2-Tanvir, & all, > Mark Kincaid...9/23...re....Life is fair.... & practicalities of Jyotish

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Dear Tanvir, friends, all:

 

What I love about Jyotish, or Astrology, even modern science, is...that we

don't really even have to believe that these things are coming from past

life times, if we don't want.

 

It's almost enough, that our charts fit us.

 

So, for whatever the reason, (though of course I, too, believe in past

lives),...still...

 

once we see that there is a direct correlation between our charts,,....and

our lives...

 

I call it the '1 to 1 Correspondence'....

 

There's literally a 1 to 1 correspondence between all the details of our

lives,

 

our heighth,

our personality...

our mind sets,

our emotional nature,...

etc...

 

on and on...

 

each area of our life, even can be found clearly, predictable, from our

charts...

 

Jyotish, then, is like this really profound, genetics,... in other words,

genetics, scientists, believe there is a 'gene' explanation for everything

too...

 

and their hope, as it should be in Jyotish,...is once we know the genetics,

'mapping', then, we can seek to improve any faulty or undeveloped genes that

we might be born with...

 

It doesn't matter whether our genes are caused by previous births, what

really matters is that 1 to 1 mapping, and the ability, to change and

improve our genes!

 

Jyotish is this perfect, ancient wisdom, that has known about this literal 1

to 1 'mapping' for 1,000's of years...

 

And today, thanks in part, to such groups as these, 'Jyotish

Remedies'....... now, Jyotish, and remedial measures, are being sorely,

emphasized again!

 

When I first started studying Jyotish over 16 years ago, you'd pick up any

book on eastern astrology and there would be 195 pages on the Jyotish, and

at the end, almost tacked on, like an after thought, would be 5 pages of

remedial measures...

 

Today, we're in the middle of a huge revival of the importance of this

remedial aspect of Jyotish.

 

So, like genetics, it doesn't really matter whether our charts, and lives

are caused by the past.

 

What really matters is the ability to improve our Cosmic, Jyotish, genes!

 

 

One of my insights re. Jyotish has been that the Malefics, in our charts,

are not just symbolic of the problems and mistakes, and sufferings, we'll

have to endure,...

 

they also represent the specific planets, (like genes), that need to be

improved, especially in order to improve that part of our lives, and chart,

where that malefic planet is.

 

Take Mars in the 7th for example.

 

It's definitely, symbolic of challenges in domestic, marital life.

 

And though most of the time, people just throw up their hands and say marry

someone else with Kuja dosha....

 

In this new light of remedial measures, we can see, that if Mars could be

improved, .... balanced or strengthened... then, we might be able to effect

the very important part of our lives dealing with marriage, relationships

and partnerships, of all kinds...

 

I also like looking at Jyotish in terms of Psychology.

 

To me, Jyotish is pure 'Vedic Psychology'....

 

So, not only does Mars represent hardships, disagreements, fights, etc. with

'mates'.... but Mars also represents our fire element, our action sense, and

our agressive tendencies.

 

In the future, Vedic Psychologists, will see configurations like these, and

then, encourage the 'person', to change those patterns within themselves,

that they feel are important or necessary to act that way!

 

Then, we can look to such great Vedic sciences like meditation, yoga and

Ayurved, to help us eliminate even very frustrating habits and mental

patterns, though they often seem, very fixed, and permanent, they are in

fact,.... our creations, and therefore within our control...to change...

 

It would be fun, to take some time, in the future, to look at the Sun and

each planet and come up with a series of very specific Psychological

'remedies' that might be able to help a person, re-program their

malefics,....into strengths!

 

 

 

Jai Guru

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

founder Starlight Unlimited

Nature's Astrology: /

is a look at the best of Western & Eastern Astrologys, and how we can

encourage

a development of a true, modern day Science of Astrology

and new :

kincaidmark/ for those who want more formal

jyotish

 

 

 

 

"Tanvir" <ultimate

 

Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:29:58 +0600

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Re: Life is not fair---Tanvir

 

 

of course, before coming to astrology i did not believe in karma/rebirth

too. but it is the only explanation/reason to say that god is not this cruel

and hurting us for nothing. i like to take god as a kind existance, so i

believe in this.

 

also there is another strong reason to believe in this. all the things

taught by hinduism [that i can verify] are found true by me, say jyotish,

mantras, remedies, yantras, even their old scientific theories are true, i

find. so i have a feeling that their rebirth theory is also true and this is

only the reason that can explain the jyotish, and why 'innocent' people

suffer, and without the rebirth theory jyotish and the whole system comes up

with a serious, big "missing part"...

 

regs

tan

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Cellular: +88 0189407202

Mail: lord_narayana

Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

Forum:

 

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Inder

Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:04 PM

Re: Life is not fair---Tanvir

 

 

Dear friends,

 

We see how beautifully Astrology depicts major course of our life.

We live as per our destiny.In good times every thing goes right and

you get every thing. When you are running a bad period , even your

best friends would cause some harm to you and you are physically and

emotionally drained. We can see this through Astrolgy.

 

But the things which comes to my mind again and again is whether the

theory of Karma [our fortune or misfortune are the results of our

actions in previous births] is authentic or bogus.

 

Human population has grown from one billion to six billion in last

100 years. That means about 500 billions first time created

indivisuals without any merits/demerits accrued from the past.

How traditional theory of Karma applicable to them ?!

 

I feel that Divine creates each of us by random. In the expanding

universe small particles like our lives are created with some random

selection. There may be some rules/nature/divinity in such

randomness but it should not be law of Karma.

 

Manoshi must be right in saying that we have to accept the life as

it comes. Life may be emerging out of nothingness only to go back

into nothingness after brief earthy sojourn.

 

Inder

 

 

 

 

 

 

~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

 

 

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What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Cellular: +88 0189407202

Mail: lord_narayana

Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

Forum:

 

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Mark Kincaid

Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:58 PM

2-Tanvir, & all, > Mark Kincaid...9/23...re....Life is fair....

& practicalities of Jyotish

 

 

Dear Tanvir, friends, all:

 

What I love about Jyotish, or Astrology, even modern science, is...that we

don't really even have to believe that these things are coming from past

life times, if we don't want.

 

It's almost enough, that our charts fit us.

 

So, for whatever the reason, (though of course I, too, believe in past

lives),...still...

 

once we see that there is a direct correlation between our charts,,....and

our lives...

 

I call it the '1 to 1 Correspondence'....

 

There's literally a 1 to 1 correspondence between all the details of our

lives,

 

our heighth,

our personality...

our mind sets,

our emotional nature,...

etc...

 

on and on...

 

each area of our life, even can be found clearly, predictable, from our

charts...

 

Jyotish, then, is like this really profound, genetics,... in other words,

genetics, scientists, believe there is a 'gene' explanation for everything

too...

 

and their hope, as it should be in Jyotish,...is once we know the genetics,

'mapping', then, we can seek to improve any faulty or undeveloped genes that

we might be born with...

 

It doesn't matter whether our genes are caused by previous births, what

really matters is that 1 to 1 mapping, and the ability, to change and

improve our genes!

 

Jyotish is this perfect, ancient wisdom, that has known about this literal 1

to 1 'mapping' for 1,000's of years...

 

And today, thanks in part, to such groups as these, 'Jyotish

Remedies'....... now, Jyotish, and remedial measures, are being sorely,

emphasized again!

 

When I first started studying Jyotish over 16 years ago, you'd pick up any

book on eastern astrology and there would be 195 pages on the Jyotish, and

at the end, almost tacked on, like an after thought, would be 5 pages of

remedial measures...

 

Today, we're in the middle of a huge revival of the importance of this

remedial aspect of Jyotish.

 

So, like genetics, it doesn't really matter whether our charts, and lives

are caused by the past.

 

What really matters is the ability to improve our Cosmic, Jyotish, genes!

 

 

One of my insights re. Jyotish has been that the Malefics, in our charts,

are not just symbolic of the problems and mistakes, and sufferings, we'll

have to endure,...

 

they also represent the specific planets, (like genes), that need to be

improved, especially in order to improve that part of our lives, and chart,

where that malefic planet is.

 

Take Mars in the 7th for example.

 

It's definitely, symbolic of challenges in domestic, marital life.

 

And though most of the time, people just throw up their hands and say marry

someone else with Kuja dosha....

 

In this new light of remedial measures, we can see, that if Mars could be

improved, .... balanced or strengthened... then, we might be able to effect

the very important part of our lives dealing with marriage, relationships

and partnerships, of all kinds...

 

I also like looking at Jyotish in terms of Psychology.

 

To me, Jyotish is pure 'Vedic Psychology'....

 

So, not only does Mars represent hardships, disagreements, fights, etc. with

'mates'.... but Mars also represents our fire element, our action sense, and

our agressive tendencies.

 

In the future, Vedic Psychologists, will see configurations like these, and

then, encourage the 'person', to change those patterns within themselves,

that they feel are important or necessary to act that way!

 

Then, we can look to such great Vedic sciences like meditation, yoga and

Ayurved, to help us eliminate even very frustrating habits and mental

patterns, though they often seem, very fixed, and permanent, they are in

fact,.... our creations, and therefore within our control...to change...

 

It would be fun, to take some time, in the future, to look at the Sun and

each planet and come up with a series of very specific Psychological

'remedies' that might be able to help a person, re-program their

malefics,....into strengths!

 

 

 

Jai Guru

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

founder Starlight Unlimited

Nature's Astrology: /

is a look at the best of Western & Eastern Astrologys, and how we can

encourage

a development of a true, modern day Science of Astrology

and new :

kincaidmark/ for those who want more formal

jyotish

 

 

 

 

 

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Excellent Article Mark I am convinced with what you say.

 

Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:Dear Tanvir, friends, all:

 

What I love about Jyotish, or Astrology, even modern science, is...that we

don't really even have to believe that these things are coming from past

life times, if we don't want.

 

It's almost enough, that our charts fit us.

 

So, for whatever the reason, (though of course I, too, believe in past

lives),...still...

 

once we see that there is a direct correlation between our charts,,....and

our lives...

 

I call it the '1 to 1 Correspondence'....

 

There's literally a 1 to 1 correspondence between all the details of our

lives,

 

our heighth,

our personality...

our mind sets,

our emotional nature,...

etc...

 

on and on...

 

each area of our life, even can be found clearly, predictable, from our

charts...

 

Jyotish, then, is like this really profound, genetics,... in other words,

genetics, scientists, believe there is a 'gene' explanation for everything

too...

 

and their hope, as it should be in Jyotish,...is once we know the genetics,

'mapping', then, we can seek to improve any faulty or undeveloped genes that

we might be born with...

 

It doesn't matter whether our genes are caused by previous births, what

really matters is that 1 to 1 mapping, and the ability, to change and

improve our genes!

 

Jyotish is this perfect, ancient wisdom, that has known about this literal 1

to 1 'mapping' for 1,000's of years...

 

And today, thanks in part, to such groups as these, 'Jyotish

Remedies'....... now, Jyotish, and remedial measures, are being sorely,

emphasized again!

 

When I first started studying Jyotish over 16 years ago, you'd pick up any

book on eastern astrology and there would be 195 pages on the Jyotish, and

at the end, almost tacked on, like an after thought, would be 5 pages of

remedial measures...

 

Today, we're in the middle of a huge revival of the importance of this

remedial aspect of Jyotish.

 

So, like genetics, it doesn't really matter whether our charts, and lives

are caused by the past.

 

What really matters is the ability to improve our Cosmic, Jyotish, genes!

 

 

One of my insights re. Jyotish has been that the Malefics, in our charts,

are not just symbolic of the problems and mistakes, and sufferings, we'll

have to endure,...

 

they also represent the specific planets, (like genes), that need to be

improved, especially in order to improve that part of our lives, and chart,

where that malefic planet is.

 

Take Mars in the 7th for example.

 

It's definitely, symbolic of challenges in domestic, marital life.

 

And though most of the time, people just throw up their hands and say marry

someone else with Kuja dosha....

 

In this new light of remedial measures, we can see, that if Mars could be

improved, .... balanced or strengthened... then, we might be able to effect

the very important part of our lives dealing with marriage, relationships

and partnerships, of all kinds...

 

I also like looking at Jyotish in terms of Psychology.

 

To me, Jyotish is pure 'Vedic Psychology'....

 

So, not only does Mars represent hardships, disagreements, fights, etc. with

'mates'.... but Mars also represents our fire element, our action sense, and

our agressive tendencies.

 

In the future, Vedic Psychologists, will see configurations like these, and

then, encourage the 'person', to change those patterns within themselves,

that they feel are important or necessary to act that way!

 

Then, we can look to such great Vedic sciences like meditation, yoga and

Ayurved, to help us eliminate even very frustrating habits and mental

patterns, though they often seem, very fixed, and permanent, they are in

fact,.... our creations, and therefore within our control...to change...

 

It would be fun, to take some time, in the future, to look at the Sun and

each planet and come up with a series of very specific Psychological

'remedies' that might be able to help a person, re-program their

malefics,....into strengths!

 

 

 

Jai Guru

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

founder Starlight Unlimited

Nature's Astrology: /

is a look at the best of Western & Eastern Astrologys, and how we can

encourage

a development of a true, modern day Science of Astrology

and new :

kincaidmark/ for those who want more formal

jyotish

 

 

 

 

"Tanvir" <ultimate

 

Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:29:58 +0600

<>

Re: Life is not fair---Tanvir

 

 

of course, before coming to astrology i did not believe in karma/rebirth

too. but it is the only explanation/reason to say that god is not this cruel

and hurting us for nothing. i like to take god as a kind existance, so i

believe in this.

 

also there is another strong reason to believe in this. all the things

taught by hinduism [that i can verify] are found true by me, say jyotish,

mantras, remedies, yantras, even their old scientific theories are true, i

find. so i have a feeling that their rebirth theory is also true and this is

only the reason that can explain the jyotish, and why 'innocent' people

suffer, and without the rebirth theory jyotish and the whole system comes up

with a serious, big "missing part"...

 

regs

tan

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Cellular: +88 0189407202

Mail: lord_narayana

Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

Forum:

 

-

Inder

 

Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:04 PM

Re: Life is not fair---Tanvir

 

 

Dear friends,

 

We see how beautifully Astrology depicts major course of our life.

We live as per our destiny.In good times every thing goes right and

you get every thing. When you are running a bad period , even your

best friends would cause some harm to you and you are physically and

emotionally drained. We can see this through Astrolgy.

 

But the things which comes to my mind again and again is whether the

theory of Karma [our fortune or misfortune are the results of our

actions in previous births] is authentic or bogus.

 

Human population has grown from one billion to six billion in last

100 years. That means about 500 billions first time created

indivisuals without any merits/demerits accrued from the past.

How traditional theory of Karma applicable to them ?!

 

I feel that Divine creates each of us by random. In the expanding

universe small particles like our lives are created with some random

selection. There may be some rules/nature/divinity in such

randomness but it should not be law of Karma.

 

Manoshi must be right in saying that we have to accept the life as

it comes. Life may be emerging out of nothingness only to go back

into nothingness after brief earthy sojourn.

 

Inder

 

 

 

 

 

 

~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

 

 

Sponsor

 

 

 

 

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