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Intuition is not always a very dramatic, in your face kind of

information perception. More often than not, particularly in matters

of lesser personal significance, it can be quite subtle and 'weak'

as inner voices go. It can be cultivated as those have done so,

tell. It can help, certainly, particularly when one is faced with a

large matrix of possible astroindicators and combinations and the

option lies between staying confused or picking a lamp that will

lead through the dark corridor of someone else's karma without

setting the place on fire!

 

 

This does not mean most of us can do away with the logic in

astrologic and become trikalagnas just armed with intuition!

 

My 2 cents

 

 

RR

 

 

, "raghuvenkataj"

<raghuvenkataj> wrote:

> Gentlemen,

>

> Is Intuition necessary qualification for an Astrologer???

>

> Regards,

> Raghu.

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Dear Raghu,

 

If I am allowed to muse ... "Intution is not a

necessary but sufficient condition to try and be an

astrologer provided your interest is genuine" ... :)

 

Most of the astrologers who claim to have intution

actually draw from their experiences of having seen

many charts (probably thousands) ... some may

genuinely be gifted with intution and such people dont

actually need astrology to do the needful !!

 

In any case both intution as well as astrology can be

learnt wtih sufficient disciplin and application of

the mind !

 

 

--- raghuvenkataj <raghuvenkataj wrote:

> Gentlemen,

>

> Is Intuition necessary qualification for an

> Astrologer???

>

> Regards,

> Raghu.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Surya:

 

This reminds me of playing chess. There is something

called "pattern recognition." After perhaps thousands

and thousands of games a player develops the ability

to know what move to make just by looking at a

position. Some call this being intuitive but in

reality is just the computer in our brain searching

from its database to find the move that is applicable.

Perhaps in a way this might be true of what you just

describe below.

 

Jose

 

 

--- surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv

wrote:

> Dear Raghu,

>

> If I am allowed to muse ... "Intution is not a

> necessary but sufficient condition to try and be an

> astrologer provided your interest is genuine" ... :)

>

>

> Most of the astrologers who claim to have intution

> actually draw from their experiences of having seen

> many charts (probably thousands) ... some may

> genuinely be gifted with intution and such people

> dont

> actually need astrology to do the needful !!

>

> In any case both intution as well as astrology can

> be

> learnt wtih sufficient disciplin and application of

> the mind !

>

>

> --- raghuvenkataj <raghuvenkataj wrote:

> > Gentlemen,

> >

> > Is Intuition necessary qualification for an

> > Astrologer???

> >

> > Regards,

> > Raghu.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Jose,

 

You are right Jose, that was what I was trying to say

.... there is a thin line between intution and Gut

feeling .. many confuse Gut feeling for intution ..

and gut feeling often draws from repeated experiences

...

 

 

 

 

--- Jose Rosa <master4114 wrote:

> Dear Surya:

>

> This reminds me of playing chess. There is something

> called "pattern recognition." After perhaps

> thousands

> and thousands of games a player develops the ability

> to know what move to make just by looking at a

> position. Some call this being intuitive but in

> reality is just the computer in our brain searching

> from its database to find the move that is

> applicable.

> Perhaps in a way this might be true of what you just

> describe below.

>

> Jose

>

>

> --- surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv

> wrote:

> > Dear Raghu,

> >

> > If I am allowed to muse ... "Intution is not a

> > necessary but sufficient condition to try and be

> an

> > astrologer provided your interest is genuine" ...

> :)

> >

> >

> > Most of the astrologers who claim to have intution

> > actually draw from their experiences of having

> seen

> > many charts (probably thousands) ... some may

> > genuinely be gifted with intution and such people

> > dont

> > actually need astrology to do the needful !!

> >

> > In any case both intution as well as astrology can

> > be

> > learnt wtih sufficient disciplin and application

> of

> > the mind !

> >

> >

> > --- raghuvenkataj <raghuvenkataj wrote:

> > > Gentlemen,

> > >

> > > Is Intuition necessary qualification for an

> > > Astrologer???

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Raghu.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger.

> > http://messenger./

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger.

> http://messenger./

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello everybody,

 

Intuition...Well, no second thoughts about it. It is the same entity

that made Ashwini Kumars the celestial doctors, same one that made

Madri putra Nakul a great mathematician, the same planet that made

Paramhansa namashya, same one that each and every doctor must have

well-placed (along with Mars), same one that is needed for a great

astrologer...eternal Ketu.

 

Astrology...learning it..Mercury, preaching it ....Jupiter

 

Must catch up with the next class..

Bye for now,

Padma

 

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Dear Jose,

>

> You are right Jose, that was what I was trying to say

> ... there is a thin line between intution and Gut

> feeling .. many confuse Gut feeling for intution ..

> and gut feeling often draws from repeated experiences

> ..

>

>

>

>

> --- Jose Rosa <master4114> wrote:

> > Dear Surya:

> >

> > This reminds me of playing chess. There is something

> > called "pattern recognition." After perhaps

> > thousands

> > and thousands of games a player develops the ability

> > to know what move to make just by looking at a

> > position. Some call this being intuitive but in

> > reality is just the computer in our brain searching

> > from its database to find the move that is

> > applicable.

> > Perhaps in a way this might be true of what you just

> > describe below.

> >

> > Jose

> >

> >

> > --- surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Raghu,

> > >

> > > If I am allowed to muse ... "Intution is not a

> > > necessary but sufficient condition to try and be

> > an

> > > astrologer provided your interest is genuine" ...

> > :)

> > >

> > >

> > > Most of the astrologers who claim to have intution

> > > actually draw from their experiences of having

> > seen

> > > many charts (probably thousands) ... some may

> > > genuinely be gifted with intution and such people

> > > dont

> > > actually need astrology to do the needful !!

> > >

> > > In any case both intution as well as astrology can

> > > be

> > > learnt wtih sufficient disciplin and application

> > of

> > > the mind !

> > >

> > >

> > > --- raghuvenkataj <raghuvenkataj> wrote:

> > > > Gentlemen,

> > > >

> > > > Is Intuition necessary qualification for an

> > > > Astrologer???

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Raghu.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger.

> > > http://messenger./

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger.

> > http://messenger./

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Intuition represents, I submit to this august group, a spectrum of

knowing. It is like the extreme end of the electromagnetic spectrum

(as an analogy) which straddles visible light (aware, conscious

knowing). The 'invisible' energies (UV/IR) can be used to illuminate

appropriate bodies (such as UV can induce fluorescence and make some

kinds of chemicals, proteins and fungus become visible where they

were invisible under normal visible light, and IR can when imaged

using a sensitive IR film show a picture slightly deeper than skin --

so that a person who appears clean-shaven will on an IR picture

show a 2 day old stubble.

 

Intuition is probably a faster form of knowing and all intuition are

not the same. Gut-feeling is a personal, awareness and often

requires that the recipient be involved and engaged in something. It

sometimes shows up as 'having slept over a problem'. There is often

a strong emotional bond too, like the intuition of a mother or of a

relative. Some of these could be the result of a fast process going

on in the multitasking brain that is sifting through a lot of

information and perhaps some of the pattern matching may fall in

this category, although pattern matching needs prior learning and

knowledge and the pattern (sun is in the star of the atmakaraka that

is flanked by malefics, ergo ...) sometimes have a logical link.

 

Pure intuitive knowing would come as a flash to someone who did not

train in the area (though this becomes difficult to pin down or

factor out if we believe in multiple births and that at some level

the learned information is stored, not readily accessible but

potentially there and can break through at times.

 

Astrologers who use such pragna, and psychics too experience an

interesting form of intuitive knowledge which comes to them without

their being emotionally or otherwise involved with the querrent or

the querry. However, there is really no good documentation of how

often this happens and with what efficacy etc.

 

Someone very intuitive and psychic would be very sensitive to

Heisenbergian influence/phenomena during testing and that poses its

own unique challenges in testing this kind of ability. The good

quality sample is hard to find, for starters!

 

Classics and contemporary texts tend to peg these abilities to

planets or specific signs etc., but given the variations that abound

in jyotish it becomes difficult if not impossible to pin these down

without a lot of dry discussion using examples etc. Even where

charts and examples exist, time often becomes a precious rare thing

to engage in same.

 

RR

 

 

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Dear Jose,

>

> You are right Jose, that was what I was trying to say

> ... there is a thin line between intution and Gut

> feeling .. many confuse Gut feeling for intution ..

> and gut feeling often draws from repeated experiences

> ..

>

>

>

>

> --- Jose Rosa <master4114> wrote:

> > Dear Surya:

> >

> > This reminds me of playing chess. There is something

> > called "pattern recognition." After perhaps

> > thousands

> > and thousands of games a player develops the ability

> > to know what move to make just by looking at a

> > position. Some call this being intuitive but in

> > reality is just the computer in our brain searching

> > from its database to find the move that is

> > applicable.

> > Perhaps in a way this might be true of what you just

> > describe below.

> >

> > Jose

> >

> >

> > --- surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Raghu,

> > >

> > > If I am allowed to muse ... "Intution is not a

> > > necessary but sufficient condition to try and be

> > an

> > > astrologer provided your interest is genuine" ...

> > :)

> > >

> > >

> > > Most of the astrologers who claim to have intution

> > > actually draw from their experiences of having

> > seen

> > > many charts (probably thousands) ... some may

> > > genuinely be gifted with intution and such people

> > > dont

> > > actually need astrology to do the needful !!

> > >

> > > In any case both intution as well as astrology can

> > > be

> > > learnt wtih sufficient disciplin and application

> > of

> > > the mind !

> > >

> > >

> > > --- raghuvenkataj <raghuvenkataj> wrote:

> > > > Gentlemen,

> > > >

> > > > Is Intuition necessary qualification for an

> > > > Astrologer???

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Raghu.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger.

> > > http://messenger./

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger.

> > http://messenger./

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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In a properly done reading, unlike what happens on most lists and

message boards, even if one were allowed to become a fly on the wall

(with the consent of the jyotishi and client, of course!), there is

a blend of the technical (pattern recognition and analysis etc), the

synthetic (information gained from the technical stream of the

process blended with experience and perhaps more) and the intuitive

sometimes becomes obvious. It is hard to document and pin down

though in that complete process. When we examine a chart here or in

similar settings we are probably working more as technicians. But

even when we describe the combinations etc that lead to a

conclusion, can we always give the full picture, can we capture all

the logical trains that are running as we see the chart then recall

and capture. Some can do this very well, an example being Marc

Boney, a California based astrologer, psychologist and a teacher in

Deepak Chopra's institution (I could be wrong about that affiliation

of his). His case studies I recall were very detailed, very logical

and a pleasure to read -- textbook astrology as he calls those!

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Dear Raghu,

>

> If I am allowed to muse ... "Intution is not a

> necessary but sufficient condition to try and be an

> astrologer provided your interest is genuine" ... :)

>

> Most of the astrologers who claim to have intution

> actually draw from their experiences of having seen

> many charts (probably thousands) ... some may

> genuinely be gifted with intution and such people dont

> actually need astrology to do the needful !!

>

> In any case both intution as well as astrology can be

> learnt wtih sufficient disciplin and application of

> the mind !

>

>

> --- raghuvenkataj <raghuvenkataj> wrote:

> > Gentlemen,

> >

> > Is Intuition necessary qualification for an

> > Astrologer???

> >

> > Regards,

> > Raghu.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear RR,

 

As I see it, human being is too complex to be reduced

just to a set of 9 planets ... also often horoscopes

seem to be showing sooo many contradicting sides of

the same person ... My personal opinion is that as

human being we all have all kinds of

feelings/tendencies (I wouldnt believe evolution would

like it any other way) ... we all have the same

anger/lust/greed/piousness etc etc ... planets are

indicative of which of these are predominant in us at

any given time ... so obviously it is impossible to

pin point which tendency overall dominates unless the

fundamentals of astrolgoy are firmly placed in the

mind of the person looking at the horoscope ...

 

The key is maybe to look at the 9 planets, 12 zodiac

and the 12 houses to extrapolate the possible

tendencies and then deduct possbile course of action

.... In this sense ... I sometimes have a distaste for

gemstone remedies (mind you I am wearing a pearl for

my moon dasa!) without an understanding our own

tendencies (as shown by the stars -- sometimes we are

so blind to our own flaws !) and trying to modify them

.... I believe every astrologer who perscribes a mantra

or a gem stone should tell his client what are the

tendencies that a person shows to the world which are

generally percieved as wrong and should be curbed ..

to complete the remedy prescribed ... anything short

of this is just money swindling process which both

robs the credibility of the astrology community as

well as the remedies band !

 

 

 

--- rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

> In a properly done reading, unlike what happens on

> most lists and

> message boards, even if one were allowed to become a

> fly on the wall

> (with the consent of the jyotishi and client, of

> course!), there is

> a blend of the technical (pattern recognition and

> analysis etc), the

> synthetic (information gained from the technical

> stream of the

> process blended with experience and perhaps more)

> and the intuitive

> sometimes becomes obvious. It is hard to document

> and pin down

> though in that complete process. When we examine a

> chart here or in

> similar settings we are probably working more as

> technicians. But

> even when we describe the combinations etc that lead

> to a

> conclusion, can we always give the full picture, can

> we capture all

> the logical trains that are running as we see the

> chart then recall

> and capture. Some can do this very well, an example

> being Marc

> Boney, a California based astrologer, psychologist

> and a teacher in

> Deepak Chopra's institution (I could be wrong about

> that affiliation

> of his). His case studies I recall were very

> detailed, very logical

> and a pleasure to read -- textbook astrology as he

> calls those!

>

> , surya

> vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Dear Raghu,

> >

> > If I am allowed to muse ... "Intution is not a

> > necessary but sufficient condition to try and be

> an

> > astrologer provided your interest is genuine" ...

> :)

> >

> > Most of the astrologers who claim to have intution

> > actually draw from their experiences of having

> seen

> > many charts (probably thousands) ... some may

> > genuinely be gifted with intution and such people

> dont

> > actually need astrology to do the needful !!

> >

> > In any case both intution as well as astrology can

> be

> > learnt wtih sufficient disciplin and application

> of

> > the mind !

> >

> >

> > --- raghuvenkataj <raghuvenkataj> wrote:

> > > Gentlemen,

> > >

> > > Is Intuition necessary qualification for an

> > > Astrologer???

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Raghu.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger.

> > http://messenger./

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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