visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th placed jupiter fellows?

[Guest guest]

Dear Rahul Ji,

 

The rules you mentioned are not be applicable in many cases. It all

depends on what the 11th house is, it's Lord, Lord's placement,

whether Ju is a friend or a foe in this house, whether exalted or

debilitated etc. i.e. you need to see the implications of Ju being

thus placed in relation to the entire chart. This will give you a

quick picture - if you then want to go deeper, you should also

consider the aspects, the argalas, avasthas etc., and then go to the

dasa to see the practical effects of all this. So also, in your

previous posting re. Cancer and Leo ascendents, it is not true that

they always have unhappy marriages.

 

A suggestion: Study the qualities of each planet, each house and

each Rasi first. This will give you more insight, than trying to

learn unconnected rules, in MHO. Then try to put these together for

any given chart. The great classic, BHPS by Sage Parasara (you can

get it online on Tanvir ji's website) has everything you are looking

for.

 

venkatarama sreelatha

 

, "rahul_10uday"

<rahul_10uday> wrote:

>

> I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they

> are true?

>

> #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

people

> are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with

them

> since their past birth.

>

> #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

Saints,

> as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

>

> #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your

father

> and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies,

even

> the Devil

>

> Rahul

[Guest guest]

I have jupiter in 11th house in capricorn with 6 other planets. I just entered

jupiter mahadasa, and my income is doubled in my business.

 

Gurmeet

 

rahul_10uday <rahul_10uday wrote:

 

I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they

are true?

 

#If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such people

are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with them

since their past birth.

 

#If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from Saints,

as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

 

#If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your father

and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, even

the Devil

 

Rahul

 

 

 

 

 

~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

 

 

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[Guest guest]

The 11th stands for gains in general, though some insist that this

house only deals with material gains. Some, not all!

 

Jupiter is generally considered the preceptor, or teacher, elder

brother, gurujan (elders in general), the brahmin, priest, a judge

(ideally fair), spiritual values, etc.

 

So, by extension, putting all these together, some of the following

sayings may bear fruit.

 

However, that is the point where we must stop parroting disjointed

slokas and put our thinking cap on ... ;-)

 

Jupiter also represents other things in one's personal horoscope. It

has its roles and responsibilities as lord of certain houses, it also

has other karakattwas based on its chara karakttwa. It is not an

island in itself, so must also respond to and work with other planets

that it is associated with and is aspected by as well as its

nakshatra and rashi dispositor (let us leave other vargas aside for

now to avoid complexity).

 

Then, at any given time in life, it has to work with or maybe even

within the domain of the dasha lord, bhukti lord, transiting planets,

etc.

 

It is easy to see why any black and white statements like these and

others that have been floated around on topics like this must be

taken into consideration but not as final statements that will work

out in each and every or even most horoscopes.

 

Returning for a moment to the matter of 11th being a house of

material gain (but spiritual loss some say, because of their belief

that money cannot coexist with spirituality -- and this is borne out

by scriptures and even actual observation). However, that could be

because Jupiter though representing plenty or plentitude (as opposed

to saturn, for instance) also can pose challenges arising through

wealth. By giving plenty, it brings an opportunity into the

individual's life to use the blessings wisely, to do more good. Some

do, others don't. Some do it for a short while, others cannot even do

that. Thus, arises in such an individual's life an opportunity, a

window, sometimes brief, other times large, for exercising free-will,

for making some wise decisions. One may say that when saturn brings

its malefic influence, one's ability to exercise free-will is

curtailed, restricted and needs more efforts to overcome. On the

other hand, Jupiter like a benefic teacher, unlike the stern and

forceful saturn teacher, showers its gifts and then does not force

one into action. The outcome of either situation is the same, namely,

when you had the chance to drive, where did you take the KAR(ma) of

the soul to?

 

Mind you, not all individuals with jupiter in 11 would experience all

these things because like the sun which comes out for everyone daily,

not everyone gains or suffers the same.

 

Also, remember that in ashtakavarga, the 11th place has a special

advantage, again indicating that the 11th is not an evil place as

some make it out to be. It is however, a place of plenty that can

lead to challenges. A hungry man cannot think ereadily of giving

charity, but a well-fed man has the choice to be greedy and selfish

or to share.

 

RR

 

 

, "rahul_10uday"

<rahul_10uday> wrote:

>

> I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they

> are true?

>

> #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

people

> are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with

them

> since their past birth.

>

> #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

Saints,

> as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

>

> #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your

father

> and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies,

even

> the Devil

>

> Rahul

[Guest guest]

Dear Rahul

 

Swami Vivekananda has 11th house Jupiter. He went to a great Saint

Ramakrishna, Vivekananda stayed with his father, till his abrupt

death just before his marriage.

You tell me,whether he should have continued with his father's huge

property and become a kingly person, or was his decision to be with

a "saint" giving him the real "raja yoga" correct one.

 

best wishes

partha

 

 

, "V. Sreelatha"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

>

> Dear Rahul Ji,

>

> The rules you mentioned are not be applicable in many cases. It all

> depends on what the 11th house is, it's Lord, Lord's placement,

> whether Ju is a friend or a foe in this house, whether exalted or

> debilitated etc. i.e. you need to see the implications of Ju being

> thus placed in relation to the entire chart. This will give you a

> quick picture - if you then want to go deeper, you should also

> consider the aspects, the argalas, avasthas etc., and then go to

the

> dasa to see the practical effects of all this. So also, in your

> previous posting re. Cancer and Leo ascendents, it is not true that

> they always have unhappy marriages.

>

> A suggestion: Study the qualities of each planet, each house and

> each Rasi first. This will give you more insight, than trying to

> learn unconnected rules, in MHO. Then try to put these together for

> any given chart. The great classic, BHPS by Sage Parasara (you can

> get it online on Tanvir ji's website) has everything you are

looking

> for.

>

> venkatarama sreelatha

>

> , "rahul_10uday"

> <rahul_10uday> wrote:

> >

> > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far

they

> > are true?

> >

> > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

> people

> > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with

> them

> > since their past birth.

> >

> > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

> Saints,

> > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> >

> > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your

> father

> > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies,

> even

> > the Devil

> >

> > Rahul