Spirituality, Shastra.

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Dear List,

 

It's my two bit opinion but I believe that the birth of

knowledge is thought,

 

So, first, thought (thinking) gives birth to an idea which

is then refined to something called theory.

This theory is expounded and mellowed, much in the manner

this discussion is going and practicable ideas or theory is then

utilised practically.

This practice is repetitively refined into what is called

skill.

Skill is then refined with other streams of knowledge adding

inputs into what is called science.

Science again is used to refine and evolve the original base

theory into a more efficient method of utilisation which is then

called technology. Technological advancement incidentally crowns

the top when at that stage the original theory and its practice have

a very large user base and from this user base, we have the

birth of exponents who lend individual colour, their own expression

of what they are able to envisage in this technology or science

and this is then art.

In short, the art level allows for freedom of individual

expression within the boundaries of "science", may / may not be be

aided by technology, and is unique within the comforting and

conforming realm.

 

Thusly, we have evolution from the idea to the art.

 

Ajay

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Good post !

--- El Spook <nagrecha wrote:

 

>

> Dear List,

>

> It's my two bit opinion but I believe that the

> birth of

> knowledge is thought,

>

> So, first, thought (thinking) gives birth to an

> idea which

> is then refined to something called theory.

> This theory is expounded and mellowed, much in the

> manner

> this discussion is going and practicable ideas or

> theory is then

> utilised practically.

> This practice is repetitively refined into what is

> called

> skill.

> Skill is then refined with other streams of

> knowledge adding

> inputs into what is called science.

> Science again is used to refine and evolve the

> original base

> theory into a more efficient method of utilisation

> which is then

> called technology. Technological advancement

> incidentally crowns

> the top when at that stage the original theory and

> its practice have

> a very large user base and from this user base, we

> have the

> birth of exponents who lend individual colour, their

> own expression

> of what they are able to envisage in this

> technology or science

> and this is then art.

> In short, the art level allows for freedom of

> individual

> expression within the boundaries of "science", may /

> may not be be

> aided by technology, and is unique within the

> comforting and

> conforming realm.

>

> Thusly, we have evolution from the idea to the art.

>

> Ajay

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In the jungle of waves and particles, awareness to that fleeting wisp

of consciousness we call a thought, perhaps. As you indicated, it

might very well be that these do not arise out of volition, though

awareness is often if not always born out of will.

 

But there must be a zone of silence that meditators clamour for, the

zone of thoughtlessness, when or where the jungle stands still. Where

trees do not fall, even when no one is listening.

 

 

 

, "El Spook" <nagrecha@v...>

wrote:

>

> That was a superb question.

>

> In fact, the question itself, being thoughtful gives birth to a

> whole new lot of thought on thought on the birth of thought.

>

>

> Thought itself I believe is not born of a free volition but is the

> question that is asked as we go through a karmic cycle of many

lifes

> and deaths in order to experience all that a soul needs to discover

> in its journey, till one day, it merges back into the creator, just

> like a wayward sheep returns to its fold having temporarily enjoyed

> the benefit of freedom from the flock.

> Thought is the result of the spillover of karmic consciousness that

> is left behind as memory unretentive (is it?) that draws you back

> into the comfort of the experienced.

> Anything that is "created" or "discovered" is the result of a

> current epoch, an age that is currently prevailing as in Kal Youg,

> but this does not imply it was hitherto unknown or unexperienced or

> undiscovered. Since Bell "invented" the phone and technology mass

> produced it, and Marconi likewise with the wireless, we have seen

> both evlove from two distinct channels into one converged

refination

> called cellular, but this does not imply it wasnt ther. Since two

> inventions inspired a third, what seeded them? It was thought alone

> that seeded thought.

>

> The complexity of your questions lies in a very simple yet thought

> provoking answer. As Humans, we have comlicated our life with

logic,

> religion, science and comprehension. Are animals unworthy or lower,

> they do think and they do it more uninhibited than we can. They

> impart skills without schools, grace without the power to

comprehend

> it and fulfil the same physical functions as a human could or

would.

>

> We are said to be mentally superior, but I feel the animal closer

to

> sprituality since it does not perform for reason, it merely in a

> basal, banal existence as a co-lifeform on this planet goes through

> life and death impassively without , cigarettes,

alcohol,

> nuclear power or even pizza, coke and a knowledge of healthy

> lifestyle, etc., It doesn't need a Jane Fonda video to stay in

shape

> but thinks intelligently when it comes to performing its functions.

>

> It doesn't need a doctor to advise a CAT scan because it follows

one

> simple rule... if the pain doesn't go away, I will and I'm prepared.

>

> Food for Thought? Anyone?

>

> Ajay