Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Dear Raman, Yes, u r correct...fighting spirit is good but it can be deadly as well. Two circumstances: 1. friend1 plays a prank on another friend2. If f2 has mars+ketu conjunction he will be proactive and "over-prepared" for such a prank. He may over react and thus take things too "seriously"!! 2. If with such a combi (mars + ketu), he also has good rationality and other "cooler" aspects, he will wait till things donot go out of hand and stay cool and learn to watch and wait...and then react.. IT is just the difference of approach... Dear, I myself have Mars 8th aspect on my Lagna Ketu and I feel I am quite rational!!! :) Do u have the same?? Regards, Souvik , "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> wrote: > But Souvik Ji you are calling it deadly. > Fighting Spirit is good any way. > > Please give more on that. > > regards! > > Raaman > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > Sun 4/18/2004 9:49 PM > > Cc: > To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik > > > Hi Raman, > > 7th.house Mars+Ketu in Libra means, Mars more powerful and in direct > opposition to Rahu. Thus an inborn "fighting spirit" predominates the > native > > Regards, > Souvik > > , "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> > wrote: > > Ketu and Mars. > > > > He has in 7 house and He is Aries. > > > > > > Regards! > > > > Raman > > > > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > > Thu 4/15/2004 11:56 PM > > > > Cc: > > To Parvatishankar:Mars+Ketu:From Souvik > > > > > > Hi Parvatishankar, > > > > Mars+Ketu conjunction is DEADLY. > > > > Yes, if Mars dominates then Ketu addes the analytical power > to the > > activity and the person becomes almost invinsible. > > > > However, if Ketu dominates, the whole energy is devoted to > > the "analysis" of the Ultimate and the Truth. > > > > In both cases, the aspect or conjunction of Mars+Ketu is > noteworthy. > > > > I have seen such cases too in my life. > > > > Regards, > > > > Souvik > > > > --- In , "parvatishankar" > > <parvatishankar> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have friend with Mars and Ketu in taurus ascendant...i > have heard > > > that ketu behaves like mars, this perhaps acts like a > double mars > > in > > > ascendant... > > > > > > i have never met a person oozing so much of martian male > > > energy...he's downright aggressive, dominating and > adamant...no one > > > can change his mind on anything that it's set > upon...whatever the > > > trouble he faces it, rather dares it! ...and i have > observed that > > > with some strange inner drive and determination he > continues to > > work > > > for it! > > > > > > ....there's another friend with an exalted mars in lagna > but a > > > retrograde exalted mars...the difference is quite > astounding...he > > > looks slightly like a mars-ruled person but the the > restless mars > > > energy has been diverted inward!...anger surfaces when he's > drunk! > > > his girlfriend complained that he used to beat her up when > drunk! i > > > have seen him violent a couple of times and have been > shocked > > because > > > otherwise he's quite a soft spoken, amiable fellow! exalted > mars > > > retrograde can be quite deceptive! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "khallopapa" > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > From my observation...I feel Mars strong in any chart(not > only > > > > ascendent) gives a lot of enterprise and drive to the > native. I > > am > > > > still a learner though:-) > > > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > , "Rajeev > Tadepalli" > > > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Souvik, > > > > > > > > > > Your observation is right. Mars in the > ascendant > > > > > give the native a lot of enterprise and drive. > > > > > I am a Taurus ascendant with Mars in > it. I > > > > > confirm your observation out of my experience. > > > > > > > > > > You see, in Triveni Sangamam, River > Saraswati is, > > > > > Antarvahini, that is it flows through underground and > seen by > > > > people. > > > > > The other two rivers flow on the surface of > earth to > > > > > be seen and polluted by people. > > > > > > > > > > So this energy, drive, enterprise etc flow > > > > > subversively and are not apparent. > > > > > > > > > > Whether this Martian energy is exhibited > externally > > > > > or not is highly dependent of the Ascendent Sign. > > > > > > > > > > Some Ascendants like Leo, Saggitarius etc. > It can be > > > > > observed externally in behaviour. > > > > > > > > > > There is a tendency for these natives to be > adamant. > > > > > Apparantly they seem to be agreeing but > eventually > > > > > be taking their own course unless convinced of the over > view > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > , "Manas Kumar" > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > > > > > I distinguish between assertive and agressive > (subject of the > > > > > post) > > > > > > and dynamic/energetic/motivated. > > > > > > > > > > > > , srik rami > > > > <srikrami> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it does, either when placed with ascendent > lord or > > in > > > > > > ascendent. They will be dynamic and highly motivated > with > > inner > > > > > > martian force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manas Kumar <manaskumar@h...> wrote: Put a soldier > in the > > > > > > warfield, he will fight, put him to pasture, he > > > > > > > will wither away. Mars gets exalted in capricorn > but > > > > debilitated > > > > > > in > > > > > > > cancer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars may not always be associated with aggression, > just > > like > > > > > other > > > > > > > stereotypes are not 100% accurate. Astrology has > its own > > set > > > > of > > > > > > > stereotypical ankle chains ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "OM" > > > > > > <explore_vulcan> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Manas, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an excellent point brought out by you. A > month > > > back, > > > > I > > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > a document (wars of the world), where I pointed > out that > > > > most > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > disasters took place in history when there was > Mars > > Opposed > > > > by > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive nature > of humans > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna > Lord alone. > > > > > There > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > to be a some opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom Cruise, > MIssion > > > > > > > ImpossibleII > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do let me know ur views, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "Manas > Kumar" > > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but in > 7th > > house > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders > took place > > in > > > > > > rahu's > > > > > > > > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where venus, > mercury > > > > and > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right > across > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > third > > > > > > > > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with ketu. > Chandal- > > > > > > > gajkeshari. > > > > > > > > > It is interesting that mercury plays a > significant role > > > as > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were carried > out by > > > > other > > > > > > > > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by > him. Much > > to > > > > > > explore > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma > Gandhi's > > > chart, > > > > > as > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , "ssz_dreams" > > > > > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi ebody, > > > > > > > > > > I got some doubts while observing > neighbours chield > > > > > > horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one > > > agressive/fighter,as > > > > i > > > > > > > > observed > > > > > > > > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting behaviour > > > > > > > > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house) > > > > > > > > > > does this chield need any remedies to become > a calm > > boy > > > > > > > > > > in this horoscope > > > > > > > > > > 1.five planets combusted > > > > > > > > > > 2. five planets in 12th house > > > > > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in 12th > house > > as > > > > > they > > > > > > > form > > > > > > > > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth data: > > > > > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000 > > > > > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST) > > > > > > > > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 It is not me, my wife has it. She also some health problem. I think she has it because Mars and Ketu conjuction in Libra. Now any thought on it. regards! Raman. OM [explore_vulcan] Sun 4/18/2004 10:18 PM Cc: To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik Dear Raman, Yes, u r correct...fighting spirit is good but it can be deadly as well. Two circumstances: 1. friend1 plays a prank on another friend2. If f2 has mars+ketu conjunction he will be proactive and "over-prepared" for such a prank. He may over react and thus take things too "seriously"!! 2. If with such a combi (mars + ketu), he also has good rationality and other "cooler" aspects, he will wait till things donot go out of hand and stay cool and learn to watch and wait...and then react.. IT is just the difference of approach... Dear, I myself have Mars 8th aspect on my Lagna Ketu and I feel I am quite rational!!! :) Do u have the same?? Regards, Souvik , "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> wrote: > But Souvik Ji you are calling it deadly. > Fighting Spirit is good any way. > > Please give more on that. > > regards! > > Raaman > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > Sun 4/18/2004 9:49 PM > > Cc: > To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik > > > Hi Raman, > > 7th.house Mars+Ketu in Libra means, Mars more powerful and in direct > opposition to Rahu. Thus an inborn "fighting spirit" predominates the > native > > Regards, > Souvik > > , "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> > wrote: > > Ketu and Mars. > > > > He has in 7 house and He is Aries. > > > > > > Regards! > > > > Raman > > > > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > > Thu 4/15/2004 11:56 PM > > > > Cc: > > To Parvatishankar:Mars+Ketu:From Souvik > > > > > > Hi Parvatishankar, > > > > Mars+Ketu conjunction is DEADLY. > > > > Yes, if Mars dominates then Ketu addes the analytical power > to the > > activity and the person becomes almost invinsible. > > > > However, if Ketu dominates, the whole energy is devoted to > > the "analysis" of the Ultimate and the Truth. > > > > In both cases, the aspect or conjunction of Mars+Ketu is > noteworthy. > > > > I have seen such cases too in my life. > > > > Regards, > > > > Souvik > > > > --- In , "parvatishankar" > > <parvatishankar> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have friend with Mars and Ketu in taurus ascendant...i > have heard > > > that ketu behaves like mars, this perhaps acts like a > double mars > > in > > > ascendant... > > > > > > i have never met a person oozing so much of martian male > > > energy...he's downright aggressive, dominating and > adamant...no one > > > can change his mind on anything that it's set > upon...whatever the > > > trouble he faces it, rather dares it! ...and i have > observed that > > > with some strange inner drive and determination he > continues to > > work > > > for it! > > > > > > ....there's another friend with an exalted mars in lagna > but a > > > retrograde exalted mars...the difference is quite > astounding...he > > > looks slightly like a mars-ruled person but the the > restless mars > > > energy has been diverted inward!...anger surfaces when he's > drunk! > > > his girlfriend complained that he used to beat her up when > drunk! i > > > have seen him violent a couple of times and have been > shocked > > because > > > otherwise he's quite a soft spoken, amiable fellow! exalted > mars > > > retrograde can be quite deceptive! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "khallopapa" > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > From my observation...I feel Mars strong in any chart(not > only > > > > ascendent) gives a lot of enterprise and drive to the > native. I > > am > > > > still a learner though:-) > > > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > , "Rajeev > Tadepalli" > > > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Souvik, > > > > > > > > > > Your observation is right. Mars in the > ascendant > > > > > give the native a lot of enterprise and drive. > > > > > I am a Taurus ascendant with Mars in > it. I > > > > > confirm your observation out of my experience. > > > > > > > > > > You see, in Triveni Sangamam, River > Saraswati is, > > > > > Antarvahini, that is it flows through underground and > seen by > > > > people. > > > > > The other two rivers flow on the surface of > earth to > > > > > be seen and polluted by people. > > > > > > > > > > So this energy, drive, enterprise etc flow > > > > > subversively and are not apparent. > > > > > > > > > > Whether this Martian energy is exhibited > externally > > > > > or not is highly dependent of the Ascendent Sign. > > > > > > > > > > Some Ascendants like Leo, Saggitarius etc. > It can be > > > > > observed externally in behaviour. > > > > > > > > > > There is a tendency for these natives to be > adamant. > > > > > Apparantly they seem to be agreeing but > eventually > > > > > be taking their own course unless convinced of the over > view > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > , "Manas Kumar" > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > > > > > I distinguish between assertive and agressive > (subject of the > > > > > post) > > > > > > and dynamic/energetic/motivated. > > > > > > > > > > > > , srik rami > > > > <srikrami> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it does, either when placed with ascendent > lord or > > in > > > > > > ascendent. They will be dynamic and highly motivated > with > > inner > > > > > > martian force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manas Kumar <manaskumar@h...> wrote: Put a soldier > in the > > > > > > warfield, he will fight, put him to pasture, he > > > > > > > will wither away. Mars gets exalted in capricorn > but > > > > debilitated > > > > > > in > > > > > > > cancer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars may not always be associated with aggression, > just > > like > > > > > other > > > > > > > stereotypes are not 100% accurate. Astrology has > its own > > set > > > > of > > > > > > > stereotypical ankle chains ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "OM" > > > > > > <explore_vulcan> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Manas, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an excellent point brought out by you. A > month > > > back, > > > > I > > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > a document (wars of the world), where I pointed > out that > > > > most > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > disasters took place in history when there was > Mars > > Opposed > > > > by > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > force most commonly Rahu and Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do strongly belief that the aggressive nature > of humans > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > attributed to Mars in Ascendant or with Lagna > Lord alone. > > > > > There > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > to be a some opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A hero is useless without a villian"-Tom Cruise, > MIssion > > > > > > > ImpossibleII > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do let me know ur views, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "Manas > Kumar" > > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hitler did not have mars in first house but in > 7th > > house > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > lagnesh. Most of his cruel deeds and orders > took place > > in > > > > > > rahu's > > > > > > > > > dasha coinciding with aries chara (where venus, > mercury > > > > and > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > are). Rahu is in 9th house in mithuna, right > across > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > third > > > > > > > > > that holds the moon, jupiter -- but with ketu. > Chandal- > > > > > > > gajkeshari. > > > > > > > > > It is interesting that mercury plays a > significant role > > > as > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > rahu. Most of Hitler's atrocities were carried > out by > > > > other > > > > > > > > > messengers of evil, rather than directly by > him. Much > > to > > > > > > explore > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > that chart. Interestingly, compare Mahatma > Gandhi's > > > chart, > > > > > as > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , "ssz_dreams" > > > > > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi ebody, > > > > > > > > > > I got some doubts while observing > neighbours chield > > > > > > horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Does mars in ascendent makes one > > > agressive/fighter,as > > > > i > > > > > > > > observed > > > > > > > > > > this chield has aggressive/fighting behaviour > > > > > > > > > > (HITLER HAS mars in asc in mars house) > > > > > > > > > > does this chield need any remedies to become > a calm > > boy > > > > > > > > > > in this horoscope > > > > > > > > > > 1.five planets combusted > > > > > > > > > > 2. five planets in 12th house > > > > > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu in an axis(kala sarpa dosha)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four combusted planets along with sun in 12th > house > > as > > > > > they > > > > > > > form > > > > > > > > > > vipareeta raj yoga(is it good/bad?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth data: > > > > > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-2000 > > > > > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25 a.m (IST) > > > > > > > > > > p.ob: 78E3O , 17N20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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