Faith and Remedies : To Sri RR and Manju

July 15, 2004

Dear Tatvam-asi sir & RR sir,

WE are all thankful to you for the truly enriching experiences

As tatvam asi once wrote to me.. the power of a word & sound have tremendous

effect.

RR's words as Didi wrote is in-comparable in his own ways. His style is

in-imitable.

The different attitudes & styles of writing is another added attraction.

We Love it.

Looking forward to many more such great notes from all of you.

Yes, one thread which went un-answered is the efficacy of Yantras, Mantras,

Gemstones or others like Rudraksh

towards specific nativities... guess this is un-explored territory as of now.

sincere respects,

Manju

tatvam asi [om_tatsat_om]

Friday, July 16, 2004 8:44 AM

Re: Re: Faith and Remedies : To Sri RR and Manju

Dear Manju,

Tatvam_Asi has been following the whole discussion off and on.

It is just that presently the attention of the undersigned is focussed on other

topics in medical astrology.

Would love to put some experiences on board at a later date.

Till then Sri RR's cannons have covered almost everything (LOL)

Got to learn many a thing from him.

Tatvam-Asi

rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

Dhanyavaad! I hope we did not make too much noise and did not

pollute the atmosphere as much as real guns do ;-)

And, hopefully no one got killed other than that desirable victim

that I for one, love to go out after: Innocent naivity!

RR

, "Manjunath, T \(MED\)"

wrote:

> What a truly wonderful discussion we've had,

> there are many pearls of wisdom hiding behind many of what got

wrote.

>

> The big feature was All the Big Guns fired.. RR, Tanvir, Inder,

Gaurav, Surya, Balaji & Didi.

>

> Manoshi ofcourse revels in bringing out such great

topics. "Special Thanks Manoshi".

> WE NEED YOU, else the kind of participation we have with 1700+

> people is a bit under-leveraged !! ( yah, understatement, just ask

RR)

>

> Oh Yes,.. we 'Really' Missed inputs from Tatvam-Asi, Yves,

SriGanesh, G Kumar, Sanjeev Bhaiya & Balaji.

> wish we had more from the sobering Gaurav & Didi. RR of course is

a classic, and i spend 2 nights

> reading the post several times.

>

> Reproduced below are some Gems we can reflect on time & again, (

kind of a over-lap with the Shukra appeasment thread, but worth

reproducing)

>

> * Devotion must come from faith and not a more transient wishful

thinking. ( RR )

>

> * Faith, in my mind, comes with a healthy dose of humility. Rest

assured that there is a higher power that knows

> what you need and when you need it, better than yourself, and that

higher power WILL make that happen at the right time.

>

> This does not in any way excuse YOU from making the effort,

though! You are responsible for the effort, and That which is beyond

you is reponsible for the result. (Didi)

>

> * Karma comes first, God comes next. (Inder)

>

> * My personal belief is that destiny is not a track cut in granite

of time through which human lives MUST flow with the slope

determined by karma (worse the karma, steeper the slope of fall).

There are also footholds of dharma, grace, remedies available and

some of these are not fixed in the river bed either because some of

these are branches that we

> can > cling to before we enter the mouth of the waterfall (a

seriously predestined karmic situation).

>

> * Life is not about slow metamorphosis, but also about Action --

ACTION & FREEDOM to Choose,

> which is not arrogance but the realization that when God made us,

His Divine hands touched ours and perhaps

> the touch left on ours a divine responsibility, to exercise our

divine birthright, of choosing and acting. (RR)

>

> * We do not do remedies from our own. But, the divinity makes us

do these.

> The truth is CONSTANT and will be same to everyone ( Tavir )

>

> * To me there are two main factors, first is knowledge and second

being experience.

> Experience comes into picture when we follow a remedy and there is

a good(or bad) effect. The bad

> effect experience informs that there is something wrong(maybe the

prouncation or maybe the proper method). (Gaurav)

>

> There was one other sentence which Didi wrote on FreeWill which is

simply superb, but i dont know where i put it. :-(

>

> My sincere respects to all.

>

> thank you,

>

> Manju

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July 15, 2004

Dear manju,

The discussion is very good and I followed it but somehow my views

are sketchy and different so i want to correlate with the views

expressed here but not able to do so as i am preoccupied with our

budget 2004 since there are so many proposals of taxation and finance

which still requires more reading like usage of words, context,

intention and intrepretations and submission of memoranda of

suggestions with finance ministry. Once i finish with that....i will

definitely revive this topic and will post my views...hope it will be

in tune with whatever the giants said...

sriganeshh

, tatvam asi

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> Dear Manju,

> Tatvam_Asi has been following the whole discussion off and on.

> It is just that presently the attention of the undersigned is

focussed on other topics in medical astrology.

> Would love to put some experiences on board at a later date.

> Till then Sri RR's cannons have covered almost everything (LOL)

> Got to learn many a thing from him.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> Dhanyavaad! I hope we did not make too much noise and did not

> pollute the atmosphere as much as real guns do ;-)

>

> And, hopefully no one got killed other than that desirable victim

> that I for one, love to go out after: Innocent naivity!

>

> RR

>

> , "Manjunath, T \(MED\)"

> wrote:

> > What a truly wonderful discussion we've had,

> > there are many pearls of wisdom hiding behind many of what got

> wrote.

> >

> > The big feature was All the Big Guns fired.. RR, Tanvir, Inder,

> Gaurav, Surya, Balaji & Didi.

> >

> > Manoshi ofcourse revels in bringing out such great

> topics. "Special Thanks Manoshi".

> > WE NEED YOU, else the kind of participation we have with 1700+

> > people is a bit under-leveraged !! ( yah, understatement, just

ask

> RR)

> >

> > Oh Yes,.. we 'Really' Missed inputs from Tatvam-Asi, Yves,

> SriGanesh, G Kumar, Sanjeev Bhaiya & Balaji.

> > wish we had more from the sobering Gaurav & Didi. RR of course is

> a classic, and i spend 2 nights

> > reading the post several times.

> >

> > Reproduced below are some Gems we can reflect on time & again, (

> kind of a over-lap with the Shukra appeasment thread, but worth

> reproducing)

> >

> > * Devotion must come from faith and not a more transient wishful

> thinking. ( RR )

> >

> > * Faith, in my mind, comes with a healthy dose of humility. Rest

> assured that there is a higher power that knows

> > what you need and when you need it, better than yourself, and

that

> higher power WILL make that happen at the right time.

> >

> > This does not in any way excuse YOU from making the effort,

> though! You are responsible for the effort, and That which is

beyond

> you is reponsible for the result. (Didi)

> >

> > * Karma comes first, God comes next. (Inder)

> >

> > * My personal belief is that destiny is not a track cut in

granite

> of time through which human lives MUST flow with the slope

> determined by karma (worse the karma, steeper the slope of fall).

> There are also footholds of dharma, grace, remedies available and

> some of these are not fixed in the river bed either because some of

> these are branches that we

> > can > cling to before we enter the mouth of the waterfall (a

> seriously predestined karmic situation).

> >

> > * Life is not about slow metamorphosis, but also about Action --

> ACTION & FREEDOM to Choose,

> > which is not arrogance but the realization that when God made us,

> His Divine hands touched ours and perhaps

> > the touch left on ours a divine responsibility, to exercise our

> divine birthright, of choosing and acting. (RR)

> >

> > * We do not do remedies from our own. But, the divinity makes us

> do these.

> > The truth is CONSTANT and will be same to everyone ( Tavir )

> >

> > * To me there are two main factors, first is knowledge and second

> being experience.

> > Experience comes into picture when we follow a remedy and there

is

> a good(or bad) effect. The bad

> > effect experience informs that there is something wrong(maybe the

> prouncation or maybe the proper method). (Gaurav)

> >

> > There was one other sentence which Didi wrote on FreeWill which

is

> simply superb, but i dont know where i put it. :-(

> >

> > My sincere respects to all.

> >

> > thank you,

> >

> > Manju

>

> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

> Links

>

> Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard.

>

July 15, 2004

Dearest Ganesh, hope you are doing fine.

Please ! we are eager for your thoughts & participation.

have a great day

sincere rgds

Manju

sriganeshh [sriganeshh]

Friday, July 16, 2004 10:44 AM

Re: Faith and Remedies : To Sri RR and Manju