To Manas & JR: Hitler & Gandhi: From Souvik

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Hi Manas,

 

I agree. I will study them and let u know my views. These can go as

test cases to our proposed document on Mars

 

Regards,

 

Souvik

 

, "Manas Kumar"

<manaskumar@h...> wrote:

> How about beginning with the horoscopes of Gandhi vs Hitler? Same

> ascendant, similar mars but what a different spectrum of expression

> and so on!

>

> Enjoy!

>

>

> , "OM" <explore_vulcan>

> wrote:

> > Hi Friends,

> >

> > Thanks for all the comments.

> >

> > Manas, can we document the circumstances under which we would be

> able

> > to distinguish between:

> > 1. assertive and agressive and

> > 2. dynamic/energetic/motivated

> > nature of Mars.

> >

> > This difference is so very correct. Indeed there are people who

> are

> > motivated and yet not aggressive. Great comment Manas.

> >

> > Rajeev, your example of river Saraswati is just as appropriate as

> it

> > could be. Very well suited.

> >

> > Friends and Members, can we make a bible or veda on Mars.

> >

> > Venkata, Rajeev, Manas and all others who are interested in this

> > study, can we the members of JR not come together and put our

> > thoughts and experiences together to form an ultimate work of

> > reference on celestial beings?

> >

> > May be an utopian concept but just a thought and some time from

> all

> > of us can create history in the science of astrology, can't it?

> >

> > Well, comming to more pragmatic concerns, yes, the house and

> zodiac

> > of Mars is very important as very correctly put by Rajeev.

> >

> > However, Rajeev, I always had this question the answer of which I

> am

> > still in search of. In the history of mankind, wars have taken

> place

> > only when there has been an opposition to the vitality of mars by

> > some "opposite" natured entity like Rahu or Saturn.

> >

> > Is this phenomenon true for individual horoscopes?

> > Does presence of Mars in Capricorn always make

individuals "fight"?

> > Is there a connection between the natal charts of the times in

> human

> > history that wars took place to the charts of the people who

> fought

> > the battle?

> >

> >

> > Can any one point such resemblence or differences, please!

> >

> > Any comment is welcome....please do comment that is

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Souvik

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Dwivedula venkata

> > <rdwivedula> wrote:

> > > Thanks for the email.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Rajeev Tadepalli

> > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Souvik,

> > > >

> > > > Your observation is right. Mars in the

ascendant

> > > > give the native a lot of enterprise and drive.

> > > > I am a Taurus ascendant with Mars in it.

I

> > > > confirm your observation out of my experience.

> > > >

> > > > You see, in Triveni Sangamam, River Saraswati

is,

> > > > Antarvahini, that is it flows through underground

> > > > and seen by people.

> > > > The other two rivers flow on the surface of

earth

> > > > to

> > > > be seen and polluted by people.

> > > >

> > > > So this energy, drive, enterprise etc flow

> > > > subversively and are not apparent.

> > > >

> > > > Whether this Martian energy is exhibited

> > > > externally

> > > > or not is highly dependent of the Ascendent Sign.

> > > >

> > > > Some Ascendants like Leo, Saggitarius etc. It

can

> > > > be

> > > > observed externally in behaviour.

> > > >

> > > > There is a tendency for these natives to be

> > > > adamant.

> > > > Apparantly they seem to be agreeing but

eventually

> > > >

> > > > be taking their own course unless convinced of the

> > > > over view point.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > , "Manas

> > > > Kumar"

> > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:

> > > > > I distinguish between assertive and agressive

> > > > (subject of the

> > > > post)

> > > > > and dynamic/energetic/motivated.

> > > > >

> > > > > , srik rami

> > > > <srikrami>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think it does, either when placed with

> > > > ascendent lord or in

> > > > > ascendent. They will be dynamic and highly

> > > > motivated with inner

> > > > > martian force.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manas Kumar <manaskumar@h...> wrote: Put a

> > > > soldier in the

> > > > > warfield, he will fight, put him to pasture, he

> > > > > > will wither away. Mars gets exalted in capricorn

> > > > but debilitated

> > > > > in

> > > > > > cancer!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars may not always be associated with

> > > > aggression, just like

> > > > other

> > > > > > stereotypes are not 100% accurate. Astrology has

> > > > its own set of

> > > > > > stereotypical ankle chains ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "OM"

> > > > > <explore_vulcan>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi Manas,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is an excellent point brought out by you.

> > > > A month back, I

> > > > > > wrote

> > > > > > > a document (wars of the world), where I

> > > > pointed out that most

> > > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > disasters took place in history when there was

> > > > Mars Opposed by

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive

> > > > nature of humans

> > > > cannot

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna

> > > > Lord alone.

> > > > There

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > to be a some opposition.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom

> > > > Cruise, MIssion

> > > > > > ImpossibleII

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do let me know ur views,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Souvik

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > "Manas Kumar"

> > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but

> > > > in 7th house

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders

> > > > took place in

> > > > > rahu's

> > > > > > > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where

> > > > venus, mercury and

> > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right

> > > > across from the

> > > > > > third

> > > > > > > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with

> > > > ketu. Chandal-

> > > > > > gajkeshari.

> > > > > > > > It is interesting that mercury plays a

> > > > significant role as

> > > > > does

> > > > > > > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were

> > > > carried out by other

> > > > > > > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by

> > > > him. Much to

> > > > > explore

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma

> > > > Gandhi's chart,

> > > > as

> > > > > > well.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Hi ebody,

> > > > > > > > > I got some doubts while observing

> > > > neighbours chield

> > > > > horoscope

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one

> > > > agressive/fighter,as i

> > > > > > > observed

> > > > > > > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting

> > > > behaviour

> > > > > > > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house)

> > > > > > > > > does this chield need any remedies to

> > > > become a calm boy

> > > > > > > > > in this horoscope

> > > > > > > > > 1.five planets combusted

> > > > > > > > > 2. five planets in 12th house

> > > > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in

> > > > 12th house as

> > > > they

> > > > > > form

> > > > > > > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > birth data:

> > > > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000

> > > > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST)

> > > > > > > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20

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