To-Kad Rudra ji -Balaji Narasimhan -Narasimha mantra...

[Guest guest]

Dear Balaji Narasimhan, Kad Rudra and all,

 

I can tell a true story about Lord Narisimhadev – a friend of mine

also is a friend of the girl who experienced the miracle with Lord

Nrisimhadev.

 

But first a humble opinion to below statement on reading Mahabharata

at home…

 

> There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between brothers!

 

Hearing this makes me very angry!

And I think this is righteous. Mahabharata WAS written for we people

of the kali yug can read. Especially at home. This is what will keep

the family together!

Only a fool can make such a statement.

 

Now allow me to tell a true story that happened some 10 years ago in

South-Africa. The father and the daughter who experienced this event

told this story to my friend, a sannyasi and devotee of Lord

Nrisimhadev.

 

This stories was also found in the newspapers, and several witnesses

of this truck-accident after this incident became devotees of Lord

Nrisimhadev.

 

This happened to a simple Vaishnav family that lives there. They had

a back then 5 years old daughter. This girl was a great `fan' of

Nrisimhadev – she found Him simply funny, as he looked half lion

half man and felt very attracted to Him.

 

She often told her playmates about her favorite God, a lion – and

the kids always wondered about what of God this could be… a lion

 

What can a five years old girl know about God, she wasn't initiated,

not even her parents, as far as I can remember.

The father of the family followed a guru and surely later accepted

initiation. But there was a small Hindu-community they were in close

touch with.

 

So, one day the girl was playing outside with her ball together with

other kids, beside the street. The ball, how else could it be, fell

on the street, and the girl ran after her precious ball. There was

nearly no traffic, a rarely used country road. But this time a very

fast truck came running down the road. The girl in her play didn't

see the truck coming.

The father was in the first floor of the house and saw his baby girl

running on the street – but he also saw the huge truck coming down,

closer to his daughter with huge speed. The father yelled at her,

but she didn't hear him. So he jumped out of the window of this

first floor to save his daughter, and broke both his legs, when

coming down, and remained laying on the ground in pain.

 

He had to watch how his little girl was hit by the truck and thrown

through the air, some 20meter away.

All children and neighbors around who observed this froze the blood.

The father later said his only desire when he saw this was to die.

>From the other direction came a police car that also witnessed the

accident. The truck went on and the policeman stopped his car across

the street to stop him. The truck-driver hardly stopped his truck

and he seemed to be very drunk.

 

The policeman immediately called the ambulance and ran over to the

motionless laying girl in the grass.

 

The closest hospital was a small private clinic and the ambulance

came, but refused to take the girl, being afraid they wouldn't have

the necessary devices and machines to help the injuries the girl

must have. They advised the policeman to call the main hospital, as

only they could efficiently help her, as her spine must be broken,

etc.

 

The policeman was in despair, not even knowing where the father of

the girl was. Actually he didn't even know if the girl was still

alive, as he didn't dare to touch her, not knowing how injured she

was.

 

However, in the end she was brought to a right hospital, the

policeman accompanied the girl, and also finally the father there.

 

The chief-doctor heard then what has happened to the girl, and they

immediately x-rayed her to see first results. The policeman wanted

to rest assured how the girl was doing, and waited there to see the

results.

Everybody was shocked to hear what terrific accident had happened to

the girl.

So the nurse brought the x-ray pictures to the doctor, who became

very upset and started yelling at the nurse she should for-God's-

sake bring the right pictures, things were about death and life. He

threatened to fire her, as it was unacceptable to make such

mistakes.

The nurse was scared and didn't understand what was happening. Those

were the pictures of the five year old girl that was hit by the

truck. The nurse wasn't aware yet of what had happened to the girl.

 

The doc said this cannot be – on the x-ray there was not a single

broken bone. So, the doc all the time again and again

repeated `impossible – can't be'.

 

Then suddenly the girl awoke from her faint and then told a story at

ful consciousness which made its tour through the media.

 

In the moment she picked up the ball from the street, she saw the

truck coming up to her. And the only thing she could do was to yell

out for help. She didn't call for mommy or daddy, but for her

Nrisimhadev. In this moment when the truck should hit her, she

suddenly saw how Nrisimhadev picked her up from the ground, smiled

at her, and said, `don't be afraid, nothing will happen to you'.

The girl continued her story that the Lord had put her on the other

side of the street into the grass. But when putting her down, He

accidentally scratched her waist, which still hurt her a bit.

 

She spoke about how beautiful Nrisimhadev was, His hair, His eyes,

etc. But his claws were very sharp, He should cut them… he wore a

golden dhotie, etc. The doctor didn't understand anything and told

the policeman she still was in shock and hallucinated, which is

normal.

 

So, the girl was profoundly checked for any injuries, but the only

injury they found on her body were those scratches and the doctor

said this must be from a wild animal like a lion, as he had cases

like this before. So, he was disturbed and asked if they had brought

the girl to hospital as this one was inured by a wild animal, not a

truck…

Nobody was clear what had happened. The same doctor and the nurse

who took care of her later became devotees, as they later learned

from the parent who `that lion' was.

 

As we can see miracle still today happen. Not only in Mahabharata,

Puranas or shastras that are more than thousands of years old. The

little girl was very attracted to this form of God, and in her

despair she called Him for help. Lord Nrisimhadev did not look if

she was initiated and have the right to call His name He protects

His devotees, that sincerely worship Him in their hearts.

 

I am sure this litte girl was no common soul, who knows what she did

in her previous life. The sannyasi heard that she very much liked to

eat sweets, and prepared a big plate ful of sweets for her to rest

assured she will not be able to eat it all up. He gave her the

mounted plate of sweets, she took some of the sweets and ran out

playing with her friends.

As soon as she was gone of the room, the sannyasi went over that

plate and took the rest, as for him, this was the best maha-prasad

available! Who last time has met Lord Nrisimhadev? Narada Muni

maybe?? The girl for sure, and she must be a great soul.

 

Let's chant the holy names of the Lord, no matter which incarnation

and being initiated or not. Which counts is bhakti – the love to the

Lord, and sincerity in the heart.

On the other hand, if sincere in spiritual life, one should not

hesitate taking initiation – this is very important for making

spiritual progress. Because only under the guidance of a sadhu one

can reach God and return to His abode, the transcendental world.

 

And KAD is right, there are plenty mantras, we can NOT chant WITHOUT

initiation, even Brahmin initiation. Which does not mean we cannot

chant any holy names or worship God without initiation – everybody

must make a start before taking initiation.

 

Kindest regards,

Shad

 

 

 

, Balaji Narasimhan

<sherlockbalaji> wrote:

> Kad Rudra ji,

>

> There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between brothers!

>

> There is one thing about Vishnu's names - even when chanted

> wrongly, they give results. There is the story of a guy who

> chanted "Mara Prabhu" (Wood God) instead of "Amara Prabhu"

> (Eternal God). Vishnu was still pleased because, in

> Naimisaranyam, He lives as a forest.

>

> Narasimha too, I have heard so many things - but, end of the

> day, based on personal experience, I have found nobody else to

> be as helpful. Not Srinivasa, not Rama, not Krishna.

>

> I usually just request people to pray to God, and never mention

> any mantras by name. However, Kavita ji was talking of something

> critical happening to her son. The Narasimha Mantra I mentioned

> talks also about Narasimha being the death of death. This is the

> principal reason why I suggested this specific mantra.

>

> Incidentally, I learnt this Mantra all by myself. I recite it

> for around two hours every day - while driving my bike to office

> and back home. Countless times, I have escaped accidents in the

> nick of time, and though the chant begins with "Ugram" (Anger),

> I have also controlled my anger with this mantra.

>

> I think that, beyond initiation by a Guru, etc, which is

> actually the right way, it is important that we have full faith.

> I learnt this Mantra by myself, but my faith in this mantra is

> immense, and maybe this is what is protecting me!

>

> Swami Desika, one of the seers whom I worship, says that it is

> only other animals that fear the lion. The cubs of the lion

> don't fear it, and, on the contrary, depend upon it for

> protection. Narasimha too is defined as having one eye like

> Surya, which looked with fury upon Hiranyakashipu, while the

> other eye, which gazed tenderly upon Prahalada, was pleasant

> like Chandra.

>

> Also, I belong to the Ahobilam Mutt. In Ahobilam, a Nava

> Narasimha Kshetra, the nine forms of Narasimha are propitated to

> get rid of afflictions due to the Nava Grahas. The Nava Grahas

> themselves are supposed to have worshipped Narasimha to rid

> themselves of their afflictions!

>

> End of the day, faith in the mantra is perhaps greater than the

> mantra itself!

>

>

> =====

> Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm

> Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs

> Editor, The Partial Art of Detection

> =====

>

>

>

>

>

> Check out the new Front Page.

> www.

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Dear all,

 

Can you give me the meaning of the Narasimha Manra.. We would like

to chant it for the well being of my son but know the meaning too ..

 

Thanks

 

Kavitha

 

 

, "Shad" <waterpowers>

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Balaji Narasimhan, Kad Rudra and all,

>

> I can tell a true story about Lord Narisimhadev – a friend of mine

> also is a friend of the girl who experienced the miracle with Lord

> Nrisimhadev.

>

> But first a humble opinion to below statement on reading

Mahabharata

> at home…

>

> > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between brothers!

>

> Hearing this makes me very angry!

> And I think this is righteous. Mahabharata WAS written for we

people

> of the kali yug can read. Especially at home. This is what will

keep

> the family together!

> Only a fool can make such a statement.

>

> Now allow me to tell a true story that happened some 10 years ago

in

> South-Africa. The father and the daughter who experienced this

event

> told this story to my friend, a sannyasi and devotee of Lord

> Nrisimhadev.

>

> This stories was also found in the newspapers, and several

witnesses

> of this truck-accident after this incident became devotees of Lord

> Nrisimhadev.

>

> This happened to a simple Vaishnav family that lives there. They

had

> a back then 5 years old daughter. This girl was a great `fan' of

> Nrisimhadev – she found Him simply funny, as he looked half lion

> half man and felt very attracted to Him.

>

> She often told her playmates about her favorite God, a lion – and

> the kids always wondered about what of God this could be… a lion

>

> What can a five years old girl know about God, she wasn't

initiated,

> not even her parents, as far as I can remember.

> The father of the family followed a guru and surely later accepted

> initiation. But there was a small Hindu-community they were in

close

> touch with.

>

> So, one day the girl was playing outside with her ball together

with

> other kids, beside the street. The ball, how else could it be,

fell

> on the street, and the girl ran after her precious ball. There was

> nearly no traffic, a rarely used country road. But this time a

very

> fast truck came running down the road. The girl in her play didn't

> see the truck coming.

> The father was in the first floor of the house and saw his baby

girl

> running on the street – but he also saw the huge truck coming

down,

> closer to his daughter with huge speed. The father yelled at her,

> but she didn't hear him. So he jumped out of the window of this

> first floor to save his daughter, and broke both his legs, when

> coming down, and remained laying on the ground in pain.

>

> He had to watch how his little girl was hit by the truck and

thrown

> through the air, some 20meter away.

> All children and neighbors around who observed this froze the

blood.

> The father later said his only desire when he saw this was to die.

> From the other direction came a police car that also witnessed the

> accident. The truck went on and the policeman stopped his car

across

> the street to stop him. The truck-driver hardly stopped his truck

> and he seemed to be very drunk.

>

> The policeman immediately called the ambulance and ran over to the

> motionless laying girl in the grass.

>

> The closest hospital was a small private clinic and the ambulance

> came, but refused to take the girl, being afraid they wouldn't

have

> the necessary devices and machines to help the injuries the girl

> must have. They advised the policeman to call the main hospital,

as

> only they could efficiently help her, as her spine must be broken,

> etc.

>

> The policeman was in despair, not even knowing where the father of

> the girl was. Actually he didn't even know if the girl was still

> alive, as he didn't dare to touch her, not knowing how injured she

> was.

>

> However, in the end she was brought to a right hospital, the

> policeman accompanied the girl, and also finally the father

there.

>

> The chief-doctor heard then what has happened to the girl, and

they

> immediately x-rayed her to see first results. The policeman wanted

> to rest assured how the girl was doing, and waited there to see

the

> results.

> Everybody was shocked to hear what terrific accident had happened

to

> the girl.

> So the nurse brought the x-ray pictures to the doctor, who became

> very upset and started yelling at the nurse she should for-God's-

> sake bring the right pictures, things were about death and life.

He

> threatened to fire her, as it was unacceptable to make such

> mistakes.

> The nurse was scared and didn't understand what was happening.

Those

> were the pictures of the five year old girl that was hit by the

> truck. The nurse wasn't aware yet of what had happened to the

girl.

>

> The doc said this cannot be – on the x-ray there was not a single

> broken bone. So, the doc all the time again and again

> repeated `impossible – can't be'.

>

> Then suddenly the girl awoke from her faint and then told a story

at

> ful consciousness which made its tour through the media.

>

> In the moment she picked up the ball from the street, she saw the

> truck coming up to her. And the only thing she could do was to

yell

> out for help. She didn't call for mommy or daddy, but for her

> Nrisimhadev. In this moment when the truck should hit her, she

> suddenly saw how Nrisimhadev picked her up from the ground, smiled

> at her, and said, `don't be afraid, nothing will happen to you'.

> The girl continued her story that the Lord had put her on the

other

> side of the street into the grass. But when putting her down, He

> accidentally scratched her waist, which still hurt her a bit.

>

> She spoke about how beautiful Nrisimhadev was, His hair, His eyes,

> etc. But his claws were very sharp, He should cut them… he wore a

> golden dhotie, etc. The doctor didn't understand anything and told

> the policeman she still was in shock and hallucinated, which is

> normal.

>

> So, the girl was profoundly checked for any injuries, but the only

> injury they found on her body were those scratches and the doctor

> said this must be from a wild animal like a lion, as he had cases

> like this before. So, he was disturbed and asked if they had

brought

> the girl to hospital as this one was inured by a wild animal, not

a

> truck…

> Nobody was clear what had happened. The same doctor and the nurse

> who took care of her later became devotees, as they later learned

> from the parent who `that lion' was.

>

> As we can see miracle still today happen. Not only in Mahabharata,

> Puranas or shastras that are more than thousands of years old. The

> little girl was very attracted to this form of God, and in her

> despair she called Him for help. Lord Nrisimhadev did not look if

> she was initiated and have the right to call His name He protects

> His devotees, that sincerely worship Him in their hearts.

>

> I am sure this litte girl was no common soul, who knows what she

did

> in her previous life. The sannyasi heard that she very much liked

to

> eat sweets, and prepared a big plate ful of sweets for her to rest

> assured she will not be able to eat it all up. He gave her the

> mounted plate of sweets, she took some of the sweets and ran out

> playing with her friends.

> As soon as she was gone of the room, the sannyasi went over that

> plate and took the rest, as for him, this was the best maha-prasad

> available! Who last time has met Lord Nrisimhadev? Narada Muni

> maybe?? The girl for sure, and she must be a great soul.

>

> Let's chant the holy names of the Lord, no matter which

incarnation

> and being initiated or not. Which counts is bhakti – the love to

the

> Lord, and sincerity in the heart.

> On the other hand, if sincere in spiritual life, one should not

> hesitate taking initiation – this is very important for making

> spiritual progress. Because only under the guidance of a sadhu one

> can reach God and return to His abode, the transcendental world.

>

> And KAD is right, there are plenty mantras, we can NOT chant

WITHOUT

> initiation, even Brahmin initiation. Which does not mean we cannot

> chant any holy names or worship God without initiation – everybody

> must make a start before taking initiation.

>

> Kindest regards,

> Shad

>

>

>

> , Balaji Narasimhan

> <sherlockbalaji> wrote:

> > Kad Rudra ji,

> >

> > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between brothers!

> >

> > There is one thing about Vishnu's names - even when chanted

> > wrongly, they give results. There is the story of a guy who

> > chanted "Mara Prabhu" (Wood God) instead of "Amara Prabhu"

> > (Eternal God). Vishnu was still pleased because, in

> > Naimisaranyam, He lives as a forest.

> >

> > Narasimha too, I have heard so many things - but, end of the

> > day, based on personal experience, I have found nobody else to

> > be as helpful. Not Srinivasa, not Rama, not Krishna.

> >

> > I usually just request people to pray to God, and never mention

> > any mantras by name. However, Kavita ji was talking of something

> > critical happening to her son. The Narasimha Mantra I mentioned

> > talks also about Narasimha being the death of death. This is the

> > principal reason why I suggested this specific mantra.

> >

> > Incidentally, I learnt this Mantra all by myself. I recite it

> > for around two hours every day - while driving my bike to office

> > and back home. Countless times, I have escaped accidents in the

> > nick of time, and though the chant begins with "Ugram" (Anger),

> > I have also controlled my anger with this mantra.

> >

> > I think that, beyond initiation by a Guru, etc, which is

> > actually the right way, it is important that we have full faith.

> > I learnt this Mantra by myself, but my faith in this mantra is

> > immense, and maybe this is what is protecting me!

> >

> > Swami Desika, one of the seers whom I worship, says that it is

> > only other animals that fear the lion. The cubs of the lion

> > don't fear it, and, on the contrary, depend upon it for

> > protection. Narasimha too is defined as having one eye like

> > Surya, which looked with fury upon Hiranyakashipu, while the

> > other eye, which gazed tenderly upon Prahalada, was pleasant

> > like Chandra.

> >

> > Also, I belong to the Ahobilam Mutt. In Ahobilam, a Nava

> > Narasimha Kshetra, the nine forms of Narasimha are propitated to

> > get rid of afflictions due to the Nava Grahas. The Nava Grahas

> > themselves are supposed to have worshipped Narasimha to rid

> > themselves of their afflictions!

> >

> > End of the day, faith in the mantra is perhaps greater than the

> > mantra itself!

> >

> >

> > =====

> > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm

> > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs

> > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection

> > =====

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Check out the new Front Page.

> > www.

[Guest guest]

Dear Balaji and others,

 

When you say, anything done with devotion and concentration with real

and just objective REALLY WORKS, do it simply!

Take simple routes to do it! If you feel mantras are nothing else

than names of god, please go for Prayer!why mantra?

Both work as remedies right? Mantras are distilled with years of

TAPAS of sages and certainly any one can not master

them JUST LIKE THAT; They ARE governed by certian rules and

regulations and give results only when done like that.

If not, sometimes they act adversely just like a chemical

combination. SO what gives results in chanting mantra most

of the times is the FAITH and not the Mantra. Hope my explanation is

simple!

 

There is no restriction to know or practice mantras but with exact

and proper guidance. IT NEEDS A GURU. Thats why Hinduism

places GURU in line with BRAHMA-VISHNU-MAHESHWARA. Without Guru, if

any one feels he can get mantra-siddhi(which really means

getting the result of the mantra), it is just his ignorance! So when

you want to get results, try to follow simpler ways.

I do know of Ramanujacharya who climbed up the temple and called

everyone to disclose ASHTAKSHARI mantra, well against the wish

of his Guru. But his aim was to make all follow the path of devotion

and not just mantra.

 

LAST BIT: Persons simply disclosing mantras do well to read about the

final tag attached to those mantras in upanishads,

as to why NOT TO DISCLOSE mantras

simply 'just like that' and what happens if it is done so.

 

 

all are at liberty to do whatever they want! but what works is

different!...try to know that!

 

humbly,

kad

 

 

 

, "kavi_bal" <kavi_bal>

wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> Can you give me the meaning of the Narasimha Manra.. We would like

> to chant it for the well being of my son but know the meaning too ..

>

> Thanks

>

> Kavitha

>

>

> , "Shad" <waterpowers>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Balaji Narasimhan, Kad Rudra and all,

> >

> > I can tell a true story about Lord Narisimhadev Ea friend of

mine

> > also is a friend of the girl who experienced the miracle with

Lord

> > Nrisimhadev.

> >

> > But first a humble opinion to below statement on reading

> Mahabharata

> > at homeE

> >

> > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between brothers!

> >

> > Hearing this makes me very angry!

> > And I think this is righteous. Mahabharata WAS written for we

> people

> > of the kali yug can read. Especially at home. This is what will

> keep

> > the family together!

> > Only a fool can make such a statement.

> >

> > Now allow me to tell a true story that happened some 10 years ago

> in

> > South-Africa. The father and the daughter who experienced this

> event

> > told this story to my friend, a sannyasi and devotee of Lord

> > Nrisimhadev.

> >

> > This stories was also found in the newspapers, and several

> witnesses

> > of this truck-accident after this incident became devotees of

Lord

> > Nrisimhadev.

> >

> > This happened to a simple Vaishnav family that lives there. They

> had

> > a back then 5 years old daughter. This girl was a great `fan' of

> > Nrisimhadev Eshe found Him simply funny, as he looked half lion

> > half man and felt very attracted to Him.

> >

> > She often told her playmates about her favorite God, a lion Eand

> > the kids always wondered about what of God this could beEa

lion

> >

> > What can a five years old girl know about God, she wasn't

> initiated,

> > not even her parents, as far as I can remember.

> > The father of the family followed a guru and surely later

accepted

> > initiation. But there was a small Hindu-community they were in

> close

> > touch with.

> >

> > So, one day the girl was playing outside with her ball together

> with

> > other kids, beside the street. The ball, how else could it be,

> fell

> > on the street, and the girl ran after her precious ball. There

was

> > nearly no traffic, a rarely used country road. But this time a

> very

> > fast truck came running down the road. The girl in her play

didn't

> > see the truck coming.

> > The father was in the first floor of the house and saw his baby

> girl

> > running on the street Ebut he also saw the huge truck coming

> down,

> > closer to his daughter with huge speed. The father yelled at her,

> > but she didn't hear him. So he jumped out of the window of this

> > first floor to save his daughter, and broke both his legs, when

> > coming down, and remained laying on the ground in pain.

> >

> > He had to watch how his little girl was hit by the truck and

> thrown

> > through the air, some 20meter away.

> > All children and neighbors around who observed this froze the

> blood.

> > The father later said his only desire when he saw this was to

die.

> > From the other direction came a police car that also witnessed

the

> > accident. The truck went on and the policeman stopped his car

> across

> > the street to stop him. The truck-driver hardly stopped his truck

> > and he seemed to be very drunk.

> >

> > The policeman immediately called the ambulance and ran over to

the

> > motionless laying girl in the grass.

> >

> > The closest hospital was a small private clinic and the ambulance

> > came, but refused to take the girl, being afraid they wouldn't

> have

> > the necessary devices and machines to help the injuries the girl

> > must have. They advised the policeman to call the main hospital,

> as

> > only they could efficiently help her, as her spine must be

broken,

> > etc.

> >

> > The policeman was in despair, not even knowing where the father

of

> > the girl was. Actually he didn't even know if the girl was still

> > alive, as he didn't dare to touch her, not knowing how injured

she

> > was.

> >

> > However, in the end she was brought to a right hospital, the

> > policeman accompanied the girl, and also finally the father

> there.

> >

> > The chief-doctor heard then what has happened to the girl, and

> they

> > immediately x-rayed her to see first results. The policeman

wanted

> > to rest assured how the girl was doing, and waited there to see

> the

> > results.

> > Everybody was shocked to hear what terrific accident had happened

> to

> > the girl.

> > So the nurse brought the x-ray pictures to the doctor, who became

> > very upset and started yelling at the nurse she should for-God's-

> > sake bring the right pictures, things were about death and life.

> He

> > threatened to fire her, as it was unacceptable to make such

> > mistakes.

> > The nurse was scared and didn't understand what was happening.

> Those

> > were the pictures of the five year old girl that was hit by the

> > truck. The nurse wasn't aware yet of what had happened to the

> girl.

> >

> > The doc said this cannot be Eon the x-ray there was not a single

> > broken bone. So, the doc all the time again and again

> > repeated `impossible Ecan't be'.

> >

> > Then suddenly the girl awoke from her faint and then told a story

> at

> > ful consciousness which made its tour through the media.

> >

> > In the moment she picked up the ball from the street, she saw the

> > truck coming up to her. And the only thing she could do was to

> yell

> > out for help. She didn't call for mommy or daddy, but for her

> > Nrisimhadev. In this moment when the truck should hit her, she

> > suddenly saw how Nrisimhadev picked her up from the ground,

smiled

> > at her, and said, `don't be afraid, nothing will happen to you'.

> > The girl continued her story that the Lord had put her on the

> other

> > side of the street into the grass. But when putting her down, He

> > accidentally scratched her waist, which still hurt her a bit.

> >

> > She spoke about how beautiful Nrisimhadev was, His hair, His

eyes,

> > etc. But his claws were very sharp, He should cut themEhe wore a

> > golden dhotie, etc. The doctor didn't understand anything and

told

> > the policeman she still was in shock and hallucinated, which is

> > normal.

> >

> > So, the girl was profoundly checked for any injuries, but the

only

> > injury they found on her body were those scratches and the doctor

> > said this must be from a wild animal like a lion, as he had cases

> > like this before. So, he was disturbed and asked if they had

> brought

> > the girl to hospital as this one was inured by a wild animal, not

> a

> > truckE

> > Nobody was clear what had happened. The same doctor and the nurse

> > who took care of her later became devotees, as they later learned

> > from the parent who `that lion' was.

> >

> > As we can see miracle still today happen. Not only in

Mahabharata,

> > Puranas or shastras that are more than thousands of years old.

The

> > little girl was very attracted to this form of God, and in her

> > despair she called Him for help. Lord Nrisimhadev did not look if

> > she was initiated and have the right to call His name He protects

> > His devotees, that sincerely worship Him in their hearts.

> >

> > I am sure this litte girl was no common soul, who knows what she

> did

> > in her previous life. The sannyasi heard that she very much liked

> to

> > eat sweets, and prepared a big plate ful of sweets for her to

rest

> > assured she will not be able to eat it all up. He gave her the

> > mounted plate of sweets, she took some of the sweets and ran out

> > playing with her friends.

> > As soon as she was gone of the room, the sannyasi went over that

> > plate and took the rest, as for him, this was the best maha-

prasad

> > available! Who last time has met Lord Nrisimhadev? Narada Muni

> > maybe?? The girl for sure, and she must be a great soul.

> >

> > Let's chant the holy names of the Lord, no matter which

> incarnation

> > and being initiated or not. Which counts is bhakti Ethe love to

> the

> > Lord, and sincerity in the heart.

> > On the other hand, if sincere in spiritual life, one should not

> > hesitate taking initiation Ethis is very important for making

> > spiritual progress. Because only under the guidance of a sadhu

one

> > can reach God and return to His abode, the transcendental world.

> >

> > And KAD is right, there are plenty mantras, we can NOT chant

> WITHOUT

> > initiation, even Brahmin initiation. Which does not mean we

cannot

> > chant any holy names or worship God without initiation E

everybody

> > must make a start before taking initiation.

> >

> > Kindest regards,

> > Shad

> >

> >

> >

> > , Balaji Narasimhan

> > <sherlockbalaji> wrote:

> > > Kad Rudra ji,

> > >

> > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between brothers!

> > >

> > > There is one thing about Vishnu's names - even when chanted

> > > wrongly, they give results. There is the story of a guy who

> > > chanted "Mara Prabhu" (Wood God) instead of "Amara Prabhu"

> > > (Eternal God). Vishnu was still pleased because, in

> > > Naimisaranyam, He lives as a forest.

> > >

> > > Narasimha too, I have heard so many things - but, end of the

> > > day, based on personal experience, I have found nobody else to

> > > be as helpful. Not Srinivasa, not Rama, not Krishna.

> > >

> > > I usually just request people to pray to God, and never mention

> > > any mantras by name. However, Kavita ji was talking of something

> > > critical happening to her son. The Narasimha Mantra I mentioned

> > > talks also about Narasimha being the death of death. This is the

> > > principal reason why I suggested this specific mantra.

> > >

> > > Incidentally, I learnt this Mantra all by myself. I recite it

> > > for around two hours every day - while driving my bike to office

> > > and back home. Countless times, I have escaped accidents in the

> > > nick of time, and though the chant begins with "Ugram" (Anger),

> > > I have also controlled my anger with this mantra.

> > >

> > > I think that, beyond initiation by a Guru, etc, which is

> > > actually the right way, it is important that we have full faith.

> > > I learnt this Mantra by myself, but my faith in this mantra is

> > > immense, and maybe this is what is protecting me!

> > >

> > > Swami Desika, one of the seers whom I worship, says that it is

> > > only other animals that fear the lion. The cubs of the lion

> > > don't fear it, and, on the contrary, depend upon it for

> > > protection. Narasimha too is defined as having one eye like

> > > Surya, which looked with fury upon Hiranyakashipu, while the

> > > other eye, which gazed tenderly upon Prahalada, was pleasant

> > > like Chandra.

> > >

> > > Also, I belong to the Ahobilam Mutt. In Ahobilam, a Nava

> > > Narasimha Kshetra, the nine forms of Narasimha are propitated to

> > > get rid of afflictions due to the Nava Grahas. The Nava Grahas

> > > themselves are supposed to have worshipped Narasimha to rid

> > > themselves of their afflictions!

> > >

> > > End of the day, faith in the mantra is perhaps greater than the

> > > mantra itself!

> > >

> > >

> > > =====

> > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm

> > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs

> > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection

> > > =====

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Check out the new Front Page.

> > > www.

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Dear all,

 

> There is no restriction to know or practice mantras but with exact

> and proper guidance. IT NEEDS A GURU.

 

 

Sri Shastriji at Siddhashram Schweibenalp, May 9, 1985

(excerpt--full speeches are found at www.babaji.net, in WHO IS

SHASTRIJI

section-- well worth reading and study)

 

 

When anybody goes to a master for initiation, the master, with his

Divine knowledge, will look into the person's heart and will

immediately know that in the past life, this human being had been

a worshipper of this particular deity, of the Divine Mother, of

Shiva, or Rama.

 

According to the knowledge of whom he had been worshipping in his

last life, them master will give him the mantra of that particular

deity. If he had been a disciple of the Divine Mother, he will give

him (or her) Shaktipat (initiation into the energy of the Divine

Mother).This is why, in the initial stage, one needs to be with a

master. For after showing the disciple the right direction,

he progresses on his own later on. This is why in this Kali-Yuga,

karma and japa-yoga are considered the most important forms of yoga.

 

 

 

November, 1982

 

" The mind can be purified only by jap. This is

the only medicine for the disease of the mind.

While your mind and heart are impure, how can

God live in your heart. The water to clean your

heart is the Name of God. So teach everyone to

repeat the Name of God - everywhere."

 

Babaji

 

Do what you Love.

Live where you Love.

Pray where you Love.

 

 

 

Om tat sat

Shad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

wrote:

>

> Dear Balaji and others,

>

> When you say, anything done with devotion and concentration with

real

> and just objective REALLY WORKS, do it simply!

> Take simple routes to do it! If you feel mantras are nothing else

> than names of god, please go for Prayer!why mantra?

> Both work as remedies right? Mantras are distilled with years of

> TAPAS of sages and certainly any one can not master

> them JUST LIKE THAT; They ARE governed by certian rules and

> regulations and give results only when done like that.

> If not, sometimes they act adversely just like a chemical

> combination. SO what gives results in chanting mantra most

> of the times is the FAITH and not the Mantra. Hope my explanation

is

> simple!

>

> There is no restriction to know or practice mantras but with exact

> and proper guidance. IT NEEDS A GURU. Thats why Hinduism

> places GURU in line with BRAHMA-VISHNU-MAHESHWARA. Without Guru,

if

> any one feels he can get mantra-siddhi(which really means

> getting the result of the mantra), it is just his ignorance! So

when

> you want to get results, try to follow simpler ways.

> I do know of Ramanujacharya who climbed up the temple and called

> everyone to disclose ASHTAKSHARI mantra, well against the wish

> of his Guru. But his aim was to make all follow the path of

devotion

> and not just mantra.

>

> LAST BIT: Persons simply disclosing mantras do well to read about

the

> final tag attached to those mantras in upanishads,

> as to why NOT TO DISCLOSE mantras

> simply 'just like that' and what happens if it is done so.

>

>

> all are at liberty to do whatever they want! but what works is

> different!...try to know that!

>

> humbly,

> kad

>

>

>

> , "kavi_bal"

<kavi_bal>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Can you give me the meaning of the Narasimha Manra.. We would

like

> > to chant it for the well being of my son but know the meaning

too ..

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Kavitha

> >

> >

> > , "Shad"

<waterpowers>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Balaji Narasimhan, Kad Rudra and all,

> > >

> > > I can tell a true story about Lord Narisimhadev Ea friend of

> mine

> > > also is a friend of the girl who experienced the miracle with

> Lord

> > > Nrisimhadev.

> > >

> > > But first a humble opinion to below statement on reading

> > Mahabharata

> > > at homeE

> > >

> > > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> > > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between

brothers!

> > >

> > > Hearing this makes me very angry!

> > > And I think this is righteous. Mahabharata WAS written for we

> > people

> > > of the kali yug can read. Especially at home. This is what

will

> > keep

> > > the family together!

> > > Only a fool can make such a statement.

> > >

> > > Now allow me to tell a true story that happened some 10 years

ago

> > in

> > > South-Africa. The father and the daughter who experienced this

> > event

> > > told this story to my friend, a sannyasi and devotee of Lord

> > > Nrisimhadev.

> > >

> > > This stories was also found in the newspapers, and several

> > witnesses

> > > of this truck-accident after this incident became devotees of

> Lord

> > > Nrisimhadev.

> > >

> > > This happened to a simple Vaishnav family that lives there.

They

> > had

> > > a back then 5 years old daughter. This girl was a great `fan'

of

> > > Nrisimhadev Eshe found Him simply funny, as he looked half

lion

> > > half man and felt very attracted to Him.

> > >

> > > She often told her playmates about her favorite God, a lion

Eand

> > > the kids always wondered about what of God this could beEa

> lion

> > >

> > > What can a five years old girl know about God, she wasn't

> > initiated,

> > > not even her parents, as far as I can remember.

> > > The father of the family followed a guru and surely later

> accepted

> > > initiation. But there was a small Hindu-community they were in

> > close

> > > touch with.

> > >

> > > So, one day the girl was playing outside with her ball

together

> > with

> > > other kids, beside the street. The ball, how else could it be,

> > fell

> > > on the street, and the girl ran after her precious ball. There

> was

> > > nearly no traffic, a rarely used country road. But this time a

> > very

> > > fast truck came running down the road. The girl in her play

> didn't

> > > see the truck coming.

> > > The father was in the first floor of the house and saw his

baby

> > girl

> > > running on the street Ebut he also saw the huge truck coming

> > down,

> > > closer to his daughter with huge speed. The father yelled at

her,

> > > but she didn't hear him. So he jumped out of the window of

this

> > > first floor to save his daughter, and broke both his legs,

when

> > > coming down, and remained laying on the ground in pain.

> > >

> > > He had to watch how his little girl was hit by the truck and

> > thrown

> > > through the air, some 20meter away.

> > > All children and neighbors around who observed this froze the

> > blood.

> > > The father later said his only desire when he saw this was to

> die.

> > > From the other direction came a police car that also witnessed

> the

> > > accident. The truck went on and the policeman stopped his car

> > across

> > > the street to stop him. The truck-driver hardly stopped his

truck

> > > and he seemed to be very drunk.

> > >

> > > The policeman immediately called the ambulance and ran over to

> the

> > > motionless laying girl in the grass.

> > >

> > > The closest hospital was a small private clinic and the

ambulance

> > > came, but refused to take the girl, being afraid they wouldn't

> > have

> > > the necessary devices and machines to help the injuries the

girl

> > > must have. They advised the policeman to call the main

hospital,

> > as

> > > only they could efficiently help her, as her spine must be

> broken,

> > > etc.

> > >

> > > The policeman was in despair, not even knowing where the

father

> of

> > > the girl was. Actually he didn't even know if the girl was

still

> > > alive, as he didn't dare to touch her, not knowing how injured

> she

> > > was.

> > >

> > > However, in the end she was brought to a right hospital, the

> > > policeman accompanied the girl, and also finally the father

> > there.

> > >

> > > The chief-doctor heard then what has happened to the girl, and

> > they

> > > immediately x-rayed her to see first results. The policeman

> wanted

> > > to rest assured how the girl was doing, and waited there to

see

> > the

> > > results.

> > > Everybody was shocked to hear what terrific accident had

happened

> > to

> > > the girl.

> > > So the nurse brought the x-ray pictures to the doctor, who

became

> > > very upset and started yelling at the nurse she should for-

God's-

> > > sake bring the right pictures, things were about death and

life.

> > He

> > > threatened to fire her, as it was unacceptable to make such

> > > mistakes.

> > > The nurse was scared and didn't understand what was happening.

> > Those

> > > were the pictures of the five year old girl that was hit by

the

> > > truck. The nurse wasn't aware yet of what had happened to the

> > girl.

> > >

> > > The doc said this cannot be Eon the x-ray there was not a

single

> > > broken bone. So, the doc all the time again and again

> > > repeated `impossible Ecan't be'.

> > >

> > > Then suddenly the girl awoke from her faint and then told a

story

> > at

> > > ful consciousness which made its tour through the media.

> > >

> > > In the moment she picked up the ball from the street, she saw

the

> > > truck coming up to her. And the only thing she could do was to

> > yell

> > > out for help. She didn't call for mommy or daddy, but for her

> > > Nrisimhadev. In this moment when the truck should hit her, she

> > > suddenly saw how Nrisimhadev picked her up from the ground,

> smiled

> > > at her, and said, `don't be afraid, nothing will happen to

you'.

> > > The girl continued her story that the Lord had put her on the

> > other

> > > side of the street into the grass. But when putting her down,

He

> > > accidentally scratched her waist, which still hurt her a bit.

> > >

> > > She spoke about how beautiful Nrisimhadev was, His hair, His

> eyes,

> > > etc. But his claws were very sharp, He should cut themEhe

wore a

> > > golden dhotie, etc. The doctor didn't understand anything and

> told

> > > the policeman she still was in shock and hallucinated, which

is

> > > normal.

> > >

> > > So, the girl was profoundly checked for any injuries, but the

> only

> > > injury they found on her body were those scratches and the

doctor

> > > said this must be from a wild animal like a lion, as he had

cases

> > > like this before. So, he was disturbed and asked if they had

> > brought

> > > the girl to hospital as this one was inured by a wild animal,

not

> > a

> > > truckE

> > > Nobody was clear what had happened. The same doctor and the

nurse

> > > who took care of her later became devotees, as they later

learned

> > > from the parent who `that lion' was.

> > >

> > > As we can see miracle still today happen. Not only in

> Mahabharata,

> > > Puranas or shastras that are more than thousands of years old.

> The

> > > little girl was very attracted to this form of God, and in her

> > > despair she called Him for help. Lord Nrisimhadev did not look

if

> > > she was initiated and have the right to call His name He

protects

> > > His devotees, that sincerely worship Him in their hearts.

> > >

> > > I am sure this litte girl was no common soul, who knows what

she

> > did

> > > in her previous life. The sannyasi heard that she very much

liked

> > to

> > > eat sweets, and prepared a big plate ful of sweets for her to

> rest

> > > assured she will not be able to eat it all up. He gave her the

> > > mounted plate of sweets, she took some of the sweets and ran

out

> > > playing with her friends.

> > > As soon as she was gone of the room, the sannyasi went over

that

> > > plate and took the rest, as for him, this was the best maha-

> prasad

> > > available! Who last time has met Lord Nrisimhadev? Narada Muni

> > > maybe?? The girl for sure, and she must be a great soul.

> > >

> > > Let's chant the holy names of the Lord, no matter which

> > incarnation

> > > and being initiated or not. Which counts is bhakti Ethe love

to

> > the

> > > Lord, and sincerity in the heart.

> > > On the other hand, if sincere in spiritual life, one should

not

> > > hesitate taking initiation Ethis is very important for making

> > > spiritual progress. Because only under the guidance of a sadhu

> one

> > > can reach God and return to His abode, the transcendental

world.

> > >

> > > And KAD is right, there are plenty mantras, we can NOT chant

> > WITHOUT

> > > initiation, even Brahmin initiation. Which does not mean we

> cannot

> > > chant any holy names or worship God without initiation E

> everybody

> > > must make a start before taking initiation.

> > >

> > > Kindest regards,

> > > Shad

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Balaji Narasimhan

> > > <sherlockbalaji> wrote:

> > > > Kad Rudra ji,

> > > >

> > > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> > > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between

brothers!

> > > >

> > > > There is one thing about Vishnu's names - even when chanted

> > > > wrongly, they give results. There is the story of a guy who

> > > > chanted "Mara Prabhu" (Wood God) instead of "Amara Prabhu"

> > > > (Eternal God). Vishnu was still pleased because, in

> > > > Naimisaranyam, He lives as a forest.

> > > >

> > > > Narasimha too, I have heard so many things - but, end of the

> > > > day, based on personal experience, I have found nobody else

to

> > > > be as helpful. Not Srinivasa, not Rama, not Krishna.

> > > >

> > > > I usually just request people to pray to God, and never

mention

> > > > any mantras by name. However, Kavita ji was talking of

something

> > > > critical happening to her son. The Narasimha Mantra I

mentioned

> > > > talks also about Narasimha being the death of death. This is

the

> > > > principal reason why I suggested this specific mantra.

> > > >

> > > > Incidentally, I learnt this Mantra all by myself. I recite it

> > > > for around two hours every day - while driving my bike to

office

> > > > and back home. Countless times, I have escaped accidents in

the

> > > > nick of time, and though the chant begins with "Ugram"

(Anger),

> > > > I have also controlled my anger with this mantra.

> > > >

> > > > I think that, beyond initiation by a Guru, etc, which is

> > > > actually the right way, it is important that we have full

faith.

> > > > I learnt this Mantra by myself, but my faith in this mantra

is

> > > > immense, and maybe this is what is protecting me!

> > > >

> > > > Swami Desika, one of the seers whom I worship, says that it

is

> > > > only other animals that fear the lion. The cubs of the lion

> > > > don't fear it, and, on the contrary, depend upon it for

> > > > protection. Narasimha too is defined as having one eye like

> > > > Surya, which looked with fury upon Hiranyakashipu, while the

> > > > other eye, which gazed tenderly upon Prahalada, was pleasant

> > > > like Chandra.

> > > >

> > > > Also, I belong to the Ahobilam Mutt. In Ahobilam, a Nava

> > > > Narasimha Kshetra, the nine forms of Narasimha are

propitated to

> > > > get rid of afflictions due to the Nava Grahas. The Nava

Grahas

> > > > themselves are supposed to have worshipped Narasimha to rid

> > > > themselves of their afflictions!

> > > >

> > > > End of the day, faith in the mantra is perhaps greater than

the

> > > > mantra itself!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > =====

> > > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm

> > > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs

> > > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection

> > > > =====

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Check out the new Front Page.

> > > > www.

[Guest guest]

Here is yet another story regarding "learning from

Guru"...

 

Akbar the great one day saw Birbal chanting some

Mantra. He wants to learn that from Birbal - Birbal

promptly replied, "Only through Guru" you should learn

anything.

Now Akbar wants to show his power - The next day he

could get the Mantra from someone using his "powers".

He proudly pronounced it to Birbal.

 

Birbal calmly replied - "It is of no use if you learn

something without guru".

"Same words, same pronounciation, what change does it

make, if you learn from Guru?" is Akbar's version.

 

Now Birbal shouted at army chief as,

"Arrest this stupid Akbar - He does'nt understand

anything".

The people around were stunned and none moved.

Again birbal shouted the same.

This time too none moved.

 

Now Akbar being angry "You dare to call me stupid?

Arrest this stupid Birbal".

Now everyone around immediately surrounded Birbal.

 

Now Birbal quietly said "SAME WORDS"

 

Akbar realized his mistake and released him.

 

Regards

Arvind

 

--- Shad <waterpowers wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear all,

>

> > There is no restriction to know or practice

> mantras but with exact

> > and proper guidance. IT NEEDS A GURU.

>

>

> Sri Shastriji at Siddhashram Schweibenalp, May 9,

> 1985

> (excerpt--full speeches are found at www.babaji.net,

> in WHO IS

> SHASTRIJI

> section-- well worth reading and study)

>

>

> When anybody goes to a master for initiation, the

> master, with his

> Divine knowledge, will look into the person's heart

> and will

> immediately know that in the past life, this human

> being had been

> a worshipper of this particular deity, of the Divine

> Mother, of

> Shiva, or Rama.

>

> According to the knowledge of whom he had been

> worshipping in his

> last life, them master will give him the mantra of

> that particular

> deity. If he had been a disciple of the Divine

> Mother, he will give

> him (or her) Shaktipat (initiation into the energy

> of the Divine

> Mother).This is why, in the initial stage, one needs

> to be with a

> master. For after showing the disciple the right

> direction,

> he progresses on his own later on. This is why in

> this Kali-Yuga,

> karma and japa-yoga are considered the most

> important forms of yoga.

>

>

>

> November, 1982

>

> " The mind can be purified only by jap. This is

> the only medicine for the disease of the mind.

> While your mind and heart are impure, how can

> God live in your heart. The water to clean your

> heart is the Name of God. So teach everyone to

> repeat the Name of God - everywhere."

>

> Babaji

>

> Do what you Love.

> Live where you Love.

> Pray where you Love.

>

>

>

> Om tat sat

> Shad

>

, "kadrudra"

> <kadrudra>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Balaji and others,

> >

> > When you say, anything done with devotion and

> concentration with

> real

> > and just objective REALLY WORKS, do it simply!

> > Take simple routes to do it! If you feel mantras

> are nothing else

> > than names of god, please go for Prayer!why

> mantra?

> > Both work as remedies right? Mantras are distilled

> with years of

> > TAPAS of sages and certainly any one can not

> master

> > them JUST LIKE THAT; They ARE governed by certian

> rules and

> > regulations and give results only when done like

> that.

> > If not, sometimes they act adversely just like a

> chemical

> > combination. SO what gives results in chanting

> mantra most

> > of the times is the FAITH and not the Mantra. Hope

> my explanation

> is

> > simple!

> >

> > There is no restriction to know or practice

> mantras but with exact

> > and proper guidance. IT NEEDS A GURU. Thats why

> Hinduism

> > places GURU in line with BRAHMA-VISHNU-MAHESHWARA.

> Without Guru,

> if

> > any one feels he can get mantra-siddhi(which

> really means

> > getting the result of the mantra), it is just his

> ignorance! So

> when

> > you want to get results, try to follow simpler

> ways.

> > I do know of Ramanujacharya who climbed up the

> temple and called

> > everyone to disclose ASHTAKSHARI mantra, well

> against the wish

> > of his Guru. But his aim was to make all follow

> the path of

> devotion

> > and not just mantra.

> >

> > LAST BIT: Persons simply disclosing mantras do

> well to read about

> the

> > final tag attached to those mantras in upanishads,

> > as to why NOT TO DISCLOSE mantras

> > simply 'just like that' and what happens if it is

> done so.

> >

> >

> > all are at liberty to do whatever they want! but

> what works is

> > different!...try to know that!

> >

> > humbly,

> > kad

> >

> >

> >

> > ,

> "kavi_bal"

> <kavi_bal>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Can you give me the meaning of the Narasimha

> Manra.. We would

> like

> > > to chant it for the well being of my son but

> know the meaning

> too ..

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Kavitha

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Shad"

> <waterpowers>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Balaji Narasimhan, Kad Rudra and all,

> > > >

> > > > I can tell a true story about Lord

> Narisimhadev Ea friend of

> > mine

> > > > also is a friend of the girl who experienced

> the miracle with

> > Lord

> > > > Nrisimhadev.

> > > >

> > > > But first a humble opinion to below statement

> on reading

> > > Mahabharata

> > > > at homeE

> > > >

> > > > > There are several misconceptions regarding a

> lot of religious

> > > > > things. I have even met people who suggest

> that reading

> > > > > Mahabharata at home could lead to

> differences between

> brothers!

> > > >

> > > > Hearing this makes me very angry!

> > > > And I think this is righteous. Mahabharata WAS

> written for we

> > > people

> > > > of the kali yug can read. Especially at home.

> This is what

> will

> > > keep

> > > > the family together!

> > > > Only a fool can make such a statement.

>

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Dear Kad Ji,

 

Yesterday, when I read your posting, I decided to take some time to

think about this first prior to responding. Obviously you are a

great scholar, and you sincerely believe this. I am no scholar, but

I just as sincerely believe that faith can cause mantra-siddhi as

well. Well, my thinking did not help much :-), but later in the

night when I was praying, the answer came to me in a split second

vision of two figures I glimpsed through a thick fog. One figure was

of a akshara, and the other, of a smiling diety, sitting cross-

legged on a lotus. I could not really tell what this akshara was, or

who this diety was, but our seeming contradictions immediately made

sense. Let me explain.

 

What you have written, regarding mantras having tremendous power,

and being govered by rules and regulations like a chemical reaction,

is totally true. There is an elaborate theory of sound vibrations

(sabda brahma) and corresponding reactions in our ancient texts.

Anyway, that was what that figure of the akshara signified, it was

the actual power of the mantra itself.

 

Every mantra has a mantra devatha and this was the significance of

the diety I saw. My own focus has always been towards that diety.

The words of the mantra, and the sounds of the mantra had power, no

doubt, but my invocation was always targeted towards adoration of

the diety of that mantra. That adoration, being the primary focus,

took the mantra's inherent power and naturally turned it into a

benediction, regardless of whether that raw power was properly set

loose or not. You made the distinction between mantras and prayer. I

don't see that distiction, since every stotra, sloka, mantra, katha,

bhajan or commentary triggers the same feelings of awe, love,

longing and peace in me.

 

Anyway, I think you are right in saying that for mantras to be

effective, a Guru should guide you, if your sole intention is to tap

into the pwer of the mantra, just as you need a teacher to show you

the correct setup in a chemistry lab, for you to perform an

experiment. At the same time, there is also the path of Bhakti,

where the mantra devatha himself/herself will take over and perform

the chemisty experiment for you, or guide you to perform it in the

right way. Same result, different routes.

 

Just my humble opinion, I will be delighted to hear yours and other

people's.

-Sreelatha

 

 

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

wrote:

>

> Dear Balaji and others,

>

> When you say, anything done with devotion and concentration with

real

> and just objective REALLY WORKS, do it simply!

> Take simple routes to do it! If you feel mantras are nothing else

> than names of god, please go for Prayer!why mantra?

> Both work as remedies right? Mantras are distilled with years of

> TAPAS of sages and certainly any one can not master

> them JUST LIKE THAT; They ARE governed by certian rules and

> regulations and give results only when done like that.

> If not, sometimes they act adversely just like a chemical

> combination. SO what gives results in chanting mantra most

> of the times is the FAITH and not the Mantra. Hope my explanation

is

> simple!

>

> There is no restriction to know or practice mantras but with exact

> and proper guidance. IT NEEDS A GURU. Thats why Hinduism

> places GURU in line with BRAHMA-VISHNU-MAHESHWARA. Without Guru,

if

> any one feels he can get mantra-siddhi(which really means

> getting the result of the mantra), it is just his ignorance! So

when

> you want to get results, try to follow simpler ways.

> I do know of Ramanujacharya who climbed up the temple and called

> everyone to disclose ASHTAKSHARI mantra, well against the wish

> of his Guru. But his aim was to make all follow the path of

devotion

> and not just mantra.

>

> LAST BIT: Persons simply disclosing mantras do well to read about

the

> final tag attached to those mantras in upanishads,

> as to why NOT TO DISCLOSE mantras

> simply 'just like that' and what happens if it is done so.

>

>

> all are at liberty to do whatever they want! but what works is

> different!...try to know that!

>

> humbly,

> kad

>

>

>

> , "kavi_bal"

<kavi_bal>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Can you give me the meaning of the Narasimha Manra.. We would

like

> > to chant it for the well being of my son but know the meaning

too ..

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Kavitha

> >

> >

> > , "Shad"

<waterpowers>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Balaji Narasimhan, Kad Rudra and all,

> > >

> > > I can tell a true story about Lord Narisimhadev Ea friend of

> mine

> > > also is a friend of the girl who experienced the miracle with

> Lord

> > > Nrisimhadev.

> > >

> > > But first a humble opinion to below statement on reading

> > Mahabharata

> > > at homeE

> > >

> > > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> > > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between

brothers!

> > >

> > > Hearing this makes me very angry!

> > > And I think this is righteous. Mahabharata WAS written for we

> > people

> > > of the kali yug can read. Especially at home. This is what

will

> > keep

> > > the family together!

> > > Only a fool can make such a statement.

> > >

> > > Now allow me to tell a true story that happened some 10 years

ago

> > in

> > > South-Africa. The father and the daughter who experienced this

> > event

> > > told this story to my friend, a sannyasi and devotee of Lord

> > > Nrisimhadev.

> > >

> > > This stories was also found in the newspapers, and several

> > witnesses

> > > of this truck-accident after this incident became devotees of

> Lord

> > > Nrisimhadev.

> > >

> > > This happened to a simple Vaishnav family that lives there.

They

> > had

> > > a back then 5 years old daughter. This girl was a great `fan'

of

> > > Nrisimhadev Eshe found Him simply funny, as he looked half

lion

> > > half man and felt very attracted to Him.

> > >

> > > She often told her playmates about her favorite God, a lion

Eand

> > > the kids always wondered about what of God this could beEa

> lion

> > >

> > > What can a five years old girl know about God, she wasn't

> > initiated,

> > > not even her parents, as far as I can remember.

> > > The father of the family followed a guru and surely later

> accepted

> > > initiation. But there was a small Hindu-community they were in

> > close

> > > touch with.

> > >

> > > So, one day the girl was playing outside with her ball

together

> > with

> > > other kids, beside the street. The ball, how else could it be,

> > fell

> > > on the street, and the girl ran after her precious ball. There

> was

> > > nearly no traffic, a rarely used country road. But this time a

> > very

> > > fast truck came running down the road. The girl in her play

> didn't

> > > see the truck coming.

> > > The father was in the first floor of the house and saw his

baby

> > girl

> > > running on the street Ebut he also saw the huge truck coming

> > down,

> > > closer to his daughter with huge speed. The father yelled at

her,

> > > but she didn't hear him. So he jumped out of the window of

this

> > > first floor to save his daughter, and broke both his legs,

when

> > > coming down, and remained laying on the ground in pain.

> > >

> > > He had to watch how his little girl was hit by the truck and

> > thrown

> > > through the air, some 20meter away.

> > > All children and neighbors around who observed this froze the

> > blood.

> > > The father later said his only desire when he saw this was to

> die.

> > > From the other direction came a police car that also witnessed

> the

> > > accident. The truck went on and the policeman stopped his car

> > across

> > > the street to stop him. The truck-driver hardly stopped his

truck

> > > and he seemed to be very drunk.

> > >

> > > The policeman immediately called the ambulance and ran over to

> the

> > > motionless laying girl in the grass.

> > >

> > > The closest hospital was a small private clinic and the

ambulance

> > > came, but refused to take the girl, being afraid they wouldn't

> > have

> > > the necessary devices and machines to help the injuries the

girl

> > > must have. They advised the policeman to call the main

hospital,

> > as

> > > only they could efficiently help her, as her spine must be

> broken,

> > > etc.

> > >

> > > The policeman was in despair, not even knowing where the

father

> of

> > > the girl was. Actually he didn't even know if the girl was

still

> > > alive, as he didn't dare to touch her, not knowing how injured

> she

> > > was.

> > >

> > > However, in the end she was brought to a right hospital, the

> > > policeman accompanied the girl, and also finally the father

> > there.

> > >

> > > The chief-doctor heard then what has happened to the girl, and

> > they

> > > immediately x-rayed her to see first results. The policeman

> wanted

> > > to rest assured how the girl was doing, and waited there to

see

> > the

> > > results.

> > > Everybody was shocked to hear what terrific accident had

happened

> > to

> > > the girl.

> > > So the nurse brought the x-ray pictures to the doctor, who

became

> > > very upset and started yelling at the nurse she should for-

God's-

> > > sake bring the right pictures, things were about death and

life.

> > He

> > > threatened to fire her, as it was unacceptable to make such

> > > mistakes.

> > > The nurse was scared and didn't understand what was happening.

> > Those

> > > were the pictures of the five year old girl that was hit by

the

> > > truck. The nurse wasn't aware yet of what had happened to the

> > girl.

> > >

> > > The doc said this cannot be Eon the x-ray there was not a

single

> > > broken bone. So, the doc all the time again and again

> > > repeated `impossible Ecan't be'.

> > >

> > > Then suddenly the girl awoke from her faint and then told a

story

> > at

> > > ful consciousness which made its tour through the media.

> > >

> > > In the moment she picked up the ball from the street, she saw

the

> > > truck coming up to her. And the only thing she could do was to

> > yell

> > > out for help. She didn't call for mommy or daddy, but for her

> > > Nrisimhadev. In this moment when the truck should hit her, she

> > > suddenly saw how Nrisimhadev picked her up from the ground,

> smiled

> > > at her, and said, `don't be afraid, nothing will happen to

you'.

> > > The girl continued her story that the Lord had put her on the

> > other

> > > side of the street into the grass. But when putting her down,

He

> > > accidentally scratched her waist, which still hurt her a bit.

> > >

> > > She spoke about how beautiful Nrisimhadev was, His hair, His

> eyes,

> > > etc. But his claws were very sharp, He should cut themEhe

wore a

> > > golden dhotie, etc. The doctor didn't understand anything and

> told

> > > the policeman she still was in shock and hallucinated, which

is

> > > normal.

> > >

> > > So, the girl was profoundly checked for any injuries, but the

> only

> > > injury they found on her body were those scratches and the

doctor

> > > said this must be from a wild animal like a lion, as he had

cases

> > > like this before. So, he was disturbed and asked if they had

> > brought

> > > the girl to hospital as this one was inured by a wild animal,

not

> > a

> > > truckE

> > > Nobody was clear what had happened. The same doctor and the

nurse

> > > who took care of her later became devotees, as they later

learned

> > > from the parent who `that lion' was.

> > >

> > > As we can see miracle still today happen. Not only in

> Mahabharata,

> > > Puranas or shastras that are more than thousands of years old.

> The

> > > little girl was very attracted to this form of God, and in her

> > > despair she called Him for help. Lord Nrisimhadev did not look

if

> > > she was initiated and have the right to call His name He

protects

> > > His devotees, that sincerely worship Him in their hearts.

> > >

> > > I am sure this litte girl was no common soul, who knows what

she

> > did

> > > in her previous life. The sannyasi heard that she very much

liked

> > to

> > > eat sweets, and prepared a big plate ful of sweets for her to

> rest

> > > assured she will not be able to eat it all up. He gave her the

> > > mounted plate of sweets, she took some of the sweets and ran

out

> > > playing with her friends.

> > > As soon as she was gone of the room, the sannyasi went over

that

> > > plate and took the rest, as for him, this was the best maha-

> prasad

> > > available! Who last time has met Lord Nrisimhadev? Narada Muni

> > > maybe?? The girl for sure, and she must be a great soul.

> > >

> > > Let's chant the holy names of the Lord, no matter which

> > incarnation

> > > and being initiated or not. Which counts is bhakti Ethe love

to

> > the

> > > Lord, and sincerity in the heart.

> > > On the other hand, if sincere in spiritual life, one should

not

> > > hesitate taking initiation Ethis is very important for making

> > > spiritual progress. Because only under the guidance of a sadhu

> one

> > > can reach God and return to His abode, the transcendental

world.

> > >

> > > And KAD is right, there are plenty mantras, we can NOT chant

> > WITHOUT

> > > initiation, even Brahmin initiation. Which does not mean we

> cannot

> > > chant any holy names or worship God without initiation E

> everybody

> > > must make a start before taking initiation.

> > >

> > > Kindest regards,

> > > Shad

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Balaji Narasimhan

> > > <sherlockbalaji> wrote:

> > > > Kad Rudra ji,

> > > >

> > > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of religious

> > > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between

brothers!

> > > >

> > > > There is one thing about Vishnu's names - even when chanted

> > > > wrongly, they give results. There is the story of a guy who

> > > > chanted "Mara Prabhu" (Wood God) instead of "Amara Prabhu"

> > > > (Eternal God). Vishnu was still pleased because, in

> > > > Naimisaranyam, He lives as a forest.

> > > >

> > > > Narasimha too, I have heard so many things - but, end of the

> > > > day, based on personal experience, I have found nobody else

to

> > > > be as helpful. Not Srinivasa, not Rama, not Krishna.

> > > >

> > > > I usually just request people to pray to God, and never

mention

> > > > any mantras by name. However, Kavita ji was talking of

something

> > > > critical happening to her son. The Narasimha Mantra I

mentioned

> > > > talks also about Narasimha being the death of death. This is

the

> > > > principal reason why I suggested this specific mantra.

> > > >

> > > > Incidentally, I learnt this Mantra all by myself. I recite it

> > > > for around two hours every day - while driving my bike to

office

> > > > and back home. Countless times, I have escaped accidents in

the

> > > > nick of time, and though the chant begins with "Ugram"

(Anger),

> > > > I have also controlled my anger with this mantra.

> > > >

> > > > I think that, beyond initiation by a Guru, etc, which is

> > > > actually the right way, it is important that we have full

faith.

> > > > I learnt this Mantra by myself, but my faith in this mantra

is

> > > > immense, and maybe this is what is protecting me!

> > > >

> > > > Swami Desika, one of the seers whom I worship, says that it

is

> > > > only other animals that fear the lion. The cubs of the lion

> > > > don't fear it, and, on the contrary, depend upon it for

> > > > protection. Narasimha too is defined as having one eye like

> > > > Surya, which looked with fury upon Hiranyakashipu, while the

> > > > other eye, which gazed tenderly upon Prahalada, was pleasant

> > > > like Chandra.

> > > >

> > > > Also, I belong to the Ahobilam Mutt. In Ahobilam, a Nava

> > > > Narasimha Kshetra, the nine forms of Narasimha are

propitated to

> > > > get rid of afflictions due to the Nava Grahas. The Nava

Grahas

> > > > themselves are supposed to have worshipped Narasimha to rid

> > > > themselves of their afflictions!

> > > >

> > > > End of the day, faith in the mantra is perhaps greater than

the

> > > > mantra itself!

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Sreelatha Kad Ji and all,

 

Sreelatha, you really nicely explained the chanting and purpose of

mantra!

 

Please, allow me to add something.

KAD ji mentioned the teachings of shastras where it is written, that

without the guidance of a sadhu or qualified guru no transcendental

results are possible.

So any spiritual practise which has the goal of liberation from

karma, guna and reincarnation, can only be performed under the

guidance of a qualified guru or sadhu. But this guru should not

anymore be under the influence of karma, the three gunas, which are

tamas/ ignorance, raja/ passion, and sattva/ goodness.

Only once someone is free from karmic influence and the three gunas,

this person can be seen as qualified to accept disciples and to

guide them.

 

It is said that one can only make as much advancement, as someone's

guru did, one accepted initiation from and is guided in spiritual

life. This is why it is of great value for the sadaka to know guru-

tattva and its purpose.

 

There are many mantras that can only be chanted if one is initiated

into the chanting of such, and trained in how these mantras are to

be chanted and what rules must be regarded! There are for example

deity worship, yanja or duni performance, etc., vegetarian

lifestyle, cleanliness, chanting of specific mantras, daily pooja,

etc. are necessary to be qualified.

Most ceremonies are done before mantras are recited, and before

doing this, actually guru must humbly be requested for permission to

do this!

 

Guru is a kind of channel to the divine – and only through a pure

channel and connection one can serve, worship and offer prayers to

God. As we are limited by the influence of karma and the three gunas

tama, raja and sattva, it is not possible for us to serve God by

our own power, means without guidance of a sadhu.

Yes, even the Lord Himself incarnates here in this material world,

to give us the example and also accepts initiation from a guru, such

as Rama, Krishna, Chaitanya and other did – to teach us and give us

an example.

 

Does that mean God doesn't hear our prayers without initation and

guru? No!

 

God hears every prayer and mantra we utter! He is as param-atma –

the super-soul - in everyone's heart, and if one invites Him with

love and devotion, the Sreelatha nicely said: "where the mantra

devatha himself/herself will take over and perform the chemisty

experiment for you! "

 

Shastra says that if someone performs transcendental activities,

such as the chanting of mantras without initiation and without

guru's guidance, etc. then these activities are seen as PIOUS

activities, not transcendental activities.

 

>From pious activities results good karma and after death for example

a rebirth on the heavenly planets can be achieved, where the

collected good karma can be enjoyed – and `used off

 

BUT, once this good karma is `used up' one will take birth again and

starts from the scratch.

 

No matter what, good or bad karma bring REBIRTH.

 

Transcendentalists in common that follow the teachings of Siddhanta,

Vedanta or other both is seen as `bad', not only the bad karma, also

the good karma – as also for the good karma one must take birth

again, which means again suffering.

 

Material happiness and unhappiness are married for always and ever,

not possible to separate them!

Where there is luck there also is un-luck, and vice versa. But if

one wants to develop shruti many pious activities must be performed.

 

God is no robot or businessman that can be impressed or pleased by

mechanical ceremonies, rules and regulations, tapasya, etc. All

these initiations, ceremonies, chanting of mantras, etc have a

purpose. That one first of all is self realization. It has the

purpose to change our consciousness, so we can see our real self,

and that we'll develop devotion to God.

Although in shastra it is said that the Lord is satisfied

with 'shanta'-rasa, a neutral relationship, I would suggest anyone

to go on the path of love, because God also is a person, although He

has an impersonal form.

Who from us would be satisfied if we were treated impersonal,

somebody wants to please us but has a neutral relationship, dry and

impersonal. But then God should free us from suffering and the cycle

of birth and death.

 

The message here is 'chant the holy names, always and everywhere'.

No matter if initiated or not, from this chanting one develops a

higher taste, which will guide us, through God's hands to the desire

for more, also initiation, the guru and the path which will guide us

into the spiritual abode.

 

God is no privilege for a brahmin caste or the initiated, that are

allowed to worship him. He is the basic right of everyone. And I say

this as an initiated and brahmin... it is the nature of the soul,

our real self the atman, to love, worship and serve God. Everything

else, initiation, guru, mantras, etc are there to restore the real

nature of the soul.

 

KAD, I hope we can agree here with you, as scholar.

 

All the best wishes,

Shad

 

 

 

 

 

, "V. Sreelatha"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

>

> Dear Kad Ji,

>

> Yesterday, when I read your posting, I decided to take some time

to

> think about this first prior to responding. Obviously you are a

> great scholar, and you sincerely believe this. I am no scholar,

but

> I just as sincerely believe that faith can cause mantra-siddhi as

> well. Well, my thinking did not help much :-), but later in the

> night when I was praying, the answer came to me in a split second

> vision of two figures I glimpsed through a thick fog. One figure

was

> of a akshara, and the other, of a smiling diety, sitting cross-

> legged on a lotus. I could not really tell what this akshara was,

or

> who this diety was, but our seeming contradictions immediately

made

> sense. Let me explain.

>

> What you have written, regarding mantras having tremendous power,

> and being govered by rules and regulations like a chemical

reaction,

> is totally true. There is an elaborate theory of sound vibrations

> (sabda brahma) and corresponding reactions in our ancient texts.

> Anyway, that was what that figure of the akshara signified, it was

> the actual power of the mantra itself.

>

> Every mantra has a mantra devatha and this was the significance of

> the diety I saw. My own focus has always been towards that diety.

> The words of the mantra, and the sounds of the mantra had power,

no

> doubt, but my invocation was always targeted towards adoration of

> the diety of that mantra. That adoration, being the primary focus,

> took the mantra's inherent power and naturally turned it into a

> benediction, regardless of whether that raw power was properly set

> loose or not. You made the distinction between mantras and prayer.

I

> don't see that distiction, since every stotra, sloka, mantra,

katha,

> bhajan or commentary triggers the same feelings of awe, love,

> longing and peace in me.

>

> Anyway, I think you are right in saying that for mantras to be

> effective, a Guru should guide you, if your sole intention is to

tap

> into the pwer of the mantra, just as you need a teacher to show

you

> the correct setup in a chemistry lab, for you to perform an

> experiment. At the same time, there is also the path of Bhakti,

> where the mantra devatha himself/herself will take over and

perform

> the chemisty experiment for you, or guide you to perform it in the

> right way. Same result, different routes.

>

> Just my humble opinion, I will be delighted to hear yours and

other

> people's.

> -Sreelatha

>

>

> , "kadrudra"

<kadrudra>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Balaji and others,

> >

> > When you say, anything done with devotion and concentration with

> real

> > and just objective REALLY WORKS, do it simply!

> > Take simple routes to do it! If you feel mantras are nothing

else

> > than names of god, please go for Prayer!why mantra?

> > Both work as remedies right? Mantras are distilled with years of

> > TAPAS of sages and certainly any one can not master

> > them JUST LIKE THAT; They ARE governed by certian rules and

> > regulations and give results only when done like that.

> > If not, sometimes they act adversely just like a chemical

> > combination. SO what gives results in chanting mantra most

> > of the times is the FAITH and not the Mantra. Hope my

explanation

> is

> > simple!

> >

> > There is no restriction to know or practice mantras but with

exact

> > and proper guidance. IT NEEDS A GURU. Thats why Hinduism

> > places GURU in line with BRAHMA-VISHNU-MAHESHWARA. Without Guru,

> if

> > any one feels he can get mantra-siddhi(which really means

> > getting the result of the mantra), it is just his ignorance! So

> when

> > you want to get results, try to follow simpler ways.

> > I do know of Ramanujacharya who climbed up the temple and called

> > everyone to disclose ASHTAKSHARI mantra, well against the wish

> > of his Guru. But his aim was to make all follow the path of

> devotion

> > and not just mantra.

> >

> > LAST BIT: Persons simply disclosing mantras do well to read

about

> the

> > final tag attached to those mantras in upanishads,

> > as to why NOT TO DISCLOSE mantras

> > simply 'just like that' and what happens if it is done so.

> >

> >

> > all are at liberty to do whatever they want! but what works is

> > different!...try to know that!

> >

> > humbly,

> > kad

> >

> >

> >

> > , "kavi_bal"

> <kavi_bal>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Can you give me the meaning of the Narasimha Manra.. We would

> like

> > > to chant it for the well being of my son but know the meaning

> too ..

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Kavitha

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Shad"

> <waterpowers>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Balaji Narasimhan, Kad Rudra and all,

> > > >

> > > > I can tell a true story about Lord Narisimhadev Ea friend

of

> > mine

> > > > also is a friend of the girl who experienced the miracle

with

> > Lord

> > > > Nrisimhadev.

> > > >

> > > > But first a humble opinion to below statement on reading

> > > Mahabharata

> > > > at homeE

> > > >

> > > > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of

religious

> > > > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between

> brothers!

> > > >

> > > > Hearing this makes me very angry!

> > > > And I think this is righteous. Mahabharata WAS written for

we

> > > people

> > > > of the kali yug can read. Especially at home. This is what

> will

> > > keep

> > > > the family together!

> > > > Only a fool can make such a statement.

> > > >

> > > > Now allow me to tell a true story that happened some 10

years

> ago

> > > in

> > > > South-Africa. The father and the daughter who experienced

this

> > > event

> > > > told this story to my friend, a sannyasi and devotee of Lord

> > > > Nrisimhadev.

> > > >

> > > > This stories was also found in the newspapers, and several

> > > witnesses

> > > > of this truck-accident after this incident became devotees

of

> > Lord

> > > > Nrisimhadev.

> > > >

> > > > This happened to a simple Vaishnav family that lives there.

> They

> > > had

> > > > a back then 5 years old daughter. This girl was a great

`fan'

> of

> > > > Nrisimhadev Eshe found Him simply funny, as he looked half

> lion

> > > > half man and felt very attracted to Him.

> > > >

> > > > She often told her playmates about her favorite God, a lion

> Eand

> > > > the kids always wondered about what of God this could beEa

> > lion

> > > >

> > > > What can a five years old girl know about God, she wasn't

> > > initiated,

> > > > not even her parents, as far as I can remember.

> > > > The father of the family followed a guru and surely later

> > accepted

> > > > initiation. But there was a small Hindu-community they were

in

> > > close

> > > > touch with.

> > > >

> > > > So, one day the girl was playing outside with her ball

> together

> > > with

> > > > other kids, beside the street. The ball, how else could it

be,

> > > fell

> > > > on the street, and the girl ran after her precious ball.

There

> > was

> > > > nearly no traffic, a rarely used country road. But this time

a

> > > very

> > > > fast truck came running down the road. The girl in her play

> > didn't

> > > > see the truck coming.

> > > > The father was in the first floor of the house and saw his

> baby

> > > girl

> > > > running on the street Ebut he also saw the huge truck

coming

> > > down,

> > > > closer to his daughter with huge speed. The father yelled at

> her,

> > > > but she didn't hear him. So he jumped out of the window of

> this

> > > > first floor to save his daughter, and broke both his legs,

> when

> > > > coming down, and remained laying on the ground in pain.

> > > >

> > > > He had to watch how his little girl was hit by the truck and

> > > thrown

> > > > through the air, some 20meter away.

> > > > All children and neighbors around who observed this froze

the

> > > blood.

> > > > The father later said his only desire when he saw this was

to

> > die.

> > > > From the other direction came a police car that also

witnessed

> > the

> > > > accident. The truck went on and the policeman stopped his

car

> > > across

> > > > the street to stop him. The truck-driver hardly stopped his

> truck

> > > > and he seemed to be very drunk.

> > > >

> > > > The policeman immediately called the ambulance and ran over

to

> > the

> > > > motionless laying girl in the grass.

> > > >

> > > > The closest hospital was a small private clinic and the

> ambulance

> > > > came, but refused to take the girl, being afraid they

wouldn't

> > > have

> > > > the necessary devices and machines to help the injuries the

> girl

> > > > must have. They advised the policeman to call the main

> hospital,

> > > as

> > > > only they could efficiently help her, as her spine must be

> > broken,

> > > > etc.

> > > >

> > > > The policeman was in despair, not even knowing where the

> father

> > of

> > > > the girl was. Actually he didn't even know if the girl was

> still

> > > > alive, as he didn't dare to touch her, not knowing how

injured

> > she

> > > > was.

> > > >

> > > > However, in the end she was brought to a right hospital, the

> > > > policeman accompanied the girl, and also finally the father

> > > there.

> > > >

> > > > The chief-doctor heard then what has happened to the girl,

and

> > > they

> > > > immediately x-rayed her to see first results. The policeman

> > wanted

> > > > to rest assured how the girl was doing, and waited there to

> see

> > > the

> > > > results.

> > > > Everybody was shocked to hear what terrific accident had

> happened

> > > to

> > > > the girl.

> > > > So the nurse brought the x-ray pictures to the doctor, who

> became

> > > > very upset and started yelling at the nurse she should for-

> God's-

> > > > sake bring the right pictures, things were about death and

> life.

> > > He

> > > > threatened to fire her, as it was unacceptable to make such

> > > > mistakes.

> > > > The nurse was scared and didn't understand what was

happening.

> > > Those

> > > > were the pictures of the five year old girl that was hit by

> the

> > > > truck. The nurse wasn't aware yet of what had happened to

the

> > > girl.

> > > >

> > > > The doc said this cannot be Eon the x-ray there was not a

> single

> > > > broken bone. So, the doc all the time again and again

> > > > repeated `impossible Ecan't be'.

> > > >

> > > > Then suddenly the girl awoke from her faint and then told a

> story

> > > at

> > > > ful consciousness which made its tour through the media.

> > > >

> > > > In the moment she picked up the ball from the street, she

saw

> the

> > > > truck coming up to her. And the only thing she could do was

to

> > > yell

> > > > out for help. She didn't call for mommy or daddy, but for

her

> > > > Nrisimhadev. In this moment when the truck should hit her,

she

> > > > suddenly saw how Nrisimhadev picked her up from the ground,

> > smiled

> > > > at her, and said, `don't be afraid, nothing will happen to

> you'.

> > > > The girl continued her story that the Lord had put her on

the

> > > other

> > > > side of the street into the grass. But when putting her

down,

> He

> > > > accidentally scratched her waist, which still hurt her a

bit.

> > > >

> > > > She spoke about how beautiful Nrisimhadev was, His hair, His

> > eyes,

> > > > etc. But his claws were very sharp, He should cut themEhe

> wore a

> > > > golden dhotie, etc. The doctor didn't understand anything

and

> > told

> > > > the policeman she still was in shock and hallucinated, which

> is

> > > > normal.

> > > >

> > > > So, the girl was profoundly checked for any injuries, but

the

> > only

> > > > injury they found on her body were those scratches and the

> doctor

> > > > said this must be from a wild animal like a lion, as he had

> cases

> > > > like this before. So, he was disturbed and asked if they had

> > > brought

> > > > the girl to hospital as this one was inured by a wild

animal,

> not

> > > a

> > > > truckE

> > > > Nobody was clear what had happened. The same doctor and the

> nurse

> > > > who took care of her later became devotees, as they later

> learned

> > > > from the parent who `that lion' was.

> > > >

> > > > As we can see miracle still today happen. Not only in

> > Mahabharata,

> > > > Puranas or shastras that are more than thousands of years

old.

> > The

> > > > little girl was very attracted to this form of God, and in

her

> > > > despair she called Him for help. Lord Nrisimhadev did not

look

> if

> > > > she was initiated and have the right to call His name He

> protects

> > > > His devotees, that sincerely worship Him in their hearts.

> > > >

> > > > I am sure this litte girl was no common soul, who knows what

> she

> > > did

> > > > in her previous life. The sannyasi heard that she very much

> liked

> > > to

> > > > eat sweets, and prepared a big plate ful of sweets for her

to

> > rest

> > > > assured she will not be able to eat it all up. He gave her

the

> > > > mounted plate of sweets, she took some of the sweets and ran

> out

> > > > playing with her friends.

> > > > As soon as she was gone of the room, the sannyasi went over

> that

> > > > plate and took the rest, as for him, this was the best maha-

> > prasad

> > > > available! Who last time has met Lord Nrisimhadev? Narada

Muni

> > > > maybe?? The girl for sure, and she must be a great soul.

> > > >

> > > > Let's chant the holy names of the Lord, no matter which

> > > incarnation

> > > > and being initiated or not. Which counts is bhakti Ethe

love

> to

> > > the

> > > > Lord, and sincerity in the heart.

> > > > On the other hand, if sincere in spiritual life, one should

> not

> > > > hesitate taking initiation Ethis is very important for

making

> > > > spiritual progress. Because only under the guidance of a

sadhu

> > one

> > > > can reach God and return to His abode, the transcendental

> world.

> > > >

> > > > And KAD is right, there are plenty mantras, we can NOT chant

> > > WITHOUT

> > > > initiation, even Brahmin initiation. Which does not mean we

> > cannot

> > > > chant any holy names or worship God without initiation E

> > everybody

> > > > must make a start before taking initiation.

> > > >

> > > > Kindest regards,

> > > > Shad

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Balaji Narasimhan

> > > > <sherlockbalaji> wrote:

> > > > > Kad Rudra ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of

religious

> > > > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between

> brothers!

> > > > >

> > > > > There is one thing about Vishnu's names - even when chanted

> > > > > wrongly, they give results. There is the story of a guy who

> > > > > chanted "Mara Prabhu" (Wood God) instead of "Amara Prabhu"

> > > > > (Eternal God). Vishnu was still pleased because, in

> > > > > Naimisaranyam, He lives as a forest.

> > > > >

> > > > > Narasimha too, I have heard so many things - but, end of

the

> > > > > day, based on personal experience, I have found nobody

else

> to

> > > > > be as helpful. Not Srinivasa, not Rama, not Krishna.

> > > > >

> > > > > I usually just request people to pray to God, and never

> mention

> > > > > any mantras by name. However, Kavita ji was talking of

> something

> > > > > critical happening to her son. The Narasimha Mantra I

> mentioned

> > > > > talks also about Narasimha being the death of death. This

is

> the

> > > > > principal reason why I suggested this specific mantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Incidentally, I learnt this Mantra all by myself. I recite

it

> > > > > for around two hours every day - while driving my bike to

> office

> > > > > and back home. Countless times, I have escaped accidents

in

> the

> > > > > nick of time, and though the chant begins with "Ugram"

> (Anger),

> > > > > I have also controlled my anger with this mantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think that, beyond initiation by a Guru, etc, which is

> > > > > actually the right way, it is important that we have full

> faith.

> > > > > I learnt this Mantra by myself, but my faith in this

mantra

> is

> > > > > immense, and maybe this is what is protecting me!

> > > > >

> > > > > Swami Desika, one of the seers whom I worship, says that

it

> is

> > > > > only other animals that fear the lion. The cubs of the lion

> > > > > don't fear it, and, on the contrary, depend upon it for

> > > > > protection. Narasimha too is defined as having one eye like

> > > > > Surya, which looked with fury upon Hiranyakashipu, while

the

> > > > > other eye, which gazed tenderly upon Prahalada, was

pleasant

> > > > > like Chandra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, I belong to the Ahobilam Mutt. In Ahobilam, a Nava

> > > > > Narasimha Kshetra, the nine forms of Narasimha are

> propitated to

> > > > > get rid of afflictions due to the Nava Grahas. The Nava

> Grahas

> > > > > themselves are supposed to have worshipped Narasimha to rid

> > > > > themselves of their afflictions!

> > > > >

> > > > > End of the day, faith in the mantra is perhaps greater

than

> the

> > > > > mantra itself!

> > > > >

> > > > >

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holmes.com/balaji.htm

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> > > > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection

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> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sreelatha Kad Ji and all,

 

Sreelatha, you really nicely explained the chanting and purpose of

mantra!

 

Please, allow me to add something.

KAD ji mentioned the teachings of shastras where it is written, that

without the guidance of a sadhu or qualified guru no transcendental

results are possible.

So any spiritual practise which has the goal of liberation from

karma, guna and reincarnation, can only be performed under the

guidance of a qualified guru or sadhu. But this guru should not

anymore be under the influence of karma, the three gunas, which are

tamas/ ignorance, raja/ passion, and sattva/ goodness.

Only once someone is free from karmic influence and the three gunas,

this person can be seen as qualified to accept disciples and to

guide them.

 

It is said that one can only make as much advancement, as someone's

guru did, one accepted initiation from and is guided in spiritual

life. This is why it is of great value for the sadaka to know guru-

tattva and its purpose.

 

There are many mantras that can only be chanted if one is initiated

into the chanting of such, and trained in how these mantras are to

be chanted and what rules must be regarded! There are for example

deity worship, yanja or duni performance, etc., vegetarian

lifestyle, cleanliness, chanting of specific mantras, daily pooja,

etc. are necessary to be qualified.

Most ceremonies are done before mantras are recited, and before

doing this, actually guru must humbly be requested for permission to

do this!

 

Guru is a kind of channel to the divine – and only through a pure

channel and connection one can serve, worship and offer prayers to

God. As we are limited by the influence of karma and the three gunas

tama, raja and sattva, it is not possible for us to serve God by

our own power, means without guidance of a sadhu.

Yes, even the Lord Himself incarnates here in this material world,

to give us the example and also accepts initiation from a guru, such

as Rama, Krishna, Chaitanya and other did – to teach us and give us

an example.

 

Does that mean God doesn't hear our prayers without initation and

guru? No!

 

God hears every prayer and mantra we utter! He is as param-atma –

the super-soul - in everyone's heart, and if one invites Him with

love and devotion, the Sreelatha nicely said: "where the mantra

devatha himself/herself will take over and perform the chemisty

experiment for you! "

 

Shastra says that if someone performs transcendental activities,

such as the chanting of mantras without initiation and without

guru's guidance, etc. then these activities are seen as PIOUS

activities, not transcendental activities.

 

>From pious activities results good karma and after death for example

a rebirth on the heavenly planets can be achieved, where the

collected good karma can be enjoyed – and `used off

 

BUT, once this good karma is `used up' one will take birth again and

starts from the scratch.

 

No matter what, good or bad karma bring REBIRTH.

 

Transcendentalists in common that follow the teachings of Siddhanta,

Vedanta or other both is seen as `bad', not only the bad karma, also

the good karma – as also for the good karma one must take birth

again, which means again suffering.

 

Material happiness and unhappiness are married for always and ever,

not possible to separate them!

Where there is luck there also is un-luck, and vice versa. But if

one wants to develop shruti many pious activities must be performed.

 

God is no robot or businessman that can be impressed or pleased by

mechanical ceremonies, rules and regulations, tapasya, etc. All

these initiations, ceremonies, chanting of mantras, etc have a

purpose. That one first of all is self realization. It has the

purpose to change our consciousness, so we can see our real self,

and that we'll develop devotion to God.

Although in shastra it is said that the Lord is satisfied

with 'shanta'-rasa, a neutral relationship, I would suggest anyone

to go on the path of love, because God also is a person, although He

has an impersonal form.

Who from us would be satisfied if we were treated impersonal,

somebody wants to please us but has a neutral relationship, dry and

impersonal. But then God should free us from suffering and the cycle

of birth and death.

 

The message here is 'chant the holy names, always and everywhere'.

No matter if initiated or not, from this chanting one develops a

higher taste, which will guide us, through God's hands to the desire

for more, also initiation, the guru and the path which will guide us

into the spiritual abode.

 

God is no privilege for a brahmin caste or the initiated, that are

allowed to worship him. He is the basic right of everyone. And I say

this as an initiated and brahmin... it is the nature of the soul,

our real self the atman, to love, worship and serve God. Everything

else, initiation, guru, mantras, etc are there to restore the real

nature of the soul.

 

KAD, I hope we can agree here with you, as scholar.

 

All the best wishes,

Shad

 

 

 

, "V. Sreelatha"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

>

> Dear Kad Ji,

>

> Yesterday, when I read your posting, I decided to take some time

to

> think about this first prior to responding. Obviously you are a

> great scholar, and you sincerely believe this. I am no scholar,

but

> I just as sincerely believe that faith can cause mantra-siddhi as

> well. Well, my thinking did not help much :-), but later in the

> night when I was praying, the answer came to me in a split second

> vision of two figures I glimpsed through a thick fog. One figure

was

> of a akshara, and the other, of a smiling diety, sitting cross-

> legged on a lotus. I could not really tell what this akshara was,

or

> who this diety was, but our seeming contradictions immediately

made

> sense. Let me explain.

>

> What you have written, regarding mantras having tremendous power,

> and being govered by rules and regulations like a chemical

reaction,

> is totally true. There is an elaborate theory of sound vibrations

> (sabda brahma) and corresponding reactions in our ancient texts.

> Anyway, that was what that figure of the akshara signified, it was

> the actual power of the mantra itself.

>

> Every mantra has a mantra devatha and this was the significance of

> the diety I saw. My own focus has always been towards that diety.

> The words of the mantra, and the sounds of the mantra had power,

no

> doubt, but my invocation was always targeted towards adoration of

> the diety of that mantra. That adoration, being the primary focus,

> took the mantra's inherent power and naturally turned it into a

> benediction, regardless of whether that raw power was properly set

> loose or not. You made the distinction between mantras and prayer.

I

> don't see that distiction, since every stotra, sloka, mantra,

katha,

> bhajan or commentary triggers the same feelings of awe, love,

> longing and peace in me.

>

> Anyway, I think you are right in saying that for mantras to be

> effective, a Guru should guide you, if your sole intention is to

tap

> into the pwer of the mantra, just as you need a teacher to show

you

> the correct setup in a chemistry lab, for you to perform an

> experiment. At the same time, there is also the path of Bhakti,

> where the mantra devatha himself/herself will take over and

perform

> the chemisty experiment for you, or guide you to perform it in the

> right way. Same result, different routes.

>

> Just my humble opinion, I will be delighted to hear yours and

other

> people's.

> -Sreelatha

>

>

> , "kadrudra"

<kadrudra>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Balaji and others,

> >

> > When you say, anything done with devotion and concentration with

> real

> > and just objective REALLY WORKS, do it simply!

> > Take simple routes to do it! If you feel mantras are nothing

else

> > than names of god, please go for Prayer!why mantra?

> > Both work as remedies right? Mantras are distilled with years of

> > TAPAS of sages and certainly any one can not master

> > them JUST LIKE THAT; They ARE governed by certian rules and

> > regulations and give results only when done like that.

> > If not, sometimes they act adversely just like a chemical

> > combination. SO what gives results in chanting mantra most

> > of the times is the FAITH and not the Mantra. Hope my

explanation

> is

> > simple!

> >

> > There is no restriction to know or practice mantras but with

exact

> > and proper guidance. IT NEEDS A GURU. Thats why Hinduism

> > places GURU in line with BRAHMA-VISHNU-MAHESHWARA. Without Guru,

> if

> > any one feels he can get mantra-siddhi(which really means

> > getting the result of the mantra), it is just his ignorance! So

> when

> > you want to get results, try to follow simpler ways.

> > I do know of Ramanujacharya who climbed up the temple and called

> > everyone to disclose ASHTAKSHARI mantra, well against the wish

> > of his Guru. But his aim was to make all follow the path of

> devotion

> > and not just mantra.

> >

> > LAST BIT: Persons simply disclosing mantras do well to read

about

> the

> > final tag attached to those mantras in upanishads,

> > as to why NOT TO DISCLOSE mantras

> > simply 'just like that' and what happens if it is done so.

> >

> >

> > all are at liberty to do whatever they want! but what works is

> > different!...try to know that!

> >

> > humbly,

> > kad

> >

> >

> >

> > , "kavi_bal"

> <kavi_bal>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Can you give me the meaning of the Narasimha Manra.. We would

> like

> > > to chant it for the well being of my son but know the meaning

> too ..

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Kavitha

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Shad"

> <waterpowers>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Balaji Narasimhan, Kad Rudra and all,

> > > >

> > > > I can tell a true story about Lord Narisimhadev Ea friend

of

> > mine

> > > > also is a friend of the girl who experienced the miracle

with

> > Lord

> > > > Nrisimhadev.

> > > >

> > > > But first a humble opinion to below statement on reading

> > > Mahabharata

> > > > at homeE

> > > >

> > > > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of

religious

> > > > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between

> brothers!

> > > >

> > > > Hearing this makes me very angry!

> > > > And I think this is righteous. Mahabharata WAS written for

we

> > > people

> > > > of the kali yug can read. Especially at home. This is what

> will

> > > keep

> > > > the family together!

> > > > Only a fool can make such a statement.

> > > >

> > > > Now allow me to tell a true story that happened some 10

years

> ago

> > > in

> > > > South-Africa. The father and the daughter who experienced

this

> > > event

> > > > told this story to my friend, a sannyasi and devotee of Lord

> > > > Nrisimhadev.

> > > >

> > > > This stories was also found in the newspapers, and several

> > > witnesses

> > > > of this truck-accident after this incident became devotees

of

> > Lord

> > > > Nrisimhadev.

> > > >

> > > > This happened to a simple Vaishnav family that lives there.

> They

> > > had

> > > > a back then 5 years old daughter. This girl was a great

`fan'

> of

> > > > Nrisimhadev Eshe found Him simply funny, as he looked half

> lion

> > > > half man and felt very attracted to Him.

> > > >

> > > > She often told her playmates about her favorite God, a lion

> Eand

> > > > the kids always wondered about what of God this could beEa

> > lion

> > > >

> > > > What can a five years old girl know about God, she wasn't

> > > initiated,

> > > > not even her parents, as far as I can remember.

> > > > The father of the family followed a guru and surely later

> > accepted

> > > > initiation. But there was a small Hindu-community they were

in

> > > close

> > > > touch with.

> > > >

> > > > So, one day the girl was playing outside with her ball

> together

> > > with

> > > > other kids, beside the street. The ball, how else could it

be,

> > > fell

> > > > on the street, and the girl ran after her precious ball.

There

> > was

> > > > nearly no traffic, a rarely used country road. But this time

a

> > > very

> > > > fast truck came running down the road. The girl in her play

> > didn't

> > > > see the truck coming.

> > > > The father was in the first floor of the house and saw his

> baby

> > > girl

> > > > running on the street Ebut he also saw the huge truck

coming

> > > down,

> > > > closer to his daughter with huge speed. The father yelled at

> her,

> > > > but she didn't hear him. So he jumped out of the window of

> this

> > > > first floor to save his daughter, and broke both his legs,

> when

> > > > coming down, and remained laying on the ground in pain.

> > > >

> > > > He had to watch how his little girl was hit by the truck and

> > > thrown

> > > > through the air, some 20meter away.

> > > > All children and neighbors around who observed this froze

the

> > > blood.

> > > > The father later said his only desire when he saw this was

to

> > die.

> > > > From the other direction came a police car that also

witnessed

> > the

> > > > accident. The truck went on and the policeman stopped his

car

> > > across

> > > > the street to stop him. The truck-driver hardly stopped his

> truck

> > > > and he seemed to be very drunk.

> > > >

> > > > The policeman immediately called the ambulance and ran over

to

> > the

> > > > motionless laying girl in the grass.

> > > >

> > > > The closest hospital was a small private clinic and the

> ambulance

> > > > came, but refused to take the girl, being afraid they

wouldn't

> > > have

> > > > the necessary devices and machines to help the injuries the

> girl

> > > > must have. They advised the policeman to call the main

> hospital,

> > > as

> > > > only they could efficiently help her, as her spine must be

> > broken,

> > > > etc.

> > > >

> > > > The policeman was in despair, not even knowing where the

> father

> > of

> > > > the girl was. Actually he didn't even know if the girl was

> still

> > > > alive, as he didn't dare to touch her, not knowing how

injured

> > she

> > > > was.

> > > >

> > > > However, in the end she was brought to a right hospital, the

> > > > policeman accompanied the girl, and also finally the father

> > > there.

> > > >

> > > > The chief-doctor heard then what has happened to the girl,

and

> > > they

> > > > immediately x-rayed her to see first results. The policeman

> > wanted

> > > > to rest assured how the girl was doing, and waited there to

> see

> > > the

> > > > results.

> > > > Everybody was shocked to hear what terrific accident had

> happened

> > > to

> > > > the girl.

> > > > So the nurse brought the x-ray pictures to the doctor, who

> became

> > > > very upset and started yelling at the nurse she should for-

> God's-

> > > > sake bring the right pictures, things were about death and

> life.

> > > He

> > > > threatened to fire her, as it was unacceptable to make such

> > > > mistakes.

> > > > The nurse was scared and didn't understand what was

happening.

> > > Those

> > > > were the pictures of the five year old girl that was hit by

> the

> > > > truck. The nurse wasn't aware yet of what had happened to

the

> > > girl.

> > > >

> > > > The doc said this cannot be Eon the x-ray there was not a

> single

> > > > broken bone. So, the doc all the time again and again

> > > > repeated `impossible Ecan't be'.

> > > >

> > > > Then suddenly the girl awoke from her faint and then told a

> story

> > > at

> > > > ful consciousness which made its tour through the media.

> > > >

> > > > In the moment she picked up the ball from the street, she

saw

> the

> > > > truck coming up to her. And the only thing she could do was

to

> > > yell

> > > > out for help. She didn't call for mommy or daddy, but for

her

> > > > Nrisimhadev. In this moment when the truck should hit her,

she

> > > > suddenly saw how Nrisimhadev picked her up from the ground,

> > smiled

> > > > at her, and said, `don't be afraid, nothing will happen to

> you'.

> > > > The girl continued her story that the Lord had put her on

the

> > > other

> > > > side of the street into the grass. But when putting her

down,

> He

> > > > accidentally scratched her waist, which still hurt her a

bit.

> > > >

> > > > She spoke about how beautiful Nrisimhadev was, His hair, His

> > eyes,

> > > > etc. But his claws were very sharp, He should cut themEhe

> wore a

> > > > golden dhotie, etc. The doctor didn't understand anything

and

> > told

> > > > the policeman she still was in shock and hallucinated, which

> is

> > > > normal.

> > > >

> > > > So, the girl was profoundly checked for any injuries, but

the

> > only

> > > > injury they found on her body were those scratches and the

> doctor

> > > > said this must be from a wild animal like a lion, as he had

> cases

> > > > like this before. So, he was disturbed and asked if they had

> > > brought

> > > > the girl to hospital as this one was inured by a wild

animal,

> not

> > > a

> > > > truckE

> > > > Nobody was clear what had happened. The same doctor and the

> nurse

> > > > who took care of her later became devotees, as they later

> learned

> > > > from the parent who `that lion' was.

> > > >

> > > > As we can see miracle still today happen. Not only in

> > Mahabharata,

> > > > Puranas or shastras that are more than thousands of years

old.

> > The

> > > > little girl was very attracted to this form of God, and in

her

> > > > despair she called Him for help. Lord Nrisimhadev did not

look

> if

> > > > she was initiated and have the right to call His name He

> protects

> > > > His devotees, that sincerely worship Him in their hearts.

> > > >

> > > > I am sure this litte girl was no common soul, who knows what

> she

> > > did

> > > > in her previous life. The sannyasi heard that she very much

> liked

> > > to

> > > > eat sweets, and prepared a big plate ful of sweets for her

to

> > rest

> > > > assured she will not be able to eat it all up. He gave her

the

> > > > mounted plate of sweets, she took some of the sweets and ran

> out

> > > > playing with her friends.

> > > > As soon as she was gone of the room, the sannyasi went over

> that

> > > > plate and took the rest, as for him, this was the best maha-

> > prasad

> > > > available! Who last time has met Lord Nrisimhadev? Narada

Muni

> > > > maybe?? The girl for sure, and she must be a great soul.

> > > >

> > > > Let's chant the holy names of the Lord, no matter which

> > > incarnation

> > > > and being initiated or not. Which counts is bhakti Ethe

love

> to

> > > the

> > > > Lord, and sincerity in the heart.

> > > > On the other hand, if sincere in spiritual life, one should

> not

> > > > hesitate taking initiation Ethis is very important for

making

> > > > spiritual progress. Because only under the guidance of a

sadhu

> > one

> > > > can reach God and return to His abode, the transcendental

> world.

> > > >

> > > > And KAD is right, there are plenty mantras, we can NOT chant

> > > WITHOUT

> > > > initiation, even Brahmin initiation. Which does not mean we

> > cannot

> > > > chant any holy names or worship God without initiation E

> > everybody

> > > > must make a start before taking initiation.

> > > >

> > > > Kindest regards,

> > > > Shad

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Balaji Narasimhan

> > > > <sherlockbalaji> wrote:

> > > > > Kad Rudra ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > There are several misconceptions regarding a lot of

religious

> > > > > things. I have even met people who suggest that reading

> > > > > Mahabharata at home could lead to differences between

> brothers!

> > > > >

> > > > > There is one thing about Vishnu's names - even when chanted

> > > > > wrongly, they give results. There is the story of a guy who

> > > > > chanted "Mara Prabhu" (Wood God) instead of "Amara Prabhu"

> > > > > (Eternal God). Vishnu was still pleased because, in

> > > > > Naimisaranyam, He lives as a forest.

> > > > >

> > > > > Narasimha too, I have heard so many things - but, end of

the

> > > > > day, based on personal experience, I have found nobody

else

> to

> > > > > be as helpful. Not Srinivasa, not Rama, not Krishna.

> > > > >

> > > > > I usually just request people to pray to God, and never

> mention

> > > > > any mantras by name. However, Kavita ji was talking of

> something

> > > > > critical happening to her son. The Narasimha Mantra I

> mentioned

> > > > > talks also about Narasimha being the death of death. This

is

> the

> > > > > principal reason why I suggested this specific mantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Incidentally, I learnt this Mantra all by myself. I recite

it

> > > > > for around two hours every day - while driving my bike to

> office

> > > > > and back home. Countless times, I have escaped accidents

in

> the

> > > > > nick of time, and though the chant begins with "Ugram"

> (Anger),

> > > > > I have also controlled my anger with this mantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think that, beyond initiation by a Guru, etc, which is

> > > > > actually the right way, it is important that we have full

> faith.

> > > > > I learnt this Mantra by myself, but my faith in this

mantra

> is

> > > > > immense, and maybe this is what is protecting me!

> > > > >

> > > > > Swami Desika, one of the seers whom I worship, says that

it

> is

> > > > > only other animals that fear the lion. The cubs of the lion

> > > > > don't fear it, and, on the contrary, depend upon it for

> > > > > protection. Narasimha too is defined as having one eye like

> > > > > Surya, which looked with fury upon Hiranyakashipu, while

the

> > > > > other eye, which gazed tenderly upon Prahalada, was

pleasant

> > > > > like Chandra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, I belong to the Ahobilam Mutt. In Ahobilam, a Nava

> > > > > Narasimha Kshetra, the nine forms of Narasimha are

> propitated to

> > > > > get rid of afflictions due to the Nava Grahas. The Nava

> Grahas

> > > > > themselves are supposed to have worshipped Narasimha to rid

> > > > > themselves of their afflictions!

> > > > >

> > > > > End of the day, faith in the mantra is perhaps greater

than

> the

> > > > > mantra itself!

> > > > >

> > > > >

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