Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Hi Raman, 7th.house Mars+Ketu in Libra means, Mars more powerful and in direct opposition to Rahu. Thus an inborn "fighting spirit" predominates the native Regards, Souvik , "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> wrote: > Ketu and Mars. > > He has in 7 house and He is Aries. > > > Regards! > > Raman > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > Thu 4/15/2004 11:56 PM > > Cc: > To Parvatishankar:Mars+Ketu:From Souvik > > > Hi Parvatishankar, > > Mars+Ketu conjunction is DEADLY. > > Yes, if Mars dominates then Ketu addes the analytical power to the > activity and the person becomes almost invinsible. > > However, if Ketu dominates, the whole energy is devoted to > the "analysis" of the Ultimate and the Truth. > > In both cases, the aspect or conjunction of Mars+Ketu is noteworthy. > > I have seen such cases too in my life. > > Regards, > > Souvik > > , "parvatishankar" > <parvatishankar> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have friend with Mars and Ketu in taurus ascendant...i have heard > > that ketu behaves like mars, this perhaps acts like a double mars > in > > ascendant... > > > > i have never met a person oozing so much of martian male > > energy...he's downright aggressive, dominating and adamant...no one > > can change his mind on anything that it's set upon...whatever the > > trouble he faces it, rather dares it! ...and i have observed that > > with some strange inner drive and determination he continues to > work > > for it! > > > > ....there's another friend with an exalted mars in lagna but a > > retrograde exalted mars...the difference is quite astounding...he > > looks slightly like a mars-ruled person but the the restless mars > > energy has been diverted inward!...anger surfaces when he's drunk! > > his girlfriend complained that he used to beat her up when drunk! i > > have seen him violent a couple of times and have been shocked > because > > otherwise he's quite a soft spoken, amiable fellow! exalted mars > > retrograde can be quite deceptive! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "khallopapa" > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > From my observation...I feel Mars strong in any chart(not only > > > ascendent) gives a lot of enterprise and drive to the native. I > am > > > still a learner though:-) > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > , "Rajeev Tadepalli" > > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > > > > Dear Souvik, > > > > > > > > Your observation is right. Mars in the ascendant > > > > give the native a lot of enterprise and drive. > > > > I am a Taurus ascendant with Mars in it. I > > > > confirm your observation out of my experience. > > > > > > > > You see, in Triveni Sangamam, River Saraswati is, > > > > Antarvahini, that is it flows through underground and seen by > > > people. > > > > The other two rivers flow on the surface of earth to > > > > be seen and polluted by people. > > > > > > > > So this energy, drive, enterprise etc flow > > > > subversively and are not apparent. > > > > > > > > Whether this Martian energy is exhibited externally > > > > or not is highly dependent of the Ascendent Sign. > > > > > > > > Some Ascendants like Leo, Saggitarius etc. It can be > > > > observed externally in behaviour. > > > > > > > > There is a tendency for these natives to be adamant. > > > > Apparantly they seem to be agreeing but eventually > > > > be taking their own course unless convinced of the over view > > point. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > , "Manas Kumar" > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > > > > I distinguish between assertive and agressive (subject of the > > > > post) > > > > > and dynamic/energetic/motivated. > > > > > > > > > > , srik rami > > > <srikrami> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it does, either when placed with ascendent lord or > in > > > > > ascendent. They will be dynamic and highly motivated with > inner > > > > > martian force. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manas Kumar <manaskumar@h...> wrote: Put a soldier in the > > > > > warfield, he will fight, put him to pasture, he > > > > > > will wither away. Mars gets exalted in capricorn but > > > debilitated > > > > > in > > > > > > cancer! > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars may not always be associated with aggression, just > like > > > > other > > > > > > stereotypes are not 100% accurate. Astrology has its own > set > > > of > > > > > > stereotypical ankle chains ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "OM" > > > > > <explore_vulcan> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Manas, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an excellent point brought out by you. A month > > back, > > > I > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > a document (wars of the world), where I pointed out that > > > most > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > disasters took place in history when there was Mars > Opposed > > > by > > > > > > some > > > > > > > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive nature of humans > > > > cannot > > > > > > be > > > > > > > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna Lord alone. > > > > There > > > > > > has > > > > > > > to be a some opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom Cruise, MIssion > > > > > > ImpossibleII > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do let me know ur views, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manas Kumar" > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but in 7th > house > > > > with > > > > > > > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders took place > in > > > > > rahu's > > > > > > > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where venus, mercury > > > and > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right across > from > > > the > > > > > > third > > > > > > > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with ketu. Chandal- > > > > > > gajkeshari. > > > > > > > > It is interesting that mercury plays a significant role > > as > > > > > does > > > > > > > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were carried out by > > > other > > > > > > > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by him. Much > to > > > > > explore > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma Gandhi's > > chart, > > > > as > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "ssz_dreams" > > > > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi ebody, > > > > > > > > > I got some doubts while observing neighbours chield > > > > > horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one > > agressive/fighter,as > > > i > > > > > > > observed > > > > > > > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting behaviour > > > > > > > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house) > > > > > > > > > does this chield need any remedies to become a calm > boy > > > > > > > > > in this horoscope > > > > > > > > > 1.five planets combusted > > > > > > > > > 2. five planets in 12th house > > > > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in 12th house > as > > > > they > > > > > > form > > > > > > > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth data: > > > > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000 > > > > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST) > > > > > > > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 But Souvik Ji you are calling it deadly. Fighting Spirit is good any way. Please give more on that. regards! Raaman OM [explore_vulcan] Sun 4/18/2004 9:49 PM Cc: To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik Hi Raman, 7th.house Mars+Ketu in Libra means, Mars more powerful and in direct opposition to Rahu. Thus an inborn "fighting spirit" predominates the native Regards, Souvik , "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> wrote: > Ketu and Mars. > > He has in 7 house and He is Aries. > > > Regards! > > Raman > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > Thu 4/15/2004 11:56 PM > > Cc: > To Parvatishankar:Mars+Ketu:From Souvik > > > Hi Parvatishankar, > > Mars+Ketu conjunction is DEADLY. > > Yes, if Mars dominates then Ketu addes the analytical power to the > activity and the person becomes almost invinsible. > > However, if Ketu dominates, the whole energy is devoted to > the "analysis" of the Ultimate and the Truth. > > In both cases, the aspect or conjunction of Mars+Ketu is noteworthy. > > I have seen such cases too in my life. > > Regards, > > Souvik > > , "parvatishankar" > <parvatishankar> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have friend with Mars and Ketu in taurus ascendant...i have heard > > that ketu behaves like mars, this perhaps acts like a double mars > in > > ascendant... > > > > i have never met a person oozing so much of martian male > > energy...he's downright aggressive, dominating and adamant...no one > > can change his mind on anything that it's set upon...whatever the > > trouble he faces it, rather dares it! ...and i have observed that > > with some strange inner drive and determination he continues to > work > > for it! > > > > ....there's another friend with an exalted mars in lagna but a > > retrograde exalted mars...the difference is quite astounding...he > > looks slightly like a mars-ruled person but the the restless mars > > energy has been diverted inward!...anger surfaces when he's drunk! > > his girlfriend complained that he used to beat her up when drunk! i > > have seen him violent a couple of times and have been shocked > because > > otherwise he's quite a soft spoken, amiable fellow! exalted mars > > retrograde can be quite deceptive! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "khallopapa" > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > From my observation...I feel Mars strong in any chart(not only > > > ascendent) gives a lot of enterprise and drive to the native. I > am > > > still a learner though:-) > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > , "Rajeev Tadepalli" > > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > > > > Dear Souvik, > > > > > > > > Your observation is right. Mars in the ascendant > > > > give the native a lot of enterprise and drive. > > > > I am a Taurus ascendant with Mars in it. I > > > > confirm your observation out of my experience. > > > > > > > > You see, in Triveni Sangamam, River Saraswati is, > > > > Antarvahini, that is it flows through underground and seen by > > > people. > > > > The other two rivers flow on the surface of earth to > > > > be seen and polluted by people. > > > > > > > > So this energy, drive, enterprise etc flow > > > > subversively and are not apparent. > > > > > > > > Whether this Martian energy is exhibited externally > > > > or not is highly dependent of the Ascendent Sign. > > > > > > > > Some Ascendants like Leo, Saggitarius etc. It can be > > > > observed externally in behaviour. > > > > > > > > There is a tendency for these natives to be adamant. > > > > Apparantly they seem to be agreeing but eventually > > > > be taking their own course unless convinced of the over view > > point. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > , "Manas Kumar" > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > > > > I distinguish between assertive and agressive (subject of the > > > > post) > > > > > and dynamic/energetic/motivated. > > > > > > > > > > , srik rami > > > <srikrami> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it does, either when placed with ascendent lord or > in > > > > > ascendent. They will be dynamic and highly motivated with > inner > > > > > martian force. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manas Kumar <manaskumar@h...> wrote: Put a soldier in the > > > > > warfield, he will fight, put him to pasture, he > > > > > > will wither away. Mars gets exalted in capricorn but > > > debilitated > > > > > in > > > > > > cancer! > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars may not always be associated with aggression, just > like > > > > other > > > > > > stereotypes are not 100% accurate. Astrology has its own > set > > > of > > > > > > stereotypical ankle chains ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "OM" > > > > > <explore_vulcan> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Manas, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an excellent point brought out by you. A month > > back, > > > I > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > a document (wars of the world), where I pointed out that > > > most > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > disasters took place in history when there was Mars > Opposed > > > by > > > > > > some > > > > > > > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive nature of humans > > > > cannot > > > > > > be > > > > > > > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna Lord alone. > > > > There > > > > > > has > > > > > > > to be a some opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom Cruise, MIssion > > > > > > ImpossibleII > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do let me know ur views, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manas Kumar" > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but in 7th > house > > > > with > > > > > > > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders took place > in > > > > > rahu's > > > > > > > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where venus, mercury > > > and > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right across > from > > > the > > > > > > third > > > > > > > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with ketu. Chandal- > > > > > > gajkeshari. > > > > > > > > It is interesting that mercury plays a significant role > > as > > > > > does > > > > > > > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were carried out by > > > other > > > > > > > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by him. Much > to > > > > > explore > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma Gandhi's > > chart, > > > > as > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "ssz_dreams" > > > > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi ebody, > > > > > > > > > I got some doubts while observing neighbours chield > > > > > horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one > > agressive/fighter,as > > > i > > > > > > > observed > > > > > > > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting behaviour > > > > > > > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house) > > > > > > > > > does this chield need any remedies to become a calm > boy > > > > > > > > > in this horoscope > > > > > > > > > 1.five planets combusted > > > > > > > > > 2. five planets in 12th house > > > > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in 12th house > as > > > > they > > > > > > form > > > > > > > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth data: > > > > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000 > > > > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST) > > > > > > > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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