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OM SAIRAM

 

we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9 planets, but

does these 9 gemstones are again classified? like

 

CORAL is for mars , generally we use red coral as remedy,but

whats about WHITE CORAL?

when moon & mars are in parivarthana & debeliated then we can

recommand

white coral , as white is for moon?

 

like this are there are different types for each gemstone(9 gems)?

 

ss ramesh

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Have you read Harish Johari's book on gemstones? If not, please

acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

 

 

RR

 

, "ssz_dreams"

<ssz_dreams> wrote:

> OM SAIRAM

>

> we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9 planets, but

> does these 9 gemstones are again classified? like

>

> CORAL is for mars , generally we use red coral as remedy,but

> whats about WHITE CORAL?

> when moon & mars are in parivarthana & debeliated then we can

> recommand

> white coral , as white is for moon?

>

> like this are there are different types for each gemstone(9 gems)?

>

> ss ramesh

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As per their chemical properties and physical attributes, all gem

stones including Pearls have different varieties.

 

This being can provide a small peep into gems from a slightly

different perspective. This being is just a learner like Ekalavya

learning from DISTANCE. Many knowledgable Gurus on this group may

provide inputs about how ,when and why to wear gems.

 

But in this writer's opinion and experience, Quartz,Tourmaline and

Neelam have been found to be very powerful stones.

 

May be best to start with Ruby today

 

 

RUBY AND SAPPHIRE (Interesting facts)

 

How many of you know that both Ruby and sapphire

belong to same family?

The family is known as CORUNDUM.

Word Corundum comes from Samskrit word, KURUVINDA.

Two names of Lalita Maha Tripur sundari are

Kuruvinda Manishreni and Padmarag shiladarsha.

 

Ruby and Sapphire generally occur together.

Best Ruby is mined in Burma from Mogok mines.

Similarly best Sapphires also come from Burma.

 

Ruby and Sapphires have same chemical content.

Both are oxides of Aluminium with trace minerals

as impurities which impart either

Red or blue colour to the crystals.

 

There are four castes in Ruby.

 

PADMARAGA is oriental Ruby which is Brahmin caste.

This is ordinery Dark pink Ruby most highly prized.

 

KURUVINDA which is Rubicelle belongs to Kshatriya Varna

 

SAUGANDHIKA which is not a Ruby but Spinel also known as Spinel Ruby

belongs to Vaishya varna.

 

MANASA KHANDA or Balas Ruby is of Shudra varna. This is a dark form

of Spinel Ruby.

 

There are seven defects in Ruby .Wearing such stones must be avoided.

The seven defects and evil effects of these stones are as under.

 

1) DWICHHAYA....It means that it emits twin shades . This results

in death of a close friend and losses

 

2) VIRUPA.....It means, a bird's claw like marks in the stone.

wearing such a stone brings humiliation and insults

to the wearer.

 

3) ASOVANA....The stone looks as if, it is immersed in Milk.

wearing such astone results in general misfortune.

and a danger almost any time.

 

4) KOKILA.....The stone has a mark like drop of Honey.

This brings danger to life, health and wealth. Name

is spoilt.

 

5) JARA.......This is a discoloured stone.

Wealth will be lost if worn.

 

6) DHUMA......The stone looks smokey.

It is said that lightning will strike the wearer .

 

7) SAMVEDA....There is a rift mark in the stone.

The weare would be injured by a blow from a weapon.

 

Ratnashastra has forbidden wearing defective Rubies.

Ruby should be worn to propitiate and appease Surya Narayana..

It is said to increase Atmashakti. Health , wealth and happiness

follow if a good Ruby is worn .

Ruby should not be studded in silver. Only Gold must be used.

 

Neelam or Sapphire would be coming up tomorrow.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "ssz_dreams"

<ssz_dreams> wrote:

> OM SAIRAM

>

> we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9 planets, but

> does these 9 gemstones are again classified? like

>

> CORAL is for mars , generally we use red coral as remedy,but

> whats about WHITE CORAL?

> when moon & mars are in parivarthana & debeliated then we can

> recommand

> white coral , as white is for moon?

>

> like this are there are different types for each gemstone(9 gems)?

>

> ss ramesh

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Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem stones

working in fate??

 

--- rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

> Have you read Harish Johari's book on gemstones? If

> not, please

> acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

>

>

> RR

>

> ,

> "ssz_dreams"

> <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > OM SAIRAM

> >

> > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9

> planets, but

> > does these 9 gemstones are again classified? like

> >

> > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red coral as

> remedy,but

> > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > when moon & mars are in parivarthana & debeliated

> then we can

> > recommand

> > white coral , as white is for moon?

> >

> > like this are there are different types for each

> gemstone(9 gems)?

> >

> > ss ramesh

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Atmasnehi Sakshaat Narayana,

 

Gems are considered as mines of cosmic rays.

The space between molecular structures which are crystalline, act as

conduits of cosmic rays only of a particular wavelength.

Coloured gems absorb all the colours except the colour it allows ,

for example, Ruby would absorb all other spectrum of colours except

red and so on.

Action of stones has been a sumbject of contention but for thousands

of years, people have been recording effects on them after wearing

different stones.

And out of that record comes fixing different gems for different

planets.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem stones

> working in fate??

>

> --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > Have you read Harish Johari's book on gemstones? If

> > not, please

> > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> >

> >

> > RR

> >

> > ,

> > "ssz_dreams"

> > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > OM SAIRAM

> > >

> > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9

> > planets, but

> > > does these 9 gemstones are again classified? like

> > >

> > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red coral as

> > remedy,but

> > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana & debeliated

> > then we can

> > > recommand

> > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > >

> > > like this are there are different types for each

> > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > >

> > > ss ramesh

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello,

 

Thanks for your response,

 

But from that point of view .. what sense does it make

to have gems for rahu and ketu, something that we call

to be the ascending/descending nodes of moon?

 

Logically speaking even a red shirt will absorb all

color frequencies except the one it shows (or a red

glass)

 

this is wat is confusing me as I think of it ...

 

More specifically, when we talk of planetary

influences in terms of rays/ or gravitational pulls it

shouldnt make sense to assign gem stones to Rahu/ketu!

 

To an extent I understand that the gem prescribed for

a given planet is almost alwyas similar to the

physical description given of that planet .. but I am

not able to comprehend how it should be helpful to

wear a gem without consciously trying to avoid

tendencies that the planets bestow on us !

 

I think all this discussion has happened in the past

.... but i dont remember seeing a proper conclusion for

the same ...

 

thanks !

 

 

--- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om wrote:

>

>

> Atmasnehi Sakshaat Narayana,

>

> Gems are considered as mines of cosmic rays.

> The space between molecular structures which are

> crystalline, act as

> conduits of cosmic rays only of a particular

> wavelength.

> Coloured gems absorb all the colours except the

> colour it allows ,

> for example, Ruby would absorb all other spectrum of

> colours except

> red and so on.

> Action of stones has been a sumbject of contention

> but for thousands

> of years, people have been recording effects on them

> after wearing

> different stones.

> And out of that record comes fixing different gems

> for different

> planets.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

>

> , surya

> vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem

> stones

> > working in fate??

> >

> > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > Have you read Harish Johari's book on gemstones?

> If

> > > not, please

> > > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> > >

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > ,

> > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > OM SAIRAM

> > > >

> > > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9

> > > planets, but

> > > > does these 9 gemstones are again classified?

> like

> > > >

> > > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red coral

> as

> > > remedy,but

> > > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana &

> debeliated

> > > then we can

> > > > recommand

> > > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > > >

> > > > like this are there are different types for

> each

> > > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > > >

> > > > ss ramesh

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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In esoteric realm, rationality takes a back seat.

What I see, I believe is Rationalitic thinking.

What you see is false is what our Upanishads say.

Leave something to unknown as All cannot be known.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Thanks for your response,

>

> But from that point of view .. what sense does it make

> to have gems for rahu and ketu, something that we call

> to be the ascending/descending nodes of moon?

>

> Logically speaking even a red shirt will absorb all

> color frequencies except the one it shows (or a red

> glass)

>

> this is wat is confusing me as I think of it ...

>

> More specifically, when we talk of planetary

> influences in terms of rays/ or gravitational pulls it

> shouldnt make sense to assign gem stones to Rahu/ketu!

>

> To an extent I understand that the gem prescribed for

> a given planet is almost alwyas similar to the

> physical description given of that planet .. but I am

> not able to comprehend how it should be helpful to

> wear a gem without consciously trying to avoid

> tendencies that the planets bestow on us !

>

> I think all this discussion has happened in the past

> ... but i dont remember seeing a proper conclusion for

> the same ...

>

> thanks !

>

>

> --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Atmasnehi Sakshaat Narayana,

> >

> > Gems are considered as mines of cosmic rays.

> > The space between molecular structures which are

> > crystalline, act as

> > conduits of cosmic rays only of a particular

> > wavelength.

> > Coloured gems absorb all the colours except the

> > colour it allows ,

> > for example, Ruby would absorb all other spectrum of

> > colours except

> > red and so on.

> > Action of stones has been a sumbject of contention

> > but for thousands

> > of years, people have been recording effects on them

> > after wearing

> > different stones.

> > And out of that record comes fixing different gems

> > for different

> > planets.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , surya

> > vishnubhotla

> > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem

> > stones

> > > working in fate??

> > >

> > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > Have you read Harish Johari's book on gemstones?

> > If

> > > > not, please

> > > > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > OM SAIRAM

> > > > >

> > > > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9

> > > > planets, but

> > > > > does these 9 gemstones are again classified?

> > like

> > > > >

> > > > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red coral

> > as

> > > > remedy,but

> > > > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana &

> > debeliated

> > > > then we can

> > > > > recommand

> > > > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > > > >

> > > > > like this are there are different types for

> > each

> > > > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > > > >

> > > > > ss ramesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> >

> >

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I think rationality should be abandoned ... it dosent

make sense to have it if it's useless ...

 

I think the correct issue is to know when to use

rationality and when not to .. I think it;s sensible

to realise that rationality/intelligence is the

manifestation of the mind and not the mind itself !!

 

The issue is ... how do we know fake remedies from

genuine ones?

 

 

--- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om wrote:

>

> In esoteric realm, rationality takes a back seat.

> What I see, I believe is Rationalitic thinking.

> What you see is false is what our Upanishads say.

> Leave something to unknown as All cannot be known.

>

> Tatvam-aAsi

>

>

>

> , surya

> vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Hello,

> >

> > Thanks for your response,

> >

> > But from that point of view .. what sense does it

> make

> > to have gems for rahu and ketu, something that we

> call

> > to be the ascending/descending nodes of moon?

> >

> > Logically speaking even a red shirt will absorb

> all

> > color frequencies except the one it shows (or a

> red

> > glass)

> >

> > this is wat is confusing me as I think of it ...

> >

> > More specifically, when we talk of planetary

> > influences in terms of rays/ or gravitational

> pulls it

> > shouldnt make sense to assign gem stones to

> Rahu/ketu!

> >

> > To an extent I understand that the gem prescribed

> for

> > a given planet is almost alwyas similar to the

> > physical description given of that planet .. but I

> am

> > not able to comprehend how it should be helpful to

> > wear a gem without consciously trying to avoid

> > tendencies that the planets bestow on us !

> >

> > I think all this discussion has happened in the

> past

> > ... but i dont remember seeing a proper conclusion

> for

> > the same ...

> >

> > thanks !

> >

> >

> > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Atmasnehi Sakshaat Narayana,

> > >

> > > Gems are considered as mines of cosmic rays.

> > > The space between molecular structures which are

> > > crystalline, act as

> > > conduits of cosmic rays only of a particular

> > > wavelength.

> > > Coloured gems absorb all the colours except the

> > > colour it allows ,

> > > for example, Ruby would absorb all other

> spectrum of

> > > colours except

> > > red and so on.

> > > Action of stones has been a sumbject of

> contention

> > > but for thousands

> > > of years, people have been recording effects on

> them

> > > after wearing

> > > different stones.

> > > And out of that record comes fixing different

> gems

> > > for different

> > > planets.

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , surya

> > > vishnubhotla

> > > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > > Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem

> > > stones

> > > > working in fate??

> > > >

> > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > > Have you read Harish Johari's book on

> gemstones?

> > > If

> > > > > not, please

> > > > > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > OM SAIRAM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for

> 9

> > > > > planets, but

> > > > > > does these 9 gemstones are again

> classified?

> > > like

> > > > > >

> > > > > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red

> coral

> > > as

> > > > > remedy,but

> > > > > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > > > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana &

> > > debeliated

> > > > > then we can

> > > > > > recommand

> > > > > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > like this are there are different types

> for

> > > each

> > > > > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ss ramesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Good karma and poorvapunya of the jeweller from what many tell me!

 

RR

 

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem stones

> working in fate??

>

> --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > Have you read Harish Johari's book on gemstones? If

> > not, please

> > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> >

> >

> > RR

> >

> > ,

> > "ssz_dreams"

> > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > OM SAIRAM

> > >

> > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9

> > planets, but

> > > does these 9 gemstones are again classified? like

> > >

> > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red coral as

> > remedy,but

> > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana & debeliated

> > then we can

> > > recommand

> > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > >

> > > like this are there are different types for each

> > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > >

> > > ss ramesh

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Kindly allow me to share my 2 cents. There are several

theories / explanations regarding gemstones. The

following two are there

 

1) Gem stones are chemcial compounds made up of

various elements like calcium carbonate etc. Every

gemstone consists of different elements and they touch

our skin, when worn, so it acts like a medicine and

our body slowly absorbs them and hence gives the

effects.

 

2) The second goes through light and cosmic rays, as

sunlight consists of VIBGYOR, Infrared, UV rays, these

rays are filtered through the stone and desired sun

rays and cosmic rays touch our body after passing

through the stone, so malefic cosmic energy is blocked

and positive for us is allowed to reach in our body.

 

These are just explanations, which I have read. As

such remedial measures don't have a rational thinking

or a very scientific approach. Shri PVR ji in his book

has quoted in the chapter of Remedial Measures that we

will study remedial measures, but there is no rational

thinking for remedial measures, so those who do not

believe in remedial measures can skip that particular

chapter. I remember as these lines were written in

bold text.

 

I personally believe that yajnas, homams, prayers,

donation, mantras, gems do good for me. I have

experienced it myself, but to prove them

scienitfically or in a rational way is beyond my reach

at this stage (may be due to ingnorance or my little

knowledge)

 

Yes, everything cannot be known in this universe. Even

nature has some very complex processes, which we

cannot explain very clearly.

 

Do the remedial measures, which does good for you.

Sometimes one has to try various means of doing

remedial measures, and it is difficult to choose. But

yajnas, homams, donations are relatively safe. One can

consult any good astrologer and simultaneously apply

trial and error theory while observing results. This

is the best approach, I have found for myself till to

date. May it work for others also, but with some

experiments, I am sure, one can find best approach for

themselves. Yes it involves, time, energy, resources

as well as money.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

--- surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv

wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Thanks for your response,

>

> But from that point of view .. what sense does it

> make

> to have gems for rahu and ketu, something that we

> call

> to be the ascending/descending nodes of moon?

>

> Logically speaking even a red shirt will absorb all

> color frequencies except the one it shows (or a red

> glass)

>

> this is wat is confusing me as I think of it ...

>

> More specifically, when we talk of planetary

> influences in terms of rays/ or gravitational pulls

> it

> shouldnt make sense to assign gem stones to

> Rahu/ketu!

>

> To an extent I understand that the gem prescribed

> for

> a given planet is almost alwyas similar to the

> physical description given of that planet .. but I

> am

> not able to comprehend how it should be helpful to

> wear a gem without consciously trying to avoid

> tendencies that the planets bestow on us !

>

> I think all this discussion has happened in the past

> ... but i dont remember seeing a proper conclusion

> for

> the same ...

>

> thanks !

>

>

> --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om wrote:

> >

> >

> > Atmasnehi Sakshaat Narayana,

> >

> > Gems are considered as mines of cosmic rays.

> > The space between molecular structures which are

> > crystalline, act as

> > conduits of cosmic rays only of a particular

> > wavelength.

> > Coloured gems absorb all the colours except the

> > colour it allows ,

> > for example, Ruby would absorb all other spectrum

> of

> > colours except

> > red and so on.

> > Action of stones has been a sumbject of contention

> > but for thousands

> > of years, people have been recording effects on

> them

> > after wearing

> > different stones.

> > And out of that record comes fixing different gems

> > for different

> > planets.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , surya

> > vishnubhotla

> > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem

> > stones

> > > working in fate??

> > >

> > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > Have you read Harish Johari's book on

> gemstones?

> > If

> > > > not, please

> > > > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > OM SAIRAM

> > > > >

> > > > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9

> > > > planets, but

> > > > > does these 9 gemstones are again classified?

> > like

> > > > >

> > > > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red

> coral

> > as

> > > > remedy,but

> > > > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana &

> > debeliated

> > > > then we can

> > > > > recommand

> > > > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > > > >

> > > > > like this are there are different types for

> > each

> > > > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > > > >

> > > > > ss ramesh

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Hello Neeraj,

 

This makes sense thanks !

 

 

--- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote:

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Kindly allow me to share my 2 cents. There are

> several

> theories / explanations regarding gemstones. The

> following two are there

>

> 1) Gem stones are chemcial compounds made up of

> various elements like calcium carbonate etc. Every

> gemstone consists of different elements and they

> touch

> our skin, when worn, so it acts like a medicine and

> our body slowly absorbs them and hence gives the

> effects.

>

> 2) The second goes through light and cosmic rays, as

> sunlight consists of VIBGYOR, Infrared, UV rays,

> these

> rays are filtered through the stone and desired sun

> rays and cosmic rays touch our body after passing

> through the stone, so malefic cosmic energy is

> blocked

> and positive for us is allowed to reach in our body.

>

> These are just explanations, which I have read. As

> such remedial measures don't have a rational

> thinking

> or a very scientific approach. Shri PVR ji in his

> book

> has quoted in the chapter of Remedial Measures that

> we

> will study remedial measures, but there is no

> rational

> thinking for remedial measures, so those who do not

> believe in remedial measures can skip that

> particular

> chapter. I remember as these lines were written in

> bold text.

>

> I personally believe that yajnas, homams, prayers,

> donation, mantras, gems do good for me. I have

> experienced it myself, but to prove them

> scienitfically or in a rational way is beyond my

> reach

> at this stage (may be due to ingnorance or my little

> knowledge)

>

> Yes, everything cannot be known in this universe.

> Even

> nature has some very complex processes, which we

> cannot explain very clearly.

>

> Do the remedial measures, which does good for you.

> Sometimes one has to try various means of doing

> remedial measures, and it is difficult to choose.

> But

> yajnas, homams, donations are relatively safe. One

> can

> consult any good astrologer and simultaneously apply

> trial and error theory while observing results. This

> is the best approach, I have found for myself till

> to

> date. May it work for others also, but with some

> experiments, I am sure, one can find best approach

> for

> themselves. Yes it involves, time, energy, resources

> as well as money.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> --- surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv

> wrote:

> > Hello,

> >

> > Thanks for your response,

> >

> > But from that point of view .. what sense does it

> > make

> > to have gems for rahu and ketu, something that we

> > call

> > to be the ascending/descending nodes of moon?

> >

> > Logically speaking even a red shirt will absorb

> all

> > color frequencies except the one it shows (or a

> red

> > glass)

> >

> > this is wat is confusing me as I think of it ...

> >

> > More specifically, when we talk of planetary

> > influences in terms of rays/ or gravitational

> pulls

> > it

> > shouldnt make sense to assign gem stones to

> > Rahu/ketu!

> >

> > To an extent I understand that the gem prescribed

> > for

> > a given planet is almost alwyas similar to the

> > physical description given of that planet .. but I

> > am

> > not able to comprehend how it should be helpful to

> > wear a gem without consciously trying to avoid

> > tendencies that the planets bestow on us !

> >

> > I think all this discussion has happened in the

> past

> > ... but i dont remember seeing a proper conclusion

> > for

> > the same ...

> >

> > thanks !

> >

> >

> > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Atmasnehi Sakshaat Narayana,

> > >

> > > Gems are considered as mines of cosmic rays.

> > > The space between molecular structures which are

> > > crystalline, act as

> > > conduits of cosmic rays only of a particular

> > > wavelength.

> > > Coloured gems absorb all the colours except the

> > > colour it allows ,

> > > for example, Ruby would absorb all other

> spectrum

> > of

> > > colours except

> > > red and so on.

> > > Action of stones has been a sumbject of

> contention

> > > but for thousands

> > > of years, people have been recording effects on

> > them

> > > after wearing

> > > different stones.

> > > And out of that record comes fixing different

> gems

> > > for different

> > > planets.

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , surya

> > > vishnubhotla

> > > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > > Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem

> > > stones

> > > > working in fate??

> > > >

> > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > > Have you read Harish Johari's book on

> > gemstones?

> > > If

> > > > > not, please

> > > > > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > OM SAIRAM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for

> 9

> > > > > planets, but

> > > > > > does these 9 gemstones are again

> classified?

> > > like

> > > > > >

> > > > > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red

> > coral

> > > as

> > > > > remedy,but

> > > > > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > > > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana &

> > > debeliated

> > > > > then we can

> > > > > > recommand

> > > > > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > like this are there are different types

> for

> > > each

> > > > > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ss ramesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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You make good points. The worldly beings that we (well most of us)

are, we often read too much in the obvious connections. I realize

that there is a consonance between the stated nature and colour of a

planet and its gemstone, but perhaps there are other attributes of

the chemical mineral that play a role too, and since these are not

clearly known or easily figured out, there will always be many

alternative explanations and resultant confusion ad infinitum.

 

Astrology while named a logy and having a lot of logic and logical

bases and hooks in it is also replete with many fundamental truths

or axioms. Even something so commonplace, basic and routine as the

sequence of dashas (vimshottari for starters!) their duration, the

rulership of most rashis, rulerships of nakshatras, sequence of

horas all of these are not necessarily based on any known logic.

 

There is a physical dimension to astrology, the visible planets the

intersecting nodes of the paths of moon and projected path of earth

are all in a sense tangible or calculatable entities but then one

makes a jump that is too convenient and links it all to the physical

entities or the physical universe. While we use physical planets as

orientation points and markers but perhaps that is where their

usefulness ends and one must leave that dimension and move to

another one to bring it all together.

 

The pointer on the weight-scale in a doctor's office is important

because it gauges something which then requires the doctor to move

into the next dimension and think about weight-gain and what that

then is related to (moving on to amshas, other relationships between

astroindicators which all may not have a physical relationship or

significance. That level of interpretation lives and feeds of

another dimension but does not need the pointer on the weight scale.

Is this making sense, friends? The position of a planet is a

pointer, a starting point, a jumping point. If the pointer is red or

green, may not have a very significant thing in this mix.

 

I am not saying that colour is not important, but if it was the only

important thing, a red tie, or red shirt or an entire red outfit

would have more impact than a shiny tiny piece of red ruby chosen

because of its colour! Kind of like the role of gravity in

astrological phenomenon. It is easy to calculate that the

gravitational pull exerted on the baby from the birthing team and

the mother is a lot more than that exerted on it by pluto or even

jupiter. And, yet, gravitation has been used by many to explain the

basis of astrology (not including Seymore who had a somewhat more

sophisticated theory for the role of gravity as a trigger in

astrological phenomenon).

 

Please do not misunderstand me, I am all for some nice churning and

free-association but then we need to move on to another dimension or

we could get stuck!

 

RR

 

 

 

 

, Neeraj Gupta

<gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Kindly allow me to share my 2 cents. There are several

> theories / explanations regarding gemstones. The

> following two are there

>

> 1) Gem stones are chemcial compounds made up of

> various elements like calcium carbonate etc. Every

> gemstone consists of different elements and they touch

> our skin, when worn, so it acts like a medicine and

> our body slowly absorbs them and hence gives the

> effects.

>

> 2) The second goes through light and cosmic rays, as

> sunlight consists of VIBGYOR, Infrared, UV rays, these

> rays are filtered through the stone and desired sun

> rays and cosmic rays touch our body after passing

> through the stone, so malefic cosmic energy is blocked

> and positive for us is allowed to reach in our body.

>

> These are just explanations, which I have read. As

> such remedial measures don't have a rational thinking

> or a very scientific approach. Shri PVR ji in his book

> has quoted in the chapter of Remedial Measures that we

> will study remedial measures, but there is no rational

> thinking for remedial measures, so those who do not

> believe in remedial measures can skip that particular

> chapter. I remember as these lines were written in

> bold text.

>

> I personally believe that yajnas, homams, prayers,

> donation, mantras, gems do good for me. I have

> experienced it myself, but to prove them

> scienitfically or in a rational way is beyond my reach

> at this stage (may be due to ingnorance or my little

> knowledge)

>

> Yes, everything cannot be known in this universe. Even

> nature has some very complex processes, which we

> cannot explain very clearly.

>

> Do the remedial measures, which does good for you.

> Sometimes one has to try various means of doing

> remedial measures, and it is difficult to choose. But

> yajnas, homams, donations are relatively safe. One can

> consult any good astrologer and simultaneously apply

> trial and error theory while observing results. This

> is the best approach, I have found for myself till to

> date. May it work for others also, but with some

> experiments, I am sure, one can find best approach for

> themselves. Yes it involves, time, energy, resources

> as well as money.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> --- surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv>

> wrote:

> > Hello,

> >

> > Thanks for your response,

> >

> > But from that point of view .. what sense does it

> > make

> > to have gems for rahu and ketu, something that we

> > call

> > to be the ascending/descending nodes of moon?

> >

> > Logically speaking even a red shirt will absorb all

> > color frequencies except the one it shows (or a red

> > glass)

> >

> > this is wat is confusing me as I think of it ...

> >

> > More specifically, when we talk of planetary

> > influences in terms of rays/ or gravitational pulls

> > it

> > shouldnt make sense to assign gem stones to

> > Rahu/ketu!

> >

> > To an extent I understand that the gem prescribed

> > for

> > a given planet is almost alwyas similar to the

> > physical description given of that planet .. but I

> > am

> > not able to comprehend how it should be helpful to

> > wear a gem without consciously trying to avoid

> > tendencies that the planets bestow on us !

> >

> > I think all this discussion has happened in the past

> > ... but i dont remember seeing a proper conclusion

> > for

> > the same ...

> >

> > thanks !

> >

> >

> > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Atmasnehi Sakshaat Narayana,

> > >

> > > Gems are considered as mines of cosmic rays.

> > > The space between molecular structures which are

> > > crystalline, act as

> > > conduits of cosmic rays only of a particular

> > > wavelength.

> > > Coloured gems absorb all the colours except the

> > > colour it allows ,

> > > for example, Ruby would absorb all other spectrum

> > of

> > > colours except

> > > red and so on.

> > > Action of stones has been a sumbject of contention

> > > but for thousands

> > > of years, people have been recording effects on

> > them

> > > after wearing

> > > different stones.

> > > And out of that record comes fixing different gems

> > > for different

> > > planets.

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , surya

> > > vishnubhotla

> > > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > > Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem

> > > stones

> > > > working in fate??

> > > >

> > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > > Have you read Harish Johari's book on

> > gemstones?

> > > If

> > > > > not, please

> > > > > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > OM SAIRAM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9

> > > > > planets, but

> > > > > > does these 9 gemstones are again classified?

> > > like

> > > > > >

> > > > > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red

> > coral

> > > as

> > > > > remedy,but

> > > > > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > > > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana &

> > > debeliated

> > > > > then we can

> > > > > > recommand

> > > > > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > like this are there are different types for

> > > each

> > > > > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ss ramesh

> > > > >

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Sri RR wrote,

"I am not saying that colour is not important, but if it was the only

important thing, a red tie, or red shirt or an entire red outfit

would have more impact than a shiny tiny piece of red ruby chosen

because of its colour! "

 

How do Homeopathic medicines work?

They are diluted to millionth potency.

Strange are ways of nature.

Some phenemenons are beyond capacity of limited human perception.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

> You make good points. The worldly beings that we (well most of us)

> are, we often read too much in the obvious connections. I realize

> that there is a consonance between the stated nature and colour of

a

> planet and its gemstone, but perhaps there are other attributes of

> the chemical mineral that play a role too, and since these are not

> clearly known or easily figured out, there will always be many

> alternative explanations and resultant confusion ad infinitum.

>

> Astrology while named a logy and having a lot of logic and logical

> bases and hooks in it is also replete with many fundamental truths

> or axioms. Even something so commonplace, basic and routine as the

> sequence of dashas (vimshottari for starters!) their duration, the

> rulership of most rashis, rulerships of nakshatras, sequence of

> horas all of these are not necessarily based on any known logic.

>

> There is a physical dimension to astrology, the visible planets the

> intersecting nodes of the paths of moon and projected path of earth

> are all in a sense tangible or calculatable entities but then one

> makes a jump that is too convenient and links it all to the

physical

> entities or the physical universe. While we use physical planets as

> orientation points and markers but perhaps that is where their

> usefulness ends and one must leave that dimension and move to

> another one to bring it all together.

>

> The pointer on the weight-scale in a doctor's office is important

> because it gauges something which then requires the doctor to move

> into the next dimension and think about weight-gain and what that

> then is related to (moving on to amshas, other relationships

between

> astroindicators which all may not have a physical relationship or

> significance. That level of interpretation lives and feeds of

> another dimension but does not need the pointer on the weight

scale.

> Is this making sense, friends? The position of a planet is a

> pointer, a starting point, a jumping point. If the pointer is red

or

> green, may not have a very significant thing in this mix.

>

> I am not saying that colour is not important, but if it was the

only

> important thing, a red tie, or red shirt or an entire red outfit

> would have more impact than a shiny tiny piece of red ruby chosen

> because of its colour! Kind of like the role of gravity in

> astrological phenomenon. It is easy to calculate that the

> gravitational pull exerted on the baby from the birthing team and

> the mother is a lot more than that exerted on it by pluto or even

> jupiter. And, yet, gravitation has been used by many to explain the

> basis of astrology (not including Seymore who had a somewhat more

> sophisticated theory for the role of gravity as a trigger in

> astrological phenomenon).

>

> Please do not misunderstand me, I am all for some nice churning and

> free-association but then we need to move on to another dimension

or

> we could get stuck!

>

> RR

>

>

>

>

> , Neeraj Gupta

> <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> > Kindly allow me to share my 2 cents. There are several

> > theories / explanations regarding gemstones. The

> > following two are there

> >

> > 1) Gem stones are chemcial compounds made up of

> > various elements like calcium carbonate etc. Every

> > gemstone consists of different elements and they touch

> > our skin, when worn, so it acts like a medicine and

> > our body slowly absorbs them and hence gives the

> > effects.

> >

> > 2) The second goes through light and cosmic rays, as

> > sunlight consists of VIBGYOR, Infrared, UV rays, these

> > rays are filtered through the stone and desired sun

> > rays and cosmic rays touch our body after passing

> > through the stone, so malefic cosmic energy is blocked

> > and positive for us is allowed to reach in our body.

> >

> > These are just explanations, which I have read. As

> > such remedial measures don't have a rational thinking

> > or a very scientific approach. Shri PVR ji in his book

> > has quoted in the chapter of Remedial Measures that we

> > will study remedial measures, but there is no rational

> > thinking for remedial measures, so those who do not

> > believe in remedial measures can skip that particular

> > chapter. I remember as these lines were written in

> > bold text.

> >

> > I personally believe that yajnas, homams, prayers,

> > donation, mantras, gems do good for me. I have

> > experienced it myself, but to prove them

> > scienitfically or in a rational way is beyond my reach

> > at this stage (may be due to ingnorance or my little

> > knowledge)

> >

> > Yes, everything cannot be known in this universe. Even

> > nature has some very complex processes, which we

> > cannot explain very clearly.

> >

> > Do the remedial measures, which does good for you.

> > Sometimes one has to try various means of doing

> > remedial measures, and it is difficult to choose. But

> > yajnas, homams, donations are relatively safe. One can

> > consult any good astrologer and simultaneously apply

> > trial and error theory while observing results. This

> > is the best approach, I have found for myself till to

> > date. May it work for others also, but with some

> > experiments, I am sure, one can find best approach for

> > themselves. Yes it involves, time, energy, resources

> > as well as money.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> >

> > --- surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your response,

> > >

> > > But from that point of view .. what sense does it

> > > make

> > > to have gems for rahu and ketu, something that we

> > > call

> > > to be the ascending/descending nodes of moon?

> > >

> > > Logically speaking even a red shirt will absorb all

> > > color frequencies except the one it shows (or a red

> > > glass)

> > >

> > > this is wat is confusing me as I think of it ...

> > >

> > > More specifically, when we talk of planetary

> > > influences in terms of rays/ or gravitational pulls

> > > it

> > > shouldnt make sense to assign gem stones to

> > > Rahu/ketu!

> > >

> > > To an extent I understand that the gem prescribed

> > > for

> > > a given planet is almost alwyas similar to the

> > > physical description given of that planet .. but I

> > > am

> > > not able to comprehend how it should be helpful to

> > > wear a gem without consciously trying to avoid

> > > tendencies that the planets bestow on us !

> > >

> > > I think all this discussion has happened in the past

> > > ... but i dont remember seeing a proper conclusion

> > > for

> > > the same ...

> > >

> > > thanks !

> > >

> > >

> > > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Atmasnehi Sakshaat Narayana,

> > > >

> > > > Gems are considered as mines of cosmic rays.

> > > > The space between molecular structures which are

> > > > crystalline, act as

> > > > conduits of cosmic rays only of a particular

> > > > wavelength.

> > > > Coloured gems absorb all the colours except the

> > > > colour it allows ,

> > > > for example, Ruby would absorb all other spectrum

> > > of

> > > > colours except

> > > > red and so on.

> > > > Action of stones has been a sumbject of contention

> > > > but for thousands

> > > > of years, people have been recording effects on

> > > them

> > > > after wearing

> > > > different stones.

> > > > And out of that record comes fixing different gems

> > > > for different

> > > > planets.

> > > >

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , surya

> > > > vishnubhotla

> > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > > > Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem

> > > > stones

> > > > > working in fate??

> > > > >

> > > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > > > Have you read Harish Johari's book on

> > > gemstones?

> > > > If

> > > > > > not, please

> > > > > > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > > OM SAIRAM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9

> > > > > > planets, but

> > > > > > > does these 9 gemstones are again classified?

> > > > like

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red

> > > coral

> > > > as

> > > > > > remedy,but

> > > > > > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > > > > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana &

> > > > debeliated

> > > > > > then we can

> > > > > > > recommand

> > > > > > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > like this are there are different types for

> > > > each

> > > > > > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ss ramesh

> > > > > >

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another good example, although some say that they probably work by

waking up the inner physician or inner healer -- kind of like what

some placebos do, but let us not go there!

 

Fully agree about limited human perception and therefore am amazed

that astrologers of all people get so concrete at times when they

try to define the astrological reality.

 

We (collectively) know very little about even the physical and

closer universe, and astrology lives in the mental/spiritual plane --

that is where its levers and gears are. Perhaps it is best not to

be too definitive about it all.

 

RR

 

 

 

 

, "om_tatsat_om"

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Sri RR wrote,

> "I am not saying that colour is not important, but if it was the

only

> important thing, a red tie, or red shirt or an entire red outfit

> would have more impact than a shiny tiny piece of red ruby chosen

> because of its colour! "

>

> How do Homeopathic medicines work?

> They are diluted to millionth potency.

> Strange are ways of nature.

> Some phenemenons are beyond capacity of limited human perception.

>

>

>

>

>

>

, "rohiniranjan"

<rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> > You make good points. The worldly beings that we (well most of

us)

> > are, we often read too much in the obvious connections. I

realize

> > that there is a consonance between the stated nature and colour

of

> a

> > planet and its gemstone, but perhaps there are other attributes

of

> > the chemical mineral that play a role too, and since these are

not

> > clearly known or easily figured out, there will always be many

> > alternative explanations and resultant confusion ad infinitum.

> >

> > Astrology while named a logy and having a lot of logic and

logical

> > bases and hooks in it is also replete with many fundamental

truths

> > or axioms. Even something so commonplace, basic and routine as

the

> > sequence of dashas (vimshottari for starters!) their duration,

the

> > rulership of most rashis, rulerships of nakshatras, sequence of

> > horas all of these are not necessarily based on any known logic.

> >

> > There is a physical dimension to astrology, the visible planets

the

> > intersecting nodes of the paths of moon and projected path of

earth

> > are all in a sense tangible or calculatable entities but then

one

> > makes a jump that is too convenient and links it all to the

> physical

> > entities or the physical universe. While we use physical planets

as

> > orientation points and markers but perhaps that is where their

> > usefulness ends and one must leave that dimension and move to

> > another one to bring it all together.

> >

> > The pointer on the weight-scale in a doctor's office is

important

> > because it gauges something which then requires the doctor to

move

> > into the next dimension and think about weight-gain and what

that

> > then is related to (moving on to amshas, other relationships

> between

> > astroindicators which all may not have a physical relationship

or

> > significance. That level of interpretation lives and feeds of

> > another dimension but does not need the pointer on the weight

> scale.

> > Is this making sense, friends? The position of a planet is a

> > pointer, a starting point, a jumping point. If the pointer is

red

> or

> > green, may not have a very significant thing in this mix.

> >

> > I am not saying that colour is not important, but if it was the

> only

> > important thing, a red tie, or red shirt or an entire red outfit

> > would have more impact than a shiny tiny piece of red ruby

chosen

> > because of its colour! Kind of like the role of gravity in

> > astrological phenomenon. It is easy to calculate that the

> > gravitational pull exerted on the baby from the birthing team

and

> > the mother is a lot more than that exerted on it by pluto or

even

> > jupiter. And, yet, gravitation has been used by many to explain

the

> > basis of astrology (not including Seymore who had a somewhat

more

> > sophisticated theory for the role of gravity as a trigger in

> > astrological phenomenon).

> >

> > Please do not misunderstand me, I am all for some nice churning

and

> > free-association but then we need to move on to another

dimension

> or

> > we could get stuck!

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Neeraj Gupta

> > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > > Kindly allow me to share my 2 cents. There are several

> > > theories / explanations regarding gemstones. The

> > > following two are there

> > >

> > > 1) Gem stones are chemcial compounds made up of

> > > various elements like calcium carbonate etc. Every

> > > gemstone consists of different elements and they touch

> > > our skin, when worn, so it acts like a medicine and

> > > our body slowly absorbs them and hence gives the

> > > effects.

> > >

> > > 2) The second goes through light and cosmic rays, as

> > > sunlight consists of VIBGYOR, Infrared, UV rays, these

> > > rays are filtered through the stone and desired sun

> > > rays and cosmic rays touch our body after passing

> > > through the stone, so malefic cosmic energy is blocked

> > > and positive for us is allowed to reach in our body.

> > >

> > > These are just explanations, which I have read. As

> > > such remedial measures don't have a rational thinking

> > > or a very scientific approach. Shri PVR ji in his book

> > > has quoted in the chapter of Remedial Measures that we

> > > will study remedial measures, but there is no rational

> > > thinking for remedial measures, so those who do not

> > > believe in remedial measures can skip that particular

> > > chapter. I remember as these lines were written in

> > > bold text.

> > >

> > > I personally believe that yajnas, homams, prayers,

> > > donation, mantras, gems do good for me. I have

> > > experienced it myself, but to prove them

> > > scienitfically or in a rational way is beyond my reach

> > > at this stage (may be due to ingnorance or my little

> > > knowledge)

> > >

> > > Yes, everything cannot be known in this universe. Even

> > > nature has some very complex processes, which we

> > > cannot explain very clearly.

> > >

> > > Do the remedial measures, which does good for you.

> > > Sometimes one has to try various means of doing

> > > remedial measures, and it is difficult to choose. But

> > > yajnas, homams, donations are relatively safe. One can

> > > consult any good astrologer and simultaneously apply

> > > trial and error theory while observing results. This

> > > is the best approach, I have found for myself till to

> > > date. May it work for others also, but with some

> > > experiments, I am sure, one can find best approach for

> > > themselves. Yes it involves, time, energy, resources

> > > as well as money.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > > --- surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hello,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your response,

> > > >

> > > > But from that point of view .. what sense does it

> > > > make

> > > > to have gems for rahu and ketu, something that we

> > > > call

> > > > to be the ascending/descending nodes of moon?

> > > >

> > > > Logically speaking even a red shirt will absorb all

> > > > color frequencies except the one it shows (or a red

> > > > glass)

> > > >

> > > > this is wat is confusing me as I think of it ...

> > > >

> > > > More specifically, when we talk of planetary

> > > > influences in terms of rays/ or gravitational pulls

> > > > it

> > > > shouldnt make sense to assign gem stones to

> > > > Rahu/ketu!

> > > >

> > > > To an extent I understand that the gem prescribed

> > > > for

> > > > a given planet is almost alwyas similar to the

> > > > physical description given of that planet .. but I

> > > > am

> > > > not able to comprehend how it should be helpful to

> > > > wear a gem without consciously trying to avoid

> > > > tendencies that the planets bestow on us !

> > > >

> > > > I think all this discussion has happened in the past

> > > > ... but i dont remember seeing a proper conclusion

> > > > for

> > > > the same ...

> > > >

> > > > thanks !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Atmasnehi Sakshaat Narayana,

> > > > >

> > > > > Gems are considered as mines of cosmic rays.

> > > > > The space between molecular structures which are

> > > > > crystalline, act as

> > > > > conduits of cosmic rays only of a particular

> > > > > wavelength.

> > > > > Coloured gems absorb all the colours except the

> > > > > colour it allows ,

> > > > > for example, Ruby would absorb all other spectrum

> > > > of

> > > > > colours except

> > > > > red and so on.

> > > > > Action of stones has been a sumbject of contention

> > > > > but for thousands

> > > > > of years, people have been recording effects on

> > > > them

> > > > > after wearing

> > > > > different stones.

> > > > > And out of that record comes fixing different gems

> > > > > for different

> > > > > planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , surya

> > > > > vishnubhotla

> > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > > > > Generally speaking w3hat is the basis for gem

> > > > > stones

> > > > > > working in fate??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Have you read Harish Johari's book on

> > > > gemstones?

> > > > > If

> > > > > > > not, please

> > > > > > > acquire a copy. It will be a good start.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > > "ssz_dreams"

> > > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:

> > > > > > > > OM SAIRAM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > we all know that there are 9 gemstones for 9

> > > > > > > planets, but

> > > > > > > > does these 9 gemstones are again classified?

> > > > > like

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > CORAL is for mars , generally we use red

> > > > coral

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > remedy,but

> > > > > > > > whats about WHITE CORAL?

> > > > > > > > when moon & mars are in parivarthana &

> > > > > debeliated

> > > > > > > then we can

> > > > > > > > recommand

> > > > > > > > white coral , as white is for moon?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > like this are there are different types for

> > > > > each

> > > > > > > gemstone(9 gems)?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ss ramesh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear frined,

 

Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras etc) it

is widly accepted that more subtle the introduction of

material more the power it carries ..

 

Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater dilution

... and in spirituality pertains to suggestion sent

forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

 

In some ways physics works on the same principles the

greatest of the energies is stored in the smallest of

the particles ...

 

 

--- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Sri RR wrote,

> "I am not saying that colour is not important, but

> if it was the only

> important thing, a red tie, or red shirt or an

> entire red outfit

> would have more impact than a shiny tiny piece of

> red ruby chosen

> because of its colour! "

>

> How do Homeopathic medicines work?

> They are diluted to millionth potency.

> Strange are ways of nature.

> Some phenemenons are beyond capacity of limited

> human perception.

>

>

>

>

>

>

,

> "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> > You make good points. The worldly beings that we

> (well most of us)

> > are, we often read too much in the obvious

> connections. I realize

> > that there is a consonance between the stated

> nature and colour of

> a

> > planet and its gemstone, but perhaps there are

> other attributes of

> > the chemical mineral that play a role too, and

> since these are not

> > clearly known or easily figured out, there will

> always be many

> > alternative explanations and resultant confusion

> ad infinitum.

> >

> > Astrology while named a logy and having a lot of

> logic and logical

> > bases and hooks in it is also replete with many

> fundamental truths

> > or axioms. Even something so commonplace, basic

> and routine as the

> > sequence of dashas (vimshottari for starters!)

> their duration, the

> > rulership of most rashis, rulerships of

> nakshatras, sequence of

> > horas all of these are not necessarily based on

> any known logic.

> >

> > There is a physical dimension to astrology, the

> visible planets the

> > intersecting nodes of the paths of moon and

> projected path of earth

> > are all in a sense tangible or calculatable

> entities but then one

> > makes a jump that is too convenient and links it

> all to the

> physical

> > entities or the physical universe. While we use

> physical planets as

> > orientation points and markers but perhaps that is

> where their

> > usefulness ends and one must leave that dimension

> and move to

> > another one to bring it all together.

> >

> > The pointer on the weight-scale in a doctor's

> office is important

> > because it gauges something which then requires

> the doctor to move

> > into the next dimension and think about

> weight-gain and what that

> > then is related to (moving on to amshas, other

> relationships

> between

> > astroindicators which all may not have a physical

> relationship or

> > significance. That level of interpretation lives

> and feeds of

> > another dimension but does not need the pointer on

> the weight

> scale.

> > Is this making sense, friends? The position of a

> planet is a

> > pointer, a starting point, a jumping point. If the

> pointer is red

> or

> > green, may not have a very significant thing in

> this mix.

> >

> > I am not saying that colour is not important, but

> if it was the

> only

> > important thing, a red tie, or red shirt or an

> entire red outfit

> > would have more impact than a shiny tiny piece of

> red ruby chosen

> > because of its colour! Kind of like the role of

> gravity in

> > astrological phenomenon. It is easy to calculate

> that the

> > gravitational pull exerted on the baby from the

> birthing team and

> > the mother is a lot more than that exerted on it

> by pluto or even

> > jupiter. And, yet, gravitation has been used by

> many to explain the

> > basis of astrology (not including Seymore who had

> a somewhat more

> > sophisticated theory for the role of gravity as a

> trigger in

> > astrological phenomenon).

> >

> > Please do not misunderstand me, I am all for some

> nice churning and

> > free-association but then we need to move on to

> another dimension

> or

> > we could get stuck!

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Neeraj

> Gupta

> > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > > Kindly allow me to share my 2 cents. There are

> several

> > > theories / explanations regarding gemstones. The

> > > following two are there

> > >

> > > 1) Gem stones are chemcial compounds made up of

> > > various elements like calcium carbonate etc.

> Every

> > > gemstone consists of different elements and they

> touch

> > > our skin, when worn, so it acts like a medicine

> and

> > > our body slowly absorbs them and hence gives the

> > > effects.

> > >

> > > 2) The second goes through light and cosmic

> rays, as

> > > sunlight consists of VIBGYOR, Infrared, UV rays,

> these

> > > rays are filtered through the stone and desired

> sun

> > > rays and cosmic rays touch our body after

> passing

> > > through the stone, so malefic cosmic energy is

> blocked

> > > and positive for us is allowed to reach in our

> body.

> > >

> > > These are just explanations, which I have read.

> As

> > > such remedial measures don't have a rational

> thinking

> > > or a very scientific approach. Shri PVR ji in

> his book

> > > has quoted in the chapter of Remedial Measures

> that we

> > > will study remedial measures, but there is no

> rational

> > > thinking for remedial measures, so those who do

> not

> > > believe in remedial measures can skip that

> particular

> > > chapter. I remember as these lines were written

> in

> > > bold text.

> > >

> > > I personally believe that yajnas, homams,

> prayers,

> > > donation, mantras, gems do good for me. I have

> > > experienced it myself, but to prove them

> > > scienitfically or in a rational way is beyond my

> reach

> > > at this stage (may be due to ingnorance or my

> little

> > > knowledge)

> > >

> > > Yes, everything cannot be known in this

> universe. Even

>

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Dear Fiend,

As a practitioner of Homeopathy abt 35 years back, this being is well

aware of how it works but why it works in small dosages is a mystery.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Dear frined,

>

> Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras etc) it

> is widly accepted that more subtle the introduction of

> material more the power it carries ..

>

> Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater dilution

> .. and in spirituality pertains to suggestion sent

> forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

>

> In some ways physics works on the same principles the

> greatest of the energies is stored in the smallest of

> the particles ...

>

>

> --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

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hormesis might be a good concept to explain this. It is not limited

to just homeopathy.

 

 

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>

> Dear Fiend,

> As a practitioner of Homeopathy abt 35 years back, this being is

well

> aware of how it works but why it works in small dosages is a

mystery.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> , surya vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Dear frined,

> >

> > Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras etc) it

> > is widly accepted that more subtle the introduction of

> > material more the power it carries ..

> >

> > Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater dilution

> > .. and in spirituality pertains to suggestion sent

> > forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

> >

> > In some ways physics works on the same principles the

> > greatest of the energies is stored in the smallest of

> > the particles ...

> >

> >

> > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Yes sir I didnt mean to contest that :) ...

 

I just triggered the anology because I have been

wondering about this for sometime now ever since I

have been trying to make sense of rhustox, bryonia on

one hand and mantras on the other .. just sharing a

lazy afternoon thought I guess :)

 

--- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om wrote:

>

> Dear Fiend,

> As a practitioner of Homeopathy abt 35 years back,

> this being is well

> aware of how it works but why it works in small

> dosages is a mystery.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> , surya

> vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Dear frined,

> >

> > Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras etc)

> it

> > is widly accepted that more subtle the

> introduction of

> > material more the power it carries ..

> >

> > Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater

> dilution

> > .. and in spirituality pertains to suggestion sent

> > forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

> >

> > In some ways physics works on the same principles

> the

> > greatest of the energies is stored in the smallest

> of

> > the particles ...

> >

> >

> > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear friends,

As far as homeo medicines are concerned,these are not working in

small dose but rather these work at energy level.

Beyound 6th or 12th potency, the the homeo medicines donot contain

the chemical substence.

If one analyse the medicine of 12th potency it will contain only

sugar or alcohal ( sugar pill or alcohal medium), chemical substence

will not be tracable, due to dilution and dilution carried out along

with potentiation.

So it is magic. or the substence is available in energy form or

spritual form. It works and cures.

I have not done resarch on these but what I have seen that as per

particular constitution medicine works which can be related to

astrological considerations.

Like Argetum Nit and Ignitia works well with Mercurian people.

Sulpher goes well with so many people but particularly suits

Saturanian people.

Etc .

Inder

 

 

, "om_tatsat_om"

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

>

> Dear Fiend,

> As a practitioner of Homeopathy abt 35 years back, this being is

well

> aware of how it works but why it works in small dosages is a

mystery.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> , surya vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Dear frined,

> >

> > Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras etc) it

> > is widly accepted that more subtle the introduction of

> > material more the power it carries ..

> >

> > Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater dilution

> > .. and in spirituality pertains to suggestion sent

> > forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

> >

> > In some ways physics works on the same principles the

> > greatest of the energies is stored in the smallest of

> > the particles ...

> >

> >

> > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Inder,

 

Homeopathy being a symptomatic system of curing .. I

believe astrology can help u understand the root of

patients symptoms better ... for example a

predominantly cancerian tendency would call for drug

treatment line that also cater to the mind ..

 

with dilution I believe the drug is there in ionized

form ... now if ionization is spiritual then maybe we

are understanding wat sprituality is :)

 

--- Inder <indervohra2001 wrote:

> Dear friends,

> As far as homeo medicines are concerned,these are

> not working in

> small dose but rather these work at energy level.

> Beyound 6th or 12th potency, the the homeo medicines

> donot contain

> the chemical substence.

> If one analyse the medicine of 12th potency it will

> contain only

> sugar or alcohal ( sugar pill or alcohal medium),

> chemical substence

> will not be tracable, due to dilution and dilution

> carried out along

> with potentiation.

> So it is magic. or the substence is available in

> energy form or

> spritual form. It works and cures.

> I have not done resarch on these but what I have

> seen that as per

> particular constitution medicine works which can be

> related to

> astrological considerations.

> Like Argetum Nit and Ignitia works well with

> Mercurian people.

> Sulpher goes well with so many people but

> particularly suits

> Saturanian people.

> Etc .

> Inder

>

>

> ,

> "om_tatsat_om"

> <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Fiend,

> > As a practitioner of Homeopathy abt 35 years back,

> this being is

> well

> > aware of how it works but why it works in small

> dosages is a

> mystery.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> > , surya

> vishnubhotla

> > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > Dear frined,

> > >

> > > Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras

> etc) it

> > > is widly accepted that more subtle the

> introduction of

> > > material more the power it carries ..

> > >

> > > Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater

> dilution

> > > .. and in spirituality pertains to suggestion

> sent

> > > forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

> > >

> > > In some ways physics works on the same

> principles the

> > > greatest of the energies is stored in the

> smallest of

> > > the particles ...

> > >

> > >

> > > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Group,

 

I do not know, whether homoeopathy deserve discussion in this forum, I would

only mention that the real cure of a patient is possible after the miasmatic

base is identified and then treated by homoeo medicines.

 

The isolated mention of Arg. Nit, Rhus Tox, Bryonia, Sulphur etc is too

superficial a discussion for cure in the domain of homoeopathy.

 

Possibly, a discussion may start, what attributes are required to be seen in

a chart if the energy medicines like homoeo, Reiki etc are to be helpful for

cure to a patient.

 

Thanks,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

-

"Inder" <indervohra2001

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Thursday, June 03, 2004 5:14 PM

Re: ASTROLOGERS(doubts):Deeper classification of gemstones

required?

 

 

> Dear friends,

> As far as homeo medicines are concerned,these are not working in

> small dose but rather these work at energy level.

> Beyound 6th or 12th potency, the the homeo medicines donot contain

> the chemical substence.

> If one analyse the medicine of 12th potency it will contain only

> sugar or alcohal ( sugar pill or alcohal medium), chemical substence

> will not be tracable, due to dilution and dilution carried out along

> with potentiation.

> So it is magic. or the substence is available in energy form or

> spritual form. It works and cures.

> I have not done resarch on these but what I have seen that as per

> particular constitution medicine works which can be related to

> astrological considerations.

> Like Argetum Nit and Ignitia works well with Mercurian people.

> Sulpher goes well with so many people but particularly suits

> Saturanian people.

> Etc .

> Inder

>

>

> , "om_tatsat_om"

> <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Fiend,

> > As a practitioner of Homeopathy abt 35 years back, this being is

> well

> > aware of how it works but why it works in small dosages is a

> mystery.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> > , surya vishnubhotla

> > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > Dear frined,

> > >

> > > Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras etc) it

> > > is widly accepted that more subtle the introduction of

> > > material more the power it carries ..

> > >

> > > Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater dilution

> > > .. and in spirituality pertains to suggestion sent

> > > forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

> > >

> > > In some ways physics works on the same principles the

> > > greatest of the energies is stored in the smallest of

> > > the particles ...

> > >

> > >

> > > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

>

>

>

>

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No dear,

The drug or substance is not in ionised or in any other form.

Chemical analysis shows that drug in not at all avalaible in the

homeo medicine. That is why homeo practice is also considered

unscientific by many.

Inder

 

- In , surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Inder,

>

> Homeopathy being a symptomatic system of curing .. I

> believe astrology can help u understand the root of

> patients symptoms better ... for example a

> predominantly cancerian tendency would call for drug

> treatment line that also cater to the mind ..

>

> with dilution I believe the drug is there in ionized

> form ... now if ionization is spiritual then maybe we

> are understanding wat sprituality is :)

>

> --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > Dear friends,

> > As far as homeo medicines are concerned,these are

> > not working in

> > small dose but rather these work at energy level.

> > Beyound 6th or 12th potency, the the homeo medicines

> > donot contain

> > the chemical substence.

> > If one analyse the medicine of 12th potency it will

> > contain only

> > sugar or alcohal ( sugar pill or alcohal medium),

> > chemical substence

> > will not be tracable, due to dilution and dilution

> > carried out along

> > with potentiation.

> > So it is magic. or the substence is available in

> > energy form or

> > spritual form. It works and cures.

> > I have not done resarch on these but what I have

> > seen that as per

> > particular constitution medicine works which can be

> > related to

> > astrological considerations.

> > Like Argetum Nit and Ignitia works well with

> > Mercurian people.

> > Sulpher goes well with so many people but

> > particularly suits

> > Saturanian people.

> > Etc .

> > Inder

> >

> >

> > ,

> > "om_tatsat_om"

> > <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Fiend,

> > > As a practitioner of Homeopathy abt 35 years back,

> > this being is

> > well

> > > aware of how it works but why it works in small

> > dosages is a

> > mystery.

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , surya

> > vishnubhotla

> > > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > > Dear frined,

> > > >

> > > > Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras

> > etc) it

> > > > is widly accepted that more subtle the

> > introduction of

> > > > material more the power it carries ..

> > > >

> > > > Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater

> > dilution

> > > > .. and in spirituality pertains to suggestion

> > sent

> > > > forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

> > > >

> > > > In some ways physics works on the same

> > principles the

> > > > greatest of the energies is stored in the

> > smallest of

> > > > the particles ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hmm .. ok .. I was not aware of this :)

Now that u have said it's amazing science really !

 

--- Inder <indervohra2001 wrote:

> No dear,

> The drug or substance is not in ionised or in any

> other form.

> Chemical analysis shows that drug in not at all

> avalaible in the

> homeo medicine. That is why homeo practice is also

> considered

> unscientific by many.

> Inder

>

> - In , surya

> vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Inder,

> >

> > Homeopathy being a symptomatic system of curing ..

> I

> > believe astrology can help u understand the root

> of

> > patients symptoms better ... for example a

> > predominantly cancerian tendency would call for

> drug

> > treatment line that also cater to the mind ..

> >

> > with dilution I believe the drug is there in

> ionized

> > form ... now if ionization is spiritual then maybe

> we

> > are understanding wat sprituality is :)

> >

> > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > > Dear friends,

> > > As far as homeo medicines are concerned,these

> are

> > > not working in

> > > small dose but rather these work at energy

> level.

> > > Beyound 6th or 12th potency, the the homeo

> medicines

> > > donot contain

> > > the chemical substence.

> > > If one analyse the medicine of 12th potency it

> will

> > > contain only

> > > sugar or alcohal ( sugar pill or alcohal

> medium),

> > > chemical substence

> > > will not be tracable, due to dilution and

> dilution

> > > carried out along

> > > with potentiation.

> > > So it is magic. or the substence is available in

> > > energy form or

> > > spritual form. It works and cures.

> > > I have not done resarch on these but what I have

> > > seen that as per

> > > particular constitution medicine works which can

> be

> > > related to

> > > astrological considerations.

> > > Like Argetum Nit and Ignitia works well with

> > > Mercurian people.

> > > Sulpher goes well with so many people but

> > > particularly suits

> > > Saturanian people.

> > > Etc .

> > > Inder

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > "om_tatsat_om"

> > > <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Fiend,

> > > > As a practitioner of Homeopathy abt 35 years

> back,

> > > this being is

> > > well

> > > > aware of how it works but why it works in

> small

> > > dosages is a

> > > mystery.

> > > >

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , surya

> > > vishnubhotla

> > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > > > Dear frined,

> > > > >

> > > > > Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras

> > > etc) it

> > > > > is widly accepted that more subtle the

> > > introduction of

> > > > > material more the power it carries ..

> > > > >

> > > > > Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater

> > > dilution

> > > > > .. and in spirituality pertains to

> suggestion

> > > sent

> > > > > forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

> > > > >

> > > > > In some ways physics works on the same

> > > principles the

> > > > > greatest of the energies is stored in the

> > > smallest of

> > > > > the particles ...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger.

> > http://messenger./

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes dear,

Discussion on homeopathy may not be good here.

But to reply you on miasmic study, suppose a patient comes to you

with an injury, will you apply calendula and admister Arnia or you

will go for searching miasm.

I raise the point when somebody mentioned that homeo works on small

dose etc under discussion on working effects of gems. I wanted to

clarify that homeo medicines are working at energy level not

material level.

Thanks.

Inder

- In , "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...>

wrote:

> Dear Group,

>

> I do not know, whether homoeopathy deserve discussion in this

forum, I would

> only mention that the real cure of a patient is possible after the

miasmatic

> base is identified and then treated by homoeo medicines.

>

> The isolated mention of Arg. Nit, Rhus Tox, Bryonia, Sulphur etc

is too

> superficial a discussion for cure in the domain of homoeopathy.

>

> Possibly, a discussion may start, what attributes are required to

be seen in

> a chart if the energy medicines like homoeo, Reiki etc are to be

helpful for

> cure to a patient.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Vijay Kumar

>

> -

> "Inder" <indervohra2001>

> <>

> Thursday, June 03, 2004 5:14 PM

> Re: ASTROLOGERS(doubts):Deeper classification of

gemstones

> required?

>

>

> > Dear friends,

> > As far as homeo medicines are concerned,these are not working in

> > small dose but rather these work at energy level.

> > Beyound 6th or 12th potency, the the homeo medicines donot

contain

> > the chemical substence.

> > If one analyse the medicine of 12th potency it will contain only

> > sugar or alcohal ( sugar pill or alcohal medium), chemical

substence

> > will not be tracable, due to dilution and dilution carried out

along

> > with potentiation.

> > So it is magic. or the substence is available in energy form or

> > spritual form. It works and cures.

> > I have not done resarch on these but what I have seen that as per

> > particular constitution medicine works which can be related to

> > astrological considerations.

> > Like Argetum Nit and Ignitia works well with Mercurian people.

> > Sulpher goes well with so many people but particularly suits

> > Saturanian people.

> > Etc .

> > Inder

> >

> >

> > , "om_tatsat_om"

> > <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Fiend,

> > > As a practitioner of Homeopathy abt 35 years back, this being

is

> > well

> > > aware of how it works but why it works in small dosages is a

> > mystery.

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , surya vishnubhotla

> > > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > > Dear frined,

> > > >

> > > > Both in homeopathy, spirituality (or mantras etc) it

> > > > is widly accepted that more subtle the introduction of

> > > > material more the power it carries ..

> > > >

> > > > Subtlity in homeopathy translates to greater dilution

> > > > .. and in spirituality pertains to suggestion sent

> > > > forth in teh most unnoticable manner ...

> > > >

> > > > In some ways physics works on the same principles the

> > > > greatest of the energies is stored in the smallest of

> > > > the particles ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- om_tatsat_om <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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