Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 The Unfold truth ,the Unlit Light lying in *Tamas* ,lost in Caprice.... bewildered of disguise repeats itself as it is. the kind Ma has to send the ripples to shake the *Pramad* . Even Hanuman ji forgot his strength ..... And was given Obstacles to express himself..... >But > the 'angel' must trust Her and himself and *walk* to the edge of the > precipice before that push comes and he realizes that he can fly! someday,I will enjoy astrologgy of that tiny 'push'........ Sincerely... Amit , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > particularly the 'repeating' obstacle or repeating theme! When one is > ready to 'fly', the kind Ma gives that last bit of push! But > the 'angel' must trust Her and himself and *walk* to the edge of the > precipice before that push comes and he realizes that he can fly! > > Someday, I will figure out the astrology of that tiny 'push' that > makes static energy turn into dynamic energy, or that makes the ice- > cube melt without the temperature changing one bit. > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear Amit ji, > > The essence of life has precisely been told by you in the following: > > > > every obstacle has a reason > > > > i always found every obstacle as it was a need or > > wish of mine. > > if we have to be self confident for any kind of venture(to > ascend),you need to invent(problem)/obstacles.The brainstorm that > follows has an answer, a solution and a clarity of approach to pursue > for future with more vigour.Admit not you tired.Admit not that you > are lost.There is always at the end of tunnel. > > Iam in perfect wave length with your views.may be in a fiery sign > of leo ruled by visionary,placement of ketu along with jupiter > receiving the energy of Bhoomi Putra(mars) makes issues more > practical and down to earth > > Rahu in kumbha? 11th H is leading the way to your cherishes > destination with the beningn grace of jupiter. > > certainly the lagna lords dasa has to make the position clear even > after some obstacles and revitalising the the goals. > > Sincerely > > krishnan > > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > Nice to hear from you... > > Its great that you was drived in right directions. > > If one understands shajata of Life then All the confusion of free > > will and Predeterminism vanishes........because in anyway you are > > growing. > > In my case also it was Rahu who gave me a misterious detatchment > from > > all things.Also Ketu in 10H gave me detachment from money/power > > making.Rather i had to struggle with myself to put my energies in > > that side. > > And by His grace i always found every obstacle as it was a need or > > wish of mine.this may seem a bit baseless thing to someone but > > failures/obstacles are our need in this Life.please keep in mind > that > > everyone's life is a Lesson plan (as previously discussed on list). > > Just like a boxer not performing well needs a motivation.After > trying > > all things he demands a failure thinking showing bad performance is > > worse that a failure.so that he may try next time.This is not > > acceptance of failure helplessly ..its a demand for motivation. > > same is life....every obstacle has a reason.... > > Someone in deep knows what is next need to ascend the mind towards > > spiritual life... > > as a blind person is gifted something else ........ > > In currently running Rahu/mars Dasha i felt a balance between my > > inner life and worldly life. > > Now my JUp Dasha is going to start.JUp is 9th & 12 th Lord and is > > placed in 5th(Leo) alone.But my JUP is not so strong. > > > > Sincerely... > > Amit > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Dera Shri Amitji, > > > Creation of this univers as well as all living being are endowed > > with the Shaj Marg.But then if we have to consider ouraelves either > > to improve our previous karmas or to erode them further,there will > be > > deviance in the thoughts and the balance either way distrubs the > way > > of sahaj marg.Certainly those sukarmas contribute to: > > > "people who have a well developed Sahaj Marg". > > > For ex in my own case I was passing through Rahu dasa.My rahu is > > placed with mars in 6th in Taurus. > > > It brought me a good image, a sports and athletic bent also a > fear > > of unknown.As I was entering into Jupiter dasa certainly some > shocks > > in life and took me to a place where I was to get involved in a > > development(including construction) of a temple and before that a > > great opportunity to be in the vicinity of agreat > Peethadhipati.From > > then on wards the progress of life and including frequent vists to > > the Lord Balaji at the Seven Hills made different impact.i do not > > know whether it brought a kind of awakening of the spirit of Sahaja > > marg.I can only say it have a great positive impact despite the > fact > > of facing turbulence in life events. > > > Now a days a day will not pass without a prayer and bowing down > > before the Supreem Lord and nearness of my residence to temples > leads > > me to pay my obeissance to these lords. > > > Life is really a different melody as I crave to listen to Vishnu > > Sahasranamam of late M.S every day morning 7.30 A.M before I leave > to > > my work place. > > > God is Kind > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > Surya ji, > > > It was my little understanding ,my confusions or the lack of > > > conviction by the person who introduced me to sahaj marg. > > > Actually my Spiritual life was very much irregular in terms of > > > practices. > > > My spiritual urges started with expressing themselves in poems > > > offered to God and Life. > > > I used to search answers to my questions .....obviously through > > > contemplating on them and surfing texts,books,articles. > > > At some time i got inspired of SWAMI VIVEKANAND.While > > Contemmplating > > > on any question whenever i used to reached at some state of mind > > > explaning the desired answer to me, very next to it i used to get > > the > > > answers in His words somewhere in newsPaper/book/magazine etc. > > > This was amazing. > > > After some time i got inclined to raja Yoga.I practiced it for > > > sometime.At some point of time i came in touch of a person who > > > introduced me to Sahaj marg of Sri ramaChandra Mission. > > > there was no special reason for not to continue with Sahaj > > > Marg......only i was much inclined towards raja yoga at that > time,I > > > was very irregular in Practices,my immature views may be the > > > reasons....but i do not know specifically. > > > I didn't make much progress in Raja Yoga also. > > > Later i myself found a Way of thinking of Sahaj Jeevan developed > in > > > me. > > > I used to discuss these thoughts with my friends and people > around > > > and never gave attention that there are people who have a well > > > developed Sahaj Marg. > > > Also i found always a push towards a particular way of learning > > > through living/folowing some practices. > > > Now i have been pushed to learn astrology. > > > I think the ways of practices are immaterial.....as i found > myself > > > indulged in different ways to spiritual life and got something > > > always. > > > Also i never chanted mantras enough but in some state i got > > > attracted to some mantra and for a little time i chanted that and > > > experienced its power and spiritual message. > > > At some time i bcame devotee of shiva and at soem time of Krishna. > > > please notice it was not a hopping of a fickle minded person..it > > was > > > due to deep inspirations. > > > this was in RAHU Mahadasha.........It gave me immense and many > type > > > of sufferings in worldly sense but many type of immense spiritual > > > experiences finally. > > > Thanks for sharing your experiences Krishnan ji.Will like to hear > > > from you. > > > > > > Learning.......... > > > Humbly...... > > > Amit Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , surya vishnubhotla > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > I was wondering what led you not to continue with > > > > sahaj marg? > > > > > > > > Thanks for your views Krishnanji! > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ji Amitji, > > > > > Namaskar.Even I was also for a short time in my > > > > > earlier years of life believer in sahaja > > > > > margs.Infact I attended couple of discourses and > > > > > read some material too. > > > > > Finally as of now I believe in making myself > > > > > available and help them,particularly those who have > > > > > some difficult problems in life.Miraculously things > > > > > started working in their favour.Definetely service > > > > > to and service to humanity have improved my > > > > > confidence and instilled more faith on paryers.Bit > > > > > of yoga in the early morning with prayer is the > > > > > easiest and practiceable approach to initiate the > > > > > path of spirtualism. > > > > > Iam sorry that I have intruded into your mails and > > > > > offered my views.maY I request that both of you > > > > > would bear with me? > > > > > with regards > > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Surya ji, > > > > > I have heard of sahaj marg. > > > > > In early days of my search for a spiritual direction > > > > > i came to know > > > > > about it. > > > > > But at that time i could not accept it > > > > > effective....Also i was in > > > > > very teen-age that time.What i said ....i said it > > > > > from my experience > > > > > i gained in my spiritual struggle.I saw a lot of Ups > > > > > and > > > > > downs ....faced a lot of confusions and tried to > > > > > resolve > > > > > them....hence could say all that. > > > > > I tried to follow Raja-Yoga .But all was very > > > > > irregular,zig-zag...in > > > > > my case. > > > > > I was not a believer of astrology... i used to > > > > > favour free will > > > > > concept very much. and i see working it dramatically > > > > > in my life. but > > > > > in last few years i was pushed to dig deep in > > > > > concept of > > > > > Predeterminism.And i saw it working dramatically > > > > > also. > > > > > Thats why i started learning astrology. > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > Amit kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , surya > > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure if you have ever heard of Sahaj > > > > > Marg, > > > > > > per what I know their entire philosophy is devoted > > > > > to > > > > > > cleaning these footprints (called impressions by > > > > > them) > > > > > > through shakti path from a guru ... > > > > > > > > > > > > I just shared with you because I saw the > > > > > connection > > > > > > between what you said and what they believed ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ji Surya ji,getting rid of these imprints is > > > > > > > necessary for spiritual > > > > > > > progress. > > > > > > > How can we do that is a question to be answered. > > > > > > > One Person said me "First distinguish among your > > > > > > > desires.As per > > > > > > > priority choose which you can fulfill easily and > > > > > > > leave which can't be" > > > > > > > Also i feel that one has to strive hard for > > > > > > > spiritual progress > > > > > > > called 'Adhyatmik Purusharth'. generally people > > > > > are > > > > > > > very lazy towards > > > > > > > spiritual progress. > > > > > > > Also after a lot of questioning to people and > > > > > > > serching answers in > > > > > > > works of saints i concluded that spiritual > > > > > progress > > > > > > > is not a victim > > > > > > > of Destiny. > > > > > > > Krishna himself said in Gita "It doesn't matter > > > > > How > > > > > > > sinful a person > > > > > > > was If he comes to my shelter, gets me." > > > > > > > Thnaks and regards > > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , surya > > > > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > > > Good views Amit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But dont you think getting rid of these > > > > > imprints > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > necessary for spiritual progress? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > > > > > > > > You are right reaching that pure state is > > > > > the > > > > > > > way to > > > > > > > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > > > Also you mntioned abt a practiceable and > > > > > lasting > > > > > > > > > approach. > > > > > > > > > We all see that sometimes we see ourself > > > > > purer > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > ever... > > > > > > > > > From where this purity comes wwe do not > > > > > > > know...and > > > > > > > > > aftera time it > > > > > > > > > vanishes. > > > > > > > > > but it leaves an imprint on our heart... > > > > > > > > > a new identity of ourselve > > > > > > > > > And our behaviour ,vision changes. > > > > > > > > > this we can say spiritual progress. > > > > > > > > > but generally its very slow . > > > > > > > > > somewhere in books of Yoga i have read that > > > > > "In > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > life every Human > > > > > > > > > gets a chance when he feels a little of > > > > > Brahma > > > > > > > > > through his mind" > > > > > > > > > naturally our other traits,habits,emotions > > > > > > > > > overshadows the urge for > > > > > > > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > > > same way an impulse of anger also creates an > > > > > > > imprint > > > > > > > > > on heart.... > > > > > > > > > and gets counted in our identity. > > > > > > > > > I think a practiceable approch to > > > > > Spirituality > > > > > > > is to > > > > > > > > > try to vanish > > > > > > > > > these all negative traits of human nature > > > > > and > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > all spiritual > > > > > > > > > qualities get cultivated. > > > > > > > > > Now every one will face a totally different > > > > > > > issue in > > > > > > > > > his life. > > > > > > > > > For example practicing truthfulness and > > > > > honesty > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > be very easy(i am > > > > > > > > > talking in context of external circumtances) > > > > > for > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > person having a > > > > > > > > > life where no such situation arises to test > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > truthfulness or > > > > > > > > > honesty....on the other hand some other > > > > > person > > > > > > > works > > > > > > > > > in a corrupt > > > > > > > > > office where he has to face it everyday in > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > matter...and he has > > > > > > > > > to struggle for keeping his honesty/truth. > > > > > > > > > so all is variable. > > > > > > > > > We all are in a kind of bondage due to our > > > > > very > > > > > > > own > > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > obstructions on the path of purity > > > > > > > /spirituality. > > > > > > > > > One has to nurture his spiritual nature in > > > > > mid > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > day to day battle > > > > > > > > > of KARMA . > > > > > > > > > Humbly > > > > > > > > > Amit Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \, > > > > > vattem > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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