first one i would be highly obliged as it has been causing me great worry as she is a very cloase friend. Thanks Hamendra ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:57:15 -0700 (PDT) srik rami <srikrami Re: Re: To Manas: Does mars in asc makes agressive: From Souvik I think it does, either when placed with ascendent lord or in ascendent. They will be dynamic and highly motivated with inner martian force. Sharma Manas Kumar <manaskumar wrote: Put a soldier in the warfield, he will fight, put him to pasture, he will wither away. Mars gets exalted in capricorn but debilitated in cancer! Mars may not always be associated with aggression, just like other stereotypes are not 100% accurate. Astrology has its own set of stereotypical ankle chains ;-) , "OM" <explore_vulcan> wrote: > Hi Manas, > > This is an excellent point brought out by you. A month back, I wrote > a document (wars of the world), where I pointed out that most of the > disasters took place in history when there was Mars Opposed by some > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn. > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive nature of humans cannot be > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna Lord alone. There has > to be a some opposition. > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom Cruise, MIssion ImpossibleII > > Do let me know ur views, > > Regards, > Souvik > > , "Manas Kumar" > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but in 7th house with > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders took place in rahu's > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where venus, mercury and mars > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right across from the third > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with ketu. Chandal- gajkeshari. > > It is interesting that mercury plays a significant role as does > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were carried out by other > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by him. Much to explore in > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma Gandhi's chart, as well. > > > > > > , "ssz_dreams" > > <ssz_dreams> wrote: > > > Hi ebody, > > > I got some doubts while observing neighbours chield horoscope > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one agressive/fighter,as i > observed > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting behaviour > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house) > > > does this chield need any remedies to become a calm boy > > > in this horoscope > > > 1.five planets combusted > > > 2. five planets in 12th house > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)? > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in 12th house as they form > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?) > > > > > > birth data: > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000 > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST) > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20 ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Tax Center - File online by April 15th [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:23:50 -0000 "khallopapa" <khallopapa Tanvir-----> your site. Dear Tanvir, I visited your personal site today..(holiday...:-) ) Its interesting. The question-answers where you have mentioned "you do not love someone, then no one can hurt you, you are safe from that!" Remember its not the LOVE, its the EXPECTATIONS which hurt you. I like your quote very much..."what cannot happen can never happen. What is mine is forever mine." Good job Tanvir at this young age. This talent is a gift of God to you. Utilize it and remain as humble, honest and natural as you always are. Blessings Manoshi ______________________ ______________________ Message: 8 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:31:00 -0700 "Calla, Raman" <rcalla RE: Tanvir-----> your site. Very Nice, Manoshi Please keeo it up and write Regards! RC khallopapa [khallopapa] Monday, April 12, 2004 1:24 PM Tanvir-----> your site. Dear Tanvir, I visited your personal site today..(holiday...:-) ) Its interesting. The question-answers where you have mentioned "you do not love someone, then no one can hurt you, you are safe from that!" Remember its not the LOVE, its the EXPECTATIONS which hurt you. I like your quote very much..."what cannot happen can never happen. What is mine is forever mine." Good job Tanvir at this young age. This talent is a gift of God to you. Utilize it and remain as humble, honest and natural as you always are. Blessings Manoshi ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ _____ * / * <?subject=Un> * Terms of Service <> . [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 9 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:14:20 -0000 "raghuvenkataj" <raghuvenkataj Queries on rudraksha (To Mr. SP Tata) Dear Mr.Tata, I have few clarifications regarding Rudraksh. 1. Is Rudraksha prescribed based on Star or after consulting the horoscope of the individual. 2. I understand there are very strict and stringent procedures for wearing and maintaining Rudraksha. 3. Can a individual's mother or sister wear rudraksha. 4. I just checked the rudraksha specification from the chart you have published on the web. For Punarvasu the star lord in jupiter and one can wear 5 mukhi rudraksh. But per my horoscope Jupiter is the lagna lord (Dhanus) and is debilated in Makara. Whether it will be ok to wear the rudraksha then. 5. Since you do not advise gems, will there be a problem in wearing rudraksha along with gem advised by other astrologer 6. Also, is there problem if one wears a rudraksh alongwith a planetary yantra. Please Advise. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 10 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:15:26 -0500 Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid 2-& Souvik....from Mark Kincaid...4/2....re Astrology + Christianity + Islam: From Souvik Dear Souvik, friends & all: I was asked to write a description of myself....for this other group I'm on called: The Truth, will set you free. So, I thought I might reproduce here.... It was a response to a lady who wrote in saying how 'alone' she was... I also think this is important, because in Jyotish, 'loneliness'. can be a product of the Moon, and especially Moon & Saturn, and even sometimes...the Sun, or even Rising Sign.... For me, having my Moon in the 12th House, only 1 house away from my Sun in the 11th House, and with Saturn in the 12th House.... this was something I could relate to.... but...what do they....say...."what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger!" I don't know if that was exactly true for me,...but it sure made me search out that....which finally dispelled...that 'loneliness'.... But, it wasn't until I learned Jyotish and also learned how to pay attention and honor, and heed the Wisdoms of the other Planets....that inner comfort and joy....became more!! Okay here's this other...correspondence... I list it because it relates to our present converstation here about religion, god & Astrology.... Dear all: Here's my definition of God, as requested..... I believe, that God...is God, to me, represents the 'totality' of life... He, or She, as you might say,....are 'that'...from which this Universe came... Scientists may try and describe what the state of 'existence' was before the big bang... but I believe that which was before, was ....'God'.... We use the word, 'God', because God is beyond all opposites of even male or female... And we say, God, because we believe this 'something' that was before...is awake... is aware of itself... is conscious...and therefore Consciousness, itself... I also believe, that God...is way beyond even the debates as to whether he is or not... When I was young, in my Christian, Episcopalisn background, we 'debated', 'reflected', upon 'God'...all the time.... and it was fun, exciting, meaningful and stimulating... But, when I went to college and stumbled upon a little book called: 'How to Know God'.... 'Wow, no one ever told me he could be experienced.... So, began a new chapter in my life, with God...from one of reflections, ponderings, and thinkings, to looking into ways and means to have my own experience.... I came across, of course, all the mystical traditions, of both the West and East...and they all, described fairly interestingly similar experiences.... So, I was very excited to start my own research...in experience.... I learned to 'meditate', not too long after that, and began my own...inward, non-linear, pre-thought, beyond thought experience.... After about a year of meditating, I realized 'I' was very different... Instead of thinking the way I used to .... I started to notice, that there was more of a comfort inside, ..... there was a kind of buffer....something was different.... as if a cloud...of ....something...had begun to descend.... and it descended....upon me.... Another few years later...and I began to wonder how did I get along without this inner reality... All the time, I still thought my same thougths, but marveled at the difference in my reflections as this ...innerness continued getting deeper, more still....more......and more.... I remember when I first heard the words Consciousness expansion.... but they meant very little to me... But, then, when I started to have my own experience....suddently it meant a lot to me.... About 10 years later...a new kind of experience started to dawn.... I remember years earlier when one of the meditation teachers I studied with said: "In the beginning of your meditations, the world will continue being concrete, and this new inner reality will seem abstract .... but a time will come with regular experience....that the World will suddenly be experienced as phenonenal and abstract and this inner area of Consciousness will become the concrete thing..." I realized then, after even 10 short years that this had happened to me! The World was just the same, but now, it seemed to shine and glimmer as if on a concrete.... ball of 'something'.... and now, that inner, something...was becoming more and more familiar, steady,....non-changeing....and yes, concrete! A number of years later, I had a new experience.... and it happened like this... One day I had the thought, 'Mmmm, I haven't talked to God for awhile, .... And so I started back in with a familiar refrain and back and forth,...and then, I stopped. Suddenly it occured to me, I wasn't the only one talking. There was an actual dialogue going on back and forth. So, automatic, and familiar I almost didn't notice....... but then, my intellect kicked in...so I said... "Wait a minute, how do I know it is you, God..." And then, I'll never forget this, in my whole life, for I heard..."because every thought you've ever had, in fact every thought anyone has ever had, ....comes from Me!" Woahhhhhhhh....... I said, thought, jumped...."Wait a minute. You mean to tell me I'm right now, talking to God?!!!" And the voice, thought, whatever...said..."Yes!" Well, believe me, I couldn't believe it. I'd been talking to God for years... Like most people, I think... but, now...and yet, what he said...was true.... I believed God was that from which everything comes, so it must be true that every thought, every thought everyone has ever had....comes from Him.... So, I felt myself ....letting go...and embracing the ....for lack of better words,...the 'truth' of that statement.... and I felt this joy....indescribable.... to anything I'd ever had before... and then.... I found myself saying.... "Well, if this is true, then, I should be able to ask you anything.... and on and on we went.... 5 minutes, 10 minutes...back and forth...for who knows how long... till I had to stop to just catch up..... Wow...my lord.... I believe you..... The next few days, weeks and months, you might imagine...were heavenly.... I looked forward waking up each and every day.... because I was having this dialogue... unbelieveable.... in every single way.... I even....started a book which I called Conversations with God... boy, did my intellect do a number on my head...when I came up with that title.... So, of course I didn't act upon it.... Then.... About a year later, I was working in a friends house, I do construction....sometimes...and I looked down...and upon my friend's coffee table was a book which said: "Conversations with God". Waittttt, a minute, I thought ....that's my book! I reached down picked it...up..... And then, God said....it was your book, but you didn't believe in it, so I wrote it with another.... Wow.... did I feel left out..... Now, I realize...'well, if all thoughts do come from God, maybe next time, I'll pay better attention!" Now,.... I've gone back....to the inner development of that .....inner....something... which we call God, the Self... Brahman.... the Lord.... I have a clear notion today, of an inner path of Self....or Self-Realization... Some even call it God-realization.... Now, I know, ...believe, if you may..... that there is a path,...we all are on... one...of different and varying degrees of 'waking up with God'..... Wow, now, wouldn't that be a neat book! And now, that my belief is strong...and experience, inner dimension,....more stable... now, I want to develop more and more of that.... Who would have ever guessed.... That once you discover God,...even learn to talk to him.... that ....that, wouldn't be enough! Boy, are we greedy or what..... So, now, I'm thinking each day, more and more... what can I do, that allows me to be more and more...in-tune...with that inner Reality... we call God.... He speaks to me now, He...also has a female part...with I now, know, as Mother.... So, she....can speak to me, too.... So, now.... I can't help but get back to the original reason why I picked up this topic/discussion was because...of Stacey's comment about being alone. I can so relate to this. All of my earliest life, I was very much like this, too. I felt alone, lonely, isolated,....and even depressive.... Maybe that's one of the reasons..why I wanted to know more about God.... because I felt so bad,...on the inside.... Stacey: I just want to say.... for each step, that I took inside.... meditating...more and more... less and less of the time,....did I feel...lonely.... And when I time came where I realized I didn't feel alone, again....ever.... then I knew something great and wonderful had happened to me... So, I wish the same for you. This great group, about people who, 'believe' in God... is about finding that great comfort, from which all worries, anxieties...and discomforts... can be banished! Good luck to you! Sincerely, Mark Kincaid "mightyquinn333" <mightyquinn333 The_Truth_Will_Set_You_Free Thu, 08 Apr 2004 04:31:30 -0000 The_Truth_Will_Set_You_Free [The_Truth_Will_Set_You_Free] Re: I don't want to be Alone? The_Truth_Will_Set_You_Free, "Stacey" <sleaemtp> wrote: > The_Truth_Will_Set_You_Free, "Michael" > <smikeusa> wrote: > > Has anyone ever felt Alone, I mean realy Alone. I had an > > experience once that I forgot everyone I knew and I felt Alone, > yes > > drugs were involved. LOL But I remember the experience very well > > and what I got out of the experience is the important reason I > bring > > this up. In the end we\everything will be as one. Which we will > come > > to the Final realization you are alone. I feel the existiance of > > life is preparing us for that final realization. We are all > evolving > > to that final realization in our own way and speed. The funny > thing > > is, that as long as we hold the notion of God in our minds we > never > > feel alone, but ultimatley it is when we finaly become one with > God > > is when we will truely be Alone. I just wanted to share my Alone > > experience with you and wanted to know if anyone else ever feels > > Alone? > > If holding the notion of God in our minds makes us feel better, then > the realization that we ARE God and ARE all one, should make us feel > even better. > > Stacey Life is a little less lonely for a man when he can find a Mary Magdalen Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:47:30 -0700 (PDT) To Mark, Raman and JR: Astrology + Christianity + Islam: From Souvik Hi Members, What I am writing now is a result of motivation and energy I received from a wonderful posting (as below) by Mark Kincaid on Astrology and Christianity. However, what I write now is completely my view and may differ from the readers. Religion is a sensitive and personal issue and one should be very careful when commenting on such issues. So I would just mention some statistical and classified data and end the mail with a question. Christianity: Christians "worship" (or pray , or observe religious concerns) on Sunday. USA (dominantly) a Christian nation "domiantes" the world activities. WTC and the threats to US occured during the Moon dasa of US. America starts with the letter 'A', supossedly a representation of the 'SUN' Islam: Muslims ""worship" (or pray , or observe religious concerns) on Friday. Islam (perhaps) has the largest followers (Muslims) in the world. Women (Venus) are reverred in Islam and highly respected in the original form of Islam Women are safe gaurded and considered prized "possesions" in Islam Muslims are the greatest cooks (Venus) in the world. Please do ponder upon the few lines I have written and please do let me know ur views. Mark, I am sure you will find the emperical pattern of human religion!! Are we above celestial concerns? Regards, Souvik Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote: Dear Friends: Here's a wonderful question about whether Astrology is compatible with Christianity! enjoy Mark K. Dear Raman: Astrology and Christianity are definitely compatible... Remind them of the story of the Christ child & birth... It was 3 wise, men kings who had been led by their astrologers....to follow the Star! why? to find the Christ child... So, Astrology's greatest purpose is to help us evolve, to find the Spiritual nature of life, which is beyond the Stars... The stars, are the path, through which God, created.... us..to live to find Him.... I understand the anxiety that is there in Christianity, .... but ....anyone who understands that anything of value, in the relative world, from positive thinking seminar, to an economics course, to Astrology!...all...can be helpful...to help us understand...the true purpose of life, is to become enlightened! hope this helps.. Mark K. ps... in the famous book of one of the founders of Astrology; Maharishi Parashara, he says: "in the beginning Lord Vishnu, entered into the grahas to bestow upon his devotees, the consequences of their actions..." So, in essence the Planets are really just God, in disguise... I think even Hindus, can learn that Jupiter, himself, ...is just the Lord, in disguise... To pray to them, is not as necessary, except the extent to which the prayer, teaches us how our own actions are causing us our griefs... God, doesn't do anything to us. God, has 2 rules....#1, God gives us complete freedom to doing whatever we would like... #2...however, we're also going to be help accountable for the consequences of our actions... So, we get born with malefic Astrological situations, which mean, that God, or Nature is innocently giving back to us..the product of our 'wrong' of imperfect actions, and if by praying we learn how better to perform those actions,...to turn that malefic into a benefic!... then the prayer is okay... hope this answers and helps... Sincerely, Mark Kincaid Namaste.... "Calla, Raman" <rcalla Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:39:23 -0700 <> RE: 2- & Deepak, from Mark K....4/7......re.... Lagna Lord -Benefic or Malefic? Mark: I have few questions for you: Jyotish and Christianity, are they compatible ? For Upaya offering prayer to Jupiter or other planet is against the Christianity. I have been asked this question by friend. Can you talk about it. regards! Raman Mark Kincaid [m.kincaid] Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:48 AM 2- & Deepak, from Mark K....4/7......re.... Lagna Lord -Benefic or Malefic? Dear Deepak & All: There's actually 2 ways of thinking about the relative benefic or malefic status of our Planets... Yes, I think the Lagna Lord is always, 'essentially benefic'... but if the first house lord, is in the 12th house, 6th or 8th.... then, it may be potentially, benefic, but certainly may be found functioning as a malefic. Take the example, too, of Planets that are ruleing the traditionally, considered, malefic 6th, 8th or 12th houses... They're generally thought of as malefic, but they can certainly be found acting benefically, especially if they're in their own, sign, or Exalted! I love what the sage, Mahrishi Parashara was supposed to say about the planets.. In the beginning of his book, on Hora Sastra, he says: "In the Beginning Lord Vishnu entered into the grahas to bestow upon his devotees, the consequences of their karmas." I love this expression because it helps me understand that basically, essentially, all the Planets are benefic or good! Only sometimes, the lord, radiates back to us, less then desirable results, to teach us, so we aspire to develop and improve that side of us.... Let's say, someone has Sani, in the 12th House. And it's definitely acting malefic there! Ah...take my chart, yikes!,....but having a Libra rising my Sani, though it's in the 12th house, is still supposed to be benefic!, being yogakaraka, and all... but, my experience, is it's been completely malefic for me! There with my Moon, too, I've experienced a lot of Saturn 12th house, 'losses', due to Sani, including...loss of emotional happiness, sadness, loneliness, lack of money and lots of losses due to too many expenditures.. But, immediately when I started strengthening my Sani, and practicing other jyotish remedies which can be said, to directly improve Saturn....I've noticed a complete turn about in my experience of what was previously a very malefic Saturn... Both, medititation and studying Jyotish, and especially, the daily Transits, all, have had a very powerful effect on allowing me to reap, the more positive, and Benefic qualities of Sani! Hope this helps... Namaste... Mark Kincaid PS....I don't know if you've heard, but I also write a Jyotish newsletter. It includes a daily, Transits newsletter as well as other aspects of Jyotish. If you, or anyone else in this group is interested, in subscribing, feel free to contact me personally at: m.kincaid I, also have a new /message board, called which is a nice blending of both Western & Eastern Astrologys. You can check that out at: / > "padmanu" <padmanu > > Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:40:22 -0000 > > Lagna Lord - Benefic or Malefic > > Namasthe Group, > > In general is the lagna lord always benefic? > > Specifically in my case lagna lord saturn is he benefic or malefic. > I have him in my 5th house in Taurus, > > Details: > Aug 10, 1972 6:30 PM > Bangalore, INDIA > > Thanks > Deepak > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway <http://us.rd./evt=23609/*http://promotions./design_giveaw ay/static/index2.html> - Enter today ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Sponsor / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 11 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:12:58 -0500 Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid 2-& Surya, from Mark Kincaid....4/12...re.... How to tell when a dasa cycle has ended? Dear Surya: I think I answered this already, but now, today, as I'm going through old emails, I see your other question... Basically Just curious to > know how to judge when the cycles end?? The best way to tell if a particular dasa cycle has ended, is to watch them, especially the past ones close enough that you'll be able to tell the difference between the dasas and transits for example. Generally, the dasas, reflect those 3 primary parts of your chart that the 3 planets ruling the 3 major dasas, represent... So, if you're in a Saturn, Mars, Venus period...you can look at those 3 planets in your chart.... and those 3 issues or dramas, or qualities of your chart,...are supposed to be related to the particular dasas that you're presently running... And when you get good enough at 'sensing' this...you'll know....when the periods have changed.... you'll 'feel' it.... hope this helps... Mark Kincaid > surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv > > Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:13:32 -0700 (PDT) > > To Mark - Is Astrology & Christianity, compatible? > > Mark, > > This has caused me many problems intellectually > (Pardon me if Intellect is the wrong thing to use here > ).. > > Lets take a hypothetical case of Person A and Person > B. > > Person A has a karma of having cheated someone > sometime in the past. It's time for him now say to > experience this karma back. Now in comes Person B to > cheat Person A to give back his karma. > > Question is: > a) Both the things should match, it's karma time for A > to get cheated and B to cheat. > b) Now would cheating A again add back as Karma to B? > or will the cycle end for both of them after this? if > yes .. how can we look for these things in astrology? > c) Now ... Karma is impelling A to get cheated and B > to cheat. However say B decides (since free will also > has it';s say) not to do the cheating .. then will B > carry this baggage forward? and Will A escape being > cheated as well? or will some C come into picture and > do the needful? > > Just some brickerings !! Basically Just curious to > know how to judge when the cycles end?? > > > > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote: >> Dear Raman: >> >> Astrology and Christianity are definitely >> compatible... >> >> Remind them of the story of the Christ child & >> birth... >> >> It was 3 wise, men kings who had been led by their >> astrologers....to follow >> the Star! >> why? >> >> to find the Christ child... >> >> So, Astrology's greatest purpose is to help us >> evolve, to find the Spiritual >> nature of life, >> which is beyond the Stars... >> >> The stars, are the path, through which God, >> created.... us..to live to find >> Him.... >> >> I understand the anxiety that is there in >> Christianity, .... but ....anyone >> who understands that anything of value, in the >> relative world, from positive >> thinking seminar, to an economics course, to >> Astrology!...all...can be >> helpful...to help us understand...the true purpose >> of life, is to become >> enlightened! >> >> hope this helps.. >> >> >> Mark K. >> >> ps... in the famous book of one of the founders of >> Astrology; Maharishi >> Parashara, he says: >> >> "in the beginning Lord Vishnu, entered into the >> grahas to bestow upon his >> devotees, the consequences of their actions..." >> >> So, in essence the Planets are really just God, in >> disguise... >> >> I think even Hindus, can learn that Jupiter, >> himself, ...is just the Lord, >> in disguise... >> >> To pray to them, is not as necessary, except the >> extent to which the prayer, >> teaches us how our own actions are causing us our >> griefs... >> >> God, doesn't do anything to us. >> >> God, has 2 rules....#1, God gives us complete >> freedom to doing whatever we >> would like... >> #2...however, we're also going to be help >> accountable for the consequences >> of our actions... >> >> So, we get born with malefic Astrological >> situations, which mean, that God, >> or Nature is innocently giving back to us..the >> product of our 'wrong' of >> imperfect actions, and if by praying we learn how >> better to perform those >> actions,...to turn that malefic into a benefic!... >> >> then the prayer is okay... >> >> hope this answers and helps... >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> Mark Kincaid >> >> >> >> Namaste.... >> >> >> >> >> "Calla, Raman" <rcalla >> >> Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:39:23 -0700 >> <> >> RE: 2- & Deepak, from Mark >> K....4/7......re.... Lagna Lord >> -Benefic or Malefic? >> >> >> Mark: >> >> I have few questions for you: >> >> Jyotish and Christianity, are they compatible ? >> >> For Upaya offering prayer to Jupiter or other planet >> is against the >> Christianity. >> >> I have been asked this question by friend. >> >> Can you talk about it. >> >> regards! >> >> Raman >> >> >> >> Mark Kincaid [m.kincaid] >> Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:48 AM >> >> 2- & Deepak, from Mark >> K....4/7......re.... Lagna Lord -Benefic >> or Malefic? >> >> Dear Deepak & All: >> >> There's actually 2 ways of thinking about the >> relative benefic or malefic >> status of our Planets... >> >> Yes, I think the Lagna Lord is always, 'essentially >> benefic'... >> >> but if the first house lord, is in the 12th house, >> 6th or 8th.... >> then, it may be potentially, benefic, but certainly >> may be found functioning >> as a malefic. >> >> Take the example, too, of Planets that are ruleing >> the traditionally, >> considered, malefic 6th, 8th or 12th houses... >> >> They're generally thought of as malefic, but they >> can certainly be found >> acting benefically, especially if they're in their >> own, sign, or Exalted! >> >> I love what the sage, Mahrishi Parashara was >> supposed to say about the >> planets.. >> >> In the beginning of his book, on Hora Sastra, he >> says: "In the Beginning >> Lord Vishnu entered into the grahas to bestow upon >> his devotees, the >> consequences of their karmas." >> >> I love this expression because it helps me >> understand that basically, >> essentially, all the Planets are benefic or good! >> >> Only sometimes, the lord, radiates back to us, less >> then desirable results, >> to teach us, so we aspire to develop and improve >> that side of us.... >> >> Let's say, someone has Sani, in the 12th House. And >> it's definitely acting >> malefic there! >> >> Ah...take my chart, yikes!,....but having a Libra >> rising my Sani, though >> it's in the 12th house, is still supposed to be >> benefic!, being yogakaraka, >> and all... >> >> but, my experience, is it's been completely malefic >> for me! >> >> There with my Moon, too, I've experienced a lot of >> Saturn 12th house, >> 'losses', due to Sani, including...loss of emotional >> happiness, sadness, >> loneliness, lack of money and lots of losses due to >> too many expenditures.. >> >> But, immediately when I started strengthening my >> Sani, and practicing other >> jyotish remedies which can be said, to directly >> improve Saturn....I've >> noticed a complete turn about in my experience of >> what was previously a very >> malefic Saturn... >> >> Both, medititation and studying Jyotish, and >> especially, the daily Transits, >> > === message truncated === > > > > > Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > http://promotions./design_giveaway/ > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 12 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:06:46 -0700 "Calla, Raman" <rcalla RE: Neeraj ji Thx. Neeraj ji. Now I have emerald in gold and I am wearing every day. Should I buy diamond for my Sukra and put the same one on the ring finger too. It should be in gold or silver, Please advice. Thx, regards ! Raman Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000] Friday, April 09, 2004 10:28 AM RE: Neeraj ji PD - Pryanatar Dasha AD - Antar Dasha Wear in AD's or PD's of moon, but as you have virgo lagna and Moon MD has gone, emerald is better stone for you Regards, Neeraj Gupta --- "Calla, Raman" <rcalla wrote: > Sorry; Neeraj ji. > What is Pds of Moon. > > > Neeraj Gupta > [gupta_neeraj_2000] > Thursday, April 08, 2004 4:47 AM > > RE: Neeraj ji > > > Dear Raman Ji, > > You can wear it in PDs of moon. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > --- "Calla, Raman" <rcalla wrote: > > Neeraji: > > > > Then I cannot wear moon, because Moon MD was from > > my birth to 1966. > > Any suggestions. ? > > > > regards! > > > > Raman > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:24 PM > > > > RE: Neeraj ji > > > > > > yes, you can wear a moti (above 5 ratti) in silver > > in > > small finger (fourth finger) but it would help you > > if > > you wear it in Moon MD. Also do not wear, emerald > or > > blue sapphire with moti. > > > > Yes, mothi should not have a hole in it. Buy white > > color moti natural one (not cultured). > > > > Regards, > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > --- "Calla, Raman" <rcalla wrote: > > > It is Dec 06,1958 at 2.01 AM at Jodhpur. > > > Now I am at San Diego, California. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > > Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:29 PM > > > > > > RE: Neeraj ji > > > > > > > > > Dear Raman Ji, > > > > > > May I have your birth details or .JHD file > please? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > --- "Calla, Raman" <rcalla wrote: > > > > Neeraj ji: > > > > > > > > I have Rahu and Moon in Virgo Lagan. > > > > Should I wear Moti ( Size and color) in > silver. > > > > I have been told that Moti should not have > hole > > in > > > > it. > > > > > > > > regards! > > > > > > > > Raman > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > > > Mon 3/22/2004 2:06 AM > > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > RE: Re: Please Analyze > this > > > chart!.- > > > > - - ->Neeraj ji/ Sanjay li ,could you take > look? > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > > > > > Dear Raman, > > > > > > > > Yes, Pooja has to be done before wearing > a > > > ring. I > > > > suggest you to change the size of your > > ring > > > as per > > > > your finger. > > > > > > > > Immerse the ring in rose water in Glass > > Pot > > > on > > > > tuesday > > > > night. Wednesday morning, wash the ring > > with > > > normal > > > > water and then rinse it thrice in a > > mixture > > > of > > > > Milk, > > > > Ganga Jal (or ordinary water, if not > > > available) and > > > > Sugar. > > > > > > > > Then, keeping the ring in front of you, > > > chant the > > > > mantra "Om Bum Buddhaye Namah" atleast > 108 > > > times. > > > > Touch the ring with your forehead and > ask > > > God for > > > > his > > > > Blessings, then wear the ring. > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > --- "Calla, Raman" <rcalla > > > wrote: > > > > > So, Neeraj ji/ Sanjay as I am Virgo, > I > > > can wear > > > > > Emerald ring in my right hand's little > > > finger. > > > > > Do I have do some puja before I wear > it > > > first > > > > time. > > > > > I keeping it tie tpo my my Junai for > > time > > > being > > > > > (because ring is small). Is that ok. > > > > > > > > > > RC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000] > > > > > Sun 3/21/2004 10:11 AM > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > Re: Re: Please > > Analyze > > > this > > > > chart!.- > > > > > - - ->Neeraj ji,could you take look? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally only planet of Lagna > > Lord > > > in worn > > > > in > > > > > right > > > > > hand, if needed stones of 5th > and > > > 9th lord > > > > can be > > > > > worn > > > > > in right hand or round the neck. > > We > > > don't > > > > have to > > > > > wear > > > > > stones of all planets. For > malefic > > > plaents, > > > > one can > > > > > chant mantra or donate on their > > > specific > > > > days (when > > > > > dasha is operative, or giving > > > negative > > > > effect) > > > > > > === message truncated === ===== Open Demat Account - Fast, Safe and Secure http://www.neerajgupta.com/demat.htm Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions./design_giveaway/ ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ <http://rd./SIG=12c9i2261/M=290828.4794622.5939935.1261774/D=eg roupweb/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1081618060/A=1950447/R=0/SIG=124ri7d3j/*http ://ashnin.com/clk/muryutaitakenattogyo?YH=4794622&yhad=1950447> click here <http://us.adserver./l?M=290828.4794622.5939935.1261774/D=egrou pweb/S=:HM/A=1950447/rand=479542755> _____ * / * <?subject=Un > * Terms of Service <> . [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 13 Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:36:09 -0500 Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid 2-& Souvik: from Mark K....4/12...re.... Astrology + Christianity + Islam: From Souvik #2 Dear Souvik: See below: Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:51:02 -0700 (PDT) To Mark, Tanvir and JR: Astrology + Christianity + Islam: From Souvik Hi Members, What I am writing now is a result of motivation and energy I received from a wonderful posting by Mark Kincaid on Astrology and Christianity. However, what I write now is completely my view and may differ from the readers. Religion is a sensitive and personal issue and one should be very careful when commenting on such issues. I agree, here 200%.... I believe all of us have a personal relationship with our own God, within which is perhaps the most important relationship in life! So I would just mention some statistical and classified data and end the mail with a question. Christianity:(Mark correct me if I am wrong in any of the below) Christians "worship" (or pray , or observe religious concerns) on Sunday. USA (dominantly) a Christian nation "domiantes" the world activities. WTC and the threats to US occured during the Moon dasa of US. America starts with the letter 'A', supossedly a representation of the 'SUN' I believe, in general, that the primary reason all people's....whether in the West... or East....are able to manifest their dreams and fulfill their desires.... if they believe in themselves...or yes....in their Suns! Though I think it's kind of coincidental, that the Sun, is the day of the Sun.... Though it is interesting that we have the same English word for it... Sun..and 'Sun'day! hehhee But, I believe the principle is the same, regardless of what you believe, or pray, those who are more strong with their Sun's...are more powerful... I recently came across Sadam Hussein's chart...and whoa!!! He had an Exalted Sun in his chart! but,...he also had a debilitated Moon with a Mars in Scorpio in his first house, both of which are more characteristic of a meanness, and un-godlikeness. He certainly was a leader, though, so the Sun is true for that! Islam: (Tanvir, let me know if I am wrong in this) Muslims ""worship" (or pray , or observe religious concerns) on Friday. Islam (perhaps) has the largest followers (Muslims) in the world. Women (Venus) are reverred in Islam and highly respected in the original form of Islam Women are safe gaurded and considered prized "possesions" in Islam Muslims are the greatest cooks (Venus) in the world. This is interesting, I didn't know this.... But, you might also ask, why do they honor their women more...? What is it about their, 'natures' that contributes to that... In any case, we need to look at the specifics of every person's chart, to see literally how and which planets they honor! Jyotish has such a fabulous understanding about this... Those planets that are strong, either in friendly signs, or in their Own Signs, or Exalted! those are the one's you've honored....the best! And the malefic one's are one's you've ignored....or didn't develop enough from the past... Just think how great this would be to look at our Children's chart, and be able to see, where they're 'presently undeveloped in... And where Venus is weak, teach them about love... Where the Sun is weak, teach them about their Sun Selfs! and where the Moon is weak, teach them about their 'feminie' side, and especially about their Hearts,...or Moon! The Moon, she teaches us every day! One day, the Moon is here, the next, she is there... She's here and there... She's Waxing and Waning.... She not only teaches us about herself... but also about how....to grow, how to evolve.... through alternating steps of rest and activity.... One week, the Moon is Waning, like now, and in 7 day's the moon will begin Waxing or getting bigger... Watch and see, if you don't feel the Moon! If you find, the Moon is real, and represents a very real, quality of your own, inner experience, then,.... by embracing the Moon more,...notice...that your own Moon, grows, too! Jai Ma! Please do ponder upon the few lines I have written and please do let me know ur views. I am sure you will find the emperical pattern of human religion!! Are we above celestial concerns? Regards, Souvik PS....I don't know if you've heard, but I also write a Jyotish newsletter. It includes a daily, Transits newsletter as well as other aspects of Jyotish as well. If you, or anyone else in this group is interested, in subscribing, feel free to contact me personally at: m.kincaid I, also have a new /message board, called which is a nice blending of both Western & Eastern Astrologys. You can check that out at: / Mark Kincaid Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway <http://us.rd./evt=23609/*http://promotions./design_giveaw ay/static/index2.html> - Enter today ~! 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[This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 14 Tue, 13 Apr 2004 00:38:04 -0000 "hamendra_c" <hamendra_c PLEASE HELP!(Members) hello everyone, I have Some more queries regarding kendradhipati dosha & Would be very thankful some one could answer those.It pertains to my chart. i have My birth details: Date of Birth-29-02-1980 Time of Birth- 1:37 pm Place of Birth-Chandigarh Counntry of Birth-India Gemini-ascendant Mooni in cancer(2nd House) Rahu,Mars,Jupiter in Leo(3rd House) Saturn in Virgo(4TH house) Sun,Mercury,Ketu in Aquarius,(9TH House) Venus in Pisces(10th House) 1.As you can see even i have kendradhipati Dosha due to Jupiters Lordhsip of 7th & 10th House,Could You please tell me that what are the bad effects that would be felt due to the presence of this dosha in my horoscope and does the presence of Jupiter in 3rd House alleviate or cancel out this dosha? 2.My second query is regarding VRY ,Do u think Saturn in (4th House) and ruling over dushtana house 8th & Venus in (10th House) ruling over Dushtana House 12 Th ,and Mutually aspecting each other form a VRY,i mean can this mutual aspect between Saturn & Venus Lead to Vipareet Raja Yoga? 3.My third and last query is regardig employment.When am i likely to get a job and where,i mean India or abroad.Currently I am doing MSc in Electronics In U.K and my first degree is electronics engineering. I shall be highly indebted if some one could asnwer these queries. Thanks Hamendra. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 15 Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:54:57 -0000 "OM" <explore_vulcan To Flick, Tanvir and Inderji: Pink II & Shubho Noboborsho: From Souvik Friends (Flick, Tanvir and Inderji)and members, Now even I am confused. Yes, I get the point Tanvir is trying to make. The correspondence of the color of Ruby (pink) to Sun. I know that whatever this young man (Tanvir) says, has a point in it. Please can someone clear our doubts. My acceptance of Inderji's theory was mainly because of the fact that in ancient England, pink was the color recognised or worn by un- married young ladies. Even today, pink is generally the favourite color of girls, if I may say so as I the female mind has always remained a perplexing thing for me Well, Tanvir I didnot check ur website though recently. I will surely do so. U r absoluetly correct with the color of Ruby. Dear Tanvir just a request, call me Souvik please Let us get more views on Pink, please as Sun Enters Aries ..... For all Bengalis, Shubho Noboborsho!! Regards, Souvik , "Tanvir Chowdhury" <lord_narayana@l...> wrote: > Dear Souvik Jee, > > In my experiments I have found that pink is the colour of Sun. I am > 100% sure of this from my side. You put a ruby-star [sun's gem] over > light, you will see that it's colour is actually a dark pink. The > colour of the stones give almost the same info about the colour of > particular planets. > > Flick is right about my website suggesting pink for sun. You can see > all my colour-recommendations from there. > > In my site or other writings I never remember to mention/write what I > have just read without testing it. Most of what I write and tell is > purely mine :-) May be that is why my area is limited, too. > > Regards > Tanvir. > > > , "OM" <explore_vulcan> > wrote: > > Hi Flick and Inderji, > > > > I absolutely agree with Inderji. Pink is the color for Venus. This > is > > in line with Islamic belief also. > > > > Tanvir, please do comment on this. Isn't there the mention of Pink > in > > Lal Kitab? > > > > Regards, > > Souvik > > > > , Flick <rubysun@n...> wrote: > > > Inder, thank you. Oh, dear, yet another opinion...this is so > > confusing. > > > > > > On 11/4/04 7:23 am, "indervohra2001" <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > Pink is colour of Venus and Moon. > > > > I wish you a happy and pink moods. > > > > Inder > > > > -- In , Flick <rubysun@n...> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > > > >> > > > >> I would be grateful if someone could tell me whether pink is a > > > > colour for > > > >> the sun or Mars. > > > >> > > > >> Many thanks, > > > >> > > > >> Flick. > > > >> Author website: > > > >> http://www.witchcraft.org/elenhawke.htm > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 16 Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:15:55 -0000 "ttaggar" <merabakwas Reconfirmation Hi All, My sister has been told by 2 separate people that she will be married by the end of August or not for the next 3 years.... Given that there is no one on the scene at the moment, we all think this is almost impossible.... She is anxious to find out when and where she will be married.. Thanks D.O.B. 9 Feb 1980 Place: New Delhi Time: 19:10 pm ______________________ ______________________ Message: 17 Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:08:56 +0100 Flick <rubysun Re: To Flick, Tanvir and Inderji: Re: Pink: From Souvik Tanvir, I think both are right. My western moon is in Taurus (Aries for Vedic) and I do love the western Venus colours, the pinks, mauves and greens. However, the pink I've been attracted to lately is a redder pink, no blue in it. My sun is weak in shadbhalla and this colour gives me energy. And, as you say, rubies are really a pinkish red, not London bus red the way people think. There are many different ideas within correspondences, for both western and eastern spiritual systems, and sometimes these idea conflict, but they still work for the people using them. I think the best way is the one you've used: to test out for yourself and see what works. This is the way students are trained in western magical techniques (by which I mean astrology, tarot etc). Flick. Author website: http://www.witchcraft.org/elenhawke.htm On 12/4/04 1:52 pm, "Tanvir Chowdhury" <lord_narayana wrote: > Dear Souvik Jee, > > In my experiments I have found that pink is the colour of Sun. I am > 100% sure of this from my side. You put a ruby-star [sun's gem] over > light, you will see that it's colour is actually a dark pink. The > colour of the stones give almost the same info about the colour of > particular planets. > > Flick is right about my website suggesting pink for sun. You can see > all my colour-recommendations from there. > > In my site or other writings I never remember to mention/write what I > have just read without testing it. Most of what I write and tell is > purely mine :-) May be that is why my area is limited, too. > > Regards > Tanvir. > > > , "OM" <explore_vulcan> > wrote: >> Hi Flick and Inderji, >> >> I absolutely agree with Inderji. Pink is the color for Venus. This > is >> in line with Islamic belief also. >> >> Tanvir, please do comment on this. Isn't there the mention of Pink > in >> Lal Kitab? >> >> Regards, >> Souvik >> >> , Flick <rubysun@n...> wrote: >>> Inder, thank you. Oh, dear, yet another opinion...this is so >> confusing. >>> >>> On 11/4/04 7:23 am, "indervohra2001" <indervohra2001> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear , >>>> Pink is colour of Venus and Moon. >>>> I wish you a happy and pink moods. >>>> Inder >>>> -- In , Flick <rubysun@n...> >> wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I would be grateful if someone could tell me whether pink is a >>>> colour for >>>>> the sun or Mars. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Flick. >>>>> Author website: >>>>> http://www.witchcraft.org/elenhawke.htm >>>> ______________________ ______________________ ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ ------ ------ Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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