To Rajeev, Venkata and Manas & JR: Mars and a thought: From Souvik

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Hi Friends,

 

Thanks for all the comments.

 

Manas, can we document the circumstances under which we would be able

to distinguish between:

1. assertive and agressive and

2. dynamic/energetic/motivated

nature of Mars.

 

This difference is so very correct. Indeed there are people who are

motivated and yet not aggressive. Great comment Manas.

 

Rajeev, your example of river Saraswati is just as appropriate as it

could be. Very well suited.

 

Friends and Members, can we make a bible or veda on Mars.

 

Venkata, Rajeev, Manas and all others who are interested in this

study, can we the members of JR not come together and put our

thoughts and experiences together to form an ultimate work of

reference on celestial beings?

 

May be an utopian concept but just a thought and some time from all

of us can create history in the science of astrology, can't it?

 

Well, comming to more pragmatic concerns, yes, the house and zodiac

of Mars is very important as very correctly put by Rajeev.

 

However, Rajeev, I always had this question the answer of which I am

still in search of. In the history of mankind, wars have taken place

only when there has been an opposition to the vitality of mars by

some "opposite" natured entity like Rahu or Saturn.

 

Is this phenomenon true for individual horoscopes?

Does presence of Mars in Capricorn always make individuals "fight"?

Is there a connection between the natal charts of the times in human

history that wars took place to the charts of the people who fought

the battle?

 

 

Can any one point such resemblence or differences, please!

 

Any comment is welcome....please do comment that is

 

Regards,

 

Souvik

 

 

 

 

, Dwivedula venkata

<rdwivedula> wrote:

> Thanks for the email.

>

>

> --- Rajeev Tadepalli

> <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote:

> > Dear Souvik,

> >

> > Your observation is right. Mars in the ascendant

> > give the native a lot of enterprise and drive.

> > I am a Taurus ascendant with Mars in it. I

> > confirm your observation out of my experience.

> >

> > You see, in Triveni Sangamam, River Saraswati is,

> > Antarvahini, that is it flows through underground

> > and seen by people.

> > The other two rivers flow on the surface of earth

> > to

> > be seen and polluted by people.

> >

> > So this energy, drive, enterprise etc flow

> > subversively and are not apparent.

> >

> > Whether this Martian energy is exhibited

> > externally

> > or not is highly dependent of the Ascendent Sign.

> >

> > Some Ascendants like Leo, Saggitarius etc. It can

> > be

> > observed externally in behaviour.

> >

> > There is a tendency for these natives to be

> > adamant.

> > Apparantly they seem to be agreeing but eventually

> >

> > be taking their own course unless convinced of the

> > over view point.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > , "Manas

> > Kumar"

> > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:

> > > I distinguish between assertive and agressive

> > (subject of the

> > post)

> > > and dynamic/energetic/motivated.

> > >

> > > , srik rami

> > <srikrami>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I think it does, either when placed with

> > ascendent lord or in

> > > ascendent. They will be dynamic and highly

> > motivated with inner

> > > martian force.

> > > >

> > > > Sharma

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Manas Kumar <manaskumar@h...> wrote: Put a

> > soldier in the

> > > warfield, he will fight, put him to pasture, he

> > > > will wither away. Mars gets exalted in capricorn

> > but debilitated

> > > in

> > > > cancer!

> > > >

> > > > Mars may not always be associated with

> > aggression, just like

> > other

> > > > stereotypes are not 100% accurate. Astrology has

> > its own set of

> > > > stereotypical ankle chains ;-)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "OM"

> > > <explore_vulcan>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Hi Manas,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is an excellent point brought out by you.

> > A month back, I

> > > > wrote

> > > > > a document (wars of the world), where I

> > pointed out that most

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > disasters took place in history when there was

> > Mars Opposed by

> > > > some

> > > > > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive

> > nature of humans

> > cannot

> > > > be

> > > > > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna

> > Lord alone.

> > There

> > > > has

> > > > > to be a some opposition.

> > > > >

> > > > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom

> > Cruise, MIssion

> > > > ImpossibleII

> > > > >

> > > > > Do let me know ur views,

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Souvik

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > "Manas Kumar"

> > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but

> > in 7th house

> > with

> > > > > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders

> > took place in

> > > rahu's

> > > > > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where

> > venus, mercury and

> > > mars

> > > > > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right

> > across from the

> > > > third

> > > > > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with

> > ketu. Chandal-

> > > > gajkeshari.

> > > > > > It is interesting that mercury plays a

> > significant role as

> > > does

> > > > > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were

> > carried out by other

> > > > > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by

> > him. Much to

> > > explore

> > > > in

> > > > > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma

> > Gandhi's chart,

> > as

> > > > well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi ebody,

> > > > > > > I got some doubts while observing

> > neighbours chield

> > > horoscope

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one

> > agressive/fighter,as i

> > > > > observed

> > > > > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting

> > behaviour

> > > > > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house)

> > > > > > > does this chield need any remedies to

> > become a calm boy

> > > > > > > in this horoscope

> > > > > > > 1.five planets combusted

> > > > > > > 2. five planets in 12th house

> > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in

> > 12th house as

> > they

> > > > form

> > > > > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > birth data:

> > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000

> > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST)

> > > > > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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How about beginning with the horoscopes of Gandhi vs Hitler? Same

ascendant, similar mars but what a different spectrum of expression

and so on!

 

Enjoy!

 

 

, "OM" <explore_vulcan>

wrote:

> Hi Friends,

>

> Thanks for all the comments.

>

> Manas, can we document the circumstances under which we would be

able

> to distinguish between:

> 1. assertive and agressive and

> 2. dynamic/energetic/motivated

> nature of Mars.

>

> This difference is so very correct. Indeed there are people who

are

> motivated and yet not aggressive. Great comment Manas.

>

> Rajeev, your example of river Saraswati is just as appropriate as

it

> could be. Very well suited.

>

> Friends and Members, can we make a bible or veda on Mars.

>

> Venkata, Rajeev, Manas and all others who are interested in this

> study, can we the members of JR not come together and put our

> thoughts and experiences together to form an ultimate work of

> reference on celestial beings?

>

> May be an utopian concept but just a thought and some time from

all

> of us can create history in the science of astrology, can't it?

>

> Well, comming to more pragmatic concerns, yes, the house and

zodiac

> of Mars is very important as very correctly put by Rajeev.

>

> However, Rajeev, I always had this question the answer of which I

am

> still in search of. In the history of mankind, wars have taken

place

> only when there has been an opposition to the vitality of mars by

> some "opposite" natured entity like Rahu or Saturn.

>

> Is this phenomenon true for individual horoscopes?

> Does presence of Mars in Capricorn always make individuals "fight"?

> Is there a connection between the natal charts of the times in

human

> history that wars took place to the charts of the people who

fought

> the battle?

>

>

> Can any one point such resemblence or differences, please!

>

> Any comment is welcome....please do comment that is

>

> Regards,

>

> Souvik

>

>

>

>

> , Dwivedula venkata

> <rdwivedula> wrote:

> > Thanks for the email.

> >

> >

> > --- Rajeev Tadepalli

> > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote:

> > > Dear Souvik,

> > >

> > > Your observation is right. Mars in the ascendant

> > > give the native a lot of enterprise and drive.

> > > I am a Taurus ascendant with Mars in it. I

> > > confirm your observation out of my experience.

> > >

> > > You see, in Triveni Sangamam, River Saraswati is,

> > > Antarvahini, that is it flows through underground

> > > and seen by people.

> > > The other two rivers flow on the surface of earth

> > > to

> > > be seen and polluted by people.

> > >

> > > So this energy, drive, enterprise etc flow

> > > subversively and are not apparent.

> > >

> > > Whether this Martian energy is exhibited

> > > externally

> > > or not is highly dependent of the Ascendent Sign.

> > >

> > > Some Ascendants like Leo, Saggitarius etc. It can

> > > be

> > > observed externally in behaviour.

> > >

> > > There is a tendency for these natives to be

> > > adamant.

> > > Apparantly they seem to be agreeing but eventually

> > >

> > > be taking their own course unless convinced of the

> > > over view point.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > , "Manas

> > > Kumar"

> > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:

> > > > I distinguish between assertive and agressive

> > > (subject of the

> > > post)

> > > > and dynamic/energetic/motivated.

> > > >

> > > > , srik rami

> > > <srikrami>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I think it does, either when placed with

> > > ascendent lord or in

> > > > ascendent. They will be dynamic and highly

> > > motivated with inner

> > > > martian force.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sharma

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Manas Kumar <manaskumar@h...> wrote: Put a

> > > soldier in the

> > > > warfield, he will fight, put him to pasture, he

> > > > > will wither away. Mars gets exalted in capricorn

> > > but debilitated

> > > > in

> > > > > cancer!

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars may not always be associated with

> > > aggression, just like

> > > other

> > > > > stereotypes are not 100% accurate. Astrology has

> > > its own set of

> > > > > stereotypical ankle chains ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "OM"

> > > > <explore_vulcan>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Hi Manas,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is an excellent point brought out by you.

> > > A month back, I

> > > > > wrote

> > > > > > a document (wars of the world), where I

> > > pointed out that most

> > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > disasters took place in history when there was

> > > Mars Opposed by

> > > > > some

> > > > > > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive

> > > nature of humans

> > > cannot

> > > > > be

> > > > > > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna

> > > Lord alone.

> > > There

> > > > > has

> > > > > > to be a some opposition.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom

> > > Cruise, MIssion

> > > > > ImpossibleII

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do let me know ur views,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Souvik

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > "Manas Kumar"

> > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but

> > > in 7th house

> > > with

> > > > > > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders

> > > took place in

> > > > rahu's

> > > > > > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where

> > > venus, mercury and

> > > > mars

> > > > > > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right

> > > across from the

> > > > > third

> > > > > > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with

> > > ketu. Chandal-

> > > > > gajkeshari.

> > > > > > > It is interesting that mercury plays a

> > > significant role as

> > > > does

> > > > > > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were

> > > carried out by other

> > > > > > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by

> > > him. Much to

> > > > explore

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma

> > > Gandhi's chart,

> > > as

> > > > > well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hi ebody,

> > > > > > > > I got some doubts while observing

> > > neighbours chield

> > > > horoscope

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one

> > > agressive/fighter,as i

> > > > > > observed

> > > > > > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting

> > > behaviour

> > > > > > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house)

> > > > > > > > does this chield need any remedies to

> > > become a calm boy

> > > > > > > > in this horoscope

> > > > > > > > 1.five planets combusted

> > > > > > > > 2. five planets in 12th house

> > > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in

> > > 12th house as

> > > they

> > > > > form

> > > > > > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > birth data:

> > > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000

> > > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST)

> > > > > > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS

> > > SURVIVAL !~

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Links

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > /

> > > > >

> > > > > To from this group, send an email

> > > to:

> > > > >

> > > > >

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