Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dear members, Could someone please help me clarify a doubt? I have the Moon in my chart right beside the Sun (approximately 2 º apart), but the Sun sits in Libra, and therefore in debilitation. The Suns effect is weak due to debilitation, but does this condition also influence combustion. That is, will the Moon be less combusted due to Sun's debilitation? Looking forward to your kind reply. Thank you, Rama R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 My Dear, Combustion of a planet occurs on account of the proximity of the said planet to the Sun.The extent of combustion depends on the distance of the combusted planet from the Sun.Combustion of a planet other than the moon simply means that its rays are not visible, being overshadowed by the bright rays of the Sun.However the combustion of moon is a little different.Moon has no rays of its own and merely reflects the rays of the Sun. The combustion of moon thus means that it is not able to do its job of reflecting the rays of the Sun.It would be clear from the above that combustion has no relevance to the sign in which the Sun is placed.Combustion of moon in ur case will therefore not be more or less on account of the Sun's placement in libra.But let this not bother you.Like you there are millions of ppl born on amavasya day and some of them are doing very well in life. RK nop61661 <nutrideias wrote: Dear members, Could someone please help me clarify a doubt? I have the Moon in my chart right beside the Sun (approximately 2 º apart), but the Sun sits in Libra, and therefore in debilitation. The Suns effect is weak due to debilitation, but does this condition also influence combustion. That is, will the Moon be less combusted due to Sun's debilitation? Looking forward to your kind reply. Thank you, Rama R. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dear N, You have a big problem. Both are weak.. The Moon is weak in digit strength and Sun is debilitated. Just see if the Sun has Neechabhanga G Kumar www.e.com - nop61661 <nutrideias <> Tuesday, October 12, 2004 5:56 PM Inquiry on combustion Dear members, Could someone please help me clarify a doubt? I have the Moon in my chart right beside the Sun (approximately 2 º apart), but the Sun sits in Libra, and therefore in debilitation. The Suns effect is weak due to debilitation, but does this condition also influence combustion. That is, will the Moon be less combusted due to Sun's debilitation? Looking forward to your kind reply. Thank you, Rama R. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Dear Rup Krishen, Thank you very much for your kind reply. Your explanation is crystal clear, and now I have a better notion on combustion. Since the debilitated Sun is in the ninth house, which is primarily concerned with father and being Sun the karaka for father, is it correct to conclude that my relationship with father will be below satisfactory? I am still trying to learn how to read charts, and therefore, have some difficulties interpreting the planets and signs. The Sun is the lord of the 7th house, which signifies partners or wife. I do have a poor marital relationship. Can I take both of these readings as correct? Thank you for your help. Kind regards, Rama R. , Rup Krishen Baqaya <rkbaqaya> wrote: > My Dear, Combustion of a planet occurs on account of the proximity of the said planet to the Sun.The extent of combustion depends on the distance of the combusted planet from the Sun.Combustion of a planet other than the moon simply means that its rays are not visible, being overshadowed by the bright rays of the Sun.However the combustion of moon is a little different.Moon has no rays of its own and merely reflects the rays of the Sun. The combustion of moon thus means that it is not able to do its job of reflecting the rays of the Sun.It would be clear from the above that combustion has no relevance to the sign in which the Sun is placed.Combustion of moon in ur case will therefore not be more or less on account of the Sun's placement in libra.But let this not bother you.Like you there are millions of ppl born on amavasya day and some of them are doing very well in life. RK > > nop61661 <nutrideias@n...> wrote: > Dear members, > > Could someone please help me clarify a doubt? I have the Moon in my > chart > right beside the Sun (approximately 2 º apart), but the Sun sits in > Libra, > and therefore in debilitation. > > The Suns effect is weak due to debilitation, but does this condition > also > influence combustion. That is, will the Moon be less combusted due to > Sun's > debilitation? > > Looking forward to your kind reply. > > Thank you, > Rama R. > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Dear Mr. Kumar, Thank you for your reply. Please instruct how to verify for Neechabhanga. Thank you very much, Rama R. , zfiles@a... wrote: > Dear N, > > You have a big problem. Both are weak.. The Moon is weak in digit strength > and Sun is debilitated. Just see if the Sun has Neechabhanga > > > > G Kumar > www.e.com > > > - > nop61661 <nutrideias@n...> > <> > Tuesday, October 12, 2004 5:56 PM > Inquiry on combustion > > > > > Dear members, > > Could someone please help me clarify a doubt? I have the Moon in my > chart > right beside the Sun (approximately 2 º apart), but the Sun sits in > Libra, > and therefore in debilitation. > > The Suns effect is weak due to debilitation, but does this condition > also > influence combustion. That is, will the Moon be less combusted due to > Sun's > debilitation? > > Looking forward to your kind reply. > > Thank you, > Rama R. > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 My dear, It is no doubt true that a debilitated Sun in the 9th house can spoil the relation with father.Sun being 7th lord,its debilitation can affect married life too.However please keep in mind that for arriving at conclusions in astrology all the attendant factors have to be kept in mind.Like for marriage you will also have to consider the position by sign and house of the Karaka venus.The planet venus assumes importance in the case of relation with father too,it being the 9th lord.Besides,i am sure u r aware that the position of the planets from the chandra lagna also needs to be seen for arriving at the correct conclusions.In ur case the surya lagna and the chandra lagna being the same,this factor becomes all the more important.So for father u may see 9th hose from libra and for marriage the 7th from libra.Bye then RK nop61661 <nutrideias wrote: Dear Rup Krishen, Thank you very much for your kind reply. Your explanation is crystal clear, and now I have a better notion on combustion. Since the debilitated Sun is in the ninth house, which is primarily concerned with father and being Sun the karaka for father, is it correct to conclude that my relationship with father will be below satisfactory? I am still trying to learn how to read charts, and therefore, have some difficulties interpreting the planets and signs. The Sun is the lord of the 7th house, which signifies partners or wife. I do have a poor marital relationship. Can I take both of these readings as correct? Thank you for your help. Kind regards, Rama R. , Rup Krishen Baqaya <rkbaqaya> wrote: > My Dear, Combustion of a planet occurs on account of the proximity of the said planet to the Sun.The extent of combustion depends on the distance of the combusted planet from the Sun.Combustion of a planet other than the moon simply means that its rays are not visible, being overshadowed by the bright rays of the Sun.However the combustion of moon is a little different.Moon has no rays of its own and merely reflects the rays of the Sun. The combustion of moon thus means that it is not able to do its job of reflecting the rays of the Sun.It would be clear from the above that combustion has no relevance to the sign in which the Sun is placed.Combustion of moon in ur case will therefore not be more or less on account of the Sun's placement in libra.But let this not bother you.Like you there are millions of ppl born on amavasya day and some of them are doing very well in life. RK > > nop61661 <nutrideias@n...> wrote: > Dear members, > > Could someone please help me clarify a doubt? I have the Moon in my > chart > right beside the Sun (approximately 2 º apart), but the Sun sits in > Libra, > and therefore in debilitation. > > The Suns effect is weak due to debilitation, but does this condition > also > influence combustion. That is, will the Moon be less combusted due to > Sun's > debilitation? > > Looking forward to your kind reply. > > Thank you, > Rama R. > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 How about using this excellent opportunity as a learning exercise and do a bit of 'reverse engineering'? Only you truly know how your relationship has been with your father. What does that jive with in your horoscope? Be careful though because when it comes to parents, we often overreact, misinterpret, selectively remember (particularly when of certain age!) and see what you have. For most people, when they ask around, things like these, they invariably get different answers, particularly if they keep on asking on different lists from different people (that is the guaranteed part about internet astrology ;-)) So, take the bull by the horns and see if your real life matches your horoscope or at least this one factor. Keep in mind that since it is your horoscope, do not try to read too much of what happened in father's life but more like how you see him! Hope you see light ... RR , "nop61661" <nutrideias@n...> wrote: > > Dear Rup Krishen, > > Thank you very much for your kind reply. > Your explanation is crystal clear, and now I have a better notion on > combustion. > > Since the debilitated Sun is in the ninth house, which is primarily > concerned with father and being Sun the karaka for father, is it > correct to conclude that my relationship with father will be below > satisfactory? > > I am still trying to learn how to read charts, and therefore, have > some difficulties interpreting the planets and signs. The Sun is the > lord of the 7th house, which signifies partners or wife. I do have a > poor marital relationship. Can I take both of these readings as > correct? > > Thank you for your help. > > Kind regards, > Rama R. > > > > > > , Rup Krishen Baqaya > <rkbaqaya> wrote: > > My Dear, Combustion of a planet occurs on account of the > proximity of the said planet to the Sun.The extent of combustion > depends on the distance of the combusted planet from the > Sun.Combustion of a planet other than the moon simply means that its > rays are not visible, being overshadowed by the bright rays of the > Sun.However the combustion of moon is a little different.Moon has no > rays of its own and merely reflects the rays of the Sun. The > combustion of moon thus means that it is not able to do its job of > reflecting the rays of the Sun.It would be clear from the above that > combustion has no relevance to the sign in which the Sun is > placed.Combustion of moon in ur case will therefore not be more or > less on account of the Sun's placement in libra.But let this not > bother you.Like you there are millions of ppl born on amavasya day > and some of them are doing very well in life. RK > > > > nop61661 <nutrideias@n...> wrote: > > Dear members, > > > > Could someone please help me clarify a doubt? I have the Moon in my > > chart > > right beside the Sun (approximately 2 º apart), but the Sun sits in > > Libra, > > and therefore in debilitation. > > > > The Suns effect is weak due to debilitation, but does this > condition > > also > > influence combustion. That is, will the Moon be less combusted due > to > > Sun's > > debilitation? > > > > Looking forward to your kind reply. > > > > Thank you, > > Rama R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncan Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 My DOB is 20/11/1968, time 5.29 A.M . Place Of Birth Mavelikkara Kerala. The following is the prediction from One astrologer. What is Combustion of Moon. Will it really affect me as said? 2] Also Moon in lagna is combust, though there is Dharma-karmadhipati Rajyoga and the same should have given you promising position preferably administrative in your profession but it may suffer from Madhayaayu by way of compulsary or voluntary retirement before ur superannuation.<WBR>The reason is combustion of Moon.The same will also make you very impulsive & getting carried away while making decisions in your career.So take care here. [3] I suggest that you should wear diamond for ur all round benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Dear members, Could someone please help me clarify a doubt? I have the Moon in my chart right beside the Sun (approximately 2 º apart), but the Sun sits in Libra, and therefore in debilitation. The Suns effect is weak due to debilitation, but does this condition also influence combustion. That is, will the Moon be less combusted due to Sun's debilitation? Looking forward to your kind reply. Thank you, Rama R. The moon is never combust. This is a principle evident from any classical Jyotisha scripture. The nodes also do not combust. The debilitation or exaltation of the sun does not affect it's combusting effect on planets that are susceptible to combustion. When a planet is combust, it's external significations are destroyed, but it's internal significations are absorbed into the sun and made a strong part of the person's essential character. For example my Mars (lord of my 3rd and 11th and natural significator of siblings and competition/warfare & energy) is fairly seriously combust. I therefore have no brothers or sisters, and almost no friends. Yet the friends I do have are extremely good souls and extremely true frieds, but by this or that reason we are separated (mainly by distance). I also have no inclination for sports or competition or fighting. YET... I am a very friendly and brotherly person with a LOT of personal energy and ability to command and lead. This is an example of how combustion ruins the external significances of a planet but strengthens and internalizes the internal significations. ~~~~ Your moon is empty and your sun is debilitated, that is indeed another situation, but it does not pertain to combustion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V K Shridhar Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Dear Vic, Your statement that " The moon is never combust. This is a principle evident from any classical Jyotisha scripture. The nodes also do not combust. -- is not correct. I do not know which scripture you are referring to. Please quote any standard treatise on Hindu / Vedic astrology. As per Vedic astrology the Moon is considered combust when its longitude is within 12 degrees from that of the Sun. Further the Moon should be avoided three days before its combustion , and half day after it rises, for the purposes of electional (Muhurt) astrology. (However for the above said durations there are different opnions of the exponents, but there is unanimity about the combustion). For this refer to chapter 32 aphorism 13 of "Vasist Samhita" - an authoritative text in Electional astrology. ... V K Shridhar ------------------- http://www.besttime-election.com "Hindu Electional Astrology" - the largest compendium & best seller on Vedic astrology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 I think there's something wierd going on with threads in this forum. Because now your reply appears in a thread that it doesn't seem to belong in. Please state the source for your statement that the moon is combust when 12º of the sun. This is the amount I learned for Mercury retrograde. I was never taught that the moon combusts. This is because of the very nature of combustion itself. Astronomically combustion occurs when a planet is the furthest that a planet can get from earth. Thus it weakens. Furthermore the sun's brightness blots it out. This is not true for either the moon nor the nodes. Therefore they do not combust. However when the moon gets within a much wider degree of the sun she becomes malefic and looses most of her natural good qualities. It is a similar effect but not "combustion" Perhaps there are different rules for this in muhurta or in a school other thn mine? (parashari) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V K Shridhar Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Dear Vic, Please first check my reply in the thread " Planets' Rise/ set " started on 08-3-2008, where I had given the following reply. I had quoted "Vasist Samhita" in the above reply on 09-26-2008. Now you may quote any standard treatise or book on astronomy where combustion of the planets has been dealt with, to support your above arguements, especially regarding combustion of the Moon. ... V K Shridhar ======================================= Copy of the reply --------------------------- Anusha, First confusion is regarding Rising & Setting in the horizon : If you mean like Sun-rise & Sun-set timings. you can see details in ephemeris. Further about rising of a planet: it rises when its longitude is coinciding with the ascendant. About Sun-rise we take when it is half risen, and not when it is visible. Please study astronomy for this aspect in details. Set & Combustion : When a planet is not visible to the naked eye, being close to the Sun, it is called set or combust or Ashta. According to Indian astrology, a combust planet is the weakest & thus fails to give its effects. However western astrologers consider Cazimi (when the longitude of the Sun & the planet is the same – go to wikipedia for details) as a very powerful status for the planet. May log on to : http://www.srigaruda.com/wordpress/wp-content/astangata-asta.pdf to read a good article on combustion. Standard books give difference of degrees of the planets and that of the Sun, and also arc of combustion, when the specific planet becomes combust. But when you check Hindu ephemeris these are different. Reason being that the said longitudinal difference depends upon not only on the longitudes of the planet & the Sun but declination and latitude & longitude of the place from the planet is seen. So consider the starting & ending timings & dates from the ephemeris. This gives accurate date & time. In horoscopy, all the exponents consider that Combust planet is the least powerful. But some give exception to the Mercury. Some opine the planet loses its weakness (some-what) if it occupies Navamsha different from that of the Sun. Some exponents opine that when the Moon is combust (even when severely combust during New Moon day – or within 12 degrees from the Sun) it should not be understood that the native has no mind and all the adverse effects of the Moon shall prevail in his life. In Electional (Muhurt) astrology: Not only the duration when the planet is combust, the related auspicious activity should not be initiated but few days before it is set and for few days after it rises; the duration should be avoided. If the weekday lord is combust, the weekday must be shunned. for details on electional astrology may read book titled “Hindu Electional Astrology” http://www.besttime-election.com May also please go to wikipedia – electional astrology - Hindu vs Western electional astrology : where I have contributed to inform the world that Vedic system of electrional astrology is proven & time tested for 5 millennium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electional_Astrology In a forum like this full details can not be discussed but I feel enough guidelines are with you on the subject . .... V K Shridhar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 VK Shridhar, I stand corrected. Thank you! See. BPHS 7.28-29 I'm not sure if I will *practically* consider the moon combust, or simply dark and empty. But you are correct. Parashara says the moon is combust within 12 degrees of the sun. Thank you for your attention. - Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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