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dear tanvir ji and balaji,

have been following your mails on neech,retrograde and exalted planets,must say

they were very knowledgeable,i'll present u with an example wherein u would find

three debilitated planets and an exalted planet,all of them sitting in important

places,one of them being retro as well as vargottam.

what do we make of this chart,probably from the examples u have quoted shukra

and mangal recieve neech bhanga also,does shani being retro and neech and

vargottam cancels it's debility?,how does the mangal dasha,presently running

pose?,mercury is exalted in natal but debilitated in navamsha,is this a case of

uccha bhanga?

i would also like to pose a question on mandi being with moon and rahu

aspecting it as well,what implications does it have on the horoscope,especially

in the approaching rahu mahadasha.

awaiting your interesting response.

details

dob:2.09.68

tob:6.45 am

place: bihar sharif (bihar),lat.025.02 N,long-85.38 E

 

gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000 wrote:

Dear Balaji,

 

In my case the most evil planets are sun and rahu. Sun rules 6th house, sun's

mahadasa was difficult for me and my parents. Also whenever I had gone through

sun antardasa, again it was bad.

 

Secondly rahu mahadasa was very bad and very good. During rahu mahadasa I saw

some very good and very bad time. In my case rahu aspects all other planets

except moon so it influenced almost everything in my life.

 

Gurmeet

 

Tanvir <ultimate wrote:

Balaji Ji :

 

Your Ju gets NBRY, because it's dispositor Sani aspects it, so the rule

described in Phala Deepika applies. I am using sign aspect here like I always

do. So I am not sure if the reason is for being on mutual 7th from Moon.

 

Einsteins chart has to be read carefully before we judge the rules out of it.

First of all, I never consider birth data of such persons because the data is

not reliable as per me, I was frustrated with some. I can use only if I see

events match perfectly. Then, such a public figures *real life* can not be seen

by us so we really do not know what *happened* to them actually. We only see

some partial happenings related to career. As an example we never know when one

is going through some mental agony, or something, even though he is winning

prizes out there, we might say he is happy and this was a good time.

 

When I beat a senior team in web design competition, I was unhappy about

relationship. In the end of 1999 I was in a chess competition where I was doing

pretty good in starting, but my result was published and I did not do well.

Frustrated, I withdraw from the tournament. But on the other hand relationship

was great, and I was extra ordinarily happy.

 

Such mixed events have been analyzed in ym previous articles.

 

Real life have so many parametres and not all can be judged from such public

persons in my view. So I choose not to consider the charts of a public figure,

in general.

 

Also, a fallen planet it 8H would provide some benefit also, so this becomes

very complex to study, without a details thorough one :-)

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

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Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:07 PM

Tanvir ji & Gurmeet ji...

 

 

 

[Tanvir ji]

 

> 1. Did you come across a text / reference that a fallen planet

 

> in Kendra to Moon / Asc. gets NB? Or is it just your

> experience?

 

Both. Frawley said that in Einsitein's chart, he has Mituna

Lagna and lagnadipati neecha in the 10th, and this gives him

NBRY.

 

In my own chart, Guru gets NBRY by being sama saptaka with

Chandra, as per my grandfather (another amateur astrologer like

me) and also our family astrologer, who has said this is true

based on experience.

 

I also look at Neecha Banga from a logical angle. If a graha

gets some relief, it may be some sort of Neecha Banga. For

example, I don't know if any classical texts mention this, but I

feel that a Neecha planet aspected/disposited by a Trikonadipati

will get some relief, because it is controlled by a functional

benefic.

 

Again, it is hard to say. As Rohini ji keeps stressing,

experience is what is important. For example, I had said that

Gurmeet ji will suffer during Guru periods, and this is what I

read from his chart. However, he says that Guru Antar Dasas have

been good for him, and I think that all should agree that

experience is far greater than what one reads from a chart!

 

[Gurmeet ji]

 

> My chart is very complex, even

> some very famous astrologers have made mistakes in

> predictions.

 

I'll bet they did!

 

> When you have all planets

> in one sign, you can not apply traditional astrology rules

> from the books, you will make mistakes.

 

You must have far more information about such charts. Can you

give the special rules to be applied in such cases? Also, when

does one start with such rules? If 4 planets are in one house,

or 5, etc.

 

I feel that if "x" planets are in one house, the traditional

rules cannot be applied orthodoiacally. Also, x could range from

4 to 8. Some say that if there are 4 planets in one house, that

house becomes so important that you should treat it as Langa and

base your readings therefrom. I have not tried this.

 

> According to astrologers Jupter is too close to ketu,

> should make me sick or kill me in rahu mahadasha but it didn't

 

> happen.

 

Astrologers should never make predictions about death. I did

make one prediction about death in your chart. but I did it only

because it didn't happen! If it had, you might have expired at

age 2 or 3, but God's grace was with you. I have never predicted

death in the future, and I never will.

 

> If you want to study horoscopes with 7 planets in one sign

> I can tell you some horoscopes.

 

Can you post the TOB, DOB and POB, and also give your analysis?

The whole group can benefit!

 

> Let me tell you few things when you have seven planets

> in 11th house.

 

Very interesting! Have all these been true in your case? Also,

have you met anybody else who was born around your time, in Feb

1962? It would be interesting to see practically and

realistically how their lives have been!

 

Thanks for all the inputs. I hope that God always helps you

overcome any negative elements in your chart.

 

 

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Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs

Editor, The Partial Art of Detection

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