Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Dear inder, Because astrologically, my janamkundali is very rare so I am very frankly without an iota of falsehood sharing many things of personal interest with my fellow astrologers so that You can analyse and conclude something about saptagrahi janamkundali.It is really a challenge before world of astrologers because nothing voluminous has been said about such planetary combination. I have read tons of ancient astrological literature over it but no clear answer has sought so far. I have interests in spiritualism with a tone of rebellion because i don't take something orthodox and superstitious at its face value. I have logical and scientific bend of mind. I am hesitant, introvert, reluctant to exhibit my talent. I consider it merchandising. I have deep desire to go a professional astrologer and to provide paid astrological services. Whether I can choose astrology as my profession in Jupter/ Mercury Vimsottari dasa system.? As you said that i must have sexual encounters, I have never made extramarital sexual encounters and I don'desire at all to go in this direction. I am not miser in strict sense but I don't spend money on my relatives so they brand me as miser. I nerve try to clarify my stand.This makes me uncomfortable in expanding my emotional sphere. I have come across many despairs which is usual in this world but success has never been easy for me.I previous letters i have mentioned about my qualifications bu these qualification have never given me a honourable job.It is th only grudge in my life. B Inder <indervohra2001 wrote: Dear friends, seven planets in Capricorn is very interesting chart to study as that of Gurumeet. I have made a quick analysis with KP system, where we take houses from cusp to cusp, and for any house cusp lord and star lord are also considered with the sign/bhava lord. In this chart,Ven is sub lord of ascendent which is in Moon's star, and Moon being in 4th cusp in Virgo gives to the native a virgoin temprament.[in gurudeep's case it was Moon in Sagi] Perfectionist, chatty, learned, intelligent and thinking. Moon in 4th virgo and 8th house planets shows his inclination for various occult study and of astrology. Several secret and mixed up situations and learnings, and sprituality. Venus rising at various cusps and Moon in virgo and 8th house planets also show several sexual encounters. [there was a similar 4th house Virgo case given by Vasvani in this group where the native was in Osho ashram with sex and sprituality] As in Gurudeep case Mars is in Capricorn but is in 7th house, giving him a chance to travel foregn land, but as per my judgement he may not be able to stay there for long duration as 9th house is not good here and Moon is in 4th , Rahu also signifies Moon as it is in Cancer.[ I hope my judgement proves wrong]. So many planets in 8th house is unhappy miserable position with several failures in life and lot of misery. This is sort of a Sanyasi's chart if happiness and misery are not considered. There is danger of serious accident with several people involved and native himself to some extent involved in creating the accident situation.[i wish this to be not correcrt] Native will master deep metaphysical and occult subjects and willl have interaction with cross-section of variety of people. I Wish him all the best. Inder -- In , "Gili Mary" <xapsarax@h...> wrote: > Dear Pankaj, > Thank you. I have changed your chart, see attached, (I assume you have > JHora Lite - if not, download it - it is free and very good)) I will give > you my thoughts on your chart when they have simmered over in my mind. I am > not much good at prediction, however, as I'm more interested in the > spiritual side and why we do what we do! I hoped to give you some ideas for > looking at your own chart. You must have noticed my mistake. I should have > said 2/8 axis. Either I'm suffering from premature senility or faulty > keyboard skills )) Anyway forgive me. > Love, > Gili > > >pankaj sharma <astrologerpankaj> > > > > > >Re: 7 panets in 8H > >Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:58:37 +0100 (BST) > > > >dear gili, > >Raphuraphul, my birthplace is located on30N17 and 75E12. > >I would appreciate if u devote some time to my BH due to obviouly > >researching reasons. I am ready to cooperate you in every respect. > >Thanks > >Pankaj Sharma > > _______________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Sponsor Will you help a needy child? ·It only costs .60¢ a day · It's easier than you think.·Click here to meet a waiting child you can sponsor now. / India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Pankaj, did you get my email about saturn? And other things? RR , pankaj sharma <astrologerpankaj> wrote: > Dear inder, > Because astrologically, my janamkundali is very rare so I am very frankly without an iota of falsehood sharing many things of personal interest with my fellow astrologers so that You can analyse and conclude something about saptagrahi janamkundali.It is really a challenge before world of astrologers because nothing voluminous has been said about such planetary combination. I have read tons of ancient astrological literature over it but no clear answer has sought so far. > I have interests in spiritualism with a tone of rebellion because i don't take something orthodox and superstitious at its face value. I have logical and scientific bend of mind. I am hesitant, introvert, reluctant to exhibit my talent. I consider it merchandising. I have deep desire to go a professional astrologer and to provide paid astrological services. Whether I can choose astrology as my profession in Jupter/ Mercury Vimsottari dasa system.? > As you said that i must have sexual encounters, I have never made extramarital sexual encounters and I don'desire at all to go in this direction. > I am not miser in strict sense but I don't spend money on my relatives so they brand me as miser. I nerve try to clarify my stand.This makes me uncomfortable in expanding my emotional sphere. I have come across many despairs which is usual in this world but success has never been easy for me.I previous letters i have mentioned about my qualifications bu these qualification have never given me a honourable job.It is th only grudge in my life. > > B > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > Dear friends, > seven planets in Capricorn is very interesting chart to study as > that of Gurumeet. > > I have made a quick analysis with KP system, where we take houses > from cusp to cusp, and for any house cusp lord and star lord are > also considered with the sign/bhava lord. > > In this chart,Ven is sub lord of ascendent which is in Moon's star, > and Moon being in 4th cusp in Virgo gives to the native a virgoin > temprament.[in gurudeep's case it was Moon in Sagi] Perfectionist, > chatty, learned, intelligent and thinking. > > Moon in 4th virgo and 8th house planets shows his inclination for > various occult study and of astrology. Several secret and mixed up > situations and learnings, and sprituality. > > Venus rising at various cusps and Moon in virgo and 8th house > planets also show several sexual encounters. > [there was a similar 4th house Virgo case given by Vasvani in this > group where the native was in Osho ashram with sex and sprituality] > > As in Gurudeep case Mars is in Capricorn but is in 7th house, giving > him a chance to travel foregn land, but as per my judgement he may > not be able to stay there for long duration as 9th house is not good > here and Moon is in 4th , Rahu also signifies Moon as it is in > Cancer.[ I hope my judgement proves wrong]. > > So many planets in 8th house is unhappy miserable position with > several failures in life and lot of misery. This is sort of a > Sanyasi's chart if happiness and misery are not considered. > > There is danger of serious accident with several people involved and > native himself to some extent involved in creating the accident > situation.[i wish this to be not correcrt] > > Native will master deep metaphysical and occult subjects and willl > have interaction with cross-section of variety of people. > > I Wish him all the best. > Inder > > > -- In , "Gili Mary" <xapsarax@h...> > wrote: > > Dear Pankaj, > > Thank you. I have changed your chart, see attached, (I assume you > have > > JHora Lite - if not, download it - it is free and very good)) I > will give > > you my thoughts on your chart when they have simmered over in my > mind. I am > > not much good at prediction, however, as I'm more interested in > the > > spiritual side and why we do what we do! I hoped to give you some > ideas for > > looking at your own chart. You must have noticed my mistake. I > should have > > said 2/8 axis. Either I'm suffering from premature senility or > faulty > > keyboard skills )) Anyway forgive me. > > Love, > > Gili > > > > >pankaj sharma <astrologerpankaj> > > > > > > > > >Re: 7 panets in 8H > > >Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:58:37 +0100 (BST) > > > > > >dear gili, > > >Raphuraphul, my birthplace is located on30N17 and 75E12. > > >I would appreciate if u devote some time to my BH due to obviouly > > >researching reasons. I am ready to cooperate you in every respect. > > >Thanks > > >Pankaj Sharma > > > > _______________ > > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Dear Pankaj, It is not that Yogas for combination of many planets are not given in text books. But mostly, as per my observations these Yogas etc are not workable. For combination of more than 5 planets in a house close to each other it is mentioned that such combination makes native to leave house and become Sanyasi/bhikshu.[pravrajya yoga]. Depending upon the strongest among these planets , the native will lead his life: Sun :Tapasvi, Moon:Kapali Mars: Lingi Sanyasi, Mercury: Dandi sanyasi Jupiter: Yati, Tapasvi Venus: Nartya,kala life Saturn:Nanga Sanyasi/Vivasi Many planets very close: Daridri and foolish. Some other places various yogas for combinations are mentioned, for example Sun+Mer+Jup+Venus+Sat : religious, friendship,knowledge of many shastra, kind hearted and liked by Guru and friends. or Sun+Mars+Mer+Venus+jup+Sat :one without money and material, without female and son, visits holy places, learns skills, and learned. These Yogas does not tell regarding house or Rasi placements. So we can not apply these Yogas. I saw your chart with fundamental princilples of Kp. May be thousands of such natives are in bad conditions living a miserable life and we dont know about them. Two of the most lucky one are Gurudeep and Pankaj[with some minute great points of benefits in their chart] who are present in this group to tell their story. Inder -- In , pankaj sharma <astrologerpankaj> wrote: > Dear inder, > Because astrologically, my janamkundali is very rare so I am very frankly without an iota of falsehood sharing many things of personal interest with my fellow astrologers so that You can analyse and conclude something about saptagrahi janamkundali.It is really a challenge before world of astrologers because nothing voluminous has been said about such planetary combination. I have read tons of ancient astrological literature over it but no clear answer has sought so far. > I have interests in spiritualism with a tone of rebellion because i don't take something orthodox and superstitious at its face value. I have logical and scientific bend of mind. I am hesitant, introvert, reluctant to exhibit my talent. I consider it merchandising. I have deep desire to go a professional astrologer and to provide paid astrological services. Whether I can choose astrology as my profession in Jupter/ Mercury Vimsottari dasa system.? > As you said that i must have sexual encounters, I have never made extramarital sexual encounters and I don'desire at all to go in this direction. > I am not miser in strict sense but I don't spend money on my relatives so they brand me as miser. I nerve try to clarify my stand.This makes me uncomfortable in expanding my emotional sphere. I have come across many despairs which is usual in this world but success has never been easy for me.I previous letters i have mentioned about my qualifications bu these qualification have never given me a honourable job.It is th only grudge in my life. > > B > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > Dear friends, > seven planets in Capricorn is very interesting chart to study as > that of Gurumeet. > > I have made a quick analysis with KP system, where we take houses > from cusp to cusp, and for any house cusp lord and star lord are > also considered with the sign/bhava lord. > > In this chart,Ven is sub lord of ascendent which is in Moon's star, > and Moon being in 4th cusp in Virgo gives to the native a virgoin > temprament.[in gurudeep's case it was Moon in Sagi] Perfectionist, > chatty, learned, intelligent and thinking. > > Moon in 4th virgo and 8th house planets shows his inclination for > various occult study and of astrology. Several secret and mixed up > situations and learnings, and sprituality. > > Venus rising at various cusps and Moon in virgo and 8th house > planets also show several sexual encounters. > [there was a similar 4th house Virgo case given by Vasvani in this > group where the native was in Osho ashram with sex and sprituality] > > As in Gurudeep case Mars is in Capricorn but is in 7th house, giving > him a chance to travel foregn land, but as per my judgement he may > not be able to stay there for long duration as 9th house is not good > here and Moon is in 4th , Rahu also signifies Moon as it is in > Cancer.[ I hope my judgement proves wrong]. > > So many planets in 8th house is unhappy miserable position with > several failures in life and lot of misery. This is sort of a > Sanyasi's chart if happiness and misery are not considered. > > There is danger of serious accident with several people involved and > native himself to some extent involved in creating the accident > situation.[i wish this to be not correcrt] > > Native will master deep metaphysical and occult subjects and willl > have interaction with cross-section of variety of people. > > I Wish him all the best. > Inder > > > -- In , "Gili Mary" <xapsarax@h...> > wrote: > > Dear Pankaj, > > Thank you. I have changed your chart, see attached, (I assume you > have > > JHora Lite - if not, download it - it is free and very good)) I > will give > > you my thoughts on your chart when they have simmered over in my > mind. I am > > not much good at prediction, however, as I'm more interested in > the > > spiritual side and why we do what we do! I hoped to give you some > ideas for > > looking at your own chart. You must have noticed my mistake. I > should have > > said 2/8 axis. Either I'm suffering from premature senility or > faulty > > keyboard skills )) Anyway forgive me. > > Love, > > Gili > > > > >pankaj sharma <astrologerpankaj> > > > > > > > > >Re: 7 panets in 8H > > >Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:58:37 +0100 (BST) > > > > > >dear gili, > > >Raphuraphul, my birthplace is located on30N17 and 75E12. > > >I would appreciate if u devote some time to my BH due to obviouly > > >researching reasons. I am ready to cooperate you in every respect. > > >Thanks > > >Pankaj Sharma > > > > _______________ > > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Thank you, Inder! It is futile to even expect that everything that has been passed to us through all these generations of oral transmission and hardly anything recorded in black and white or sandstone, or granite holds a true replica of the original thought, particularly since much of what we have was written down in the kaliyuga as most (other than Yukteshwar's followers) believe kaliyuga to be. So, everything must be reexamined, including ashtakavarga that is kind of accepted as being directed towards the kaliyuga. One jyotishi- scientist that I have great faith in has recently written to me out of the blue about this, confirming some of my earlier voiced suspicions and regardless of the outcome, I think this reaffirms my original belief. Perfection does not bring the universe into action in the scale that we have recently witnessed in jyotish. After all, has the rainbow changed over the last many millions of years? Has gravitation hesitated over the millennia that it existed and above all, has light? As particles and waves?? Light has a very deep arcane and religious (all religions!) meaning, as does sun in astrology. RR , "Inder" <indervohra2001> wrote: > > Dear Pankaj, > It is not that Yogas for combination of many planets are not given > in text books. But mostly, as per my observations these Yogas etc > are not workable. For combination of more than 5 planets in a house > close to each other it is mentioned that such combination makes > native to leave house and become Sanyasi/bhikshu.[pravrajya yoga]. > Depending upon the strongest among these planets , the native will > lead his life: > Sun :Tapasvi, > Moon:Kapali > Mars: Lingi Sanyasi, > Mercury: Dandi sanyasi > Jupiter: Yati, Tapasvi > Venus: Nartya,kala life > Saturn:Nanga Sanyasi/Vivasi > Many planets very close: Daridri and foolish. > > Some other places various yogas for combinations are mentioned, for > example > Sun+Mer+Jup+Venus+Sat : religious, friendship,knowledge of many > shastra, kind hearted and liked by Guru and friends. > > or > > Sun+Mars+Mer+Venus+jup+Sat :one without money and material, without > female and son, visits holy places, learns skills, and learned. > These Yogas does not tell regarding house or Rasi placements. > > So we can not apply these Yogas. I saw your chart with fundamental > princilples of Kp. > > May be thousands of such natives are in bad conditions living a > miserable life and we dont know about them. Two of the most lucky > one are Gurudeep and Pankaj[with some minute great points of > benefits in their chart] who are present in this group to tell their > story. > Inder > > > -- In , pankaj sharma > <astrologerpankaj> wrote: > > Dear inder, > > Because astrologically, my janamkundali is very rare so I am very > frankly without an iota of falsehood sharing many things of > personal interest with my fellow astrologers so that You can analyse > and conclude something about saptagrahi janamkundali.It is really a > challenge before world of astrologers because nothing voluminous has > been said about such planetary combination. I have read tons of > ancient astrological literature over it but no clear answer has > sought so far. > > I have interests in spiritualism with a tone of rebellion because > i don't take something orthodox and superstitious at its face value. > I have logical and scientific bend of mind. I am hesitant, > introvert, reluctant to exhibit my talent. I consider it > merchandising. I have deep desire to go a professional astrologer > and to provide paid astrological services. Whether I can choose > astrology as my profession in Jupter/ Mercury Vimsottari dasa > system.? > > As you said that i must have sexual encounters, I have never made > extramarital sexual encounters and I don'desire at all to go in this > direction. > > I am not miser in strict sense but I don't spend money on my > relatives so they brand me as miser. I nerve try to clarify my > stand.This makes me uncomfortable in expanding my emotional sphere. > I have come across many despairs which is usual in this world but > success has never been easy for me.I previous letters i have > mentioned about my qualifications bu these qualification have never > given me a honourable job.It is th only grudge in my life. > > > > B > > > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > seven planets in Capricorn is very interesting chart to study as > > that of Gurumeet. > > > > I have made a quick analysis with KP system, where we take houses > > from cusp to cusp, and for any house cusp lord and star lord are > > also considered with the sign/bhava lord. > > > > In this chart,Ven is sub lord of ascendent which is in Moon's > star, > > and Moon being in 4th cusp in Virgo gives to the native a virgoin > > temprament.[in gurudeep's case it was Moon in Sagi] Perfectionist, > > chatty, learned, intelligent and thinking. > > > > Moon in 4th virgo and 8th house planets shows his inclination for > > various occult study and of astrology. Several secret and mixed up > > situations and learnings, and sprituality. > > > > Venus rising at various cusps and Moon in virgo and 8th house > > planets also show several sexual encounters. > > [there was a similar 4th house Virgo case given by Vasvani in this > > group where the native was in Osho ashram with sex and sprituality] > > > > As in Gurudeep case Mars is in Capricorn but is in 7th house, > giving > > him a chance to travel foregn land, but as per my judgement he may > > not be able to stay there for long duration as 9th house is not > good > > here and Moon is in 4th , Rahu also signifies Moon as it is in > > Cancer.[ I hope my judgement proves wrong]. > > > > So many planets in 8th house is unhappy miserable position with > > several failures in life and lot of misery. This is sort of a > > Sanyasi's chart if happiness and misery are not considered. > > > > There is danger of serious accident with several people involved > and > > native himself to some extent involved in creating the accident > > situation.[i wish this to be not correcrt] > > > > Native will master deep metaphysical and occult subjects and willl > > have interaction with cross-section of variety of people. > > > > I Wish him all the best. > > Inder > > > > > > -- In , "Gili Mary" > <xapsarax@h...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Pankaj, > > > Thank you. I have changed your chart, see attached, (I assume > you > > have > > > JHora Lite - if not, download it - it is free and very good)) I > > will give > > > you my thoughts on your chart when they have simmered over in my > > mind. I am > > > not much good at prediction, however, as I'm more interested in > > the > > > spiritual side and why we do what we do! I hoped to give you > some > > ideas for > > > looking at your own chart. You must have noticed my mistake. I > > should have > > > said 2/8 axis. Either I'm suffering from premature senility or > > faulty > > > keyboard skills )) Anyway forgive me. > > > Love, > > > Gili > > > > > > >pankaj sharma <astrologerpankaj> > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: 7 panets in 8H > > > >Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:58:37 +0100 (BST) > > > > > > > >dear gili, > > > >Raphuraphul, my birthplace is located on30N17 and 75E12. > > > >I would appreciate if u devote some time to my BH due to > obviouly > > > >researching reasons. I am ready to cooperate you in every > respect. > > > >Thanks > > > >Pankaj Sharma > > > > > > _______________ > > > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > > > Sponsor > > Will you help a needy child? > > ·It only costs .60¢ a day · It's easier than you think.·Click here > to meet a waiting child you can sponsor now. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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