Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Dear Krishnan ji, Nice to hear from you... Its great that you was drived in right directions. If one understands shajata of Life then All the confusion of free will and Predeterminism vanishes........because in anyway you are growing. In my case also it was Rahu who gave me a misterious detatchment from all things.Also Ketu in 10H gave me detachment from money/power making.Rather i had to struggle with myself to put my energies in that side. And by His grace i always found every obstacle as it was a need or wish of mine.this may seem a bit baseless thing to someone but failures/obstacles are our need in this Life.please keep in mind that everyone's life is a Lesson plan (as previously discussed on list). Just like a boxer not performing well needs a motivation.After trying all things he demands a failure thinking showing bad performance is worse that a failure.so that he may try next time.This is not acceptance of failure helplessly ..its a demand for motivation. same is life....every obstacle has a reason.... Someone in deep knows what is next need to ascend the mind towards spiritual life... as a blind person is gifted something else ........ In currently running Rahu/mars Dasha i felt a balance between my inner life and worldly life. Now my JUp Dasha is going to start.JUp is 9th & 12 th Lord and is placed in 5th(Leo) alone.But my JUP is not so strong. Sincerely... Amit , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dera Shri Amitji, > Creation of this univers as well as all living being are endowed with the Shaj Marg.But then if we have to consider ouraelves either to improve our previous karmas or to erode them further,there will be deviance in the thoughts and the balance either way distrubs the way of sahaj marg.Certainly those sukarmas contribute to: > "people who have a well developed Sahaj Marg". > For ex in my own case I was passing through Rahu dasa.My rahu is placed with mars in 6th in Taurus. > It brought me a good image, a sports and athletic bent also a fear of unknown.As I was entering into Jupiter dasa certainly some shocks in life and took me to a place where I was to get involved in a development(including construction) of a temple and before that a great opportunity to be in the vicinity of agreat Peethadhipati.From then on wards the progress of life and including frequent vists to the Lord Balaji at the Seven Hills made different impact.i do not know whether it brought a kind of awakening of the spirit of Sahaja marg.I can only say it have a great positive impact despite the fact of facing turbulence in life events. > Now a days a day will not pass without a prayer and bowing down before the Supreem Lord and nearness of my residence to temples leads me to pay my obeissance to these lords. > Life is really a different melody as I crave to listen to Vishnu Sahasranamam of late M.S every day morning 7.30 A.M before I leave to my work place. > God is Kind > krishnan > > > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > Surya ji, > It was my little understanding ,my confusions or the lack of > conviction by the person who introduced me to sahaj marg. > Actually my Spiritual life was very much irregular in terms of > practices. > My spiritual urges started with expressing themselves in poems > offered to God and Life. > I used to search answers to my questions .....obviously through > contemplating on them and surfing texts,books,articles. > At some time i got inspired of SWAMI VIVEKANAND.While Contemmplating > on any question whenever i used to reached at some state of mind > explaning the desired answer to me, very next to it i used to get the > answers in His words somewhere in newsPaper/book/magazine etc. > This was amazing. > After some time i got inclined to raja Yoga.I practiced it for > sometime.At some point of time i came in touch of a person who > introduced me to Sahaj marg of Sri ramaChandra Mission. > there was no special reason for not to continue with Sahaj > Marg......only i was much inclined towards raja yoga at that time,I > was very irregular in Practices,my immature views may be the > reasons....but i do not know specifically. > I didn't make much progress in Raja Yoga also. > Later i myself found a Way of thinking of Sahaj Jeevan developed in > me. > I used to discuss these thoughts with my friends and people around > and never gave attention that there are people who have a well > developed Sahaj Marg. > Also i found always a push towards a particular way of learning > through living/folowing some practices. > Now i have been pushed to learn astrology. > I think the ways of practices are immaterial.....as i found myself > indulged in different ways to spiritual life and got something > always. > Also i never chanted mantras enough but in some state i got > attracted to some mantra and for a little time i chanted that and > experienced its power and spiritual message. > At some time i bcame devotee of shiva and at soem time of Krishna. > please notice it was not a hopping of a fickle minded person..it was > due to deep inspirations. > this was in RAHU Mahadasha.........It gave me immense and many type > of sufferings in worldly sense but many type of immense spiritual > experiences finally. > Thanks for sharing your experiences Krishnan ji.Will like to hear > from you. > > Learning.......... > Humbly...... > Amit Kumar > > > > > , surya vishnubhotla > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > I was wondering what led you not to continue with > > sahaj marg? > > > > Thanks for your views Krishnanji! > > > > Surya > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > ji Amitji, > > > Namaskar.Even I was also for a short time in my > > > earlier years of life believer in sahaja > > > margs.Infact I attended couple of discourses and > > > read some material too. > > > Finally as of now I believe in making myself > > > available and help them,particularly those who have > > > some difficult problems in life.Miraculously things > > > started working in their favour.Definetely service > > > to and service to humanity have improved my > > > confidence and instilled more faith on paryers.Bit > > > of yoga in the early morning with prayer is the > > > easiest and practiceable approach to initiate the > > > path of spirtualism. > > > Iam sorry that I have intruded into your mails and > > > offered my views.maY I request that both of you > > > would bear with me? > > > with regards > > > krishnan > > > > > > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Surya ji, > > > I have heard of sahaj marg. > > > In early days of my search for a spiritual direction > > > i came to know > > > about it. > > > But at that time i could not accept it > > > effective....Also i was in > > > very teen-age that time.What i said ....i said it > > > from my experience > > > i gained in my spiritual struggle.I saw a lot of Ups > > > and > > > downs ....faced a lot of confusions and tried to > > > resolve > > > them....hence could say all that. > > > I tried to follow Raja-Yoga .But all was very > > > irregular,zig-zag...in > > > my case. > > > I was not a believer of astrology... i used to > > > favour free will > > > concept very much. and i see working it dramatically > > > in my life. but > > > in last few years i was pushed to dig deep in > > > concept of > > > Predeterminism.And i saw it working dramatically > > > also. > > > Thats why i started learning astrology. > > > Sincerely > > > Amit kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , surya > > > vishnubhotla > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > I am not sure if you have ever heard of Sahaj > > > Marg, > > > > per what I know their entire philosophy is devoted > > > to > > > > cleaning these footprints (called impressions by > > > them) > > > > through shakti path from a guru ... > > > > > > > > I just shared with you because I saw the > > > connection > > > > between what you said and what they believed ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ji Surya ji,getting rid of these imprints is > > > > > necessary for spiritual > > > > > progress. > > > > > How can we do that is a question to be answered. > > > > > One Person said me "First distinguish among your > > > > > desires.As per > > > > > priority choose which you can fulfill easily and > > > > > leave which can't be" > > > > > Also i feel that one has to strive hard for > > > > > spiritual progress > > > > > called 'Adhyatmik Purusharth'. generally people > > > are > > > > > very lazy towards > > > > > spiritual progress. > > > > > Also after a lot of questioning to people and > > > > > serching answers in > > > > > works of saints i concluded that spiritual > > > progress > > > > > is not a victim > > > > > of Destiny. > > > > > Krishna himself said in Gita "It doesn't matter > > > How > > > > > sinful a person > > > > > was If he comes to my shelter, gets me." > > > > > Thnaks and regards > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , surya > > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > Good views Amit, > > > > > > > > > > > > But dont you think getting rid of these > > > imprints > > > > > is > > > > > > necessary for spiritual progress? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > > > > > > You are right reaching that pure state is > > > the > > > > > way to > > > > > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > Also you mntioned abt a practiceable and > > > lasting > > > > > > > approach. > > > > > > > We all see that sometimes we see ourself > > > purer > > > > > than > > > > > > > ever... > > > > > > > From where this purity comes wwe do not > > > > > know...and > > > > > > > aftera time it > > > > > > > vanishes. > > > > > > > but it leaves an imprint on our heart... > > > > > > > a new identity of ourselve > > > > > > > And our behaviour ,vision changes. > > > > > > > this we can say spiritual progress. > > > > > > > but generally its very slow . > > > > > > > somewhere in books of Yoga i have read that > > > "In > > > > > his > > > > > > > life every Human > > > > > > > gets a chance when he feels a little of > > > Brahma > > > > > > > through his mind" > > > > > > > naturally our other traits,habits,emotions > > > > > > > overshadows the urge for > > > > > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > same way an impulse of anger also creates an > > > > > imprint > > > > > > > on heart.... > > > > > > > and gets counted in our identity. > > > > > > > I think a practiceable approch to > > > Spirituality > > > > > is to > > > > > > > try to vanish > > > > > > > these all negative traits of human nature > > > and > > > > > let > > > > > > > all spiritual > > > > > > > qualities get cultivated. > > > > > > > Now every one will face a totally different > > > > > issue in > > > > > > > his life. > > > > > > > For example practicing truthfulness and > > > honesty > > > > > may > > > > > > > be very easy(i am > > > > > > > talking in context of external circumtances) > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > > person having a > > > > > > > life where no such situation arises to test > > > his > > > > > > > truthfulness or > > > > > > > honesty....on the other hand some other > > > person > > > > > works > > > > > > > in a corrupt > > > > > > > office where he has to face it everyday in > > > every > > > > > > > matter...and he has > > > > > > > to struggle for keeping his honesty/truth. > > > > > > > so all is variable. > > > > > > > We all are in a kind of bondage due to our > > > very > > > > > own > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > obstructions on the path of purity > > > > > /spirituality. > > > > > > > One has to nurture his spiritual nature in > > > mid > > > > > of > > > > > > > day to day battle > > > > > > > of KARMA . > > > > > > > Humbly > > > > > > > Amit Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \, > > > vattem > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Dear Amit ji, The essence of life has precisely been told by you in the following: every obstacle has a reason i always found every obstacle as it was a need or wish of mine. if we have to be self confident for any kind of venture(to ascend),you need to invent(problem)/obstacles.The brainstorm that follows has an answer, a solution and a clarity of approach to pursue for future with more vigour.Admit not you tired.Admit not that you are lost.There is always at the end of tunnel. Iam in perfect wave length with your views.may be in a fiery sign of leo ruled by visionary,placement of ketu along with jupiter receiving the energy of Bhoomi Putra(mars) makes issues more practical and down to earth Rahu in kumbha? 11th H is leading the way to your cherishes destination with the beningn grace of jupiter. certainly the lagna lords dasa has to make the position clear even after some obstacles and revitalising the the goals. Sincerely krishnan amit_call <amit_call wrote: Dear Krishnan ji, Nice to hear from you... Its great that you was drived in right directions. If one understands shajata of Life then All the confusion of free will and Predeterminism vanishes........because in anyway you are growing. In my case also it was Rahu who gave me a misterious detatchment from all things.Also Ketu in 10H gave me detachment from money/power making.Rather i had to struggle with myself to put my energies in that side. And by His grace i always found every obstacle as it was a need or wish of mine.this may seem a bit baseless thing to someone but failures/obstacles are our need in this Life.please keep in mind that everyone's life is a Lesson plan (as previously discussed on list). Just like a boxer not performing well needs a motivation.After trying all things he demands a failure thinking showing bad performance is worse that a failure.so that he may try next time.This is not acceptance of failure helplessly ..its a demand for motivation. same is life....every obstacle has a reason.... Someone in deep knows what is next need to ascend the mind towards spiritual life... as a blind person is gifted something else ........ In currently running Rahu/mars Dasha i felt a balance between my inner life and worldly life. Now my JUp Dasha is going to start.JUp is 9th & 12 th Lord and is placed in 5th(Leo) alone.But my JUP is not so strong. Sincerely... Amit , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dera Shri Amitji, > Creation of this univers as well as all living being are endowed with the Shaj Marg.But then if we have to consider ouraelves either to improve our previous karmas or to erode them further,there will be deviance in the thoughts and the balance either way distrubs the way of sahaj marg.Certainly those sukarmas contribute to: > "people who have a well developed Sahaj Marg". > For ex in my own case I was passing through Rahu dasa.My rahu is placed with mars in 6th in Taurus. > It brought me a good image, a sports and athletic bent also a fear of unknown.As I was entering into Jupiter dasa certainly some shocks in life and took me to a place where I was to get involved in a development(including construction) of a temple and before that a great opportunity to be in the vicinity of agreat Peethadhipati.From then on wards the progress of life and including frequent vists to the Lord Balaji at the Seven Hills made different impact.i do not know whether it brought a kind of awakening of the spirit of Sahaja marg.I can only say it have a great positive impact despite the fact of facing turbulence in life events. > Now a days a day will not pass without a prayer and bowing down before the Supreem Lord and nearness of my residence to temples leads me to pay my obeissance to these lords. > Life is really a different melody as I crave to listen to Vishnu Sahasranamam of late M.S every day morning 7.30 A.M before I leave to my work place. > God is Kind > krishnan > > > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > Surya ji, > It was my little understanding ,my confusions or the lack of > conviction by the person who introduced me to sahaj marg. > Actually my Spiritual life was very much irregular in terms of > practices. > My spiritual urges started with expressing themselves in poems > offered to God and Life. > I used to search answers to my questions .....obviously through > contemplating on them and surfing texts,books,articles. > At some time i got inspired of SWAMI VIVEKANAND.While Contemmplating > on any question whenever i used to reached at some state of mind > explaning the desired answer to me, very next to it i used to get the > answers in His words somewhere in newsPaper/book/magazine etc. > This was amazing. > After some time i got inclined to raja Yoga.I practiced it for > sometime.At some point of time i came in touch of a person who > introduced me to Sahaj marg of Sri ramaChandra Mission. > there was no special reason for not to continue with Sahaj > Marg......only i was much inclined towards raja yoga at that time,I > was very irregular in Practices,my immature views may be the > reasons....but i do not know specifically. > I didn't make much progress in Raja Yoga also. > Later i myself found a Way of thinking of Sahaj Jeevan developed in > me. > I used to discuss these thoughts with my friends and people around > and never gave attention that there are people who have a well > developed Sahaj Marg. > Also i found always a push towards a particular way of learning > through living/folowing some practices. > Now i have been pushed to learn astrology. > I think the ways of practices are immaterial.....as i found myself > indulged in different ways to spiritual life and got something > always. > Also i never chanted mantras enough but in some state i got > attracted to some mantra and for a little time i chanted that and > experienced its power and spiritual message. > At some time i bcame devotee of shiva and at soem time of Krishna. > please notice it was not a hopping of a fickle minded person..it was > due to deep inspirations. > this was in RAHU Mahadasha.........It gave me immense and many type > of sufferings in worldly sense but many type of immense spiritual > experiences finally. > Thanks for sharing your experiences Krishnan ji.Will like to hear > from you. > > Learning.......... > Humbly...... > Amit Kumar > > > > > , surya vishnubhotla > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > I was wondering what led you not to continue with > > sahaj marg? > > > > Thanks for your views Krishnanji! > > > > Surya > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > ji Amitji, > > > Namaskar.Even I was also for a short time in my > > > earlier years of life believer in sahaja > > > margs.Infact I attended couple of discourses and > > > read some material too. > > > Finally as of now I believe in making myself > > > available and help them,particularly those who have > > > some difficult problems in life.Miraculously things > > > started working in their favour.Definetely service > > > to and service to humanity have improved my > > > confidence and instilled more faith on paryers.Bit > > > of yoga in the early morning with prayer is the > > > easiest and practiceable approach to initiate the > > > path of spirtualism. > > > Iam sorry that I have intruded into your mails and > > > offered my views.maY I request that both of you > > > would bear with me? > > > with regards > > > krishnan > > > > > > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Surya ji, > > > I have heard of sahaj marg. > > > In early days of my search for a spiritual direction > > > i came to know > > > about it. > > > But at that time i could not accept it > > > effective....Also i was in > > > very teen-age that time.What i said ....i said it > > > from my experience > > > i gained in my spiritual struggle.I saw a lot of Ups > > > and > > > downs ....faced a lot of confusions and tried to > > > resolve > > > them....hence could say all that. > > > I tried to follow Raja-Yoga .But all was very > > > irregular,zig-zag...in > > > my case. > > > I was not a believer of astrology... i used to > > > favour free will > > > concept very much. and i see working it dramatically > > > in my life. but > > > in last few years i was pushed to dig deep in > > > concept of > > > Predeterminism.And i saw it working dramatically > > > also. > > > Thats why i started learning astrology. > > > Sincerely > > > Amit kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , surya > > > vishnubhotla > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > I am not sure if you have ever heard of Sahaj > > > Marg, > > > > per what I know their entire philosophy is devoted > > > to > > > > cleaning these footprints (called impressions by > > > them) > > > > through shakti path from a guru ... > > > > > > > > I just shared with you because I saw the > > > connection > > > > between what you said and what they believed ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ji Surya ji,getting rid of these imprints is > > > > > necessary for spiritual > > > > > progress. > > > > > How can we do that is a question to be answered. > > > > > One Person said me "First distinguish among your > > > > > desires.As per > > > > > priority choose which you can fulfill easily and > > > > > leave which can't be" > > > > > Also i feel that one has to strive hard for > > > > > spiritual progress > > > > > called 'Adhyatmik Purusharth'. generally people > > > are > > > > > very lazy towards > > > > > spiritual progress. > > > > > Also after a lot of questioning to people and > > > > > serching answers in > > > > > works of saints i concluded that spiritual > > > progress > > > > > is not a victim > > > > > of Destiny. > > > > > Krishna himself said in Gita "It doesn't matter > > > How > > > > > sinful a person > > > > > was If he comes to my shelter, gets me." > > > > > Thnaks and regards > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , surya > > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > Good views Amit, > > > > > > > > > > > > But dont you think getting rid of these > > > imprints > > > > > is > > > > > > necessary for spiritual progress? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > > > > > > You are right reaching that pure state is > > > the > > > > > way to > > > > > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > Also you mntioned abt a practiceable and > > > lasting > > > > > > > approach. > > > > > > > We all see that sometimes we see ourself > > > purer > > > > > than > > > > > > > ever... > > > > > > > From where this purity comes wwe do not > > > > > know...and > > > > > > > aftera time it > > > > > > > vanishes. > > > > > > > but it leaves an imprint on our heart... > > > > > > > a new identity of ourselve > > > > > > > And our behaviour ,vision changes. > > > > > > > this we can say spiritual progress. > > > > > > > but generally its very slow . > > > > > > > somewhere in books of Yoga i have read that > > > "In > > > > > his > > > > > > > life every Human > > > > > > > gets a chance when he feels a little of > > > Brahma > > > > > > > through his mind" > > > > > > > naturally our other traits,habits,emotions > > > > > > > overshadows the urge for > > > > > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > same way an impulse of anger also creates an > > > > > imprint > > > > > > > on heart.... > > > > > > > and gets counted in our identity. > > > > > > > I think a practiceable approch to > > > Spirituality > > > > > is to > > > > > > > try to vanish > > > > > > > these all negative traits of human nature > > > and > > > > > let > > > > > > > all spiritual > > > > > > > qualities get cultivated. > > > > > > > Now every one will face a totally different > > > > > issue in > > > > > > > his life. > > > > > > > For example practicing truthfulness and > > > honesty > > > > > may > > > > > > > be very easy(i am > > > > > > > talking in context of external circumtances) > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > > person having a > > > > > > > life where no such situation arises to test > > > his > > > > > > > truthfulness or > > > > > > > honesty....on the other hand some other > > > person > > > > > works > > > > > > > in a corrupt > > > > > > > office where he has to face it everyday in > > > every > > > > > > > matter...and he has > > > > > > > to struggle for keeping his honesty/truth. > > > > > > > so all is variable. > > > > > > > We all are in a kind of bondage due to our > > > very > > > > > own > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > obstructions on the path of purity > > > > > /spirituality. > > > > > > > One has to nurture his spiritual nature in > > > mid > > > > > of > > > > > > > day to day battle > > > > > > > of KARMA . > > > > > > > Humbly > > > > > > > Amit Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \, > > > vattem > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 particularly the 'repeating' obstacle or repeating theme! When one is ready to 'fly', the kind Ma gives that last bit of push! But the 'angel' must trust Her and himself and *walk* to the edge of the precipice before that push comes and he realizes that he can fly! Someday, I will figure out the astrology of that tiny 'push' that makes static energy turn into dynamic energy, or that makes the ice- cube melt without the temperature changing one bit. , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dear Amit ji, > The essence of life has precisely been told by you in the following: > > every obstacle has a reason > > i always found every obstacle as it was a need or > wish of mine. > if we have to be self confident for any kind of venture(to ascend),you need to invent(problem)/obstacles.The brainstorm that follows has an answer, a solution and a clarity of approach to pursue for future with more vigour.Admit not you tired.Admit not that you are lost.There is always at the end of tunnel. > Iam in perfect wave length with your views.may be in a fiery sign of leo ruled by visionary,placement of ketu along with jupiter receiving the energy of Bhoomi Putra(mars) makes issues more practical and down to earth > Rahu in kumbha? 11th H is leading the way to your cherishes destination with the beningn grace of jupiter. > certainly the lagna lords dasa has to make the position clear even after some obstacles and revitalising the the goals. > Sincerely > krishnan > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > Dear Krishnan ji, > Nice to hear from you... > Its great that you was drived in right directions. > If one understands shajata of Life then All the confusion of free > will and Predeterminism vanishes........because in anyway you are > growing. > In my case also it was Rahu who gave me a misterious detatchment from > all things.Also Ketu in 10H gave me detachment from money/power > making.Rather i had to struggle with myself to put my energies in > that side. > And by His grace i always found every obstacle as it was a need or > wish of mine.this may seem a bit baseless thing to someone but > failures/obstacles are our need in this Life.please keep in mind that > everyone's life is a Lesson plan (as previously discussed on list). > Just like a boxer not performing well needs a motivation.After trying > all things he demands a failure thinking showing bad performance is > worse that a failure.so that he may try next time.This is not > acceptance of failure helplessly ..its a demand for motivation. > same is life....every obstacle has a reason.... > Someone in deep knows what is next need to ascend the mind towards > spiritual life... > as a blind person is gifted something else ........ > In currently running Rahu/mars Dasha i felt a balance between my > inner life and worldly life. > Now my JUp Dasha is going to start.JUp is 9th & 12 th Lord and is > placed in 5th(Leo) alone.But my JUP is not so strong. > > Sincerely... > Amit > > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dera Shri Amitji, > > Creation of this univers as well as all living being are endowed > with the Shaj Marg.But then if we have to consider ouraelves either > to improve our previous karmas or to erode them further,there will be > deviance in the thoughts and the balance either way distrubs the way > of sahaj marg.Certainly those sukarmas contribute to: > > "people who have a well developed Sahaj Marg". > > For ex in my own case I was passing through Rahu dasa.My rahu is > placed with mars in 6th in Taurus. > > It brought me a good image, a sports and athletic bent also a fear > of unknown.As I was entering into Jupiter dasa certainly some shocks > in life and took me to a place where I was to get involved in a > development(including construction) of a temple and before that a > great opportunity to be in the vicinity of agreat Peethadhipati.From > then on wards the progress of life and including frequent vists to > the Lord Balaji at the Seven Hills made different impact.i do not > know whether it brought a kind of awakening of the spirit of Sahaja > marg.I can only say it have a great positive impact despite the fact > of facing turbulence in life events. > > Now a days a day will not pass without a prayer and bowing down > before the Supreem Lord and nearness of my residence to temples leads > me to pay my obeissance to these lords. > > Life is really a different melody as I crave to listen to Vishnu > Sahasranamam of late M.S every day morning 7.30 A.M before I leave to > my work place. > > God is Kind > > krishnan > > > > > > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > Surya ji, > > It was my little understanding ,my confusions or the lack of > > conviction by the person who introduced me to sahaj marg. > > Actually my Spiritual life was very much irregular in terms of > > practices. > > My spiritual urges started with expressing themselves in poems > > offered to God and Life. > > I used to search answers to my questions .....obviously through > > contemplating on them and surfing texts,books,articles. > > At some time i got inspired of SWAMI VIVEKANAND.While > Contemmplating > > on any question whenever i used to reached at some state of mind > > explaning the desired answer to me, very next to it i used to get > the > > answers in His words somewhere in newsPaper/book/magazine etc. > > This was amazing. > > After some time i got inclined to raja Yoga.I practiced it for > > sometime.At some point of time i came in touch of a person who > > introduced me to Sahaj marg of Sri ramaChandra Mission. > > there was no special reason for not to continue with Sahaj > > Marg......only i was much inclined towards raja yoga at that time,I > > was very irregular in Practices,my immature views may be the > > reasons....but i do not know specifically. > > I didn't make much progress in Raja Yoga also. > > Later i myself found a Way of thinking of Sahaj Jeevan developed in > > me. > > I used to discuss these thoughts with my friends and people around > > and never gave attention that there are people who have a well > > developed Sahaj Marg. > > Also i found always a push towards a particular way of learning > > through living/folowing some practices. > > Now i have been pushed to learn astrology. > > I think the ways of practices are immaterial.....as i found myself > > indulged in different ways to spiritual life and got something > > always. > > Also i never chanted mantras enough but in some state i got > > attracted to some mantra and for a little time i chanted that and > > experienced its power and spiritual message. > > At some time i bcame devotee of shiva and at soem time of Krishna. > > please notice it was not a hopping of a fickle minded person..it > was > > due to deep inspirations. > > this was in RAHU Mahadasha.........It gave me immense and many type > > of sufferings in worldly sense but many type of immense spiritual > > experiences finally. > > Thanks for sharing your experiences Krishnan ji.Will like to hear > > from you. > > > > Learning.......... > > Humbly...... > > Amit Kumar > > > > > > > > > > , surya vishnubhotla > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > I was wondering what led you not to continue with > > > sahaj marg? > > > > > > Thanks for your views Krishnanji! > > > > > > Surya > > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > ji Amitji, > > > > Namaskar.Even I was also for a short time in my > > > > earlier years of life believer in sahaja > > > > margs.Infact I attended couple of discourses and > > > > read some material too. > > > > Finally as of now I believe in making myself > > > > available and help them,particularly those who have > > > > some difficult problems in life.Miraculously things > > > > started working in their favour.Definetely service > > > > to and service to humanity have improved my > > > > confidence and instilled more faith on paryers.Bit > > > > of yoga in the early morning with prayer is the > > > > easiest and practiceable approach to initiate the > > > > path of spirtualism. > > > > Iam sorry that I have intruded into your mails and > > > > offered my views.maY I request that both of you > > > > would bear with me? > > > > with regards > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Surya ji, > > > > I have heard of sahaj marg. > > > > In early days of my search for a spiritual direction > > > > i came to know > > > > about it. > > > > But at that time i could not accept it > > > > effective....Also i was in > > > > very teen-age that time.What i said ....i said it > > > > from my experience > > > > i gained in my spiritual struggle.I saw a lot of Ups > > > > and > > > > downs ....faced a lot of confusions and tried to > > > > resolve > > > > them....hence could say all that. > > > > I tried to follow Raja-Yoga .But all was very > > > > irregular,zig-zag...in > > > > my case. > > > > I was not a believer of astrology... i used to > > > > favour free will > > > > concept very much. and i see working it dramatically > > > > in my life. but > > > > in last few years i was pushed to dig deep in > > > > concept of > > > > Predeterminism.And i saw it working dramatically > > > > also. > > > > Thats why i started learning astrology. > > > > Sincerely > > > > Amit kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , surya > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure if you have ever heard of Sahaj > > > > Marg, > > > > > per what I know their entire philosophy is devoted > > > > to > > > > > cleaning these footprints (called impressions by > > > > them) > > > > > through shakti path from a guru ... > > > > > > > > > > I just shared with you because I saw the > > > > connection > > > > > between what you said and what they believed ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ji Surya ji,getting rid of these imprints is > > > > > > necessary for spiritual > > > > > > progress. > > > > > > How can we do that is a question to be answered. > > > > > > One Person said me "First distinguish among your > > > > > > desires.As per > > > > > > priority choose which you can fulfill easily and > > > > > > leave which can't be" > > > > > > Also i feel that one has to strive hard for > > > > > > spiritual progress > > > > > > called 'Adhyatmik Purusharth'. generally people > > > > are > > > > > > very lazy towards > > > > > > spiritual progress. > > > > > > Also after a lot of questioning to people and > > > > > > serching answers in > > > > > > works of saints i concluded that spiritual > > > > progress > > > > > > is not a victim > > > > > > of Destiny. > > > > > > Krishna himself said in Gita "It doesn't matter > > > > How > > > > > > sinful a person > > > > > > was If he comes to my shelter, gets me." > > > > > > Thnaks and regards > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , surya > > > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > > Good views Amit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But dont you think getting rid of these > > > > imprints > > > > > > is > > > > > > > necessary for spiritual progress? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > > > > > > > You are right reaching that pure state is > > > > the > > > > > > way to > > > > > > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > > Also you mntioned abt a practiceable and > > > > lasting > > > > > > > > approach. > > > > > > > > We all see that sometimes we see ourself > > > > purer > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > ever... > > > > > > > > From where this purity comes wwe do not > > > > > > know...and > > > > > > > > aftera time it > > > > > > > > vanishes. > > > > > > > > but it leaves an imprint on our heart... > > > > > > > > a new identity of ourselve > > > > > > > > And our behaviour ,vision changes. > > > > > > > > this we can say spiritual progress. > > > > > > > > but generally its very slow . > > > > > > > > somewhere in books of Yoga i have read that > > > > "In > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > life every Human > > > > > > > > gets a chance when he feels a little of > > > > Brahma > > > > > > > > through his mind" > > > > > > > > naturally our other traits,habits,emotions > > > > > > > > overshadows the urge for > > > > > > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > > same way an impulse of anger also creates an > > > > > > imprint > > > > > > > > on heart.... > > > > > > > > and gets counted in our identity. > > > > > > > > I think a practiceable approch to > > > > Spirituality > > > > > > is to > > > > > > > > try to vanish > > > > > > > > these all negative traits of human nature > > > > and > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > all spiritual > > > > > > > > qualities get cultivated. > > > > > > > > Now every one will face a totally different > > > > > > issue in > > > > > > > > his life. > > > > > > > > For example practicing truthfulness and > > > > honesty > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > be very easy(i am > > > > > > > > talking in context of external circumtances) > > > > for > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > person having a > > > > > > > > life where no such situation arises to test > > > > his > > > > > > > > truthfulness or > > > > > > > > honesty....on the other hand some other > > > > person > > > > > > works > > > > > > > > in a corrupt > > > > > > > > office where he has to face it everyday in > > > > every > > > > > > > > matter...and he has > > > > > > > > to struggle for keeping his honesty/truth. > > > > > > > > so all is variable. > > > > > > > > We all are in a kind of bondage due to our > > > > very > > > > > > own > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > obstructions on the path of purity > > > > > > /spirituality. > > > > > > > > One has to nurture his spiritual nature in > > > > mid > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > day to day battle > > > > > > > > of KARMA . > > > > > > > > Humbly > > > > > > > > Amit Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \, > > > > vattem > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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