DEBILITATED SATURN IN 6, 8 or 12th -A WINDFALL ???

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Dear K. Ajith,

 

Thanks for the information. I might have put the question in wrong

way. I am not looking at a windfall in terms of finances only. I am

looking at it in terms of decrease of bad feects of 8th house due to

placement of debilitated Saturn. (or any other debilitated planet in

any of dushthana)

 

Don't you also feel so.

 

I would like to also bring to your notice that whenever I have

invested in share market I have burnt my fingers.

 

I had read in a book by Mr. Dhamija, that there are some 10 different

ways whereby the Neechbhang takes place. One of which is placement of

debilitated planet and its exlatation house in quadrants either from

lagana/ascendant or moon.

 

I look forward to your comments and INVITE OTHER MEMBERS TO PLEASE

COMMENT ON THIS.

 

Regards

Sanjay

 

 

, ajith@o... wrote:

>

> Dear Sharma,

>

> There is no Neechbhang yoga. With debilitated Saturn in Aries and

Mars in

> Scorpio not in a quadrant. Saturn remains debilitated. Saturn is

ayus

> karaka and it's placement in 8th house is generally good but

debilitated

> statues renders that weak. Windfall could be due more to Jupiter's

aspect

> on the fifth house of speculation.

>

> Reg

>

>

> K. Ajith

>

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Dispositor of exaltation (4+4), planet that gets exalted in the sign

(4+4), in kendra from ascendant and or moon -- those are the

positions that I have heard of. More the merrier, of course although

due to the cryptic nature of astrological statements particularly in

classics, it makes sense to look at the strength of the critical

orientation points, moon and ascendant.

 

To these some add, in kendra from the planet in question. That is

too many cancellations (there are more minor ones) almost reduces

cancellation to a horror movie. If you must watch, all you got to do

is close your ears (sound is a big thing in invoking fear!) and if

that does not work, close your eyes and the boogy man will go away!

 

Don't turn off the television, please, because that would be

tantamount to giving up astrology!

 

 

RR

 

, "s16444" <s16444>

wrote:

> Dear K. Ajith,

>

> Thanks for the information. I might have put the question in wrong

> way. I am not looking at a windfall in terms of finances only. I

am

> looking at it in terms of decrease of bad feects of 8th house due

to

> placement of debilitated Saturn. (or any other debilitated planet

in

> any of dushthana)

>

> Don't you also feel so.

>

> I would like to also bring to your notice that whenever I have

> invested in share market I have burnt my fingers.

>

> I had read in a book by Mr. Dhamija, that there are some 10

different

> ways whereby the Neechbhang takes place. One of which is placement

of

> debilitated planet and its exlatation house in quadrants either

from

> lagana/ascendant or moon.

>

> I look forward to your comments and INVITE OTHER MEMBERS TO PLEASE

> COMMENT ON THIS.

>

> Regards

> Sanjay

>

>

> , ajith@o... wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sharma,

> >

> > There is no Neechbhang yoga. With debilitated Saturn in Aries

and

> Mars in

> > Scorpio not in a quadrant. Saturn remains debilitated. Saturn is

> ayus

> > karaka and it's placement in 8th house is generally good but

> debilitated

> > statues renders that weak. Windfall could be due more to

Jupiter's

> aspect

> > on the fifth house of speculation.

> >

> > Reg

> >

> >

> > K. Ajith

> >

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Dear Sanjay,

 

There are several conditions for Neechbhang yoga. One of which is the

kendra placement of planet which would be exalted in the debilitation sign.

This is a view held by BV Raman. In this case, if Sun is in Kendra to

Lagna, then there is neechbang yoga. Others however consider, only the

depositor of the debilitated planet is posited and in your case Mars. The

reference here should be the lagna and not the moon because if viewed from

the persepective of the moon. It has to do with saturine influences on the

mind. So if Mars was placed in Kendra to Chandra lagna, then perhaps

debilitated saturine effects pertaining to mind would be lessened.(

incidentally where is your moon placed in)

 

The conditions for Neechbang yoga are.

 

1. depositor placed in kendra from Lagna.

2. depositor is exalted in Rasi

3. debilitated planet is exalted in Navamsa

 

Next thing to remember is that Saturn rules 5th and 6th house from ur lagan

and is placed in 8th house. 6th lord in 8th house is Vipareeta Raja yoga.

So 6th house effects would most likely be strengthened. Health should

generally be good and enemies should be few. But because SAturn also rules

5th house, Bhagya sthana, that is also affected and as such both 5th and

8th rules speculation and gambling would be negatively affected. Where is

ur 8th lord and moon placed in ? Where is jupiter, Venus and mercury placed

in ? Benefic aspects could reduce the malefic impact.

Also check to see if transit Saturn is in 12th or 2nd or 8th fm natal

moon. Saturn is in Gemini currently.

Perhaps you might want to give me ur birth details.

 

Om Ganapateye Namaha

 

K. Ajith

 

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Dear K. Ajith,

Thanks for the reply. My horoscope details are as following for reading: Date of

birth: 30-07-1969 Time of birth: 10.35 a.m. (IST) Place of birth: Delhi

Cantonment 77E13, 28N39

Present Residence: Thane, Maharashtra 72E48, 19N00

House Planet Degree Ascendent : Virgo : Jupiter-8.45

2nd : Libra 3rd : Scorpio : Mars-11.25 4th :

Saggitar : 5th : Capricor : Moon-25.53 6th : Aquarius:

Rahu-28.29 7th : Pisces : 8th : Mars :

Saturn-15.05 9th

: Taurus : 10th : Gemini : Venus-2.03 11th :

Cancer : Sun-13.26 & Mercury-21.46 12th : Leo : Ketu-28.29

Please let me know if any further details are required.

Thanks

Sanjay Sharma ajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com wrote:

Dear Sanjay,There are several conditions for Neechbhang yoga. One of which is

the kendra placement of planet which would be exalted in the debilitation

sign.This is a view held by BV Raman. In this case, if Sun is in Kendra to

Lagna, then there is neechbang yoga. Others however consider, only the

depositor of the debilitated planet is posited and in your case Mars. The

reference here should be the lagna and not the moon because if viewed from the

persepective of the moon. It has to do with saturine influences on the mind. So

if Mars was placed in Kendra to Chandra lagna, then perhaps debilitated saturine

effects pertaining to mind would be lessened.(incidentally where is your moon

placed in)The conditions for Neechbang yoga are.1. depositor placed in kendra

from Lagna.2. depositor is exalted in Rasi3. debilitated planet is exalted in

NavamsaNext thing to remember is that Saturn rules 5th and 6th house from ur

lagan and is

placed in 8th house. 6th lord in 8th house is Vipareeta Raja yoga.So 6th house

effects would most likely be strengthened. Health should generally be good and

enemies should be few. But because SAturn also rules 5th house, Bhagya sthana,

that is also affected and as such both 5th and8th rules speculation and

gambling would be negatively affected. Where is ur 8th lord and moon placed in?

Where is jupiter, Venus and mercury placed in? Benefic aspects could reduce the

malefic impact.Also check to see if transit Saturn is in 12th or 2nd or 8th fm

natal moon. Saturn is in Gemini currently.Perhaps you might want to give me ur

birth details.Om Ganapateye NamahaK.

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Dear Sharma,

 

I took a look at ur chart and accordingly it says that you are working for

someone and at the same time also involved in some business. It is the

business part that is causing losses and is also affecting your work. You

should stop the business and focus on your work. Saturn is a yogacaraka in

your D10 chart and it's aspect on the 6th house is favourable. In your D1

chart Jupiter, which is the natural 5th lord is in 5th from AL. but

conjunct Ketu and aspected by Rahu. So speculation here cannot be

favourable. Have not looked at dasa period. In any case, Jupiter's transit

into Virgo in September would improve the situation significantly.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

K. Ajith

 

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Dear Ajith,

 

Thanks for prompt response. Now, as you have taken a good look at birth details,

I feel now some indepth study can be done relating that with the life

experiences.

 

I worked for someone for six months at the start of my career somewhere in 1991.

Then I started out in business (product relating to Venus). Doing reasonably

well in business. As I analyse my career, I find myself to be underachiever,

compared to my abilities and resources at hand.

 

The losses that I have booked in equity investments, so I am committed not to

invest in any type of speculative thing.

 

I try a lot but I am unable to get over my habit of indecisivness, lack of

initiative & focus. May be it is effect of Saturn's 3rd aspect on 10th house &

10th aspect on Moon in 5th house. As such Moon in capricorn is not in good

condition. Mercury in Cancer in 11th house is also not in good condition.

 

Can export/import business be tried?

 

Current Running Dasa is Ju/Ma/Ma. Saturn Mahadasa will commence from 2007.

 

What do you feel about it?? Let me know if any further information is required.

 

Regards

Sanjay

 

 

ajith wrote:

 

Dear Sharma,

 

I took a look at ur chart and accordingly it says that you are working for

someone and at the same time also involved in some business. It is the business

part that is causing losses and is also affecting your work. You

should stop the business and focus on your work. Saturn is a yogacaraka in your

D10 chart and it's aspect on the 6th house is favourable. In your D1 chart

Jupiter, which is the natural 5th lord is in 5th from AL. but conjunct Ketu and

aspected by Rahu. So speculation here cannot be

favourable. Have not looked at dasa period. In any case, Jupiter's transit into

Virgo in September would improve the situation significantly.

Hope this helps.

 

K. Ajith

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Deblitated Saturn in 6, 8 , or 12th and windfall looks very

interesting .

Did it happen with anybody? In which period?

Inder

 

-- In , ajith@o... wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sharma,

>

> I took a look at ur chart and accordingly it says that you are

working for

> someone and at the same time also involved in some business. It is

the

> business part that is causing losses and is also affecting your

work. You

> should stop the business and focus on your work. Saturn is a

yogacaraka in

> your D10 chart and it's aspect on the 6th house is favourable. In

your D1

> chart Jupiter, which is the natural 5th lord is in 5th from AL. but

> conjunct Ketu and aspected by Rahu. So speculation here cannot be

> favourable. Have not looked at dasa period. In any case, Jupiter's

transit

> into Virgo in September would improve the situation significantly.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

>

> K. Ajith

>

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My horoscope details are as following for reading:

 

Date of birth: 30-07-1969

Time of birth: 10.35 a.m. (IST)

Place of birth: Delhi Cantonment 77E13, 28N39

 

Dear Sanjay

 

As I have been told you have a Neeccha Bhanga Yoga for Shani

 

The Lord of the Uccha Rashi (Shukra) is in 10 (kendra) from Lagna. This is a

combination that cancel the debilitation of Shani and that is also bringing

prosperity. This Neeccha Bhanga is good for all aspects of the Graha except

for the karaka of health...

 

One sign of Shani in 8th is the sign of long life... but Shani in 8th is

more than that... it is a door to immortality... and is it vital to know if

one could be a young or an old immortal? Shani is your ishtadevata, ABSOLUTE

Shiva... Eternal silence...

 

When one practices yoga and has an experience of samadhi (or turiya chetana)

some relative minded person could arise with one question : "for how long

did you stay in the state of samadhi?"... but this is a question that has no

sense in term of ABSOLUTE. It is like wandering if one is more wet for

having been in the water one hour unstead of five minutes... in both case

you get completely wet )

 

Your chart is showing beautiful signs of immortality or moksha; Shani is the

Door and Ketu could be the master key to unlock this door. Ketu is Ganapati

Himself, the master of all knowledge and all possibilites, the embodiement

of the state of ritambhara pragya that holds the rains for any coordination

between silence and dynamism, between Shiva and Vishnu. He is the gap

between Absolute and Relative... He is a Gap and from this point emerge the

infinity of all possibilities; the fullfilment of Ved, in Yog He is the

Perfection; the practice of siddhis...

 

Your Chandra is strong and vital and "born" under the Nakshatra blessed by

the eight Vasus Givers of "Abundance and fame" and your Surya is "born"

under the Nakshatra of "Spiritual Warrior" who sets His forces into motion

when your Lagna is "born" under the Nakshatra that is the "Hand giving

blessing to humanity" whose primary motivation is Moksha.

 

Now what do we want to choose? Mortality or Immortality... But the question

is do you really have a choice? )

 

Best Regards

 

Jean

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sanjay,

 

> Thanks for helping me through a very introspective reading. As rightly

> indicated by you I am very much inclined towards spirituality.

 

It will come maybe as a surprise but we are all inclined to spirituality )

The Human family is nothing but children of all pervading, all bliss and

Absolute Godly Father. We are all claiming our natural Divine heritage in

this life on Mother Earth... The "little problem" is due to the Nature of

Chandas and its tremendous binding influence. And funnily enough this

spirituality is expressing through our desires to want more and more of

Life... more energy, more joy, more success, more intelligence, more money

etc... The solution is not to desire less but to not be bound by the result

of these desires )

 

> Whenever alone, I stand infront of mirror, a question pops up in my mind: who

> is the person in the mirror. On one side I have these spiritual thoughts but

> on the other I get too much of sexual thoughts also. What could be the reason

> for this??

 

Sexual desire is not bad! Here again the binding influence is tremendous and

has tendency to "enslave" us deeply. The experience of sexuality is what is

the closest to Turiya Chetana (transcendental consciousness) on the field of

matter, this mean that it is the Most Charming experience.

 

As human we have cultivated this urge for thousand and thousand of years as

the natural acte of humanity to expend and enjoy... The "maya" aspect of

creation is born from Parvati's "RAPTURE" from Her "Sexual" Union with

Shiva... Rapture means losing contact with Herself... and this is the

experience we have to regain, deeper and deeper contact with ourSelf.

"IDEALLY" Brahmacharia doesn't mean "no sex" but full SELFsufficency...

established in the Self.

 

Your Self or Surya is still wandering whether you choose hidden idealistic

sides or Self-centered motivations. Your 12th Lord is the Lord of Freedom

from worldly binding... This freedom can come from constructive (spiritual)

or destructive ways... This is the Lord of Loss that can come either through

transcendence or from excess. To help you in this choice, Mangal, as the

Lord of 3 and 8, is your "Sword" awaiting for the Transmutation of the

nature of desire or motivation.

 

> On the question of immortality. I am in total double mind. Sometimes I feel

> our bodies are like any other machine and due to some malfunction (like in any

> other machine) we die. Other thought is of continuation of journey of Atma by

> death & rebirth. As destruction is of this mortal body.

 

Human body is a BEAUTIFUL "machine"... a divine machine. As the christian

say "Man is made at the image of God". The Human Nervous System is the only

one that has the ability to fully reflect Pure Consciousness in the Grossest

field of life... This is spirituality... Pure Consciousness is Brahm,

Relative field of life is Brahm, this is fullness of Life, 100% of Absolute

and 100% of Relative. Not that the body should be thrown away after use.

This body of yours is an altar where the Divine should Reign Fully... Even

spiritual creatures like angels will have to get one sometimes ) This is

the most precious gift you can get.

 

Then when the Divine will be fully reflected in Humanity as a Whole, this

Body will be the field of all possibilities and the Divine Transformation

will make this body... whatknows... )

 

> You said neech bhanga in my case brings prosperity. I had a positive Ju/Sa

> mahadasa in materialistic terms. Then should I expect a very good Saturn

> mahadasha also?

> Do you also see a vipreet raja yoga due to placement of 6th lord Saturn in 8th

> house? What this signifies?

 

Let say that I am completly stupid (heu... just for this exemple ) and I

ask to an archer to send his arrow as far as possible towards a specific

tree. But unstead of pushing the arrow, the archer is pulling it back in the

complete opposite direction so I tell him "No! not that way!, this way,

toward the tree!"... I told you I was stupid...

 

Life is made out of cycles... one time for this, one time for that...

everything taking place at the right time. Aspects of Guru or aspects of

Shani should not be considered as something foreing to ourselves, they ARE

ourselves. Our own tendencies, our own qualities, our own life is made out

of the wholeness of the nine Grahas.

 

We all have this aspect (Guru) to expand our consciousness, our mind, our

"cercle" of influence, our mastery over things, our fame, our experience of

abundance, wealth and money...

We also have these aspects (Shani) of turning back to ourselves, being more

introspective, slowing down, being more concentrated on aspects of our Self

that are less egocentric, little more of an universal nature.

For you, Shani has, being the Lord of 5 (spiritual practices) and 6 (work

and service), some beautiful aspects of Karma Yoga.

 

The aspects of Shani seems contradictory, even sometimes completely

opposite, to those of Guru the same way that it seems contradictory for an

archer to pull his arrow back before sending his arrow in the opposite

direction. But in doing so, the archer is charging his arrow with huge

amount of virtual, potential energy... for the arrow to reach its goal with

maximum efficiency.

 

One step after the other... but both are vital for a perfect and fruitful

action. As the Lord said in the Gita:

 

First, "Nistrai-gunyo bhava Arjuna"

(Bhagavad-Gitaa, 2.45)

Be without the 3 gunas Arjuna

 

Second, "Yogastha kuru karmani"

(Bhagavad-Gitaa, 2.48)

Established in Yoga, perform actions

 

Shani requires every human being to Dive deep within, to experience Pure

Consciousness, soaking the mind with Infinite Intelligence and Infinite

Energy, blessing it with the support of all the Laws of Nature (Devatas).

 

Then Guru will requires the mind to plunge into fruitfull actions and bless

relative Life with harmonious thoughts, efficient and nourishing actions

free from the binding influence of Chandas and extremely blissful

fulfilment. Such is an action that is a blessing to Life, such is an action

that is a jewel for the world... Pure Consciousness on the move...

 

Deep Meditation and Action, deep meditation and action... this is the

Glorious routine of the Day, the Glorious routine of Life, the song of

Invincibility, the perfect "Immune System".

 

I am sure you were expecting a short and direct answer but I am quite

mischievous )

 

> But living in this world during kaliyuga one must succeed materially also.

> Today I am doing reasonably well. But I want to know from you, when will I get

> so much financial stability that I will be free to pursue spirituality and

> social work in totality.

 

It's not that you should be prosperous to engage in spiritual life and

social work... Only spiritual life will make you Prosperous...

 

Do not think that spiritual life has nothing to do with relative life...

Spirituality is both, harmoniously integrated. Spirituality is certainly not

only for recluse... Far from that!...I would say that spirituality is

completely in the hands of Householders as they are more in a position to

embrace Fullness of Life... or Krishna made a big mistake in giving complete

Knowledge of Moksha to Arjuna... Yes you know, I made a casting but Arjuna

was the only one available at that time... Nop, not a chance for mistake )

 

Best regards Sanjay

 

Jean