Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Dear Friends, It pains me so much when politicians , who have lost mandate, Who have lost face, Who have lost self esteem, who have lost everything Have taken up FOREIGNNESS of Smt.Sonia Gandhi. In olden days, Kings married queens from different countries. Dasharatha was married to Kaikeya Kings daughter and Koshal Kings daughter. Present day princly states marry their daughters to prince of Nepal etc and they all accepted foreign queens as Rajmata and their children Rama, Bharata etc were accepted. In fact Rama was the plank of BJP and VHP on which they fought electionswhose mother was a foreigner in Ayodhya. Very same people are not ready to accept Sonia Gandhi as PM? In such a case, Advani is a Foreigner being born in Sindh. All sindhis have Greko Roman blood in them. They are the decendents of the army of Alexander and Selucus. If He can become deputy prime minister. Then why not Mrs.Sonia Gandhi be Prime Minister? Which of the present day BJP leader has sacrificed their husband, mother in law, to terrorism ? I pity Sushma swaraj and Her husband (and Govindacharya). Nothing but stark opportunism is evident in their refusal to attend Rajya sabha.Their threat to resign is a political gimmick. They want to rise the ladder in BJP with future rewards in view. When are they going to understand that Religious fanaticism of the brand of Toghadia and Mody has been rejected by people. Any more antics by them and people will rise in revolt. I do not speak this as a congress worker. In fact I do not belong to any party.I have written this as a person who has seen India being fractured on religious grounds. Lets create a country of tolerence and unity. Rgds HT , "parvatishankar" <parvatishankar> wrote: > Like Inderji says Sonia has politics not just in family but in her > stars! For all you know the stars conspired to bring her to India and > to make her the head of an old ancient nation! > > And yes, the law is not the same in India as in the US...And as an > Indian, I am proud of the fact that Indian constitution is more > secular and democratic than any other country in the world! Even if > she was a housemaid in UK, she has every right to be the Prime > Minster of India (that's what the constitution says and so does the > voters' mandate)! > > And as for the dynastic bit, if people can inherit purva punya or > karma (it's right there in your chart, see) what's wrong in carrying > on the tradition of your family! For all you know, it's not even > purva punya...it's probably her duty - karma, she's doing it for her > children...one should respect her for the amount of effort she's put > in preserving an old party...when she stayed out of the Congress, the > party actually started disintegrating...it's only now that it's > reviving. > > ...and if the choice is between fanatics who kill in the name of > religion (read BJP past history) and the widow of an assassinated > prime-minister..???? well, if it helps, the Italian can tie a saree > better than most women of India, including me:) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Dear Harish Trivedi Ji, I fully agree with you. I also am amazed by the misinformation that the various political parties are spreading. At the time when Sonia Gandhi was Married to Rajiv Gandhi, the Indian Citizenship act did not provide for obtaining Indian Citizenship for any woman on account of marriage. And hence Sonia Gandhi could not obtain the citizenship. It was in the year 1987 when Rajiv Gandhi was the Prime Minister , he moved this bill in the Parliament to allow foreign woman married to Indian me to obtain citizenship. The moment this amendment was made wherein a foreign woman married to an Indian citizen can now opt for Indian citizenship, the first woman to do so was Sonia Gandhi. It is unfortunate that the politicians are taking advantage of the silence that Sonia is keeping to their Ravings and Rantings and are misinforming the people that she did not want Indian citizenship till her husband became PM. Those who make these kind of comments, please go back to the Indian Citizenship Act and check as to when the amendments were made and as to who was the very first person to have obtained the Indian Citizenship after the amendment in 1987 and you will find that it is Sonia Gandhi. Lastly, all those so called patriots had a great opportunity to win over the electorate and get an Indian as a leader. But when you could not do so in a democratically conducted process, why now behave hypocritically when the majority has elected her. It is not that the Congress did not propogate that she will ot be the PM. In fact, the entire allinace of Congress did mention that Sonia will be the PM if they are going to be elected to power. When this commitment has been made to the electorate and the citizens of India have chosen to vote for the party to make her the PM, why now again create problems. This only shows the contmept that one has towards the democratic process and do not want to respect the sentiments of the majority. While all over the world there are Indian origin/ Indian born people, namely in Singapore, (The PM is Indian origin) Indonesia ( The president was born in Orissa in India), Mauritius, Fiji, Trinidad, and most of Caribbean Islands, South Africa US and UK that have become presidents, PM's Parliamentarians, Senators, Ministers etc and we have been proud of it, But when our own majority has chosen her, why are we not willing to accept the majority opinion. Who are we to make judgemental statements that the majority is wrong. The more we start opposing the more sympathy is what she will get. Look at Tamilnadu. Jayalalitha went on casting personal aspersions and resorted to Character assasination of Sonia and the people ensured that every congress candidate except one, won with over 1 lakhs vote majority. So, if we beleive we are right, then let us work towards highlighting the leadership qualities of Indian born nationals and work towards the next election, without casting aspersions on poor hapless Sonia. Regards, --- chaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > It pains me so much when politicians , > who have lost mandate, > Who have lost face, > Who have lost self esteem, > who have lost everything > > Have taken up FOREIGNNESS of Smt.Sonia Gandhi. > In olden days, Kings married queens from different > countries. > Dasharatha was married to Kaikeya Kings daughter and > Koshal Kings > daughter. Present day princly states marry their > daughters to prince > of Nepal etc and they all accepted foreign queens > as Rajmata and > their children Rama, Bharata etc were accepted. > In fact Rama was the plank of BJP and VHP on which > they fought > electionswhose mother was a foreigner in Ayodhya. > > Very same people are not ready to accept Sonia > Gandhi as PM? > In such a case, Advani is a Foreigner being born in > Sindh. > All sindhis have Greko Roman blood in them. They are > the decendents > of the army of Alexander and Selucus. If He can > become deputy prime > minister. Then why not Mrs.Sonia Gandhi be Prime > Minister? > > Which of the present day BJP leader has sacrificed > their husband, > mother in law, to terrorism ? > I pity Sushma swaraj and Her husband (and > Govindacharya). Nothing > but stark opportunism is evident in their refusal to > attend Rajya > sabha.Their threat to resign is a political gimmick. > They want to rise the ladder in BJP with future > rewards in view. > > When are they going to understand that Religious > fanaticism of the > brand of Toghadia and Mody has been rejected by > people. > Any more antics by them and people will rise in > revolt. > I do not speak this as a congress worker. In fact I > do not belong to > any party.I have written this as a person who has > seen India being > fractured on religious grounds. > Lets create a country of tolerence and unity. > Rgds > HT > > > > , > "parvatishankar" > <parvatishankar> wrote: > > Like Inderji says Sonia has politics not just in > family but in her > > stars! For all you know the stars conspired to > bring her to India > and > > to make her the head of an old ancient nation! > > > > And yes, the law is not the same in India as in > the US...And as an > > Indian, I am proud of the fact that Indian > constitution is more > > secular and democratic than any other country in > the world! Even if > > she was a housemaid in UK, she has every right to > be the Prime > > Minster of India (that's what the constitution > says and so does the > > voters' mandate)! > > > > And as for the dynastic bit, if people can inherit > purva punya or > > karma (it's right there in your chart, see) what's > wrong in > carrying > > on the tradition of your family! For all you know, > it's not even > > purva punya...it's probably her duty - karma, > she's doing it for > her > > children...one should respect her for the amount > of effort she's > put > > in preserving an old party...when she stayed out > of the Congress, > the > > party actually started disintegrating...it's only > now that it's > > reviving. > > > > ...and if the choice is between fanatics who kill > in the name of > > religion (read BJP past history) and the widow of > an assassinated > > prime-minister..???? well, if it helps, the > Italian can tie a saree > > better than most women of India, including me:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SBC - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo./sbc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 I wish Sonia Gandhi well. No Indian could do otherwise because none of us wants to see India do badly. But she has begun badly by permitting her biggest supporter to spook the markets -- and that could be an omen of worse to come. Raman John Aldrich [johnaldrichinc ]Monday, May 17, 2004 11:00 AMTo: Subject: Re: sonias as house maid ........BJP/VHP/RSS learn a lesson.Dear Harish Trivedi Ji,I fully agree with you. I also am amazed by themisinformation that the various political parties arespreading. At the time when Sonia Gandhi was Marriedto Rajiv Gandhi, the Indian Citizenship act did notprovide for obtaining Indian Citizenship for any womanon account of marriage. And hence Sonia Gandhi couldnot obtain the citizenship.It was in the year 1987 when Rajiv Gandhi was thePrime Minister , he moved this bill in the Parliamentto allow foreign woman married to Indian me to obtaincitizenship. The moment this amendment was madewherein a foreign woman married to an Indian citizencan now opt for Indian citizenship, the first woman todo so was Sonia Gandhi.It is unfortunate that the politicians are takingadvantage of the silence that Sonia is keeping totheir Ravings and Rantings and are misinforming thepeople that she did not want Indian citizenship tillher husband became PM.Those who make these kind of comments, please go backto the Indian Citizenship Act and check as to when theamendments were made and as to who was the very firstperson to have obtained the Indian Citizenship afterthe amendment in 1987 and you will find that it isSonia Gandhi.Lastly, all those so called patriots had a greatopportunity to win over the electorate and get anIndian as a leader. But when you could not do so in ademocratically conducted process, why now behavehypocritically when the majority has elected her. Itis not that the Congress did not propogate that shewill ot be the PM. In fact, the entire allinace ofCongress did mention that Sonia will be the PM if theyare going to be elected to power. When this commitment has been made to the electorateand the citizens of India have chosen to vote for theparty to make her the PM, why now again createproblems. This only shows the contmept that one hastowards the democratic process and do not want torespect the sentiments of the majority.While all over the world there are Indian origin/Indian born people, namely in Singapore, (The PM isIndian origin) Indonesia ( The president was born inOrissa in India), Mauritius, Fiji, Trinidad, and mostof Caribbean Islands, South Africa US and UK that havebecome presidents, PM's Parliamentarians, Senators,Ministers etc and we have been proud of it, But whenour own majority has chosen her, why are we notwilling to accept the majority opinion. Who are we to make judgemental statements that themajority is wrong. The more we start opposing the moresympathy is what she will get. Look at Tamilnadu.Jayalalitha went on casting personal aspersions andresorted to Character assasination of Sonia and thepeople ensured that every congress candidate exceptone, won with over 1 lakhs vote majority.So, if we beleive we are right, then let us worktowards highlighting the leadership qualities ofIndian born nationals and work towards the nextelection, without casting aspersions on poor haplessSonia.Regards, --- chaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote:> > > Dear Friends,> It pains me so much when politicians , > who have lost mandate,> Who have lost face,> Who have lost self esteem,> who have lost everything > > Have taken up FOREIGNNESS of Smt.Sonia Gandhi.> In olden days, Kings married queens from different> countries.> Dasharatha was married to Kaikeya Kings daughter and> Koshal Kings > daughter. Present day princly states marry their> daughters to prince > of Nepal etc and they all accepted foreign queens> as Rajmata and > their children Rama, Bharata etc were accepted.> In fact Rama was the plank of BJP and VHP on which> they fought > electionswhose mother was a foreigner in Ayodhya.> > Very same people are not ready to accept Sonia> Gandhi as PM?> In such a case, Advani is a Foreigner being born in> Sindh.> All sindhis have Greko Roman blood in them. They are> the decendents > of the army of Alexander and Selucus. If He can> become deputy prime > minister. Then why not Mrs.Sonia Gandhi be Prime> Minister?> > Which of the present day BJP leader has sacrificed> their husband, > mother in law, to terrorism ?> I pity Sushma swaraj and Her husband (and> Govindacharya). Nothing > but stark opportunism is evident in their refusal to> attend Rajya > sabha.Their threat to resign is a political gimmick.> They want to rise the ladder in BJP with future> rewards in view.> > When are they going to understand that Religious> fanaticism of the > brand of Toghadia and Mody has been rejected by> people.> Any more antics by them and people will rise in> revolt.> I do not speak this as a congress worker. In fact I> do not belong to > any party.I have written this as a person who has> seen India being > fractured on religious grounds.> Lets create a country of tolerence and unity.> Rgds> HT> > > > ,> "parvatishankar" > <parvatishankar> wrote:> > Like Inderji says Sonia has politics not just in> family but in her > > stars! For all you know the stars conspired to> bring her to India > and > > to make her the head of an old ancient nation! > > > > And yes, the law is not the same in India as in> the US...And as an > > Indian, I am proud of the fact that Indian> constitution is more > > secular and democratic than any other country in> the world! Even if > > she was a housemaid in UK, she has every right to> be the Prime > > Minster of India (that's what the constitution> says and so does the > > voters' mandate)! > > > > And as for the dynastic bit, if people can inherit> purva punya or > > karma (it's right there in your chart, see) what's> wrong in > carrying > > on the tradition of your family! For all you know,> it's not even > > purva punya...it's probably her duty - karma,> she's doing it for > her > > children...one should respect her for the amount> of effort she's > put > > in preserving an old party...when she stayed out> of the Congress, > the > > party actually started disintegrating...it's only> now that it's > > reviving.> > > > ....and if the choice is between fanatics who kill> in the name of > > religion (read BJP past history) and the widow of> an assassinated > > prime-minister..???? well, if it helps, the> Italian can tie a saree > > better than most women of India, including me:)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SBC - Internet access at a great low price.http://promo./sbc/~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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