To Raman and Moderators :Souvik: From Souvik

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, "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...>

wrote:

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>

> Regards

>

> rc

>

>

> OM [explore_vulcan]

> Sun 4/18/2004 10:57 PM

>

> Cc:

> To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik

>

>

>

> Hi Raman,

>

> I didnot receive any attachment. Did u miss to attch it?

>

> Regards,

>

> Souvik

>

> , "Calla, Raman"

<rcalla@s...>

> wrote:

> > Here you go Souvik.

> >

> > regards!

> >

> > Raman

> >

> >

> > OM [explore_vulcan]

> > Sun 4/18/2004 10:39 PM

> >

> > Cc:

> > To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik

> >

> >

> > Raman...give me her details (I donot have Jhl5 with

me right

> now so

> > please give me the txt file or the details in

text)...Her

> horoscope I

> > mean..may be the 8th. or 12th. house problem...

> >

> > Also send ur deatils..Do u also have Mars in kendra??

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Souvik

> > , "Calla,

Raman"

> <rcalla@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > It is not me, my wife has it.

> > > She also some health problem. I think she has it

because

> Mars and

> > Ketu conjuction in Libra.

> > >

> > > Now any thought on it.

> > >

> > > regards!

> > >

> > > Raman.

> > >

> > >

> > > OM [explore_vulcan]

> > > Sun 4/18/2004 10:18 PM

> > >

> > > Cc:

> > > To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Raman,

> > >

> > > Yes, u r correct...fighting spirit is good

but it can

> be

> > deadly as

> > > well.

> > >

> > > Two circumstances:

> > >

> > > 1. friend1 plays a prank on another friend2.

If f2

> has

> > mars+ketu

> > > conjunction he will be proactive and "over-

prepared"

> for such

> > a

> > > prank. He may over react and thus take things

> > too "seriously"!!

> > >

> > > 2. If with such a combi (mars + ketu), he

also has

> good

> > rationality

> > > and other "cooler" aspects, he will wait till

things

> donot go

> > out of

> > > hand and stay cool and learn to watch and

wait...and

> then

> > react..

> > >

> > > IT is just the difference of approach...

> > >

> > > Dear, I myself have Mars 8th aspect on my

Lagna Ketu

> and I

> > feel I am

> > > quite rational!!! :)

> > >

> > > Do u have the same??

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Souvik

> > >

> > > --- In

, "Calla,

> Raman"

> > <rcalla@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > But Souvik Ji you are calling it deadly.

> > > > Fighting Spirit is good any way.

> > > >

> > > > Please give more on that.

> > > >

> > > > regards!

> > > >

> > > > Raaman

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > OM [explore_vulcan]

> > > > Sun 4/18/2004 9:49 PM

> > > >

> > > > Cc:

> > > > To Raman:Re: Souvik:

>From Souvik

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Raman,

> > > >

> > > > 7th.house Mars+Ketu in Libra means,

Mars more

> > powerful and in

> > > direct

> > > > opposition to Rahu. Thus an

inborn "fighting

> spirit"

> > > predominates the

> > > > native

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Souvik

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> , "Calla,

> > Raman"

> > > <rcalla@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Ketu and Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > He has in 7 house and He is Aries.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards!

> > > > >

> > > > > Raman

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > OM

[explore_vulcan]

> > > > > Thu 4/15/2004 11:56 PM

> > > > > To:

 

> > > > > Cc:

> > > > > To

> > Parvatishankar:Mars+Ketu:From Souvik

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Parvatishankar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars+Ketu conjunction is

DEADLY.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, if Mars dominates then

Ketu

> addes the

> > analytical

> > > power

> > > > to the

> > > > > activity and the person

becomes

> almost

> > invinsible.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, if Ketu dominates,

the whole

> energy

> > is

> > > devoted to

> > > > > the "analysis" of the

Ultimate and

> the Truth.

> > > > >

> > > > > In both cases, the aspect or

> conjunction of

> > Mars+Ketu

> > > is

> > > > noteworthy.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have seen such cases too in

my life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Souvik

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > >

, "parvatishankar"

> > > > > <parvatishankar> wrote:

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have friend with Mars and

Ketu in

> taurus

> > > ascendant...i

> > > > have heard

> > > > > > that ketu behaves like

mars, this

> perhaps

> > acts like

> > > a

> > > > double mars

> > > > > in

> > > > > > ascendant...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i have never met a person

oozing so

> much of

> > martian

> > > male

> > > > > > energy...he's downright

aggressive,

> > dominating and

> > > > adamant...no one

> > > > > > can change his mind on

anything

> that it's

> > set

> > > > upon...whatever the

> > > > > > trouble he faces it, rather

dares

> > it! ...and i have

> > > > observed that

> > > > > > with some strange inner

drive and

> > determination he

> > > > continues to

> > > > > work

> > > > > > for it!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....there's another friend

with an

> exalted

> > mars in

> > > lagna

> > > > but a

> > > > > > retrograde exalted

mars...the

> difference is

> > quite

> > > > astounding...he

> > > > > > looks slightly like a mars-

ruled

> person but

> > the the

> > > > restless mars

> > > > > > energy has been diverted

> inward!...anger

> > surfaces

> > > when he's

> > > > drunk!

> > > > > > his girlfriend complained

that he

> used to

> > beat her

> > > up when

> > > > drunk! i

> > > > > > have seen him violent a

couple of

> times and

> > have

> > > been

> > > > shocked

> > > > > because

> > > > > > otherwise he's quite a soft

spoken,

> amiable

> > fellow!

> > > exalted

> > > > mars

> > > > > > retrograde can be quite

deceptive!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > >

, "khallopapa"

> > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > From my observation...I

feel Mars

> strong

> > in any

> > > chart(not

> > > > only

> > > > > > > ascendent) gives a lot of

> enterprise and

> > drive to

> > > the

> > > > native. I

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > still a learner though:-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manoshi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , "Rajeev

> > > > Tadepalli"

> > > > > > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Souvik,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your

observation is

> right.

> > Mars in

> > > the

> > > > ascendant

> > > > > > > > give the native a lot

of

> enterprise and

> > drive.

> > > > > > > > I am a

Taurus

> ascendant

> > with Mars

> > > in

> > > > it. I

> > > > > > > > confirm your

observation out of

> my

> > experience.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You see, in

Triveni

> > Sangamam, River

> > > > Saraswati is,

> > > > > > > > Antarvahini, that is it

flows

> through

> > > underground and

> > > > seen by

> > > > > > > people.

> > > > > > > > The other

two

> rivers flow

> > on the

> > > surface of

> > > > earth to

> > > > > > > > be seen and polluted by

people.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So this

energy,

> drive,

> > enterprise

> > > etc flow

> > > > > > > > subversively and are

not

> apparent.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Whether

this

> Martian energy

> > is

> > > exhibited

> > > > externally

> > > > > > > > or not is highly

dependent of

> the

> > Ascendent

> > > Sign.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Some

Ascendants

> like Leo,

> > > Saggitarius etc.

> > > > It can be

> > > > > > > > observed externally in

> behaviour.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is a

tendency

> for

> > these

> > > natives to be

> > > > adamant.

> > > > > > > > Apparantly

they

> seem to be

> > agreeing

> > > but

> > > > eventually

> > > > > > > > be taking their own

course

> unless

> > convinced of

> > > the over

> > > > view

> > > > > > point.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > , "Manas

> > > Kumar"

> > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > I distinguish between

> assertive and

> > agressive

> > > > (subject of the

> > > > > > > > post)

> > > > > > > > > and

> dynamic/energetic/motivated.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > , srik

> > > rami

> > > > > > > <srikrami>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I think it does,

either

> when placed

> > with

> > > ascendent

> > > > lord or

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > ascendent. They will

be

> dynamic and

> > highly

> > > motivated

> > > > with

> > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > martian force.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Manas Kumar

> <manaskumar@h...>

> > wrote: Put a

> > > soldier

> > > > in the

> > > > > > > > > warfield, he will

fight, put

> him to

> > pasture,

> > > he

> > > > > > > > > > will wither away.

Mars gets

> exalted

> > in

> > > capricorn

> > > > but

> > > > > > > debilitated

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > cancer!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mars may not always

be

> associated

> > with

> > > aggression,

> > > > just

> > > > > like

> > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > stereotypes are not

100%

> accurate.

> > > Astrology has

> > > > its own

> > > > > set

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > stereotypical ankle

> chains ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , "OM"

> > > > > > > > > <explore_vulcan>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Manas,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This is an

excellent

> point

> > brought out by

> > > you. A

> > > > month

> > > > > > back,

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > wrote

> > > > > > > > > > > a document (wars

of the

> world),

> > where I

> > > pointed

> > > > out that

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > disasters took

place in

> history

> > when

> > > there was

> > > > Mars

> > > > > Opposed

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > force most

commonly Rahu

> and

> > Saturn.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I do strongly

belief that

> the

> > aggressive

> > > nature

> > > > of humans

> > > > > > > > cannot

> > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > attributed to

Mars in

> Ascendant

> > or with

> > > Lagna

> > > > Lord alone.

> > > > > > > > There

> > > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > to be a some

opposition.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > "A hero is

useless

> without a

> > villian"-Tom

> > > Cruise,

> > > > MIssion

> > > > > > > > > > ImpossibleII

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do let me know ur

views,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Souvik

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , "Manas

> > > > Kumar"

> > > > > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hitler did not

have

> mars in

> > first house

> > > but in

> > > > 7th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh. Most

of his

> cruel

> > deeds and

> > > orders

> > > > took place

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > rahu's

> > > > > > > > > > > > dasha

coinciding with

> aries

> > chara

> > > (where venus,

> > > > mercury

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > > > > are). Rahu is

in 9th

> house in

> > mithuna,

> > > right

> > > > across

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > third

> > > > > > > > > > > > that holds the

moon,

> jupiter --

> > but

> > > with ketu.

> > > > Chandal-

> > > > > > > > > > gajkeshari.

> > > > > > > > > > > > It is

interesting that

> mercury

> > plays a

> > > > significant role

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > > rahu. Most of

Hitler's

> > atrocities were

> > > carried

> > > > out by

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > > messengers of

evil,

> rather than

> > > directly by

> > > > him. Much

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > explore

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > that chart.

> Interestingly,

> > compare

> > > Mahatma

> > > > Gandhi's

> > > > > > chart,

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > well.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > >

> , "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > > > > > > > >

<ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi ebody,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I got some

doubts

> while

> > observing

> > > > neighbours chield

> > > > > > > > > horoscope

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Does mars

in

> ascendent

> > makes one

> > > > > > agressive/fighter,as

> > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > > > observed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this chield

has

> > aggressive/fighting

> > > behaviour

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (HITLER HAS

mars in

> asc in

> > mars house)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > does this

chield need

> any

> > remedies to

> > > become

> > > > a calm

> > > > > boy

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in this

horoscope

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.five

planets

> combusted

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. five

planets in

> 12th house

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu

in an axis

> (kala

> > sarpa

> > > dosha)?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > four

combusted

> planets along

> > with sun

> > > in 12th

> > > > house

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > form

> > > > > > > > > > > > > vipareeta raj

yoga(is

> it

> > good/bad?)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > birth data:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-

> 2000

> > > > > > > > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25

a.m

> > (IST)

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OM [explore_vulcan]

Sun 4/18/2004 11:08 PM

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To Raman and Moderators :Re: Souvik: From Souvik

 

 

Hi Raman, Neeraj and Tanvir,

 

Please note that I cannot view any attachment sent by a member, Raman.

 

Is this a temporary problem or a permanent one. Am I following a

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Regards

 

Souvik

 

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> If not please let me know.

>

> Regards

>

> rc

>

>

> OM [explore_vulcan]

> Sun 4/18/2004 10:57 PM

>

> Cc:

> To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik

>

>

>

> Hi Raman,

>

> I didnot receive any attachment. Did u miss to attch it?

>

> Regards,

>

> Souvik

>

> , "Calla, Raman"

<rcalla@s...>

> wrote:

> > Here you go Souvik.

> >

> > regards!

> >

> > Raman

> >

> >

> > OM [explore_vulcan]

> > Sun 4/18/2004 10:39 PM

> >

> > Cc:

> > To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik

> >

> >

> > Raman...give me her details (I donot have Jhl5 with

me right

> now so

> > please give me the txt file or the details in

text)...Her

> horoscope I

> > mean..may be the 8th. or 12th. house problem...

> >

> > Also send ur deatils..Do u also have Mars in kendra??

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Souvik

> > , "Calla,

Raman"

> <rcalla@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > It is not me, my wife has it.

> > > She also some health problem. I think she has it

because

> Mars and

> > Ketu conjuction in Libra.

> > >

> > > Now any thought on it.

> > >

> > > regards!

> > >

> > > Raman.

> > >

> > >

> > > OM [explore_vulcan]

> > > Sun 4/18/2004 10:18 PM

> > >

> > > Cc:

> > > To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Raman,

> > >

> > > Yes, u r correct...fighting spirit is good

but it can

> be

> > deadly as

> > > well.

> > >

> > > Two circumstances:

> > >

> > > 1. friend1 plays a prank on another friend2.

If f2

> has

> > mars+ketu

> > > conjunction he will be proactive and "over-

prepared"

> for such

> > a

> > > prank. He may over react and thus take things

> > too "seriously"!!

> > >

> > > 2. If with such a combi (mars + ketu), he

also has

> good

> > rationality

> > > and other "cooler" aspects, he will wait till

things

> donot go

> > out of

> > > hand and stay cool and learn to watch and

wait...and

> then

> > react..

> > >

> > > IT is just the difference of approach...

> > >

> > > Dear, I myself have Mars 8th aspect on my

Lagna Ketu

> and I

> > feel I am

> > > quite rational!!! :)

> > >

> > > Do u have the same??

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Souvik

> > >

> > > --- In

, "Calla,

> Raman"

> > <rcalla@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > But Souvik Ji you are calling it deadly.

> > > > Fighting Spirit is good any way.

> > > >

> > > > Please give more on that.

> > > >

> > > > regards!

> > > >

> > > > Raaman

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > OM [explore_vulcan]

> > > > Sun 4/18/2004 9:49 PM

> > > >

> > > > Cc:

> > > > To Raman:Re: Souvik:

From Souvik

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Raman,

> > > >

> > > > 7th.house Mars+Ketu in Libra means,

Mars more

> > powerful and in

> > > direct

> > > > opposition to Rahu. Thus an

inborn "fighting

> spirit"

> > > predominates the

> > > > native

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Souvik

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> , "Calla,

> > Raman"

> > > <rcalla@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Ketu and Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > He has in 7 house and He is Aries.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards!

> > > > >

> > > > > Raman

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > OM

[explore_vulcan]

> > > > > Thu 4/15/2004 11:56 PM

> > > > > To:

> > > > > Cc:

> > > > > To

> > Parvatishankar:Mars+Ketu:From Souvik

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Parvatishankar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars+Ketu conjunction is

DEADLY.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, if Mars dominates then

Ketu

> addes the

> > analytical

> > > power

> > > > to the

> > > > > activity and the person

becomes

> almost

> > invinsible.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, if Ketu dominates,

the whole

> energy

> > is

> > > devoted to

> > > > > the "analysis" of the

Ultimate and

> the Truth.

> > > > >

> > > > > In both cases, the aspect or

> conjunction of

> > Mars+Ketu

> > > is

> > > > noteworthy.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have seen such cases too in

my life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Souvik

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > >

, "parvatishankar"

> > > > > <parvatishankar> wrote:

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have friend with Mars and

Ketu in

> taurus

> > > ascendant...i

> > > > have heard

> > > > > > that ketu behaves like

mars, this

> perhaps

> > acts like

> > > a

> > > > double mars

> > > > > in

> > > > > > ascendant...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i have never met a person

oozing so

> much of

> > martian

> > > male

> > > > > > energy...he's downright

aggressive,

> > dominating and

> > > > adamant...no one

> > > > > > can change his mind on

anything

> that it's

> > set

> > > > upon...whatever the

> > > > > > trouble he faces it, rather

dares

> > it! ...and i have

> > > > observed that

> > > > > > with some strange inner

drive and

> > determination he

> > > > continues to

> > > > > work

> > > > > > for it!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....there's another friend

with an

> exalted

> > mars in

> > > lagna

> > > > but a

> > > > > > retrograde exalted

mars...the

> difference is

> > quite

> > > > astounding...he

> > > > > > looks slightly like a mars-

ruled

> person but

> > the the

> > > > restless mars

> > > > > > energy has been diverted

> inward!...anger

> > surfaces

> > > when he's

> > > > drunk!

> > > > > > his girlfriend complained

that he

> used to

> > beat her

> > > up when

> > > > drunk! i

> > > > > > have seen him violent a

couple of

> times and

> > have

> > > been

> > > > shocked

> > > > > because

> > > > > > otherwise he's quite a soft

spoken,

> amiable

> > fellow!

> > > exalted

> > > > mars

> > > > > > retrograde can be quite

deceptive!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > >

, "khallopapa"

> > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > From my observation...I

feel Mars

> strong

> > in any

> > > chart(not

> > > > only

> > > > > > > ascendent) gives a lot of

> enterprise and

> > drive to

> > > the

> > > > native. I

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > still a learner though:-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manoshi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , "Rajeev

> > > > Tadepalli"

> > > > > > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Souvik,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your

observation is

> right.

> > Mars in

> > > the

> > > > ascendant

> > > > > > > > give the native a lot

of

> enterprise and

> > drive.

> > > > > > > > I am a

Taurus

> ascendant

> > with Mars

> > > in

> > > > it. I

> > > > > > > > confirm your

observation out of

> my

> > experience.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You see, in

Triveni

> > Sangamam, River

> > > > Saraswati is,

> > > > > > > > Antarvahini, that is it

flows

> through

> > > underground and

> > > > seen by

> > > > > > > people.

> > > > > > > > The other

two

> rivers flow

> > on the

> > > surface of

> > > > earth to

> > > > > > > > be seen and polluted by

people.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So this

energy,

> drive,

> > enterprise

> > > etc flow

> > > > > > > > subversively and are

not

> apparent.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Whether

this

> Martian energy

> > is

> > > exhibited

> > > > externally

> > > > > > > > or not is highly

dependent of

> the

> > Ascendent

> > > Sign.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Some

Ascendants

> like Leo,

> > > Saggitarius etc.

> > > > It can be

> > > > > > > > observed externally in

> behaviour.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is a

tendency

> for

> > these

> > > natives to be

> > > > adamant.

> > > > > > > > Apparantly

they

> seem to be

> > agreeing

> > > but

> > > > eventually

> > > > > > > > be taking their own

course

> unless

> > convinced of

> > > the over

> > > > view

> > > > > > point.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > , "Manas

> > > Kumar"

> > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > I distinguish between

> assertive and

> > agressive

> > > > (subject of the

> > > > > > > > post)

> > > > > > > > > and

> dynamic/energetic/motivated.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > , srik

> > > rami

> > > > > > > <srikrami>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I think it does,

either

> when placed

> > with

> > > ascendent

> > > > lord or

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > ascendent. They will

be

> dynamic and

> > highly

> > > motivated

> > > > with

> > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > martian force.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Manas Kumar

> <manaskumar@h...>

> > wrote: Put a

> > > soldier

> > > > in the

> > > > > > > > > warfield, he will

fight, put

> him to

> > pasture,

> > > he

> > > > > > > > > > will wither away.

Mars gets

> exalted

> > in

> > > capricorn

> > > > but

> > > > > > > debilitated

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > cancer!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mars may not always

be

> associated

> > with

> > > aggression,

> > > > just

> > > > > like

> > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > stereotypes are not

100%

> accurate.

> > > Astrology has

> > > > its own

> > > > > set

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > stereotypical ankle

> chains ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , "OM"

> > > > > > > > > <explore_vulcan>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Manas,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This is an

excellent

> point

> > brought out by

> > > you. A

> > > > month

> > > > > > back,

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > wrote

> > > > > > > > > > > a document (wars

of the

> world),

> > where I

> > > pointed

> > > > out that

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > disasters took

place in

> history

> > when

> > > there was

> > > > Mars

> > > > > Opposed

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > force most

commonly Rahu

> and

> > Saturn.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I do strongly

belief that

> the

> > aggressive

> > > nature

> > > > of humans

> > > > > > > > cannot

> > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > attributed to

Mars in

> Ascendant

> > or with

> > > Lagna

> > > > Lord alone.

> > > > > > > > There

> > > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > to be a some

opposition.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > "A hero is

useless

> without a

> > villian"-Tom

> > > Cruise,

> > > > MIssion

> > > > > > > > > > ImpossibleII

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do let me know ur

views,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Souvik

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , "Manas

> > > > Kumar"

> > > > > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hitler did not

have

> mars in

> > first house

> > > but in

> > > > 7th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh. Most

of his

> cruel

> > deeds and

> > > orders

> > > > took place

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > rahu's

> > > > > > > > > > > > dasha

coinciding with

> aries

> > chara

> > > (where venus,

> > > > mercury

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > > > > are). Rahu is

in 9th

> house in

> > mithuna,

> > > right

> > > > across

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > third

> > > > > > > > > > > > that holds the

moon,

> jupiter --

> > but

> > > with ketu.

> > > > Chandal-

> > > > > > > > > > gajkeshari.

> > > > > > > > > > > > It is

interesting that

> mercury

> > plays a

> > > > significant role

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > > rahu. Most of

Hitler's

> > atrocities were

> > > carried

> > > > out by

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > > messengers of

evil,

> rather than

> > > directly by

> > > > him. Much

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > explore

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > that chart.

> Interestingly,

> > compare

> > > Mahatma

> > > > Gandhi's

> > > > > > chart,

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > well.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > >

> , "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > > > > > > > >

<ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi ebody,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I got some

doubts

> while

> > observing

> > > > neighbours chield

> > > > > > > > > horoscope

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Does mars

in

> ascendent

> > makes one

> > > > > > agressive/fighter,as

> > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > > > observed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this chield

has

> > aggressive/fighting

> > > behaviour

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (HITLER HAS

mars in

> asc in

> > mars house)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > does this

chield need

> any

> > remedies to

> > > become

> > > > a calm

> > > > > boy

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in this

horoscope

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.five

planets

> combusted

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. five

planets in

> 12th house

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu

in an axis

> (kala

> > sarpa

> > > dosha)?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > four

combusted

> planets along

> > with sun

> > > in 12th

> > > > house

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > form

> > > > > > > > > > > > > vipareeta raj

yoga(is

> it

> > good/bad?)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > birth data:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-

> 2000

> > > > > > > > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25

a.m

> > (IST)

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