Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Although you stated that my suggestion to study this in a few charts was impractical -- I disagree :-) I have no problems with or aversion towards free-associations in the process of figuring out, but charts keep us somewhat on track and the danger of going out too far afield is reduced. Ultimately, the purpose of the figuring out would be to apply in charts during analysis, so why not start with those even while free-associating. But to each his own devices and preferences. Everything is information in a sense, so stress too probably can be seen as information; however it is information that comes to us through the emotional intelligence or emotional channel hence should be looked at as a feeling (bad feeling actually ranging from nervousness to deep paralysing fear in the susceptible). Mercury is probably the channel of linear, logical information one can say while moon is the other channel of perception, the emotional/affective channel. Stress primarily affects the consciousness or awareness as a change in feeling (could be mental or may be perceived as headache, indigestion, and other means). Stress is often not felt as such because of mental defenses such as repression, denial etc. and surfaces as symptoms of feeling and sensations, etc. Hence the strength of moon as a good protection against stress makes sense. The second defense of intellectualization, understanding the cause of stress etc would be mercury's domain but that comes later -- after the irrational feelings die down or are controlled. RR , "Inder" <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear friends, > Moon is mind. Mercury is intellect. > Problems of Moon could be agony, depression,meloncoly, grief etc. > Our good friend Saturn can give you as much misery, agony, > meloncolia etc as you like. > But this is not nervousness or stress. > Similarly Jupiter can give Moon ecstasy, joy, happiness, hope etc, > but some times with these so called positive emotions also one can > get stressed/nervous. Like, I may have promotion orders in my hand > but feeling nervous as well as joyful. > Therefore Stres as an information should be governed by Mercury. > Inder > > - In , "Manoshi Chatterjee" > <khallopapa> wrote: > > Dear Rajat, > > > > You said exactly what I was looking for. > > > > Thanx > > Manoshi > > > > , "Rajat Bhatia" > > <bentleyclothing> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Single most important factor that decides to the amount of > stress > > that we can feel is the Strength or Weekness of Moon. > > > > > > Moon is Mana and all stress, fatigue is mostly on the level of > > mind. > > > > > > A Moon that is Paksha Bali, well placed, ruling good houses and > > without excessive influence of Saturn[depression], Mars[anger] and > > Rahu[fear] is like a strong friend that help us in overcoming > > stress, negativity by making us positive and optimistic. > > > > > > Lord Krishna calls this kind of Moon/Mind our Best Friend and if > > it is week, it is our worst enemy. > > > > > > Other important factors that may be looked for pschological > > strength of a native are: > > > > > > 1.Asc & its lord > > > 2.Mercury for basic mentality and intellect > > > 3.Fourth house of heart and emotional nature[manas]. > > > 4.Fifth house for Budhi with Jupiter for judgement & intelligence > > > 5.Ninth house with Sun for inner soul strength > > > > > > The writings quoted in Inder's mail could be interpreted thus : > > > > > > Its hinting at a technique of meditation wherein we have not to > > stop or control our thoughts but by being a witness/saakshi, we > can > > overcome them and reach a higher consciousness. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Rajat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Gaurav Sharma" > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > You can just call me Gaurav no need to add "ji". > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > Gaurav ji has given very good analysis. > > > > > Rohiniji tells us to analyse several charts to come to some > > > > > conclusion. I think it may not be practical to find out > > stressed > > > > > persons for astro analysis. > > > > > Stress and strain ,in engineering,are two different but > > related > > > > > words. > > > > > If we subject some body/material/structure to some outside > > force, > > > > it > > > > > will cause stress to that material. This stress will cause > > some > > > > > deformation in the material to cope up with the stress. This > > > > > deformation is called strain. A brittle material say chalk > > stick if > > > > > stressed will break immediately as it is not straining but > > other > > > > > materials will strain to survive. > > > > > Rohiniji and Garauvji conclude that we can not > > assign 'stress' to > > > > > any one planet.Now how I am thinking it is like this: > > > > > > > > > > If we are in stressful condition, we can get relief by > several > > > > means. > > > > > Rational thinking,--the persons who have right thinking [ > good > > > > > positioning of Mercury in chart] can rationalise the > > situation, and > > > > > reduce the stress. > > > > > Some benevolent help from outside [in chart good aspects to > > > > > Mercury?] may help situation. > > > > > Meditation-- here you suspend all the thinking [very > difficult > > > > > offcource], concentrate on your body, head or breathing etc, > > it > > > > > would help. Here functions of Mercury planet is suspended. > > Zero > > > > > thinking. > > > > > Tao flow-- let the situation flow, dont strain nervous > system > > [ > > > > > Mercury] > > > > > Go to psychic/dreamy/emotinal word { although Mercury is not > > > > > comfortable in such word of Pisces rasi} and get lost > > temporarily > > > > or > > > > > for longer duration. > > > > > > > > > > As we see above in all these situations Mercury is the sole > > planet > > > > > which is assigned with stress related phenomena. Other > > > > > planets /conditions can either cause stress or help to > reduce > > > > stress. > > > > > > > > > > And lastly if stress is information then information means > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > Can we add something more here? friends! > > > > > Some loopholes in this thinking? > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > I will break the answer in the few parts. Lets us analyze > > them > > > > one > > > > > by > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > - Stress is an information > > > > > > > > > > > > A medical info first before we induldge in astro aspect. > The > > > > > hormone > > > > > > cortisol, secreted by the adrenal glands, is often called > > > > > the "stress > > > > > > hormone" because its levels rise following physical and > > emotional > > > > > > stress. Abnormal blood cortisol levels can result in > > metabolic > > > > > > disturbances and in severe cases may lead to life- > > threatening > > > > > > illnesses. Now the main thing here is that this hormone is > > more > > > > > than > > > > > > a simple marker of stress levels- it is necessary for the > > > > > functioning > > > > > > of almost every part of the body. Excesses or deficiencies > > of > > > > this > > > > > > crucial hormone are also lead to various physical symptoms > > and > > > > > > disease states. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the astro aspect, Stress is indeed an > > information. > > > > > It > > > > > > can be found to be co-related to the so called bad phases > in > > > > life. > > > > > > Now this stress is information in a sense meaning that > > something > > > > > is > > > > > > wrong or something is not on track. Hence we tend to think > a > > lot > > > > > in > > > > > > such times, the reasons can be anything and so do effects > of > > it > > > > (be > > > > > it > > > > > > emotional or physical). > > > > > > > > > > > > -Use it > > > > > > > > > > > > We all have different capabilites and capacities. An > > explaination > > > > > to > > > > > > using stress could pertain to self healing(which varies > from > > > > > person > > > > > > to person). The advantage of using it lies in the fact > that > > if we > > > > > are > > > > > > able to come out of it, we are stronger in the long run or > > else > > > > > vice > > > > > > versa will happen and stress will emerge to be stronger in > > future > > > > > > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > > > > > This relates us to an important aspect- "everything in > life > > has > > > > > > opposites". Once we try to define the stress it may seem > > > > extremely > > > > > > harmful(when in excess). Now the main point here is that > we > > > > should > > > > > > see the other face of the coin also. Stress is also termed > > as > > > > > > misplaced effort and hence by listening to it we are doing > > things > > > > > in > > > > > > a different manner. Also by not blocking it we are > evolving > > us > > > > > into a > > > > > > world were we know that some bad time is going on but > still > > the > > > > > > efforts are in positive direction. Hence the hidden > meaning > > is > > > > > self > > > > > > realization which is equally important in any kind of > > scenario. > > > > > Until > > > > > > and unless we do a reality check we will be living in a > > world of > > > > > make > > > > > > belief(stressed out) > > > > > > > > > > > > -It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > just > > get > > > > > > louder and bigger > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here we need to understand an important concept of > > Energy. > > > > > Stress > > > > > > takes away the energy needed for healing. Indeed strange > but > > a > > > > > small > > > > > > example would be a case where a person doesnt realize he > is > > > > > stressed > > > > > > out and leads into one problem after another. Remember > many > > times > > > > > we > > > > > > are angry towards someone but our anger reflect in every > > thing > > > > > that > > > > > > we do and even onto those also who are innocent with this > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > -How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the most difficult question. Can stress really do > > help us? > > > > > The > > > > > > answer will be yes but once it is at normal levels. > Remember > > the > > > > > > times when are coupled with challenging situations with > > > > deadlines. > > > > > > The end result once we are finished with the assignment(on > > > > > deadline) > > > > > > is relected on individual`s personality and his day to day > > > > routine > > > > > > energy levels. But once in excess, stress can only make > you > > look > > > > > even > > > > > > more stressed out. But the positive side would be we > strive > > > > > towards > > > > > > stress relieving methods like Meditation etc but this > > depends > > > > from > > > > > > person to person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. Or Adverse > > > > > > configration/positioning of planets relative to Lagna/Moon > > in a > > > > > > native chart or during transits. Or operative periods of > > > > > > Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > It would not be correct to relate stress to any particular > > > > planet. > > > > > > There are a host of factors which needs to be taken into > > account. > > > > > The > > > > > > primary would be the Vimshottari Dasha,Aspects,Shadbala, > > Argalas > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope the above is of help to some extent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > I was reading an article which says --Stree is an > > > > > information.Use > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > just > > get > > > > > > > louder and bigger. > > > > > > > How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > Urgent,-- get recharged,--get help/support,-- go for > > > > > meditation, -- > > > > > > > work smart not hard, --etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I am thinking what it all means in astrological > terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or Adverse configration/positioning of planets relative > to > > > > > > > Lagna/Moon in a native chart or during transits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or operative periods of Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think dear friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Dear Rohini ji, Greetings. Thanks for setting confusions to rest. In just one one statement "Stress is a Feeling" you have given the essence. Mind or Manah or our Thinking Faculty is akin to Duryodhan or Dushasana (difficult to conquer)of Mahabharata and is so difficult to control and thus the whole battle(inner) of Mahabharta and the Great Message of the Gita. Mind and its associations with the world through senses is the reason of human misery and thus the lofty goal of Yoga for conquring Mind/Moon. Best Regards, Rajat , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > Although you stated that my suggestion to study this in a few > charts was impractical -- I disagree :-) > I have no problems with or aversion towards free-associations in > the process of figuring out, but charts keep us somewhat on track > and the danger of going out too far afield is reduced. Ultimately, > the purpose of the figuring out would be to apply in charts during > analysis, so why not start with those even while free-associating. > > But to each his own devices and preferences. > > Everything is information in a sense, so stress too probably can be > seen as information; however it is information that comes to us > through the emotional intelligence or emotional channel hence should > be looked at as a feeling (bad feeling actually ranging from > nervousness to deep paralysing fear in the susceptible). Mercury is > probably the channel of linear, logical information one can say while > moon is the other channel of perception, the emotional/affective > channel. Stress primarily affects the consciousness or awareness as a > change in feeling (could be mental or may be perceived as headache, > indigestion, and other means). Stress is often not felt as such > because of mental defenses such as repression, denial etc. and > surfaces as symptoms of feeling and sensations, etc. > > Hence the strength of moon as a good protection against stress makes > sense. The second defense of intellectualization, understanding the > cause of stress etc would be mercury's domain but that comes later -- > after the irrational feelings die down or are controlled. > > RR > > , "Inder" <indervohra2001> > wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Moon is mind. Mercury is intellect. > > Problems of Moon could be agony, depression,meloncoly, grief etc. > > Our good friend Saturn can give you as much misery, agony, > > meloncolia etc as you like. > > But this is not nervousness or stress. > > Similarly Jupiter can give Moon ecstasy, joy, happiness, hope etc, > > but some times with these so called positive emotions also one can > > get stressed/nervous. Like, I may have promotion orders in my hand > > but feeling nervous as well as joyful. > > Therefore Stres as an information should be governed by Mercury. > > Inder > > > > - In , "Manoshi Chatterjee" > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > Dear Rajat, > > > > > > You said exactly what I was looking for. > > > > > > Thanx > > > Manoshi > > > > > > , "Rajat Bhatia" > > > <bentleyclothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Single most important factor that decides to the amount of > > stress > > > that we can feel is the Strength or Weekness of Moon. > > > > > > > > Moon is Mana and all stress, fatigue is mostly on the level of > > > mind. > > > > > > > > A Moon that is Paksha Bali, well placed, ruling good houses and > > > without excessive influence of Saturn[depression], Mars[anger] and > > > Rahu[fear] is like a strong friend that help us in overcoming > > > stress, negativity by making us positive and optimistic. > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna calls this kind of Moon/Mind our Best Friend and if > > > it is week, it is our worst enemy. > > > > > > > > Other important factors that may be looked for pschological > > > strength of a native are: > > > > > > > > 1.Asc & its lord > > > > 2.Mercury for basic mentality and intellect > > > > 3.Fourth house of heart and emotional nature[manas]. > > > > 4.Fifth house for Budhi with Jupiter for judgement & > intelligence > > > > 5.Ninth house with Sun for inner soul strength > > > > > > > > The writings quoted in Inder's mail could be interpreted thus : > > > > > > > > Its hinting at a technique of meditation wherein we have not to > > > stop or control our thoughts but by being a witness/saakshi, we > > can > > > overcome them and reach a higher consciousness. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Rajat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > You can just call me Gaurav no need to add "ji". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Gaurav ji has given very good analysis. > > > > > > Rohiniji tells us to analyse several charts to come to some > > > > > > conclusion. I think it may not be practical to find out > > > stressed > > > > > > persons for astro analysis. > > > > > > Stress and strain ,in engineering,are two different but > > > related > > > > > > words. > > > > > > If we subject some body/material/structure to some outside > > > force, > > > > > it > > > > > > will cause stress to that material. This stress will cause > > > some > > > > > > deformation in the material to cope up with the stress. This > > > > > > deformation is called strain. A brittle material say chalk > > > stick if > > > > > > stressed will break immediately as it is not straining but > > > other > > > > > > materials will strain to survive. > > > > > > Rohiniji and Garauvji conclude that we can not > > > assign 'stress' to > > > > > > any one planet.Now how I am thinking it is like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > If we are in stressful condition, we can get relief by > > several > > > > > means. > > > > > > Rational thinking,--the persons who have right thinking [ > > good > > > > > > positioning of Mercury in chart] can rationalise the > > > situation, and > > > > > > reduce the stress. > > > > > > Some benevolent help from outside [in chart good aspects to > > > > > > Mercury?] may help situation. > > > > > > Meditation-- here you suspend all the thinking [very > > difficult > > > > > > offcource], concentrate on your body, head or breathing etc, > > > it > > > > > > would help. Here functions of Mercury planet is suspended. > > > Zero > > > > > > thinking. > > > > > > Tao flow-- let the situation flow, dont strain nervous > > system > > > [ > > > > > > Mercury] > > > > > > Go to psychic/dreamy/emotinal word { although Mercury is not > > > > > > comfortable in such word of Pisces rasi} and get lost > > > temporarily > > > > > or > > > > > > for longer duration. > > > > > > > > > > > > As we see above in all these situations Mercury is the sole > > > planet > > > > > > which is assigned with stress related phenomena. Other > > > > > > planets /conditions can either cause stress or help to > > reduce > > > > > stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > And lastly if stress is information then information means > > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we add something more here? friends! > > > > > > Some loopholes in this thinking? > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will break the answer in the few parts. Lets us analyze > > > them > > > > > one > > > > > > by > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Stress is an information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A medical info first before we induldge in astro aspect. > > The > > > > > > hormone > > > > > > > cortisol, secreted by the adrenal glands, is often called > > > > > > the "stress > > > > > > > hormone" because its levels rise following physical and > > > emotional > > > > > > > stress. Abnormal blood cortisol levels can result in > > > metabolic > > > > > > > disturbances and in severe cases may lead to life- > > > threatening > > > > > > > illnesses. Now the main thing here is that this hormone is > > > more > > > > > > than > > > > > > > a simple marker of stress levels- it is necessary for the > > > > > > functioning > > > > > > > of almost every part of the body. Excesses or deficiencies > > > of > > > > > this > > > > > > > crucial hormone are also lead to various physical symptoms > > > and > > > > > > > disease states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the astro aspect, Stress is indeed an > > > information. > > > > > > It > > > > > > > can be found to be co-related to the so called bad phases > > in > > > > > life. > > > > > > > Now this stress is information in a sense meaning that > > > something > > > > > > is > > > > > > > wrong or something is not on track. Hence we tend to think > > a > > > lot > > > > > > in > > > > > > > such times, the reasons can be anything and so do effects > > of > > > it > > > > > (be > > > > > > it > > > > > > > emotional or physical). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Use it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all have different capabilites and capacities. An > > > explaination > > > > > > to > > > > > > > using stress could pertain to self healing(which varies > > from > > > > > > person > > > > > > > to person). The advantage of using it lies in the fact > > that > > > if we > > > > > > are > > > > > > > able to come out of it, we are stronger in the long run or > > > else > > > > > > vice > > > > > > > versa will happen and stress will emerge to be stronger in > > > future > > > > > > > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This relates us to an important aspect- "everything in > > life > > > has > > > > > > > opposites". Once we try to define the stress it may seem > > > > > extremely > > > > > > > harmful(when in excess). Now the main point here is that > > we > > > > > should > > > > > > > see the other face of the coin also. Stress is also termed > > > as > > > > > > > misplaced effort and hence by listening to it we are doing > > > things > > > > > > in > > > > > > > a different manner. Also by not blocking it we are > > evolving > > > us > > > > > > into a > > > > > > > world were we know that some bad time is going on but > > still > > > the > > > > > > > efforts are in positive direction. Hence the hidden > > meaning > > > is > > > > > > self > > > > > > > realization which is equally important in any kind of > > > scenario. > > > > > > Until > > > > > > > and unless we do a reality check we will be living in a > > > world of > > > > > > make > > > > > > > belief(stressed out) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > > just > > > get > > > > > > > louder and bigger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here we need to understand an important concept of > > > Energy. > > > > > > Stress > > > > > > > takes away the energy needed for healing. Indeed strange > > but > > > a > > > > > > small > > > > > > > example would be a case where a person doesnt realize he > > is > > > > > > stressed > > > > > > > out and leads into one problem after another. Remember > > many > > > times > > > > > > we > > > > > > > are angry towards someone but our anger reflect in every > > > thing > > > > > > that > > > > > > > we do and even onto those also who are innocent with this > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the most difficult question. Can stress really do > > > help us? > > > > > > The > > > > > > > answer will be yes but once it is at normal levels. > > Remember > > > the > > > > > > > times when are coupled with challenging situations with > > > > > deadlines. > > > > > > > The end result once we are finished with the assignment(on > > > > > > deadline) > > > > > > > is relected on individual`s personality and his day to day > > > > > routine > > > > > > > energy levels. But once in excess, stress can only make > > you > > > look > > > > > > even > > > > > > > more stressed out. But the positive side would be we > > strive > > > > > > towards > > > > > > > stress relieving methods like Meditation etc but this > > > depends > > > > > from > > > > > > > person to person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. Or Adverse > > > > > > > configration/positioning of planets relative to Lagna/Moon > > > in a > > > > > > > native chart or during transits. Or operative periods of > > > > > > > Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would not be correct to relate stress to any particular > > > > > planet. > > > > > > > There are a host of factors which needs to be taken into > > > account. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > primary would be the Vimshottari Dasha,Aspects,Shadbala, > > > Argalas > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope the above is of help to some extent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > I was reading an article which says --Stree is an > > > > > > information.Use > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > > just > > > get > > > > > > > > louder and bigger. > > > > > > > > How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > Urgent,-- get recharged,--get help/support,-- go for > > > > > > meditation, -- > > > > > > > > work smart not hard, --etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I am thinking what it all means in astrological > > terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or Adverse configration/positioning of planets relative > > to > > > > > > > > Lagna/Moon in a native chart or during transits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or operative periods of Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think dear friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Hi RR how to calculate the strength of moon. regards angel , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > Although you stated that my suggestion to study this in a few > charts was impractical -- I disagree :-) > I have no problems with or aversion towards free-associations in > the process of figuring out, but charts keep us somewhat on track > and the danger of going out too far afield is reduced. Ultimately, > the purpose of the figuring out would be to apply in charts during > analysis, so why not start with those even while free-associating. > > But to each his own devices and preferences. > > Everything is information in a sense, so stress too probably can be > seen as information; however it is information that comes to us > through the emotional intelligence or emotional channel hence should > be looked at as a feeling (bad feeling actually ranging from > nervousness to deep paralysing fear in the susceptible). Mercury is > probably the channel of linear, logical information one can say while > moon is the other channel of perception, the emotional/affective > channel. Stress primarily affects the consciousness or awareness as a > change in feeling (could be mental or may be perceived as headache, > indigestion, and other means). Stress is often not felt as such > because of mental defenses such as repression, denial etc. and > surfaces as symptoms of feeling and sensations, etc. > > Hence the strength of moon as a good protection against stress makes > sense. The second defense of intellectualization, understanding the > cause of stress etc would be mercury's domain but that comes later -- > after the irrational feelings die down or are controlled. > > RR > > , "Inder" <indervohra2001@y.. ..> > wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Moon is mind. Mercury is intellect. > > Problems of Moon could be agony, depression,meloncoly, grief etc. > > Our good friend Saturn can give you as much misery, agony, > > meloncolia etc as you like. > > But this is not nervousness or stress. > > Similarly Jupiter can give Moon ecstasy, joy, happiness, hope etc, > > but some times with these so called positive emotions also one can > > get stressed/nervous. Like, I may have promotion orders in my hand > > but feeling nervous as well as joyful. > > Therefore Stres as an information should be governed by Mercury. > > Inder > > > > - In , "Manoshi Chatterjee" > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > Dear Rajat, > > > > > > You said exactly what I was looking for. > > > > > > Thanx > > > Manoshi > > > > > > , "Rajat Bhatia" > > > <bentleyclothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Single most important factor that decides to the amount of > > stress > > > that we can feel is the Strength or Weekness of Moon. > > > > > > > > Moon is Mana and all stress, fatigue is mostly on the level of > > > mind. > > > > > > > > A Moon that is Paksha Bali, well placed, ruling good houses and > > > without excessive influence of Saturn[depression], Mars[anger] and > > > Rahu[fear] is like a strong friend that help us in overcoming > > > stress, negativity by making us positive and optimistic. > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna calls this kind of Moon/Mind our Best Friend and if > > > it is week, it is our worst enemy. > > > > > > > > Other important factors that may be looked for pschological > > > strength of a native are: > > > > > > > > 1.Asc & its lord > > > > 2.Mercury for basic mentality and intellect > > > > 3.Fourth house of heart and emotional nature[manas]. > > > > 4.Fifth house for Budhi with Jupiter for judgement & > intelligence > > > > 5.Ninth house with Sun for inner soul strength > > > > > > > > The writings quoted in Inder's mail could be interpreted thus : > > > > > > > > Its hinting at a technique of meditation wherein we have not to > > > stop or control our thoughts but by being a witness/saakshi, we > > can > > > overcome them and reach a higher consciousness. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Rajat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > You can just call me Gaurav no need to add "ji". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Gaurav ji has given very good analysis. > > > > > > Rohiniji tells us to analyse several charts to come to some > > > > > > conclusion. I think it may not be practical to find out > > > stressed > > > > > > persons for astro analysis. > > > > > > Stress and strain ,in engineering,are two different but > > > related > > > > > > words. > > > > > > If we subject some body/material/structure to some outside > > > force, > > > > > it > > > > > > will cause stress to that material. This stress will cause > > > some > > > > > > deformation in the material to cope up with the stress. This > > > > > > deformation is called strain. A brittle material say chalk > > > stick if > > > > > > stressed will break immediately as it is not straining but > > > other > > > > > > materials will strain to survive. > > > > > > Rohiniji and Garauvji conclude that we can not > > > assign 'stress' to > > > > > > any one planet.Now how I am thinking it is like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > If we are in stressful condition, we can get relief by > > several > > > > > means. > > > > > > Rational thinking,--the persons who have right thinking [ > > good > > > > > > positioning of Mercury in chart] can rationalise the > > > situation, and > > > > > > reduce the stress. > > > > > > Some benevolent help from outside [in chart good aspects to > > > > > > Mercury?] may help situation. > > > > > > Meditation-- here you suspend all the thinking [very > > difficult > > > > > > offcource], concentrate on your body, head or breathing etc, > > > it > > > > > > would help. Here functions of Mercury planet is suspended. > > > Zero > > > > > > thinking. > > > > > > Tao flow-- let the situation flow, dont strain nervous > > system > > > [ > > > > > > Mercury] > > > > > > Go to psychic/dreamy/emotinal word { although Mercury is not > > > > > > comfortable in such word of Pisces rasi} and get lost > > > temporarily > > > > > or > > > > > > for longer duration. > > > > > > > > > > > > As we see above in all these situations Mercury is the sole > > > planet > > > > > > which is assigned with stress related phenomena. Other > > > > > > planets /conditions can either cause stress or help to > > reduce > > > > > stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > And lastly if stress is information then information means > > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we add something more here? friends! > > > > > > Some loopholes in this thinking? > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will break the answer in the few parts. Lets us analyze > > > them > > > > > one > > > > > > by > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Stress is an information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A medical info first before we induldge in astro aspect. > > The > > > > > > hormone > > > > > > > cortisol, secreted by the adrenal glands, is often called > > > > > > the "stress > > > > > > > hormone" because its levels rise following physical and > > > emotional > > > > > > > stress. Abnormal blood cortisol levels can result in > > > metabolic > > > > > > > disturbances and in severe cases may lead to life- > > > threatening > > > > > > > illnesses. Now the main thing here is that this hormone is > > > more > > > > > > than > > > > > > > a simple marker of stress levels- it is necessary for the > > > > > > functioning > > > > > > > of almost every part of the body. Excesses or deficiencies > > > of > > > > > this > > > > > > > crucial hormone are also lead to various physical symptoms > > > and > > > > > > > disease states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the astro aspect, Stress is indeed an > > > information. > > > > > > It > > > > > > > can be found to be co-related to the so called bad phases > > in > > > > > life. > > > > > > > Now this stress is information in a sense meaning that > > > something > > > > > > is > > > > > > > wrong or something is not on track. Hence we tend to think > > a > > > lot > > > > > > in > > > > > > > such times, the reasons can be anything and so do effects > > of > > > it > > > > > (be > > > > > > it > > > > > > > emotional or physical). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Use it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all have different capabilites and capacities. An > > > explaination > > > > > > to > > > > > > > using stress could pertain to self healing(which varies > > from > > > > > > person > > > > > > > to person). The advantage of using it lies in the fact > > that > > > if we > > > > > > are > > > > > > > able to come out of it, we are stronger in the long run or > > > else > > > > > > vice > > > > > > > versa will happen and stress will emerge to be stronger in > > > future > > > > > > > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This relates us to an important aspect- "everything in > > life > > > has > > > > > > > opposites". Once we try to define the stress it may seem > > > > > extremely > > > > > > > harmful(when in excess). Now the main point here is that > > we > > > > > should > > > > > > > see the other face of the coin also. Stress is also termed > > > as > > > > > > > misplaced effort and hence by listening to it we are doing > > > things > > > > > > in > > > > > > > a different manner. Also by not blocking it we are > > evolving > > > us > > > > > > into a > > > > > > > world were we know that some bad time is going on but > > still > > > the > > > > > > > efforts are in positive direction. Hence the hidden > > meaning > > > is > > > > > > self > > > > > > > realization which is equally important in any kind of > > > scenario. > > > > > > Until > > > > > > > and unless we do a reality check we will be living in a > > > world of > > > > > > make > > > > > > > belief(stressed out) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > > just > > > get > > > > > > > louder and bigger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here we need to understand an important concept of > > > Energy. > > > > > > Stress > > > > > > > takes away the energy needed for healing. Indeed strange > > but > > > a > > > > > > small > > > > > > > example would be a case where a person doesnt realize he > > is > > > > > > stressed > > > > > > > out and leads into one problem after another. Remember > > many > > > times > > > > > > we > > > > > > > are angry towards someone but our anger reflect in every > > > thing > > > > > > that > > > > > > > we do and even onto those also who are innocent with this > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the most difficult question. Can stress really do > > > help us? > > > > > > The > > > > > > > answer will be yes but once it is at normal levels. > > Remember > > > the > > > > > > > times when are coupled with challenging situations with > > > > > deadlines. > > > > > > > The end result once we are finished with the assignment(on > > > > > > deadline) > > > > > > > is relected on individual`s personality and his day to day > > > > > routine > > > > > > > energy levels. But once in excess, stress can only make > > you > > > look > > > > > > even > > > > > > > more stressed out. But the positive side would be we > > strive > > > > > > towards > > > > > > > stress relieving methods like Meditation etc but this > > > depends > > > > > from > > > > > > > person to person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. Or Adverse > > > > > > > configration/positioning of planets relative to Lagna/Moon > > > in a > > > > > > > native chart or during transits. Or operative periods of > > > > > > > Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would not be correct to relate stress to any particular > > > > > planet. > > > > > > > There are a host of factors which needs to be taken into > > > account. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > primary would be the Vimshottari Dasha,Aspects,Shadbala, > > > Argalas > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope the above is of help to some extent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > I was reading an article which says --Stree is an > > > > > > information.Use > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > > just > > > get > > > > > > > > louder and bigger. > > > > > > > > How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > Urgent,-- get recharged,--get help/support,-- go for > > > > > > meditation, -- > > > > > > > > work smart not hard, --etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I am thinking what it all means in astrological > > terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or Adverse configration/positioning of planets relative > > to > > > > > > > > Lagna/Moon in a native chart or during transits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or operative periods of Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think dear friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Dear Rohiniji, In the most of the relaxation techniques currently flooded in the market and also as told by our great Yogis, the best method to relieve stress is to stop thinking and start feeling. You feel your pains, your body, your thinking process,your breathing, your headache,etc etc and your stress will be reduced or controlled. You have to suspend thinking and concentrate on feeling. But it is very difficult to controll that little fellow called Mercury and hence thinking and hence STRESS. Inder - In , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > Although you stated that my suggestion to study this in a few > charts was impractical -- I disagree :-) > I have no problems with or aversion towards free-associations in > the process of figuring out, but charts keep us somewhat on track > and the danger of going out too far afield is reduced. Ultimately, > the purpose of the figuring out would be to apply in charts during > analysis, so why not start with those even while free-associating. > > But to each his own devices and preferences. > > Everything is information in a sense, so stress too probably can be > seen as information; however it is information that comes to us > through the emotional intelligence or emotional channel hence should > be looked at as a feeling (bad feeling actually ranging from > nervousness to deep paralysing fear in the susceptible). Mercury is > probably the channel of linear, logical information one can say while > moon is the other channel of perception, the emotional/affective > channel. Stress primarily affects the consciousness or awareness as a > change in feeling (could be mental or may be perceived as headache, > indigestion, and other means). Stress is often not felt as such > because of mental defenses such as repression, denial etc. and > surfaces as symptoms of feeling and sensations, etc. > > Hence the strength of moon as a good protection against stress makes > sense. The second defense of intellectualization, understanding the > cause of stress etc would be mercury's domain but that comes later -- > after the irrational feelings die down or are controlled. > > RR > > , "Inder" <indervohra2001> > wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Moon is mind. Mercury is intellect. > > Problems of Moon could be agony, depression,meloncoly, grief etc. > > Our good friend Saturn can give you as much misery, agony, > > meloncolia etc as you like. > > But this is not nervousness or stress. > > Similarly Jupiter can give Moon ecstasy, joy, happiness, hope etc, > > but some times with these so called positive emotions also one can > > get stressed/nervous. Like, I may have promotion orders in my hand > > but feeling nervous as well as joyful. > > Therefore Stres as an information should be governed by Mercury. > > Inder > > > > - In , "Manoshi Chatterjee" > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > Dear Rajat, > > > > > > You said exactly what I was looking for. > > > > > > Thanx > > > Manoshi > > > > > > , "Rajat Bhatia" > > > <bentleyclothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Single most important factor that decides to the amount of > > stress > > > that we can feel is the Strength or Weekness of Moon. > > > > > > > > Moon is Mana and all stress, fatigue is mostly on the level of > > > mind. > > > > > > > > A Moon that is Paksha Bali, well placed, ruling good houses and > > > without excessive influence of Saturn[depression], Mars[anger] and > > > Rahu[fear] is like a strong friend that help us in overcoming > > > stress, negativity by making us positive and optimistic. > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna calls this kind of Moon/Mind our Best Friend and if > > > it is week, it is our worst enemy. > > > > > > > > Other important factors that may be looked for pschological > > > strength of a native are: > > > > > > > > 1.Asc & its lord > > > > 2.Mercury for basic mentality and intellect > > > > 3.Fourth house of heart and emotional nature[manas]. > > > > 4.Fifth house for Budhi with Jupiter for judgement & > intelligence > > > > 5.Ninth house with Sun for inner soul strength > > > > > > > > The writings quoted in Inder's mail could be interpreted thus : > > > > > > > > Its hinting at a technique of meditation wherein we have not to > > > stop or control our thoughts but by being a witness/saakshi, we > > can > > > overcome them and reach a higher consciousness. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Rajat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > You can just call me Gaurav no need to add "ji". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Gaurav ji has given very good analysis. > > > > > > Rohiniji tells us to analyse several charts to come to some > > > > > > conclusion. I think it may not be practical to find out > > > stressed > > > > > > persons for astro analysis. > > > > > > Stress and strain ,in engineering,are two different but > > > related > > > > > > words. > > > > > > If we subject some body/material/structure to some outside > > > force, > > > > > it > > > > > > will cause stress to that material. This stress will cause > > > some > > > > > > deformation in the material to cope up with the stress. This > > > > > > deformation is called strain. A brittle material say chalk > > > stick if > > > > > > stressed will break immediately as it is not straining but > > > other > > > > > > materials will strain to survive. > > > > > > Rohiniji and Garauvji conclude that we can not > > > assign 'stress' to > > > > > > any one planet.Now how I am thinking it is like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > If we are in stressful condition, we can get relief by > > several > > > > > means. > > > > > > Rational thinking,--the persons who have right thinking [ > > good > > > > > > positioning of Mercury in chart] can rationalise the > > > situation, and > > > > > > reduce the stress. > > > > > > Some benevolent help from outside [in chart good aspects to > > > > > > Mercury?] may help situation. > > > > > > Meditation-- here you suspend all the thinking [very > > difficult > > > > > > offcource], concentrate on your body, head or breathing etc, > > > it > > > > > > would help. Here functions of Mercury planet is suspended. > > > Zero > > > > > > thinking. > > > > > > Tao flow-- let the situation flow, dont strain nervous > > system > > > [ > > > > > > Mercury] > > > > > > Go to psychic/dreamy/emotinal word { although Mercury is not > > > > > > comfortable in such word of Pisces rasi} and get lost > > > temporarily > > > > > or > > > > > > for longer duration. > > > > > > > > > > > > As we see above in all these situations Mercury is the sole > > > planet > > > > > > which is assigned with stress related phenomena. Other > > > > > > planets /conditions can either cause stress or help to > > reduce > > > > > stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > And lastly if stress is information then information means > > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we add something more here? friends! > > > > > > Some loopholes in this thinking? > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will break the answer in the few parts. Lets us analyze > > > them > > > > > one > > > > > > by > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Stress is an information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A medical info first before we induldge in astro aspect. > > The > > > > > > hormone > > > > > > > cortisol, secreted by the adrenal glands, is often called > > > > > > the "stress > > > > > > > hormone" because its levels rise following physical and > > > emotional > > > > > > > stress. Abnormal blood cortisol levels can result in > > > metabolic > > > > > > > disturbances and in severe cases may lead to life- > > > threatening > > > > > > > illnesses. Now the main thing here is that this hormone is > > > more > > > > > > than > > > > > > > a simple marker of stress levels- it is necessary for the > > > > > > functioning > > > > > > > of almost every part of the body. Excesses or deficiencies > > > of > > > > > this > > > > > > > crucial hormone are also lead to various physical symptoms > > > and > > > > > > > disease states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the astro aspect, Stress is indeed an > > > information. > > > > > > It > > > > > > > can be found to be co-related to the so called bad phases > > in > > > > > life. > > > > > > > Now this stress is information in a sense meaning that > > > something > > > > > > is > > > > > > > wrong or something is not on track. Hence we tend to think > > a > > > lot > > > > > > in > > > > > > > such times, the reasons can be anything and so do effects > > of > > > it > > > > > (be > > > > > > it > > > > > > > emotional or physical). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Use it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all have different capabilites and capacities. An > > > explaination > > > > > > to > > > > > > > using stress could pertain to self healing(which varies > > from > > > > > > person > > > > > > > to person). The advantage of using it lies in the fact > > that > > > if we > > > > > > are > > > > > > > able to come out of it, we are stronger in the long run or > > > else > > > > > > vice > > > > > > > versa will happen and stress will emerge to be stronger in > > > future > > > > > > > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This relates us to an important aspect- "everything in > > life > > > has > > > > > > > opposites". Once we try to define the stress it may seem > > > > > extremely > > > > > > > harmful(when in excess). Now the main point here is that > > we > > > > > should > > > > > > > see the other face of the coin also. Stress is also termed > > > as > > > > > > > misplaced effort and hence by listening to it we are doing > > > things > > > > > > in > > > > > > > a different manner. Also by not blocking it we are > > evolving > > > us > > > > > > into a > > > > > > > world were we know that some bad time is going on but > > still > > > the > > > > > > > efforts are in positive direction. Hence the hidden > > meaning > > > is > > > > > > self > > > > > > > realization which is equally important in any kind of > > > scenario. > > > > > > Until > > > > > > > and unless we do a reality check we will be living in a > > > world of > > > > > > make > > > > > > > belief(stressed out) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > > just > > > get > > > > > > > louder and bigger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here we need to understand an important concept of > > > Energy. > > > > > > Stress > > > > > > > takes away the energy needed for healing. Indeed strange > > but > > > a > > > > > > small > > > > > > > example would be a case where a person doesnt realize he > > is > > > > > > stressed > > > > > > > out and leads into one problem after another. Remember > > many > > > times > > > > > > we > > > > > > > are angry towards someone but our anger reflect in every > > > thing > > > > > > that > > > > > > > we do and even onto those also who are innocent with this > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the most difficult question. Can stress really do > > > help us? > > > > > > The > > > > > > > answer will be yes but once it is at normal levels. > > Remember > > > the > > > > > > > times when are coupled with challenging situations with > > > > > deadlines. > > > > > > > The end result once we are finished with the assignment (on > > > > > > deadline) > > > > > > > is relected on individual`s personality and his day to day > > > > > routine > > > > > > > energy levels. But once in excess, stress can only make > > you > > > look > > > > > > even > > > > > > > more stressed out. But the positive side would be we > > strive > > > > > > towards > > > > > > > stress relieving methods like Meditation etc but this > > > depends > > > > > from > > > > > > > person to person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. Or Adverse > > > > > > > configration/positioning of planets relative to Lagna/Moon > > > in a > > > > > > > native chart or during transits. Or operative periods of > > > > > > > Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would not be correct to relate stress to any particular > > > > > planet. > > > > > > > There are a host of factors which needs to be taken into > > > account. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > primary would be the Vimshottari Dasha,Aspects,Shadbala, > > > Argalas > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope the above is of help to some extent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > I was reading an article which says --Stree is an > > > > > > information.Use > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > > just > > > get > > > > > > > > louder and bigger. > > > > > > > > How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > Urgent,-- get recharged,--get help/support,-- go for > > > > > > meditation, -- > > > > > > > > work smart not hard, --etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I am thinking what it all means in astrological > > terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or Adverse configration/positioning of planets relative > > to > > > > > > > > Lagna/Moon in a native chart or during transits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or operative periods of Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think dear friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 pakshabala is the most effective way for determining beneficience strength. The method I like best is given in the early slokas of Saravali (Kalyan Verma's) RR , "angelgoel" <angelgoel> wrote: > Hi RR > > how to calculate the strength of moon. > > regards > angel > > , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > Although you stated that my suggestion to study this in a few > > charts was impractical -- I disagree :-) > > I have no problems with or aversion towards free-associations in > > the process of figuring out, but charts keep us somewhat on track > > and the danger of going out too far afield is reduced. Ultimately, > > the purpose of the figuring out would be to apply in charts during > > analysis, so why not start with those even while free-associating. > > > > But to each his own devices and preferences. > > > > Everything is information in a sense, so stress too probably can be > > seen as information; however it is information that comes to us > > through the emotional intelligence or emotional channel hence should > > be looked at as a feeling (bad feeling actually ranging from > > nervousness to deep paralysing fear in the susceptible). Mercury is > > probably the channel of linear, logical information one can say > while > > moon is the other channel of perception, the emotional/affective > > channel. Stress primarily affects the consciousness or awareness as > a > > change in feeling (could be mental or may be perceived as headache, > > indigestion, and other means). Stress is often not felt as such > > because of mental defenses such as repression, denial etc. and > > surfaces as symptoms of feeling and sensations, etc. > > > > Hence the strength of moon as a good protection against stress makes > > sense. The second defense of intellectualization, understanding the > > cause of stress etc would be mercury's domain but that comes later > -- > > after the irrational feelings die down or are controlled. > > > > RR > > > > , "Inder" <indervohra2001@y.. > .> > > wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > Moon is mind. Mercury is intellect. > > > Problems of Moon could be agony, depression,meloncoly, grief etc. > > > Our good friend Saturn can give you as much misery, agony, > > > meloncolia etc as you like. > > > But this is not nervousness or stress. > > > Similarly Jupiter can give Moon ecstasy, joy, happiness, hope etc, > > > but some times with these so called positive emotions also one can > > > get stressed/nervous. Like, I may have promotion orders in my hand > > > but feeling nervous as well as joyful. > > > Therefore Stres as an information should be governed by Mercury. > > > Inder > > > > > > - In , "Manoshi Chatterjee" > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajat, > > > > > > > > You said exactly what I was looking for. > > > > > > > > Thanx > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > , "Rajat Bhatia" > > > > <bentleyclothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Single most important factor that decides to the amount of > > > stress > > > > that we can feel is the Strength or Weekness of Moon. > > > > > > > > > > Moon is Mana and all stress, fatigue is mostly on the level of > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > A Moon that is Paksha Bali, well placed, ruling good houses > and > > > > without excessive influence of Saturn[depression], Mars[anger] > and > > > > Rahu[fear] is like a strong friend that help us in overcoming > > > > stress, negativity by making us positive and optimistic. > > > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna calls this kind of Moon/Mind our Best Friend and > if > > > > it is week, it is our worst enemy. > > > > > > > > > > Other important factors that may be looked for pschological > > > > strength of a native are: > > > > > > > > > > 1.Asc & its lord > > > > > 2.Mercury for basic mentality and intellect > > > > > 3.Fourth house of heart and emotional nature[manas]. > > > > > 4.Fifth house for Budhi with Jupiter for judgement & > > intelligence > > > > > 5.Ninth house with Sun for inner soul strength > > > > > > > > > > The writings quoted in Inder's mail could be interpreted thus > : > > > > > > > > > > Its hinting at a technique of meditation wherein we have not > to > > > > stop or control our thoughts but by being a witness/saakshi, we > > > can > > > > overcome them and reach a higher consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rajat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > You can just call me Gaurav no need to add "ji". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > Gaurav ji has given very good analysis. > > > > > > > Rohiniji tells us to analyse several charts to come to > some > > > > > > > conclusion. I think it may not be practical to find out > > > > stressed > > > > > > > persons for astro analysis. > > > > > > > Stress and strain ,in engineering,are two different but > > > > related > > > > > > > words. > > > > > > > If we subject some body/material/structure to some outside > > > > force, > > > > > > it > > > > > > > will cause stress to that material. This stress will cause > > > > some > > > > > > > deformation in the material to cope up with the stress. > This > > > > > > > deformation is called strain. A brittle material say chalk > > > > stick if > > > > > > > stressed will break immediately as it is not straining but > > > > other > > > > > > > materials will strain to survive. > > > > > > > Rohiniji and Garauvji conclude that we can not > > > > assign 'stress' to > > > > > > > any one planet.Now how I am thinking it is like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we are in stressful condition, we can get relief by > > > several > > > > > > means. > > > > > > > Rational thinking,--the persons who have right thinking [ > > > good > > > > > > > positioning of Mercury in chart] can rationalise the > > > > situation, and > > > > > > > reduce the stress. > > > > > > > Some benevolent help from outside [in chart good aspects > to > > > > > > > Mercury?] may help situation. > > > > > > > Meditation-- here you suspend all the thinking [very > > > difficult > > > > > > > offcource], concentrate on your body, head or breathing > etc, > > > > it > > > > > > > would help. Here functions of Mercury planet is suspended. > > > > Zero > > > > > > > thinking. > > > > > > > Tao flow-- let the situation flow, dont strain nervous > > > system > > > > [ > > > > > > > Mercury] > > > > > > > Go to psychic/dreamy/emotinal word { although Mercury is > not > > > > > > > comfortable in such word of Pisces rasi} and get lost > > > > temporarily > > > > > > or > > > > > > > for longer duration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we see above in all these situations Mercury is the > sole > > > > planet > > > > > > > which is assigned with stress related phenomena. Other > > > > > > > planets /conditions can either cause stress or help to > > > reduce > > > > > > stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And lastly if stress is information then information means > > > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we add something more here? friends! > > > > > > > Some loopholes in this thinking? > > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > > > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will break the answer in the few parts. Lets us > analyze > > > > them > > > > > > one > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Stress is an information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A medical info first before we induldge in astro aspect. > > > The > > > > > > > hormone > > > > > > > > cortisol, secreted by the adrenal glands, is often > called > > > > > > > the "stress > > > > > > > > hormone" because its levels rise following physical and > > > > emotional > > > > > > > > stress. Abnormal blood cortisol levels can result in > > > > metabolic > > > > > > > > disturbances and in severe cases may lead to life- > > > > threatening > > > > > > > > illnesses. Now the main thing here is that this hormone > is > > > > more > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > a simple marker of stress levels- it is necessary for > the > > > > > > > functioning > > > > > > > > of almost every part of the body. Excesses or > deficiencies > > > > of > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > crucial hormone are also lead to various physical > symptoms > > > > and > > > > > > > > disease states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the astro aspect, Stress is indeed an > > > > information. > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > can be found to be co-related to the so called bad > phases > > > in > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > Now this stress is information in a sense meaning that > > > > something > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > wrong or something is not on track. Hence we tend to > think > > > a > > > > lot > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > such times, the reasons can be anything and so do > effects > > > of > > > > it > > > > > > (be > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > emotional or physical). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Use it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all have different capabilites and capacities. An > > > > explaination > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > using stress could pertain to self healing(which varies > > > from > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > to person). The advantage of using it lies in the fact > > > that > > > > if we > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > able to come out of it, we are stronger in the long run > or > > > > else > > > > > > > vice > > > > > > > > versa will happen and stress will emerge to be stronger > in > > > > future > > > > > > > > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This relates us to an important aspect- "everything in > > > life > > > > has > > > > > > > > opposites". Once we try to define the stress it may seem > > > > > > extremely > > > > > > > > harmful(when in excess). Now the main point here is that > > > we > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > see the other face of the coin also. Stress is also > termed > > > > as > > > > > > > > misplaced effort and hence by listening to it we are > doing > > > > things > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > a different manner. Also by not blocking it we are > > > evolving > > > > us > > > > > > > into a > > > > > > > > world were we know that some bad time is going on but > > > still > > > > the > > > > > > > > efforts are in positive direction. Hence the hidden > > > meaning > > > > is > > > > > > > self > > > > > > > > realization which is equally important in any kind of > > > > scenario. > > > > > > > Until > > > > > > > > and unless we do a reality check we will be living in a > > > > world of > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > belief(stressed out) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > > > just > > > > get > > > > > > > > louder and bigger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here we need to understand an important concept of > > > > Energy. > > > > > > > Stress > > > > > > > > takes away the energy needed for healing. Indeed strange > > > but > > > > a > > > > > > > small > > > > > > > > example would be a case where a person doesnt realize he > > > is > > > > > > > stressed > > > > > > > > out and leads into one problem after another. Remember > > > many > > > > times > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > are angry towards someone but our anger reflect in every > > > > thing > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > we do and even onto those also who are innocent with > this > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the most difficult question. Can stress really do > > > > help us? > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > answer will be yes but once it is at normal levels. > > > Remember > > > > the > > > > > > > > times when are coupled with challenging situations with > > > > > > deadlines. > > > > > > > > The end result once we are finished with the > assignment(on > > > > > > > deadline) > > > > > > > > is relected on individual`s personality and his day to > day > > > > > > routine > > > > > > > > energy levels. But once in excess, stress can only make > > > you > > > > look > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > more stressed out. But the positive side would be we > > > strive > > > > > > > towards > > > > > > > > stress relieving methods like Meditation etc but this > > > > depends > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > person to person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. Or Adverse > > > > > > > > configration/positioning of planets relative to > Lagna/Moon > > > > in a > > > > > > > > native chart or during transits. Or operative periods of > > > > > > > > Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would not be correct to relate stress to any > particular > > > > > > planet. > > > > > > > > There are a host of factors which needs to be taken into > > > > account. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > primary would be the Vimshottari Dasha,Aspects,Shadbala, > > > > Argalas > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope the above is of help to some extent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > I was reading an article which says --Stree is an > > > > > > > information.Use > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > > It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > > > just > > > > get > > > > > > > > > louder and bigger. > > > > > > > > > How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > > Urgent,-- get recharged,--get help/support,-- go for > > > > > > > meditation, -- > > > > > > > > > work smart not hard, --etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I am thinking what it all means in astrological > > > terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or Adverse configration/positioning of planets > relative > > > to > > > > > > > > > Lagna/Moon in a native chart or during transits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or operative periods of Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think dear friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Yes the little fellow is indeed very controlling. It makes one dig their heels, just for the sake of doing it! RR , "Inder" <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear Rohiniji, > In the most of the relaxation techniques currently flooded in the > market and also as told by our great Yogis, the best method to > relieve stress is to stop thinking and start feeling. > You feel your pains, your body, your thinking process,your > breathing, your headache,etc etc and your stress will be reduced or > controlled. > You have to suspend thinking and concentrate on feeling. > But it is very difficult to controll that little fellow called > Mercury and hence thinking and hence STRESS. > Inder > > - In , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > Although you stated that my suggestion to study this in a few > > charts was impractical -- I disagree :-) > > I have no problems with or aversion towards free-associations in > > the process of figuring out, but charts keep us somewhat on track > > and the danger of going out too far afield is reduced. Ultimately, > > the purpose of the figuring out would be to apply in charts during > > analysis, so why not start with those even while free-associating. > > > > But to each his own devices and preferences. > > > > Everything is information in a sense, so stress too probably can > be > > seen as information; however it is information that comes to us > > through the emotional intelligence or emotional channel hence > should > > be looked at as a feeling (bad feeling actually ranging from > > nervousness to deep paralysing fear in the susceptible). Mercury > is > > probably the channel of linear, logical information one can say > while > > moon is the other channel of perception, the emotional/affective > > channel. Stress primarily affects the consciousness or awareness > as a > > change in feeling (could be mental or may be perceived as > headache, > > indigestion, and other means). Stress is often not felt as such > > because of mental defenses such as repression, denial etc. and > > surfaces as symptoms of feeling and sensations, etc. > > > > Hence the strength of moon as a good protection against stress > makes > > sense. The second defense of intellectualization, understanding > the > > cause of stress etc would be mercury's domain but that comes > later -- > > after the irrational feelings die down or are controlled. > > > > RR > > > > , "Inder" > <indervohra2001> > > wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > Moon is mind. Mercury is intellect. > > > Problems of Moon could be agony, depression,meloncoly, grief etc. > > > Our good friend Saturn can give you as much misery, agony, > > > meloncolia etc as you like. > > > But this is not nervousness or stress. > > > Similarly Jupiter can give Moon ecstasy, joy, happiness, hope > etc, > > > but some times with these so called positive emotions also one > can > > > get stressed/nervous. Like, I may have promotion orders in my > hand > > > but feeling nervous as well as joyful. > > > Therefore Stres as an information should be governed by Mercury. > > > Inder > > > > > > - In , "Manoshi Chatterjee" > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajat, > > > > > > > > You said exactly what I was looking for. > > > > > > > > Thanx > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > , "Rajat Bhatia" > > > > <bentleyclothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Single most important factor that decides to the amount of > > > stress > > > > that we can feel is the Strength or Weekness of Moon. > > > > > > > > > > Moon is Mana and all stress, fatigue is mostly on the level > of > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > A Moon that is Paksha Bali, well placed, ruling good houses > and > > > > without excessive influence of Saturn[depression], Mars[anger] > and > > > > Rahu[fear] is like a strong friend that help us in overcoming > > > > stress, negativity by making us positive and optimistic. > > > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna calls this kind of Moon/Mind our Best Friend > and if > > > > it is week, it is our worst enemy. > > > > > > > > > > Other important factors that may be looked for pschological > > > > strength of a native are: > > > > > > > > > > 1.Asc & its lord > > > > > 2.Mercury for basic mentality and intellect > > > > > 3.Fourth house of heart and emotional nature[manas]. > > > > > 4.Fifth house for Budhi with Jupiter for judgement & > > intelligence > > > > > 5.Ninth house with Sun for inner soul strength > > > > > > > > > > The writings quoted in Inder's mail could be interpreted > thus : > > > > > > > > > > Its hinting at a technique of meditation wherein we have not > to > > > > stop or control our thoughts but by being a witness/saakshi, > we > > > can > > > > overcome them and reach a higher consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rajat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > You can just call me Gaurav no need to add "ji". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > Gaurav ji has given very good analysis. > > > > > > > Rohiniji tells us to analyse several charts to come to > some > > > > > > > conclusion. I think it may not be practical to find out > > > > stressed > > > > > > > persons for astro analysis. > > > > > > > Stress and strain ,in engineering,are two different but > > > > related > > > > > > > words. > > > > > > > If we subject some body/material/structure to some > outside > > > > force, > > > > > > it > > > > > > > will cause stress to that material. This stress will > cause > > > > some > > > > > > > deformation in the material to cope up with the stress. > This > > > > > > > deformation is called strain. A brittle material say > chalk > > > > stick if > > > > > > > stressed will break immediately as it is not straining > but > > > > other > > > > > > > materials will strain to survive. > > > > > > > Rohiniji and Garauvji conclude that we can not > > > > assign 'stress' to > > > > > > > any one planet.Now how I am thinking it is like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we are in stressful condition, we can get relief by > > > several > > > > > > means. > > > > > > > Rational thinking,--the persons who have right thinking > [ > > > good > > > > > > > positioning of Mercury in chart] can rationalise the > > > > situation, and > > > > > > > reduce the stress. > > > > > > > Some benevolent help from outside [in chart good aspects > to > > > > > > > Mercury?] may help situation. > > > > > > > Meditation-- here you suspend all the thinking [very > > > difficult > > > > > > > offcource], concentrate on your body, head or breathing > etc, > > > > it > > > > > > > would help. Here functions of Mercury planet is > suspended. > > > > Zero > > > > > > > thinking. > > > > > > > Tao flow-- let the situation flow, dont strain nervous > > > system > > > > [ > > > > > > > Mercury] > > > > > > > Go to psychic/dreamy/emotinal word { although Mercury is > not > > > > > > > comfortable in such word of Pisces rasi} and get lost > > > > temporarily > > > > > > or > > > > > > > for longer duration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we see above in all these situations Mercury is the > sole > > > > planet > > > > > > > which is assigned with stress related phenomena. Other > > > > > > > planets /conditions can either cause stress or help to > > > reduce > > > > > > stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And lastly if stress is information then information > means > > > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we add something more here? friends! > > > > > > > Some loopholes in this thinking? > > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma" > > > > > > > <gauravkom> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will break the answer in the few parts. Lets us > analyze > > > > them > > > > > > one > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Stress is an information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A medical info first before we induldge in astro > aspect. > > > The > > > > > > > hormone > > > > > > > > cortisol, secreted by the adrenal glands, is often > called > > > > > > > the "stress > > > > > > > > hormone" because its levels rise following physical > and > > > > emotional > > > > > > > > stress. Abnormal blood cortisol levels can result in > > > > metabolic > > > > > > > > disturbances and in severe cases may lead to life- > > > > threatening > > > > > > > > illnesses. Now the main thing here is that this > hormone is > > > > more > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > a simple marker of stress levels- it is necessary for > the > > > > > > > functioning > > > > > > > > of almost every part of the body. Excesses or > deficiencies > > > > of > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > crucial hormone are also lead to various physical > symptoms > > > > and > > > > > > > > disease states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the astro aspect, Stress is indeed an > > > > information. > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > can be found to be co-related to the so called bad > phases > > > in > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > Now this stress is information in a sense meaning that > > > > something > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > wrong or something is not on track. Hence we tend to > think > > > a > > > > lot > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > such times, the reasons can be anything and so do > effects > > > of > > > > it > > > > > > (be > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > emotional or physical). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Use it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all have different capabilites and capacities. An > > > > explaination > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > using stress could pertain to self healing(which > varies > > > from > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > to person). The advantage of using it lies in the fact > > > that > > > > if we > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > able to come out of it, we are stronger in the long > run or > > > > else > > > > > > > vice > > > > > > > > versa will happen and stress will emerge to be > stronger in > > > > future > > > > > > > > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This relates us to an important aspect- "everything in > > > life > > > > has > > > > > > > > opposites". Once we try to define the stress it may > seem > > > > > > extremely > > > > > > > > harmful(when in excess). Now the main point here is > that > > > we > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > see the other face of the coin also. Stress is also > termed > > > > as > > > > > > > > misplaced effort and hence by listening to it we are > doing > > > > things > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > a different manner. Also by not blocking it we are > > > evolving > > > > us > > > > > > > into a > > > > > > > > world were we know that some bad time is going on but > > > still > > > > the > > > > > > > > efforts are in positive direction. Hence the hidden > > > meaning > > > > is > > > > > > > self > > > > > > > > realization which is equally important in any kind of > > > > scenario. > > > > > > > Until > > > > > > > > and unless we do a reality check we will be living in > a > > > > world of > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > belief(stressed out) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -It pays to listen fast because the messages otherwise > > > just > > > > get > > > > > > > > louder and bigger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here we need to understand an important concept of > > > > Energy. > > > > > > > Stress > > > > > > > > takes away the energy needed for healing. Indeed > strange > > > but > > > > a > > > > > > > small > > > > > > > > example would be a case where a person doesnt realize > he > > > is > > > > > > > stressed > > > > > > > > out and leads into one problem after another. Remember > > > many > > > > times > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > are angry towards someone but our anger reflect in > every > > > > thing > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > we do and even onto those also who are innocent with > this > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the most difficult question. Can stress really > do > > > > help us? > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > answer will be yes but once it is at normal levels. > > > Remember > > > > the > > > > > > > > times when are coupled with challenging situations > with > > > > > > deadlines. > > > > > > > > The end result once we are finished with the assignment > (on > > > > > > > deadline) > > > > > > > > is relected on individual`s personality and his day to > day > > > > > > routine > > > > > > > > energy levels. But once in excess, stress can only > make > > > you > > > > look > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > more stressed out. But the positive side would be we > > > strive > > > > > > > towards > > > > > > > > stress relieving methods like Meditation etc but this > > > > depends > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > person to person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. Or Adverse > > > > > > > > configration/positioning of planets relative to > Lagna/Moon > > > > in a > > > > > > > > native chart or during transits. Or operative periods > of > > > > > > > > Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would not be correct to relate stress to any > particular > > > > > > planet. > > > > > > > > There are a host of factors which needs to be taken > into > > > > account. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > primary would be the Vimshottari > Dasha,Aspects,Shadbala, > > > > Argalas > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope the above is of help to some extent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Inder" > > > > > > > > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > I was reading an article which says --Stree is an > > > > > > > information.Use > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > Listen to your stress, dont block it. > > > > > > > > > It pays to listen fast because the messages > otherwise > > > just > > > > get > > > > > > > > > louder and bigger. > > > > > > > > > How is the stress trying to help you? > > > > > > > > > Urgent,-- get recharged,--get help/support,-- go for > > > > > > > meditation, -- > > > > > > > > > work smart not hard, --etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I am thinking what it all means in astrological > > > terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can stress be related to Planet Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or Adverse configration/positioning of planets > relative > > > to > > > > > > > > > Lagna/Moon in a native chart or during transits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or operative periods of Dustasthanas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think dear friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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